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'Murphy Brown' Actor Robert Pastorelli Dies at 49
Foxnews ^ | 3-9-04

Posted on 03/09/2004 6:57:46 PM PST by Indy Pendance

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:39:12 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Hollywood Robert Pastorelli (search), who played the oddball housepainter and confidante to "Murphy Brown," (search) was found dead in his Hollywood Hills home in what could be a drug-related death, the coroner's office said Tuesday. He was 49.

Coroner's office Lt. Ed Winter said Pastorelli's body was found by his assistant shortly before 3 p.m. Monday in a bathroom of the Hollyridge Drive home. An autopsy was planned to determine the cause of death.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drugskill

1 posted on 03/09/2004 6:57:47 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
Drugs...yeahh...let's legalise them. NOT!!!
2 posted on 03/09/2004 7:00:22 PM PST by dinok
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To: Indy Pendance
That makes three celebrity deaths close together.
3 posted on 03/09/2004 7:01:22 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: Paul Atreides
Yeh, Thats right....
4 posted on 03/09/2004 7:03:00 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: Paul Atreides
Who are the other two?
5 posted on 03/09/2004 7:04:49 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!")
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To: Indy Pendance
ERASER
6 posted on 03/09/2004 7:05:23 PM PST by evad (Cut taxes again. Cut spending. Cut Guv Regulations. Cut Guv Programs...Repeat)
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To: NYC GOP Chick; All
This is such a shame.
7 posted on 03/09/2004 7:06:07 PM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Spalding Gray and Paul Winfield
8 posted on 03/09/2004 7:06:26 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Paul Winfield's one.
9 posted on 03/09/2004 7:07:40 PM PST by mass55th
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To: jocon307
Isn't it? About 9 or 10 years ago, a couple of friends from college came down here for a visit and one afternoon we were in the MAC store on Christopher Street. The two hicks went gaga over the fact that he was there with some young woman (probably his girlfriend) and looked bored out of his skull.
10 posted on 03/09/2004 7:07:52 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!")
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To: dinok
I wonder if there were any alcohol related deaths today.
11 posted on 03/09/2004 7:08:00 PM PST by TankerKC (My life is a Country Song.)
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To: Paul Atreides
Spalding Gray's been dead for like 2 months. He must be part of some earlier trilogy.
12 posted on 03/09/2004 7:08:22 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!")
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To: TankerKC
Not of any note, but I'll keep you updated. Why do you ask?
13 posted on 03/09/2004 7:10:21 PM PST by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
"Spalding Gray's been dead for like 2 months. "

Yeah...floaters don't count.

14 posted on 03/09/2004 7:10:58 PM PST by mass55th
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To: Indy Pendance
This really sucks. I liked his acting very much. What a waste.
15 posted on 03/09/2004 7:13:11 PM PST by Marie (My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
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To: whereasandsoforth
I'm just the curious sort.
16 posted on 03/09/2004 7:13:14 PM PST by TankerKC (My life is a Country Song.)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
However, his body was only recently found.
17 posted on 03/09/2004 7:13:42 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: mass55th
That's cold. Funny, but cold.
18 posted on 03/09/2004 7:18:01 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!")
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To: TankerKC
"The National Alcohol-Related Death Center reports there were only 6 deaths today."

Damn! Two less and they won't have federal funding.

Drink people! Drink!
19 posted on 03/09/2004 7:18:20 PM PST by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: Paul Atreides
Sorry, but that doesn't count.
20 posted on 03/09/2004 7:18:21 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!")
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Well, it'll have to do! Unless you can come up with another one who has died within the past two months. ;-)
21 posted on 03/09/2004 7:20:55 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: Paul Atreides
Nope. Disqualified!
22 posted on 03/09/2004 7:21:34 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!")
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To: NYC GOP Chick
:-P

Does Ben Affleck's career count?

23 posted on 03/09/2004 7:22:44 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: Paul Atreides
LOL! I wish! :D
24 posted on 03/09/2004 7:23:58 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!")
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To: NYC GOP Chick
I think we could count Martha Stewart's career as one.
25 posted on 03/09/2004 7:24:46 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: Paul Atreides
Honestly, I wouldn't count her out quite yet.
26 posted on 03/09/2004 7:25:44 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!")
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Spalding Gray's been dead for like 2 months. He must be part of some earlier trilogy.

Hamas/muslum terrorist Abu Abbas recently took the dirt nap.

