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MY HELL IN CAMP X-RAY [MAJOR BARF ALERT]
Daily Mirror ^ | March 12, 2004 | Rosa Prince and Gary Jones

Posted on 03/12/2004 3:53:19 AM PST by ejdrapes

MY HELL IN CAMP X-RAY

A BRITISH captive freed from Guantanamo Bay today tells the world of its full horror - and reveals how prostitutes were taken into the camp to degrade Muslim inmates.

Jamal al-Harith, 37, who arrived home three days ago after two years of confinement, is the first detainee to lift the lid on the US regime in Cuba's Camp X-Ray and Camp Delta.

The father-of-three, from Manchester, told how he was assaulted with fists, feet and batons after refusing a mystery injection.

He said detainees were shackled for up to 15 hours at a time in hand and leg cuffs with metal links which cut into the skin.

Their "cells" were wire cages with concrete floors and open to the elements - giving no privacy or protection from the rats, snakes and scorpions loose around the American base.

He claims punishment beatings were handed out by guards known as the Extreme Reaction Force. They waded into inmates in full riot-gear, raining blows on them.

Prisoners faced psychological torture and mind-games in attempts to make them confess to acts they had never committed. Even petty breaches of rules brought severe punishment.

Medical treatment was sparse and brutal and amputations of limbs were more drastic than required, claimed Jamal.

A diet of foul water and food up to 10 years out-of-date left inmates malnourished.

But Jamal's most shocking disclosure centred on the use of vice girls to torment the most religiously devout detainees.

Prisoners who had never seen an "unveiled" woman before would be forced to watch as the hookers touched their own naked bodies.

The men would return distraught. One said an American girl had smeared menstrual blood across his face in an act of humiliation.

Jamal said: "I knew of this happening about 10 times. It always seemed to be those who were very young or known to be particularly religious who would be taken away.

"I would joke with the other British lads, 'Bring them to us - we'll have them'. It made us laugh. But the Americans obviously knew we wouldn't be shocked by seeing Western women, so they didn't bother.

"It was a profoundly disturbing experience for these men. They would refuse to speak about what had happened. It would take perhaps four weeks for them to tell a friend - and we would shout it out around the whole block."

Jamal added: "The whole point of Guantanamo was to get to you psychologically. The beatings were not as nearly as bad as the psychological torture - bruises heal after a week - but the other stuff stays with you."

HE was talking from a secret location after being reunited with his family. The website designer, a convert to Islam, had gone to Pakistan in October 2001, a few weeks after September 11, to study Muslim culture.

He accidentally strayed into Afghanistan - believing he was being driven to Turkey - and was arrested as a spy, perhaps because of his British passport. He was held in Kandahar, Afghanistan, and fell into US hands.

Now Jamal bears the scars of Guantanamo. He stoops into a hunch as he walks because the shackles that bound him were too short.

As a punishment, inmates would be confined so tightly they would be forced to lie in a ball for hours. During lengthy interrogation, they would be tethered to a metal ring on the floor.

Jamal said: "Sometimes you would be chained up on the floor with your hands and feet actually bound together. One of my friends told me he was kept like that for 15 hours once.

"Recreation meant your legs were untied and you walked up and down a strip of gravel. In Camp X-Ray you only got five minutes but in Delta you walked for around 15 minutes."

Jamal said victims of the Extreme Reaction Force were paraded in front of cells. "It was a horrible sight and it was a frequent sight."

He said one unit used force-feeding to end a hunger strike by 70 per cent of the 600 inmates. The strike started after a guard deliberately kicked a copy of the Koran.

Rice and beans was the usual diet and the water was "filthy". Jamal added: "In Camp X-Ray it was yellow and in Delta it was black - the colour of Coca-Cola.

"We had it piped through with a tap in each 'cage' but they would often turn the water off as punishment.

"They would shut off the water before prayers so we couldn't wash ourselves according to our religion.

"The food was terrible as well, up to 10 years out-of-date. They would open a hatch and shove it through a section at a time.

"We had porridge and something they called 'like-milk', which was disgusting and 'like-tea' and a piece of fruit. The fruit had been frozen and pounded with chemicals. An apple might look red but there was waxy white stuff all over it and inside it would be black and brown.

