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Planned Parenthood Hires Chaplain to Combat Anti-Christian Criticism
LifeNews.com ^ | March 10, 2004 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 03/10/2004 10:26:55 AM PST by WildReeling

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- In an attempt to counter criticism that it's unyielding support of abortion runs counter to the Christian religious views of most Americans, Planned Parenthood has announced it has hired a national chaplain to advocate the "spiritual side" of abortion advocacy.

The national abortion business appointed Rev. Ignacio Castuera, senior pastor of St. John's United Methodist Church in the Watts community of Los Angeles, as its chaplain.

"His expertise in offering spiritual insight and guidance to the reproductive health movement is invaluable," Planned Parenthood president Gloria Feldt said.

The appointment is also an attempt by the abortion business to foster better relations with the Hispanic community, which is largely pro-life.

But that won't fly with Hispanic-Americans, Raimundo Rojas tells LifeNews.com.

(Excerpt) Read more at lifenews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; chaplain; christian; christianlist; hispanic; humanrights; infanticide; lyingliar; methodist; murder; plannedparenthood; pp; prolife; propagandist; protestant; protestantsabortion; religiousleft; unitedmethodist; wolfinsheepsclothing
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1 posted on 03/10/2004 10:26:57 AM PST by WildReeling
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To: WildReeling
This is too funny. They hire Guido Sarducci to put a Christian face on an anti-Christian movement; no one will be fooled. There are already enough ministers willing to shill for the abortion movement; this does nothing to change the equation.
2 posted on 03/10/2004 10:30:04 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: WildReeling
Oh that's just great. :-( Another reason to be embarrassed to be associated with the UMC.
3 posted on 03/10/2004 10:30:05 AM PST by WVNan
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To: Coleus; Tabi Katz; Cacique; Clemenza
They're at it again.
4 posted on 03/10/2004 10:30:21 AM PST by firebrand
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To: WildReeling
I remember the Nazi Party using priests and preachers to shill for them too, while sending the likes of Dietrich Bonnhoffer to imprisonment and death.

Anathema sit.
5 posted on 03/10/2004 10:33:53 AM PST by Ronly Bonly Jones (The more things change...)
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To: WildReeling
INTREP - Just by virtue of the fact that he has accepted this position means that he must be an APOSTATE!
6 posted on 03/10/2004 10:34:57 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: xzins
Rev. Ignacio Castuera, senior pastor of St. John's United Methodist Church in the Watts community of Los Angeles

special advisor on the murder of babies in the womb - better a mill stone should have been tied about his neck and be thrown in to the sea

7 posted on 03/10/2004 10:40:25 AM PST by TrueBeliever9
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To: WildReeling
This guy is going to be lonelier than the Maytag repairman.
8 posted on 03/10/2004 10:42:09 AM PST by Ol' Sox
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To: TrueBeliever9
I think Psalm 137:9 is the appropriate verse to pray for the parties mentioned in this article. Since our Rock is Jesus, we can ask God to deal with those who kill babies for a living by taking away their own children from them, by converting them into pro-life Christians!
9 posted on 03/10/2004 10:46:18 AM PST by TomSmedley ((technical writer looking for work!))
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To: TrueBeliever9
California, Pacific, and Northwest branches of my denomination are out of control.

10 posted on 03/10/2004 10:48:10 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of it!!)
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To: cpforlife.org; NYer; CAtholic Family Association; livius; AAABEST
Culture of death ping.
11 posted on 03/10/2004 10:55:12 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: TomSmedley
Just goes to show that if a person doesn't have a creed to stand on, anything goes. Just because a person calls himself "Christian" does not mean that he adhers to Biblical doctrine.

Matthew 7:15,16 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?"
12 posted on 03/10/2004 10:57:28 AM PST by taxesareforever
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To: WildReeling
This is akin to Hillary saying she is hiring a personal trainer.
13 posted on 03/10/2004 11:03:44 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: WildReeling
>senior pastor of St. John's United Methodist Church

The Methodist church here in town is the only one that won't support the crisis pregnancy center. I can't say that I'm surprised...but I do wonder how these clowns let the Episcopalians steal the leadership position on the whole "gay" thing from them.

Come on ye Methodists - you'd better start working harder on that apostasy business! :)
14 posted on 03/10/2004 11:07:49 AM PST by applemac_g4
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To: WildReeling
Is his husband also from Los Angeles?
15 posted on 03/10/2004 11:49:01 AM PST by Jaxter ("Guys like John Kerry spit on guys like me…I've been waiting 33 years to spit back.")
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To: WildReeling
Lord, save me from the secular Socialists who crusade in your name....

Amen.

16 posted on 03/10/2004 11:52:53 AM PST by atomicpossum (Fun pics in my profile)
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To: WildReeling
Well, I guess I have to check the UMC off the list of Christian denominations.

