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Lawmaker sues to add paper trail to new voting machines
Sarasota Herald Tribune ^ | March 09. 2004 | AP

Posted on 03/09/2004 6:43:22 AM PST by NautiNurse

WEST PALM BEACH -- Florida's voting machines came under attack again Monday when a lawmaker sued state election supervisors because new ballot counters lack a paper trail needed for possible recounts.

Democratic U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler said voters need to be assured every vote is counted, particularly in close races where a manual recount is required by law.

"Why doesn't Gov. Bush simply say, "Let's improve our Florida election system even more than we've done so, provide for certainty and provide for security and in case something goes wrong, have a back up?'" Wexler said moments after filing the lawsuit in federal court.


"Then all Floridians, Republicans and Democrats and independents alike can have confidence in our system."

The Department of State notified elections supervisors last month that manual recounts don't have to include ballots from Florida's new touchscreen voting machines because there is no question about how voters intended to vote.

The computerized voting machines replaced the state's infamous punch card ballots, which produced the dimpled, hanging and pregnant chads at the heart of the 2000 presidential election controversy. The confusion over vote counting led to 36 days of recounts which ultimately awarded George W. Bush the presidency.

Hours before Florida voters head to the polls for the 2004 presidential primary, Wexler said the machines, which were expected to rid Florida of ballot controversies, have created new problems and violate the U.S. constitution because only some Florida counties can accurately conduct recounts.

Indian River County Supervisor of Elections Kay Clem, president of the Florida State Association of Elections Supervisors, said the paper receipts are unnecessary because the machines already can print out an audit at the end of an election day.

Klem said those who argue that the votes inside the machines can be ignored or changed through some malfunction or deliberate action are not considering the security measures already in place.

"Our machines don't have modems. They're not networked," Klem said. "Somebody would have to go into each polling place and go from machine to machine and tamper with them while the polling workers are there."

Since Florida replaced its old voting system with the new touchscreen voting machines, ballot printers have been embraced most enthusiastically by Democrats and groups still angry about 2000.

Officials hoped to avoid the problems of the last presidential election, when some voters claimed they weren't allowed to cast ballots because they were mistaken for convicted felons, were omitted from voter rolls, didn't provide identification even though it wasn't necessary or didn't understand English.

Other voters, notably in Wexler's home county of Palm Beach, said a confusing ballot design, dubbed the butterfly ballot, led them to vote for the wrong candidate.

Although the new voting machines solved many concerns, new questions arose about whether they could be trusted to tally votes without a paper record of results. Critics say the machines are susceptible to errors and fraud and that a paper trail is needed in case a re-count is required.

"We need everything and anything that will make people feel comfortable that their votes will be counted," said Palm Beach Commissioner Addie Greene.

"I don't think the public has much confidence in the system the way it is now."


Palm Beach elections supervisor Theresa LePore said the punch card machines also did not allow for a paper receipt where voters could double- check their ballots. Although she believes the printers are unnecessary, she said that if the voters and state Legislature approve them, "so be it."

LePore, Klem, and Secretary of State Glenda Hood are named in the suit.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: ballot; electronicvoting; hangingchad; papertrail; votingmachine
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More circling of the wagons.

Vote early and often... ;o)

1 posted on 03/09/2004 6:43:23 AM PST by NautiNurse
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To: NautiNurse
I hate to say it, but the whiner is right.

A voting system with no paper trail is a prescription for disaster. There is no need to have elections if no one can know who people really voted for.

So9

2 posted on 03/09/2004 6:47:32 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: NautiNurse
Personally, i like the idea of a paper trail for my own confidence.

Ideally i would like to see a system where i could get a recipt for my vote that holds a code number so i can check later to see if my vote was counted and counted correctly.
3 posted on 03/09/2004 6:47:38 AM PST by cripplecreek (you win wars by making the other dumb SOB die for his country)
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To: NautiNurse
Democratic U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler

Did you hear this howling beast (sounded like Dean) at the Kerry rally?  What a detriment to society.

4 posted on 03/09/2004 6:51:20 AM PST by quantim (Victory must be absolute, it cannot be relative.)
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To: NautiNurse
Palm Beach elections supervisor Theresa LePore said the punch card machines also did not allow for a paper receipt where voters could double- check their ballots.