"They would play tricks on people by denying them things - you might be the only person on your block who didn't get any bread. I prided myself on never asking them for anything. I would not beg." Jamal said they were told they had no rights. "They actually said that - 'You have no rights here'. After a while, we stopped asking for human rights - we wanted animal rights. In Camp X-Ray my cage was right next to a kennel housing an Alsatian dog.

"He had a wooden house with air conditioning and green grass to exercise on. I said to the guards, 'I want his rights' and they replied, 'That dog is member of the US army'.

"You would be punished for anything - for having six packets of salt in your cell rather than five, for hanging your towel through the cage if it wasn't wet, even for having your spoon and things lined up in the wrong order."

Being forced to use a bucket as a toilet in view of other inmates and guards was particularly embarrassing. Jamal said: "I never got used to it - we would all put our towels and clothes around us.

"But the Military Police up in the tower would see us and would shout to each other.

"We were only allowed a shower once a week at the beginning and none at all in solitary confinement.

"This was very tough because you are supposed to be clean when you pray.

"Gradually the number of showers rose to three a week. They were always cold.

"You would be chained by two MPs while you were still in the cage before being taken off for what they called 'rec and shower'.

"You could sometimes see the guards tampering with the shower heads to make water squirt all over the inmate's clothes if he had put them up to protect his privacy."

Inmates were issued with "comfort items" - known as CIs - like shampoo, towels, a washcloth and boxer shorts. CIs would be removed as a punishment.

Jamal defiantly refused "treats", such as watching a James Bond film in a room dubbed The Love Shack by inmates.

He added: "Some people were given pizzas, ice-cream and McDonald's, but they didn't offer them to me. I guess they knew bribery would work with some and not with others."

To pass the time, inmates would chat to each other, pray, read the Koran and sing Islamic songs. In Camp X-Ray, they were given Mills and Boon-style romance novels in Arabic, which they refused to read.

Describing medical treatment, Jamal said he knew of 11 men who had legs amputated and two who lost toes and fingers. He was told that the Americans had removed far more tissue than was necessary.

HE added: "The man in the cell next to me had frostbite in two fingers and two toes. He also had it in his big toe, but they didn't treat that for a year by which time they had to cut off much more than was needed.

"All the men who had lost limbs complained they would chop them off high up and not bother to try to save as much as possible."

Jamal added that he didn't have close friends in Guantanamo, saying: "When I did meet the other Brits, we would reminisce about home - particularly the food.

"We were all obsessed with Scottish Highland Shortbread - we wanted some so much.

"One of the Brits told me he was asked why he was a Muslim, because he ought to be praying to the Queen."

Jamal, who is divorced with daughters aged three and eight and a son of five, is convinced his refusal to succumb to mind-games gave him the will to come through.

He said: "It was very, very hard at times, but I tried to think about nothing but survival.

"I kept my thoughts from home as much as possible because it would drive me crazy.

"About a year into my time, I had a dream. A voice said, 'You will here for two years'.

"In my dream I said, 'Two years! You're joking'. But when I woke up, I was calmer because at least that meant I would be getting out one day.

"I was sent to Guantanamo on February 11, 2002 and left on March 9, 2004, so I was there for just over two years, just like the voice in the dream said."


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KEYWORDS: britons; campdelta; campxray; detainees; gitmo; ukmuslims
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Disgusting. How any newspaper can print this sh*t is beyond me. Who in their right mind would believe this crap?
1 posted on 03/12/2004 3:53:19 AM PST by ejdrapes
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To: ejdrapes
This coming on the heels of the Russian's that desperately wanted to stay, and the kid that learned English, was well fed, and had little bad to say about the experience.

Gotta love the Mirror...
2 posted on 03/12/2004 3:54:28 AM PST by ECM
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To: ejdrapes
This is what we have come to expect from the British left-wing press.

They have the credibility of John Kerry.

3 posted on 03/12/2004 3:55:34 AM PST by cerberus
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To: ejdrapes
Muslims.

They lie. What else can you say?

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4 posted on 03/12/2004 3:57:00 AM PST by chronic_loser (Yeah? so what do I know?)
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To: ejdrapes
Prisoners who had never seen an "unveiled" woman before would be forced to watch as the hookers touched their own naked bodies.