You know, it keeps getting shorter...
17 posted on 03/10/2004 11:58:59 AM PST by redgolum
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To: WildReeling
Note that he is a methodist. How will this in any way influence mostly *Catholic* pro-life Hispanics?

anyway, will he be giving any last rites for preborn aborted babies? What 'guidance' will he give?
18 posted on 03/10/2004 12:05:16 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com - Disturb, manipulate, demonstrate for the right thing)
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To: WOSG
Let's not forget the millions of Hispanic Evangelicals and Pentecostal Christians as well who would be even less receptive to these cretins message.
19 posted on 03/10/2004 12:33:58 PM PST by Clemenza (End Nation Building NOW!)
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To: WildReeling
It says "The appointment is also an attempt by the abortion business to foster better relations with the Hispanic community, which is largely pro-life."

What it means

"it is also an attempt by the abortion mills to get more business from the Hispanic community, which is a growing minority and a huge possible profit center"

Baz-zastards......

20 posted on 03/10/2004 12:38:47 PM PST by China Clipper
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To: WildReeling
Try stopping abortions...
21 posted on 03/10/2004 1:25:24 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Donaeus
bttt
22 posted on 03/10/2004 1:27:50 PM PST by Donaeus ( Change the world, not en mass, but by planting freedom in one heart/mind at a time.)
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To: WildReeling
Nothing new. I was a member of a denomination that prayed for abortion on demand, parading their piety on the steps of the state capitol.

The Methodists, Lutherans, and many other groups (Catholic included) are part of the Relgious Coalition for Abortion Rights. It is a religious right because no one knows when life begins. To ban abortion is to trample on their religious freedom. It is so obvious to brain-dead, pothead, self-involved narcissists.
23 posted on 03/10/2004 1:27:57 PM PST by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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To: WildReeling
Hmmm... NAMBLA should probably retain a couple of pedo priests for the same reasons.
24 posted on 03/10/2004 1:31:07 PM PST by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: sine_nomine
Not all Lutherans or Catholics, but certanly some.

I am getting the feeling that there are some in the churches that HATE what the Bible says. What happened?
25 posted on 03/10/2004 1:35:33 PM PST by redgolum
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To: firebrand
thanks, how did I know it as probably a methodist minister before i scrolled up?
26 posted on 03/10/2004 1:49:57 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: WildReeling
LOL - Planned Abortionhood is a joke.
27 posted on 03/10/2004 1:51:21 PM PST by BlkConserv
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To: firebrand
"Better relations with the Hispanic community" = more dead Hispanic babies. What god do these "clerics" pray to anyway, the god of child sacrifice?
28 posted on 03/10/2004 2:10:49 PM PST by Tabi Katz
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To: redgolum
I am getting the feeling that there are some in the churches that HATE what the Bible says. What happened?

70+ years of attempted socialist takeover of America.

The amoral don't care if they pervert the churches' stance on these issues. Either the flock will follow the new teachings or else the flock will abandon the church (even if we still believe in God).

Either way the church ceases to stand for anything. Socialists win.

29 posted on 03/10/2004 2:11:12 PM PST by weegee ('...Kerry is like that or so a crack sausage.')
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To: sine_nomine
"and many other groups (Catholic included) are part of the Relgious Coalition for Abortion Rights"

"Catholics for a Free Choice" is a left-funded foaming-at-the-mouth group, that the American Bischops have at least TWICE declared as NOT Catholic, and not permitted to claim that they are. (Does a lot of good, doesn't it? If Frances Kissling listened to the Catholic Church, the group would not exist in the first place!!~)

BTW, "sine nomine" is one of my favorite hymns "For all the saints who from their labor rest, their names, O Jesus, be for ever blessed . . . " (For All the Saints in English, "sine nomine" in Latin, don't know why . . )
30 posted on 03/10/2004 2:20:23 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: WildReeling; tame
ping
31 posted on 03/10/2004 2:21:33 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: WildReeling
Next they can keep Keith Richards on standby as an organ donor.
These abortionists are nuts. Perfect Democrats.
32 posted on 03/10/2004 2:22:38 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Steve_Seattle
How did Don Novello get dragged into this? I didn't see his name in the article.
33 posted on 03/10/2004 2:24:11 PM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; ...
ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

34 posted on 03/10/2004 2:24:34 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
I remember the Nazi Party using priests and preachers to shill for them too, while sending the likes of Dietrich Bonnhoffer to imprisonment and death.

Richard Wurmbrand spent 14 years being tortured regularly in Romanian prisons because he spoke out for Christ at a Communist-run "conference of religions." Not long before Wurmbrand stepped up to the podium, the head Orthodox bishop for the country showed off his new vestments, with a stole that had the cross on one end and the hammer-and-sickle on the other. He said, "You must no longer call me 'Your Grace', but instead call me 'Comrade Bishop.'"

