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Bush, Kerry belong to Yale’s elite secret society
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Posted on 03/09/2004 12:23:51 PM PST by chance33_98

Bush, Kerry belong to Yale’s elite secret society


Bush Yale Photo, 1968

Kerry Yale Photo, 1966

jtang@media.ucla.edu

When voters go the polls in November to elect a president, the two major candidates they can choose from will have a windowless tomb, secret initiation rites and a private island on the St. Lawrence River as part of their personal histories.

Both incumbent President Bush and likely Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., are Yale graduates, 1968 and 1966 respectively, and are also members of Yale's secret society Skull and Bones.

Each year, the exclusive society "taps" 15 distinguished third-year Yale undergraduates to participate in an initiation ceremony that "has bonded diplomats, media moguls, bankers and spies into a lifelong, multi-generational fellowship far more influential than any fraternity," wrote Ron Rosenbaum, class of 1968, in a New York Observer article.

"What's so staggering about the fact that the two presidential candidates come from this particular society is that this is a tiny club – there are only 800 living members (in the whole country,)" said Alexandra Robbins, who authored an exposé on the society, "Secrets of the Tomb."

Skull and Bones typically selects its new members, or Bonesmen, by drawing from distinguished student leaders of campus organizations. Kerry was tapped because he was president of the political union.

But Bush was likely tapped because of his family's legacy with Skull and Bones as both Bush's father and grandfather were members, Robbins said.

Robbins, a Yale graduate of 1998, whose next book is an undercover look into sorority life, said she became interested in writing a book on Skull and Bones when Bush ran for president in 2000.

She has interviewed over 100 Bonesmen for her book, even though Bonesmen are traditionally sworn to secrecy (even the rosters are secret).

This presidential election will be the first Bonesman versus Bonesman contest, though the society's interests will not necessarily be split, Robbins said.

"I've talked to several Bonesman and they view it as a win-win situation. There'll be hundreds of thousands of dollars in contributions. Of course, some of them have their political leanings … though, as a group, they're going to be happy no matter what – because automatically, they'll have a connection in the White House for the next four years," she said.

Though there is some speculation that Kerry and Bush may have participated in Skull and Bones initiation rites together since they attended school at roughly the same time, this is highly unlikely because only 15 Yale seniors are Bonesman at any given year because the previous 15 would have already graduated.

Donald Etra, Yale class of 1968 and a Los Angeles-area lawyer who was in Skull and Bones with Bush, said Kerry and Bush didn't know each other at Yale.

Etra is currently representing Andrew Dyck, a UCLA classics professor on trial for charges of sending harmful materials to a minor, and represented Rabbi Chaim Seidler-Feller, the director of UCLA Hillel, in a separate case.

Bush's campaign declined to comment on his involvement with the society. A spokesman for the Kerry campaign was not available for comment.

Etra, who said he has known Bush for 40 years and remains good friends with the president, said it doesn't hurt to have connections through Skull and Bones.

"You never know who's going to be the next president of the United States," he said.

Though Skull and Bones is not the wealthiest senior society at Yale, it is by far the most influential and powerful, Robbins said.

"The whole purpose is to get members into positions of power and then get them to hire more Bonesmen. Bush has done a good job of that; Bush has nearly 10 in his assemblage of advisers," she said.

The power Skull and Bones' members seem to wield over so many domains, including government and corporations, has spawned much speculation and many conspiracy theories. For instance, Skull and Bones has been tied to theories linking it to the Central Intelligence Agency, the Bay of Pigs invasion and U.S. involvement in Vietnam. Even its secret initiation ceremonies and other activities run amid wild rumors.

"A lot of the conspiracy theories are blown out of proportion, though they are sometimes based on some truths," Robbins said. "When the new seniors come back, the first thing they do is recount their sexual history, from their first masturbation to present, for an entire evening."

