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PHONY OUTRAGE STORY BREAKING HARD --- Hannity is on it; can mainstream media keep hiding?
dfu, Hannity show | 3-8-04 | dfu

Posted on 03/08/2004 12:50:22 PM PST by doug from upland

Ladies and gentlemen, it is breaking hard right before our eyes. Sean Hannity is talking now about the phony outrage story regarding the President Bush ads.

We are going to find that the RATS contacted family members who are anti-war, anti-Bush and who lost relatives on 9-11. We will find they were given the phone numbers of newsrooms. We will find they were given talking points.

Although some who called got out of hand, we got the NY TIMES to take notice of the story. They were deluged with phone calls. I understand Neal Boortz was on the story as well as other hosts.

We will not let this stand. John Effin Kerry is attempting to use 9-11 for his political benefit. John Effin Kerry, no effin way.

Please post on this thread links to previous threads. Keep it moving, FReepers.


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Note to Admin Moderator -- I don't abuse the Breaking News column. I think that Hannity being on this story qualifies it as breaking news, and it deserves to be included there.
1 posted on 03/08/2004 12:50:24 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
BUMP!!!!

2 posted on 03/08/2004 12:51:18 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (You...You sit down! You've had your say and now I'll have mine!!!!)
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To: doug from upland
Great but will it be breaking news on Dan Blather, CNN and the Canadian guy's news?
3 posted on 03/08/2004 12:52:43 PM PST by apackof2 (I won't be satisfied until I am too smart for my own good)
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To: apackof2
That Canadian guy still has a job?
4 posted on 03/08/2004 12:53:33 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: doug from upland
I heard on Tony Snow this morning that a new poll shows that Americans rank National Security the #1 issue. If this is true (and I heard this correctly), then this is backfiring hard on the Dems. The whole country is talking about 9-11. Democrats, are you sure this is what you want? Really?

This election is shaping up as 2002 all over again.
5 posted on 03/08/2004 12:55:13 PM PST by Tricorn
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To: doug from upland
Bump.:-)
6 posted on 03/08/2004 12:56:15 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: doug from upland
*bump* Roger Hedgecock hit it hard while filling in for Limbaugh, as well. The links are there.

A big part of the story though, is that the media didn't report the connection in the first place. Therefore, I predict they will not cover this. One thing the media does NOT do is mea culpa.

7 posted on 03/08/2004 12:57:10 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: doug from upland
It was reported earlier this morning before it became breaking news.
8 posted on 03/08/2004 12:57:25 PM PST by Dave S
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To: Tricorn
WOuldn't that be beautiful. We really need to extend our majority in the Senate. 60 is out of the question but the current margin is just too slim.

miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure war criminal

9 posted on 03/08/2004 12:57:33 PM PST by Fun Bob
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To: doug from upland
Well, here is a thread in which I decided to poke around and see what I could find out about the "outraged" relatives:

9/11 Victims' Kin Angered by Bush Ads (Big time media bias alert)

10 posted on 03/08/2004 12:57:35 PM PST by Paradox (Cogito ergo Dumb.)
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To: All
Good news. A WASHINGTON POST reporter with whom I just spoke wants to know about Kerry using the Vietnam Memorial as a backdrop for a 1984 campaign commercial. He says he is interested in that story. Please help me with the links for that. He is waiting for my email.
11 posted on 03/08/2004 12:58:12 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
"We are going to find that the RATS contacted family members who are anti-war, anti-Bush and who lost relatives on 9-11. We will find they were given the phone numbers of newsrooms. We will find they were given talking points."

That's all well and good, but how about the direct linkage to Teresa Kerry/John Kerry via Peaceful Tomorrows/The Tides Foundation??? The other is small beans compared to this aspect.
12 posted on 03/08/2004 12:58:39 PM PST by Hurricane Andrew
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To: doug from upland
We are going to find that the RATS contacted family members who are anti-war, anti-Bush and who lost relatives on 9-11.

NOOOOOOOOO!! Tell me it isn't so!! Why, why,... I am shocked and amazed. Actually I'm shocked, amazed and disappointed. No, no I'm shocked, amazed, dismayed and deeply saddened.

13 posted on 03/08/2004 12:59:09 PM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: doug from upland
Bump. I knew that there was something fishy in Rat land.
14 posted on 03/08/2004 1:01:15 PM PST by Lucky2 (Before I die, I want Bill and Hillary tried for treason and jailed (executed) for their crimess.)
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To: Dave S
I called it breaking because of Hannity. His show doing it will get the notice it needs.
15 posted on 03/08/2004 1:01:16 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
I am glad Hannity, and people like you, are on this. The whole story is just nauseating. Who is trampling on the bodies of the dead for political gain? The answer is obvious.