27 posted on 03/09/2004 7:27:21 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: archy
Nope. Terrorist scum doesn't count, as we're glad that he's DEAD DEAD DEAD!
28 posted on 03/09/2004 7:28:32 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!")
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To: NYC GOP Chick
I was very surprised that she was found guilty.
29 posted on 03/09/2004 7:29:36 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: Paul Atreides
So was I, especially since they didn't prosecute her for insider trading.
30 posted on 03/09/2004 7:30:58 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!")
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To: Paul Atreides
Granny always said it comes in threes.
31 posted on 03/09/2004 7:33:20 PM PST by Samwise (I am going to need to be sedated before this election is over.)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Frances Dee (94), actress, died Saturday of a stroke. She was married to Joel McCrea & owned lots of land in So. California. Does she count?
32 posted on 03/09/2004 7:33:26 PM PST by girlreporter
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To: evad
Just saw him in Eraser a few days ago, as the mafia guy in the witness protection program. One of the good parts of that movie, was his role. Damn.
33 posted on 03/09/2004 7:33:26 PM PST by Newtoidaho
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To: girlreporter
Never heard of her, but if you want to count her, sure!
34 posted on 03/09/2004 7:34:45 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!")
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To: Samwise
Mine sez the same thing, only, she is talking about how many times, during the night, she has to get out of bed to go to the bathroom. ;-)
35 posted on 03/09/2004 7:38:14 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: dinok
yeah because being illegal makes people not die from them..
If someone is dumb enough to use enough drugs to kill themselves, that's their business.
36 posted on 03/09/2004 7:43:06 PM PST by Awestruck (Formerly Goodie D)
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To: Awestruck
"If someone is dumb enough to use enough drugs to kill themselves, that's their business"

Tell that to the family of my brother in law...his kids who have no father but a grave stone...his wife who has to raise them alone...his mother and father whom he robbed and terrorized...oh yes...drugs are harmless. My family is real enthused by them.

Look...you will not ever convince me legalizing them is right.
37 posted on 03/09/2004 7:54:34 PM PST by dinok
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To: dinok
If drugs were legal, he wouldn't have needed to rob and terrorize. Of course, if the drugs weren't the cause of the robbing and terrorizing, then the legalization whacking is misplaced.
38 posted on 03/09/2004 8:09:05 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: dinok
I never said drugs are harmless.. I said adults make their own decisions, and if their decisions affect others adversely, they are idiots...but obviously your brother in law and mr pastorelli, along with millions of others are not stopped by the illegality..so what's the point? People who use have big problems..jail doesn't make good citizens of people with drug problems.
39 posted on 03/09/2004 10:25:34 PM PST by Awestruck (Formerly Goodie D)
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To: dinok
The only things benefitting from keeping drugs illegal are drug dealer's bank accounts
and police department budgets. Everyone else just pays for it. Otherwise the war on drugs has been a colossal failure. The store of your brother in law proves the futility of a fight we have paid hundreds of billions of dollars for yet doesn't work and doesn't have any chance of working.

The answer to the problem isn't to marginally constrict supply and make other people wealthy in the process while frittering away our rights.

If you want to do something about the problems with drug abuse, make everyone responsible for their own actions. From choosing to do the drugs, paying for any medical treatment they need (no government handouts), harsh jail sentences if they harm anyone while under the influence of drugs (or to support their habbit), and finally, allowing every law abiding citizen to exercise their right to keep and bear arms, so that if somebody under the influence of drugs or booze threatens them, they can take care of themselves.
40 posted on 03/09/2004 10:44:50 PM PST by flashbunny (Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.)
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To: flashbunny
Yeah, just stop the war on drugs and everything will be sweet. We need more people addicted and dead at 49. More lives and families destroyed. Hospitals full of addicts who are penniless and on the dole. More murders, robberies and crime committed by desperate druggies. That won't cost a thing, right?

Your story has become tiresome...take it somewhere else.

41 posted on 03/09/2004 11:01:35 PM PST by Deb (Democrats HATE America...there's no other explanation.)
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To: Deb
"Your story has become tiresome...take it somewhere else."

The final line of someone who has no ammunition in a debate and wishes the people who are talking facts would take it elsewhere. And based on your reply, you didn't bother to read what I posted. You just knee-jerked your post right onto the board. So I don't expect you to read any further, since logic and facts apparently won't get through to you.

First: My solution is that there is no dole. No unconstitutional WOD (federal WOD - states can wage a pointless war if they want to) bound to the elimination of unconstitutional welfare state. Therefore, if you get addicted, you pay for treatment. If you can't work, you get no assistance. You make your choices and you pay the consequences. You want to steal to support your habbit? You go to jail for theft. You lay strung out on the street? You get hauled in for public intoxication - and you pay for your jail stay. Finally, if you decide to rob a good citizen, your law breaking meets up with their second amendment rights. Enable personal choices bound with personal responsibility and high consequences for harming others because of your decisions.