Other facets of the secrecy surrounding the society include the private island and a "Tomb" where Skull members convene for meetings and activities. Its "Tap Day" results were once published on the front page of the New York Times, according to Yale archives, but rosters are now secret.

Robbins was the first non-member to infiltrate the society, partially because she was a member of Scroll and Key, another secret society. The Bonesmen thought she was on their side, she said, but some were openly aggressive.

"I've realized that members of the society take some things so seriously," she said, referring to threats made to her by a Bonesman who said he would destroy her career.

Skull and Bones' secretive nature was the inspiration for the 2000 movie "The Skulls."

"The movie was loosely based, but it did encapsulate all the notions that society thought about them – they believed everything in that movie," Robbins said.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: bush; kerry; skullandbones; yale

1 posted on 03/09/2004 12:23:53 PM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98; P-Marlowe; OrthodoxPresbyterian
Does anyone know if there is any rule within the "skull and bones" that will enable us to predict which candidate will be president?

Are there rules of seniority, family status, office within the society, etc. that would call for one or the other candidate to saboutage their own campaign?
2 posted on 03/09/2004 12:32:46 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of it!!)
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To: xzins
If I told you, I would have to shoot you.
3 posted on 03/09/2004 12:35:02 PM PST by So Cal Rocket (If consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, John F. Kerry’s mind must be freaking enormous)
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To: So Cal Rocket
So the answer is YES!

The campaign is subverted before it begins. (this could be a fun game for a 3rd party to play.)
4 posted on 03/09/2004 12:41:54 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of it!!)
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To: chance33_98
Have we hit upon the biggest "So What!?" of the campaign?
5 posted on 03/09/2004 12:49:27 PM PST by NCPAC
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To: chance33_98
It gets even more interesting folks. I have an anonamous source that has told me there is a secret picture at the Skull and Bones frat house showing both Kerry and Bush standing on the grassy knoll in Dallas when JFK was shot!
6 posted on 03/09/2004 12:49:32 PM PST by Aggie1 (Life is hard, it's even harder if you're stupid.)
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To: chance33_98
Just proves that even elite organizations can make a mistake and allow trash to be inducted......(KERRY, guttersnipe)
7 posted on 03/09/2004 12:51:27 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: xzins
And Teresa Heinz Kerry has married two Bonesmen.

What are the chances of that?

Hmmm....

8 posted on 03/09/2004 12:52:29 PM PST by Shermy
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To: chance33_98
This has got to be the most un-secret, secret organization in America today.
9 posted on 03/09/2004 12:55:38 PM PST by CWOJackson (What are you complaining about, she called me compassionate...)
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To: chance33_98
Kerry was tapped because he was president of the political union.

But Bush was likely tapped because of his family's legacy with Skull and Bones as both Bush's father and grandfather were members, Robbins said.

They gotta get in a dig on George W, don't they.

10 posted on 03/09/2004 12:59:40 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: CWOJackson
Ack! They are hiding in broad daylight!
11 posted on 03/09/2004 1:00:29 PM PST by new cruelty
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To: Shermy
Hmmmmmmm.....

Maybe she has her sights on GW.....(someone warn Laura)....the ketchup queen collects bonesmen
12 posted on 03/09/2004 1:06:04 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of it!!)
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To: chance33_98
Yes, the loyalties of all of our installed leaders are first to...the Skull and Bones brat group? Well...okay, I gues I'll finally blow the whistle here.

The Skull and Bones is only a recruiting center set up to gather potential world leaders when they are young. The Bilderbergers, the Rockefellers, the Masons, the Trilateral Commission and the Council of Nine have a world conference each year to govern the effort. Did I leave anyone or any organization out?

Oh, but there's one more thing. All of the leaders of those organizations meet in an ultra-secret location called "Area 51" to do their most important planning with the even more top-secret leaders who oversee them. The rulers of our world (the Overseers) land at that location to touch antennae with...er, that is, meet our earthling leaders. I think MKUltra (electronic mind control, IIRC) is on their agenda again this year.

http://www.raven1.net/
(Canadian site that publishes government secrets)

...any questions? ...gotta run now. Something huge and gnarly is about to burst out of my stomach and fly across the room, screeching and eating everything in its path.