I was near, but not in, NYC the day of the attacks. I saw the huge cloud of smoke that was the WTC. I saw the damaged Pentagon that month too. I have the utmost sympathy for the families. But it is absolutely ghoulish for these leftists to use one's own dead relatives to shill for a politician.

Rush and Sean have done a great job of comparing the comments of the various 9/11 widows, etc. The similarity of their phrases (and the same illogic of them) shows that this is almost certainly a Democratic or leftist plant. And can ANYONE explain to me why Bush's being "in a classroom reading to children" when the attack occurred is such a damnable act? Are these the same people who said "Bush knew" and "Bush should have connected the dots?" And when he did - in Iraq - and took care of a tyrant who was destabilizing the region (a pretty big dot, if you ask me), didn't these same people object and protest Bush's "warmongering?" What would the left have done if he had attacked Afghanistan on 9/10/01 and found . . . boxcutters and airplane schedules? They would have freaked out!

My problem is that I look for logic where there is none, other than hatred of Bush, in their positions.

But this episode was particularly disgusting and pathetic.
16 posted on 03/08/2004 1:01:23 PM PST by cvq3842
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To: doug from upland; jmstein7
Bump
17 posted on 03/08/2004 1:01:40 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: doug from upland
BUMP!
18 posted on 03/08/2004 1:02:53 PM PST by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: doug from upland
Doug... I'm speechless!!!

FANTASTIC work!
19 posted on 03/08/2004 1:03:33 PM PST by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: doug from upland
Having lost the primary in humiliation - his brother had been caught trying to wiretap an opponent's office - Kerry went to Boston College Law School. Later, he was appointed assistant district attorney, then was elected lieutenant governor under Mike Dukakis in 1982. Two years later, he ran for the U.S. Senate - dusting off his veteran's credentials by standing in front of the black Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington to shoot a TV campaign ad, defying regulations that the memorial not be used for political purposes. The ad "was filmed illegally against the wishes of the National Park Service," according to the Boston Globe. Kerry authorized its broadcast anyway.

Link.

20 posted on 03/08/2004 1:04:27 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: jmstein7
bump
21 posted on 03/08/2004 1:04:52 PM PST by birbear (I'll take Things Nobody Knows for $300, please, Alex.)
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To: doug from upland
Glenn Beck covered it this morning too. He read and linked the Newsmax story. He has 5 million listeners. Also, Dom G here in Philly thanked me in an email for more 'great' info. I hope he will cover it more this afternoon after Hannity's show.
22 posted on 03/08/2004 1:06:04 PM PST by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: doug from upland
John Effin Kerry, no effin way

Can I steal this line for a tagline? Oops. I already did.

23 posted on 03/08/2004 1:07:19 PM PST by ilgipper (John Effin Kerry, No effin way)
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To: doug from upland
Teresa Heinz Kerry: Bag Lady for the Radical Left

The 'Offended' 911 Group “Peaceful Tomorrows” is funded largely by Teresa Heinz

September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows and Military Families Speak Out Linked to Heinz Foundation

24 posted on 03/08/2004 1:08:25 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: doug from upland
From Kerry's own site....


25 posted on 03/08/2004 1:09:12 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: doug from upland; diotima; Bob J; Interesting Times
Suggest you freepmail these great FReepers and look at Winter Soldier.com as well.
26 posted on 03/08/2004 1:09:44 PM PST by Libertina
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To: ravingnutter
bump
27 posted on 03/08/2004 1:10:12 PM PST by mondonico (Peace through Superior Firepower)
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To: cvq3842
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT 12:08 PM EST

RUSH: You know, this ad ran yesterday. The Bush ad started running this week about 9/11, one that has the pictures of Ground Zero. And the Democrats just raised holy hell! The Democrats, they just went nuts. They thought this was horrible. "It's politicizing this issue and this event is just horrible. It's trashy. It's a Bush attack ad," and it's not! It's uplifting. It's anything but an attack ad. So last night I'm scanning around Hardball, and Deborah Norville -- and all the channels: CNBC, MSNBC, I mean you name it. All these different shows, and there are different women, different family members, and I'm sitting there listen to them, and they're all saying the same thing.

And I'm saying to myself, "This can't be. The Democrats have not given these poor widows talking points. This just can't be." I said, "They're going to make me level this accusation? They're going to?" I mean, I'm an observer of life. I watch the news; I see this. If you saw it, too, I'm sure you had to come to the same conclusion. And I'm sitting, saying to myself, "Can it possibly be that the Democrats are out there accusing George Bush of running an attack ad and capitalizing politically on the attack of 9/11, have actually gotten hold of some widows, some family members, and gave them talking points?"

Because when you listen to what they say, they're all saying the same thing about where Bush was when this happened, and I keep saying, "There's nothing these people do that will surprise me anymore, nothing the Democrats, nothing the liberals will do. They can't go any lower than they are. They can't have any more hatred than they have. They can't be more bitter than they are," and they continue to surprise me. They can become angrier. They do become more embittered. They do get slimier! I just want you to listen here. This is 9/11 family members on all these shows talking about the Bush ad, and they're using the exact same language. NBC, CNBC, CNN and MSNBC. Listen.