It's a better system than we have in place today. Despite years and years of fighting, rights of all citizens being stripped away to fight the deeds of a few, and a billions and billions of dollars spent to stop it, it still goes on. People still overdose. People still steal to support their habbits. People still ruin their lives. The war on drugs has stopped none of this. What it has done is made drug dealers richer by simple market economics (restricted supply of a high demand product = higher prices). And it has turned our police forces into paramilitary outfits funded by the never ending need to fight the WOD. But no matter how much they spend, they never win. Never.

The war on drugs is a failure. The federal government has no constitutional authority to wage it (unlike when it actually passed an amendment to wage the war on booze) and our rights get flushed down the drain just to stop people from harming themselves. Well guess what: people harm themselves every day. From suicide that kils them to fast food that kills them cigarrettes that kill them to booze that kills them. People destroying their lives is a tragedy, but it isn't government's responsibility to stop them. It's government's responsibility to prevent people who make bad choices from harming anyone else. That's why law enforcement should be concentrating on: People who do other people harm, not some loser who lights up a joint a few times a week but still manages to otherwise live his life normally.

The real question is why would you want to continue this? Do you think that if we just spend enough, or strip away enough constitutional protections, we'll eventually win? Do you think that there is a government program that can stop people from making bad decisions with their lives???
42 posted on 03/09/2004 11:23:20 PM PST by flashbunny (Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.)
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To: Newtoidaho
Just saw him in Eraser a few days ago, as the mafia guy in the witness protection program..

Yeah..
What's amazing is how long ago, way before 9-11, Hollywood was making movies about islamo-psychos that wanted to destroy America.

Eraser, Executive Decision, Peacemakers and Debt of Honor with "A PLANE USED AS A WEAPON". Of course that one was a Jap so it's back to the islamo psychos trying to kill us with eboli in Executive Orders to balance it out.

43 posted on 03/10/2004 4:20:31 AM PST by evad (Cut taxes again. Cut spending. Cut Guv Regulations. Cut Guv Programs...Repeat)
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To: evad
Correction...Eraser was about the proto type rail gun sales to terrorists...True Lies was the movie with the Islamo nuts with the two nukes.

So many..I get em mixed up ;-)

44 posted on 03/10/2004 4:23:38 AM PST by evad (Cut taxes again. Cut spending. Cut Guv Regulations. Cut Guv Programs...Repeat)
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To: evad
Yeah, how could the nitwit writer forget that? I loved him in that movie.
45 posted on 03/10/2004 4:26:43 AM PST by rabidralph (Crush Kerry's berries.)
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To: flashbunny
Is there an example where legalizing drugs has actually worked?

Personally, I'm between the two extremes on this one. What we have doesn't work and as far as I know, what you propose doesn't work...unless you have an example to the contrary.

46 posted on 03/10/2004 4:34:23 AM PST by evad (Cut taxes again. Cut spending. Cut Guv Regulations. Cut Guv Programs...Repeat)
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To: evad
It worked in one of my favorite countries for over 150 years. Their citizens had a right to defend themselves against attackers, using almost any guns they wanted (heck, you could even order machine guns through the mail) and crime was low. There was no 'social safety net', so if people didn't work, they didn't survive. So they worked. And if they chose to do drugs and couldn't support themselves, they lived in squalor and felt the results of their own actions. Government wasn't there to give them a hand out. If they needed help, it was up to private citizens and organizations to help them.






It was the united states. It stopped working when people thought it was their business to keep other people from making bad choices with their life. It turned us from a nation of free, independent individuals into a nanny state, where the government has a duty to keep you from doing things that are bad for yourself but don't harm anyone else. And of course, to do that, they now have the right to do no-knock warrants on you or seize your entire farm if they find someone else has been growing pot on it without your knowledge. Plus when other people's actions became our responsiblity, it was our responsibility to take care of them financially as well.

So what system would you rather live under?

The one where you had true property rights, true constitutional protections, your money wasn't taken away from you to pay for someone else's stupidity, you could protect yourself how you wanted, and if someone somewhere else wanted to harm themselves by getting high, it wasn't the government's business as long as they didn't harm anyone?

Or the system we have now that costs billions and billions of dollars, constantly nibbles our rights away, and doesn't work at all and shows no sign of ever working?

47 posted on 03/10/2004 10:27:27 AM PST by flashbunny (Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.)
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To: flashbunny
"It worked in one of my favorite countries for over 150 years"

Well, that would put us into the 40's and with all due respect, there wasn't much of a drug supply and usage problem then.

Now, I'm not in disagreement with anything you said but I was speaking of something a little more relevant to today's situation.

If we legalize drugs I see numerous problems there and if we continue like we are, well, we already know that doesn't work. I was asking if there is any country, state or county that has some type of a program in existence today that actually works...today.

48 posted on 03/10/2004 5:47:48 PM PST by evad (Cut taxes again. Cut spending. Cut Guv Regulations. Cut Guv Programs...Repeat)
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