13 posted on 03/09/2004 1:15:45 PM PST by familyop (Essayons)
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To: All

14 posted on 03/09/2004 1:20:20 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead
Wacky Packs are back!

15 posted on 03/09/2004 1:22:57 PM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: Shermy
I'm sorry, but I **CAN'T** help myself on this one. . .


She likes getting BONED ?????? (diving for cover, grinning and running like hell)
16 posted on 03/09/2004 1:25:45 PM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: xzins
Does anyone know if there is any rule within the "skull and bones" that will enable us to predict which candidate will be president?

Watch the debate going on right now between the two. It's almost like two fraternity brothers campaigning for president of their fraternity. Sincere yet dignified. Doesn't mean to rule out coarse language, but no vulgarities please.

17 posted on 03/09/2004 1:29:51 PM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: Shermy
What are the chances of that?

Actually, probably better than you'd really like to know. The east coast liberal intelligencia is a very tight clique. Here's a tidbit of an example just how tight and closed: President Bush's grandmother was a bridesmaid at Howard Dean's grandmother's wedding. Chances indeed!

J

18 posted on 03/09/2004 1:32:33 PM PST by J. L. Chamberlain
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To: Cacique
Bonesmen alert!

Anyone here ever see Brotherhood of the Bell?

19 posted on 03/09/2004 1:43:16 PM PST by Clemenza (End Nation Building NOW!)
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To: chance33_98
Looks like Kerry got busted in the right eye.
20 posted on 03/09/2004 2:03:52 PM PST by bikerman
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To: chance33_98; xzins; So Cal Rocket; NCPAC; Aggie1; OldFriend; Shermy; CWOJackson; MediaMole; ...
There is no conspiracy here. Institutions like the S&Bs only select people with certain pedigrees and will to power, and consequently those people tend to amount to much in society. If 'A' stems from an influential family, which has prodigious wealth or easy access to power, then such a person is perfect Bonesman material (at least he is noticed). Now, let's say 'A' is not only of a certain caliber but also excels on campus, that is another plus. And let's say 'A' is a Legacy, meaning his parents were in Yale, then the deal is sealed.

And now, 'A' goes into the setup with the familial influence plus the will to power (sorry to sound like a cross between Nitzchie and Machiavelli, but it has to be said). And the person has consistently shown to have leadership potential (and at Yale someone has to be really good to lead .....since many there are Alphas themselves). Without the Bones the person would most probably be successful.

Now add the fact that most graduated Bonesmen are successful, and they tend to have highly nepotism tendencies towards other Bonesmen, hence 'A' will be hired/selected/posted to a nice position, one that allows smoother access to greater heights. The dude could amount to much on his own, however with his Brothers being in positions of power then the curve is much better for him.

No conspiracy. Just simple cause and effect.

And by the way the Skulls and Bones is not as secret as people think. The common knowledge is common, the rest is not. What people think is secret is not, what they do not know is the secret. Kind of similar to what people say about the Masons. All sorts of info abounds, but it is mostly lies, half-lies, or the rantings of lower-level masons who assume that knowing a secret handshake is esoteric knowledge.

21 posted on 03/09/2004 3:24:04 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear missiles: The ultimate Phallic symbol.)
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To: chance33_98
"Each year, the exclusive society "taps" 15 distinguished third-year Yale undergraduates to participate in an initiation ceremony ..."

Unfortunately, the gun for Kerry had blanks too.
22 posted on 03/09/2004 5:30:27 PM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar

THAT IS NOT A HARLEY !

23 posted on 03/09/2004 5:31:45 PM PST by ChadGore ("Maybe they thought Saddam would lose the next Iraqi election")
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