[...]

The men would return distraught.

[...]

"It was a profoundly disturbing experience for these men. They would refuse to speak about what had happened. It would take perhaps four weeks for them to tell a friend

If true, this shows what a bunch of pansy-ass losers these al Qaeda freaks really are.

5 posted on 03/12/2004 3:58:28 AM PST by AM2000
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6 posted on 03/12/2004 3:59:32 AM PST by AM2000
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To: ejdrapes

Friday March 5, 09:39 AM
Jamal Al-Harith, a British detainee at Guantanamo Bay. Al-Harith's sister told the BBC that her brother is one of five British prisoners who will be freed from the detention camp in Cuba. AFP/Banaras Khan
7 posted on 03/12/2004 4:01:28 AM PST by kcvl
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To: AM2000
sorry. evidently geocities doesn't like you to link to a page from some where's else. If you type the address into your browser, you will get it. It is a hoot.
8 posted on 03/12/2004 4:01:55 AM PST by chronic_loser (Yeah? so what do I know?)
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To: ejdrapes
Vivid imagination this fellow has. The menstrual blood and the doghouse are nice touches. Calculated to horrify Muslims, I'm sure...
9 posted on 03/12/2004 4:03:03 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: ECM
Story 'for sale'

ONE of the British terror suspects released from Guantanamo Bay was yesterday preparing to cash in.

Jamal al Harith, 37 – born Ronald Fiddler – is considering selling the story of his two-year detention.

His family are also weighing up whether to sue Britain and the US over his jailing.

Al Harith, from Moss Side, Manchester, was reunited with them at a secret location yesterday after his release without charge.

Sister Maxine said: “He’s in good health, happy to be free and everybody is just glad that he is home.”

Web designer al Harith was sent to Cuba after he was captured by US troops in Afghanistan.

The brother of Tarek Dergoul – who was freed last night – has contacted PR guru Max Clifford.

Mr Clifford said: “We are waiting to see what is going to happen.”

10 posted on 03/12/2004 4:03:28 AM PST by kcvl
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Cashing in ... Jamal

It looks like to me that he has GAINED WEIGHT!

11 posted on 03/12/2004 4:04:59 AM PST by kcvl
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To: ejdrapes
I'm suprised he didn't claim Bush raped him. The left wingers would believe it.
12 posted on 03/12/2004 4:06:03 AM PST by Bogey78O (The Democrats promised jobs but all they gave you was gay marriage- AppyPappy)
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More here...


http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004112120,00.html
13 posted on 03/12/2004 4:06:04 AM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Funny, he doesn't look too stooped or hunched in that picture. 8^P
14 posted on 03/12/2004 4:07:54 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: kcvl
His posture looks pretty good in that one, too.
15 posted on 03/12/2004 4:09:13 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Mr al-Harith, 37, a father of three, was released without charge last night. He says he was taken prisoner by the Taleban before being taken into American custody. He is now considering suing the British and American governments for his two-year ordeal.
16 posted on 03/12/2004 4:13:00 AM PST by kcvl
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To: hellinahandcart
37-year-old Jamal al-Harith, also known as Jamal Udeen, was released after questioning at the air base by immigration authorities.

Al-Harith, a Web site designer from Manchester in northern England, reportedly was backpacking in Pakistan near the Afghan border when he was arrested in September 2001 by the Taliban, who feared he was a spy. He reportedly was sent to Guantanamo after U.S. forces found him in a jail in Kandahar, Afghanistan.

17 posted on 03/12/2004 4:18:05 AM PST by kcvl
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To: ejdrapes
Can't Jimrob etal get a bunch of these British papers off this site? It's garbage, little more than cheap propaganda. Filter them out. They won't be missed. I've noticed they get posted a lot on this site and another site (Lucy) I check for news. Their presence is not a service.
18 posted on 03/12/2004 4:18:10 AM PST by Waco
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To: ejdrapes
''Disgusting. How any newspaper can print this sh*t is beyond me. Who in their right mind would believe this crap?''