Wurmbrand's wife said to him, "Richard, get up there and wipe this spit off the face of Christ!"

This is no different. These people where the vestments of Christ's family and spew the lies of Hell, and they have even less excuse than the men Wurmbrand rebuked--No one is going to put a gun to their head if they take the pro-life side.

35 posted on 03/10/2004 2:35:16 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: WildReeling
If I hear the phrase "reproductive health" one more time, I'm going to projectile hurl.
36 posted on 03/10/2004 3:02:51 PM PST by T Minus Four
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To: WildReeling
as he counts out his 30 peices of silver...
37 posted on 03/10/2004 3:04:18 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: WildReeling
Margaret Sanger and her associates used this very same tactic of using reverands and preachers to promote abortion in the black communities.

Link

38 posted on 03/10/2004 3:15:57 PM PST by PallMal
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To: WildReeling
They have to be kidding.
39 posted on 03/10/2004 3:16:18 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: WildReeling; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; CAtholic Family Association; ...
Finally, careful consideration should be given to the danger of this power passing into the hands of those public authorities who care little for the precepts of the moral law. Who will blame a government which in its attempt to resolve the problems affecting an entire country resorts to the same measures as are regarded as lawful by married people in the solution of a particular family difficulty? Who will prevent public authorities from favoring those contraceptive methods which they consider more effective? Should they regard this as necessary, they may even impose their use on everyone. It could well happen, therefore, that when people, either individually or in family or social life, experience the inherent difficulties of the divine law and are determined to avoid them, they may give into the hands of public authorities the power to intervene in the most personal and intimate responsibility of husband and wife.
HUMANAE VITAE

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


40 posted on 03/10/2004 3:16:41 PM PST by NYer (Ad Jesum per Mariam)
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To: WildReeling
Chaplains for sale or rent ...
41 posted on 03/10/2004 3:17:22 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: PallMal; WildReeling; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; ...
Black Catholics Vigil For Life
STOPP Planned Parenthood
Renewed push for NJ Clone & Kill Bill, A2840/S1909. Immediate Action Needed!!!
 

42 posted on 03/10/2004 3:28:56 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: GOP_Thug_Mom
ping
43 posted on 03/10/2004 5:58:33 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (Always finish what you st)
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To: AMDG&BVMH
I think the author wanted to play with the idea of giving each hymn tune a name, such as Redhead Number two. So he called it "without a name," as I am.
44 posted on 03/10/2004 7:37:22 PM PST by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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To: AMDG&BVMH
I think the author wanted to play with the idea of giving each hymn tune a name, such as Redhead Number two. So he called it "without a name," as I am.
45 posted on 03/10/2004 7:37:29 PM PST by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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To: redgolum
We are in the era of the Great Apostasy, when the church leaders hate their own doctrine. It was predicted in the Pastoral Epistles, which the apostates say were NOT written by Paul. They only like what Paul says about giving money.
46 posted on 03/10/2004 7:39:38 PM PST by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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To: nickcarraway
Stopping abortion?

It is possible -- check out these threads.

Closure Threatens Clinic in Eugene School

Eugene Abortion Clinic Closes; Surprising Many (Hooray!!!)

Planned Parenthood will shut down 3 clinics (Indiana)

Persevering Students Help Close Abortion Clinic

Former Abortion Provider Describes Pro-life Conversion

47 posted on 03/10/2004 10:32:49 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: WildReeling
I'm amazed how low these so-called "ministers" will sink...
48 posted on 03/11/2004 1:15:08 AM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: AMDG&BVMH
For All the Saints in English, "sine nomine" in Latin, don't know why . . )

. . . thereby hangs a tale, as they say.

Most hymn tunes have their own name, because different words can be sung to the same tune (and the same words to different tunes!) In the case of Sine Nomine, the tune and the words are closely married because of Vaughn Williams' somewhat complex setting, but that isn't always the case.

BTW, "Sine nomine" means "without name," usually indicates that the publisher's name is not attached. But in this case the tune's name is "No Name." Sort of like Odysseus telling the Cyclops that his name is "Nobody," or the tinker woman who was under bond never to tell her name, so she was "Ban Gan'Ainm" or "Woman No-Name".

49 posted on 03/11/2004 6:37:11 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother; sine_nomine
"usually indicates that the publisher's name is not attached. But in this case the tune's name is "No Name." "

Thanks, I did understand that sine nomine means without a name; so I thought it might be anonymous. It is interesting to know that sine nomine IS actually its name!! A clever oxymoron . . .
50 posted on 03/11/2004 6:47:45 AM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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