VOICE ONE: I think for someone like President Bush who has not cooperated with this commission, who has stonewalled this commission.

VOICE TWO: This president and his administration blocked the creation of the commission, have stonewalled the commission.

VOICE ONE: If this was realistic from the morning of September 11th, it would show President Bush before a group of children listening to them read while, uh, the Twin Towers were burning.

VOICE TWO: If he wants to show a picture of 9/11 depicting what he was doing, it should be a picture of him sitting and reading in a classroom to school children. That's where he was on 9/11.

VOICE ONE: And we need to find out why 3,000 people were murdered on his watch.

VOICE TWO: You know, this happened on his watch.

RUSH: Now, ladies and gentlemen, this is unbelievable. No, it's not. It's believable. I just those people do not sound like victims; they sound like they've been coached. They sound like they have been faxed talking points, do they not? In fact, these people sound like journalists.

These people sound like reporters who would be offering their opinions of what Bush did -- and they're not. These are 9/11 family members, and as I say, they sound like political operatives. They really do. And, you know, we know in the past that the Democrats during periods of legislation have dragged in people off the street, supposedly going to be victimized by new Social Security cuts or what have you, and I'm just...

In the midst of all of these accusations of how low Bush can go, and how dirty Bush is and what an attack ad this was, to go get these family members and coach them -- and it's obvious. It's obvious they have been faxed something, or given something. Listen to this again. Now, the names are not relevant, but they're... Let me count the number of people here. One, two, three. There are two members here. There are two women here both saying the same things, but again, this is taken from three different -- well, four different networks -- CNN, NBC, CNBC, and MSNBC. Here it is one more time:

(Replaying of montage)

Where did we hear that? We've heard that one this week. The school children, too, last night, but "murdered on his watch." I had an audio of that yesterday or said something. Somebody said this yesterday. It wasn't one of these family members. They were not out there. It was a Democrat. I'm going to have to search. I could go to the website and look for it. Somebody do that, because I know it was there. The transcript of the program from yesterday because this was said, "murdered on his watch." Remember yesterday we reacted to that. It was some Democrat that said this. Somebody said "murdered on his watch." Do you not remember?

It was one of the family? Oh, I might have been quoting one of the family members? Yeah, we didn't have any tape yesterday. All right. Look, folks, I don't deny that there are family members that are Democrats and I don't deny that there are family members that might not like Bush. That's not what I'm saying. I don't think all 9/11 family members would be on the same page of anything -- 3,000 families. But I know these people like every inch of my naked body, folks. I know them, and I just can smell it. These people go into action and get into gear. I was watching this last night saying, "This can't be happening. No, not on this. Not the same guys that are out there accusing Bush of dirty politics."

28 posted on 03/08/2004 1:10:47 PM PST by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: doug from upland
Fox News was complicit in the media's not telling the real story.

I was livid at FNC. I made three very angry calls Saturday to Fox (one call to news tips, one call to story corrections and one call to viewer comments). I'm sure I was not alone. I saw some of Fox & Friends this morning. They interviewed a pro-Bush family member and were reporting on the pro-Bush letter written by family members. Something tells me that FNC heard alot of complaints this weekend.
29 posted on 03/08/2004 1:11:13 PM PST by Republican Red (Karmic hugs welcomed!)
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To: doug from upland
Thank you!!! We are losing this battle with the American people. CNN just reported that in a new CNN/Gallup poll, Kerry beats Bush 52 to 44%, and that the majority of the American people think that Bush's use of 9/11 images in campaign ads is inappropriate.
30 posted on 03/08/2004 1:11:29 PM PST by coloradomom
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To: doug from upland
Link to FR poster Backhoe's list of related articles:


The Prince of Tides- Bush ads, Kerry ads, the Tides Foundation, and so much more...
31 posted on 03/08/2004 1:11:37 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Interesting Times
Man, you're fast. Thanks!
32 posted on 03/08/2004 1:12:02 PM PST by Quilla
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To: doug from upland
Lift up a rock and look what comes out!!!!!
33 posted on 03/08/2004 1:12:25 PM PST by Bombard
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To: doug from upland
bttt
34 posted on 03/08/2004 1:12:42 PM PST by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: finnman69
Is that a photo from this campaign?
35 posted on 03/08/2004 1:12:42 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: antivenom
It says it all, doesn't it? Good post!

Again, I hope I will never have to put myself in the shoes of these survivors. But what they are doing is insulting the memories of their loved ones more than anything anyone else could ever do. And it's only March. What kind of swill will we be seeing by September?
36 posted on 03/08/2004 1:15:20 PM PST by cvq3842
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To: Quilla
Man, you're fast. Thanks!