This is about as lame as it is possible to get. A true Democrat. The punch card ballots are paper that you can double check!

5 posted on 03/09/2004 6:52:28 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt
i believe Theresa LePore left the democratic party after the 2000 election citing harrassment.
6 posted on 03/09/2004 6:54:30 AM PST by cripplecreek (you win wars by making the other dumb SOB die for his country)
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To: Servant of the 9
Yep. An auditable (is that a word?) paper trail is a must.
7 posted on 03/09/2004 6:56:39 AM PST by Let's Roll (Kerry) is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: cripplecreek
She may have left it, but her reasoning shows that it hasn't left her.
8 posted on 03/09/2004 7:03:10 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Servant of the 9; cripplecreek
I hate to say it, but the whiner is right.

Agreed--a paper trail is crucial. I just don't understand why the whiner didn't make this case in 2002.

9 posted on 03/09/2004 7:05:14 AM PST by NautiNurse (Missing Iraqi botulinum toxin? Look at John Kerry's face)
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To: quantim
Did you hear this howling beast (sounded like Dean) at the Kerry rally?

Fortunately, I missed it. Must have been taking out the trash or something. I'll take your word for it though....

10 posted on 03/09/2004 7:06:46 AM PST by NautiNurse (Missing Iraqi botulinum toxin? Look at John Kerry's face)
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To: quantim
Did you hear this howling beast (sounded like Dean) at the Kerry rally? What a detriment to society.

Yeah, but in the "even a broken clock is right once in a while" mode, he is right about paper trails. I'll go one step further and say that the paper trail generated for a specific voter should be visible to that voter before he/she leaves the polling place.

11 posted on 03/09/2004 7:06:55 AM PST by kevkrom (Ask your Congresscritter about his or her stance on HR 25 -- the NRST)
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To: NautiNurse
I never thought I'd say this, but I agree with Weasel Wexler. Having no independent paper trail with touch screen voting is an open invitation to wake up some day and discover our new President is Linus Torvald or Bugs Bunny, "elected" by some hacker.
12 posted on 03/09/2004 7:08:07 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant (Stoic about asteroids)
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To: NautiNurse
Obviously he didn't get the DNC memo about who would REALLY be doing the cheating. Nevertheless, I agree with him on this one.
13 posted on 03/09/2004 7:12:43 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: NautiNurse
It is an embarrassment that Florida has to be sued in order to provide vote security. They should be up front leading the pack demanding a verifiable paper trail. No wonder Pax Christi is sending international monitors in to the "developing nation" of Florida to monitor its elections.
14 posted on 03/09/2004 7:15:58 AM PST by ItsMyVoteDammit
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To: quantim
Democratic U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler

and Wexler just made national news...WHY did he wait until election day to do this?


15 posted on 03/09/2004 7:17:22 AM PST by NautiNurse (Missing Iraqi botulinum toxin? Look at John Kerry's face)
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To: ItsMyVoteDammit
Why do you think Florida is the only state in the Union with this issue?
16 posted on 03/09/2004 7:18:30 AM PST by NautiNurse (Missing Iraqi botulinum toxin? Look at John Kerry's face)
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To: kevkrom
he is right about paper trails

No argument from me.  With an 'honest' voting regimented system used in places like Florida, Cook County, etc. will only reduce corruption in favor of the good guys.  

17 posted on 03/09/2004 7:21:41 AM PST by quantim (Victory must be absolute, it cannot be relative.)
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To: NautiNurse
I'd think the dems are keying on Florida because it's enough to swing the electorial their way. I think most republicans would take this paperless voting issue a lot more seriously if someone like Soros owned the machines and software.
18 posted on 03/09/2004 7:22:31 AM PST by steve50 (“Let me . . . warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party.)
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To: NautiNurse
Let me control the proprietary secret software that tabulates the votes, and I control the election outcome.
19 posted on 03/09/2004 7:24:55 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: NautiNurse
Its not just Florida. All of the states have this issue. California has already been sued and they lost and now are being forced to provide verifiable paper audit trail for votes. But Florida is fighting harder against voter rights. Perhaps the voting machine companies have spread more money around in the state of Florida.
20 posted on 03/09/2004 7:25:00 AM PST by ItsMyVoteDammit
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