No problem. Personally, I like these two quotes back to back:

We will not quickly join those who march on Veterans' Day waving small flags, calling to memory those thousands who died for the "greater glory of the United States." We will not accept the rhetoric. We will not readily join the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars -- in fact, we will find it hard to join anything at all and when we do, we will demand relevancy such as other organizations have recently been unable to provide. We will not take solace from the creation of monuments or the naming of parks after a select few of the thousands of dead Americans and Vietnamese. We will not uphold traditions which decorously memorialize that which was base and grim.

-- John Kerry, in "The New Soldier"

Two years later, [1984] he ran for the U.S. Senate - dusting off his veteran's credentials by standing in front of the black Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington to shoot a TV campaign ad, defying regulations that the memorial not be used for political purposes. The ad "was filmed illegally against the wishes of the National Park Service," according to the Boston Globe. Kerry authorized its broadcast anyway.

-- J. Michael Waller, Insight Magazine, March 5, 2004

For more tasteful quotes, click right here.

37 posted on 03/08/2004 1:16:09 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: doug from upland
That looks like it might be a memorial service.
38 posted on 03/08/2004 1:17:14 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: doug from upland; dead
This is great!

The news was broken right here on FR by the excellent research by dead, but I am very glad, that then the conservative media ran with the story and did further research, unearthing that Kerry actually started this by contacting the anti-Bush people, and even gave them talking points.

How phony and disgusting can you get?! Kerry is the one, who is using and abusing the tragedy of 9-11, the Attack on America.

We all mourn the victims, but it was an attack on all of us.
39 posted on 03/08/2004 1:18:52 PM PST by FairOpinion ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country." --- G. W. Bush)
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To: antivenom
VOICE ONE: And we need to find out why 3,000 people were murdered on his watch.
From www.axisoflogic.com:
Instead, the "story" of the week in which Bush was supposed to be reintroducing himself to the voters focused on the anger of people like Kristen Breitweiser over the Bush ads. "After 3,000 people were murdered on his watch, it seems that that takes an awful lot of audacity," declared Breitweiser. "Honestly, it's in poor taste."

40 posted on 03/08/2004 1:19:06 PM PST by RonDog
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To: coloradomom
Have you noticed how the polls are suspiciously all over the map on anything concerning President Bush?
41 posted on 03/08/2004 1:19:22 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: coloradomom
What CNN/Gallup doesn't tell you is the poll was conducted in Boston, in the middle of a weekday, speaking with 772 private housekeepers and nannies.
42 posted on 03/08/2004 1:19:26 PM PST by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: cake_crumb
That looks like it might be a memorial service.

The photo is from Kerry's Senate web site. The podium in that picture has something on the front, that I can't quite make out. I'm sure it's not an official seal, and it looks more like political campaign material.

43 posted on 03/08/2004 1:20:52 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
"A big part of the story though, is that the media didn't report the connection in the first place."

I think, in their haste to get these folks on the air, they failed to properly research the story. I don't think they knew of this connection. And, once again, they are left looking like partisan hacks.

As much as it pains me to say this, that includes FNC. However, I do expect Brit Hume to have something to say about this on "Special Report", probably in the Grapevine segment. He won't be able to help himself. ;o)

44 posted on 03/08/2004 1:21:18 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: RonDog
From www.nypost.com:
"Families are enraged," said Bill Doyle, 57, whose son, Joseph, died in the attacks. "What I think is distasteful is that the president is trying to use 9/11 as a springboard for his re-election. It's entirely wrong. He's had 3,500 deaths on his watch, including Iraq."

45 posted on 03/08/2004 1:21:45 PM PST by RonDog
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To: antivenom
Rush had his suspicions and he should get credit for starting the ball rolling. I give kudos to Sean because he will get this on TV. Maybe the mainstream can be shamed into writing it.
46 posted on 03/08/2004 1:21:56 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
bttt
47 posted on 03/08/2004 1:24:02 PM PST by Born Conservative (conservative click Guerilla extraordinare)
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To: doug from upland
I am so disheartened. They always have us playing catch up and no matter what we do, how much we expose their dirty tactics, they win support. I am very afraid.
48 posted on 03/08/2004 1:24:37 PM PST by cajungirl (John Kerry has no botox and I have a bridge to sell you!)
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To: whereasandsoforth; cake_crumb
I take your point. My sister and BIL live in near Boston. Her 3rd grade daughter told her that all of her friends hate President Bush because "he started the war." My sis and BIL are rare Republicans in their (very affluent) neck of the woods.
49 posted on 03/08/2004 1:24:46 PM PST by coloradomom
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To: doug from upland
bump for later read
50 posted on 03/08/2004 1:25:42 PM PST by RightField (The older you get . . . the older "old" is !)
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