James Carville, Paul Begala, Tim Robbins, Jeanne Garafalo, Petey Jenkins....the list is way to long.....hmmmm 'right mind' is questionable.
19 posted on 03/12/2004 4:22:57 AM PST by USMARINE6 (All That Glitters is Not Gold...Some is Just Bright Yellow)
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To: hellinahandcart
The five Britons detained at Guantanamo Bay who are due to be released today are:



Ruhal Ahmed, 23, a student from Tipton, West Midlands. His family claim that he went to attend a friend's wedding in Pakistan some time between the end of September 2001 and the start of the US-led war with the Taleban on October 7.

He travelled with two other Muslim men from the same town. All three men became detainees at Camp Delta and have been dubbed the "Tipton Taleban".

The three men attended the town's Alexandra High School. US forces held Mr Ahmed in Kandahar, Afghanistan, before sending him to the US naval base detention centre on Cuba.

Mr Ahmed is the third of six children – two girls and four boys. His father is a British citizen who moved to the UK from what is now Bangladesh. After Mr Ahmed left school, he took a part-time job in a local factory and also helped in community centres. He is described by his family as a "very friendly boy" who was a keen kick boxer and a practising Muslim.

After flying out to Pakistan to help with the wedding, the family heard on January 26, 2002, that he was being held in Guantanamo Bay. His father, Riasoth Ahmed, said: "He is a kid, straight out of school. How could he be a terrorist? Out of here, and then at end of one month he was stopped."

Asif Iqbal, 20, a parcel depot worker from Tipton. Unconfirmed reports suggest that the Northern Alliance, the Taleban's enemy, captured him in northern Afghanistan.

Mr Iqbal travelled to Pakistan at his family's suggestion and was accompanied by his father Mohammed. His parents believed it was time for him to get married and settle down.

He met his prospective bride during his first week in Faisalabad, but told his father he wanted time to think and went to Karachi, but did not return, according to reports.

Shafiq Rasul, 25, left for Pakistan in late September 2001 to attend a computer training course in Lahore, according to his brother, Habib, an IT consultant.

Mr Rasul, from Tipton, had been abroad before only for trips to Benidorm and Tenerife on Club 18-30 package holidays. He was a passionate Liverpool football fan, was into fashion and clubbing and had a white girlfriend, according to his family.

Mr Rasul is believed to have been captured in Mazar-e-Sharif after a mutiny by prisoners.

Tarek Dergoul, 24, a former care worker for the elderly in East London. He is the son of a Moroccan baker and a lifelong Muslim.

It is believed that he was captured in the Tora Bora mountains to which the Taleban had fled after the US military onslaught. One of his arms was reportedly amputated after he was wounded.

He contacted his family in March 2002 to say he was being held in Kandahar. He originally told his family he was flying to Pakistan in 2001 to learn Arabic. He is believed to have been sent to Guantanamo Bay in May, 2002.

Jamal al-Harith, also known as Jamal Udeen, 35, is from Manchester and a website designer of Jamaican origin.

He is believed to have been detained in the spring of 2001 by US forces who found him in Kandahar Jail.

He had been away from home for only three weeks when he was captured. According to reports he told US soldiers he had paid a lorry driver to take him from northern Pakistan to Iran as part of a backpacking trip, but was stopped near the Afghan border by Taleban soldiers who saw his British passport and jailed him, fearing he was a spy.

Born Ronald Fiddler to devout churchgoing Jamaican parents, Mr al-Harith converted to Islam in his 20s. His family say he is a gentle, quiet man who rarely spoke of his faith unless asked, and after four years learning Arabic and teaching English at Khartoum University in Sudan, seemed happy enough to return home, marry and set up a computer business with his wife.

He was a devoted father to their three children and was devastated when the marriage broke down, moving back to Manchester, where he worked as an administrator in a Muslim school.

20 posted on 03/12/2004 4:25:11 AM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl
How do you get inline pics here? Nicer than linking.
21 posted on 03/12/2004 4:26:36 AM PST by chronic_loser (Yeah? so what do I know?)
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To: USMARINE6
West Bromwich West MP Adrian Bailey, who represents Ahmed, Iqbal and Rasul, said police needed to address why the trio were in Afghanistan three years ago during the American-led operation to root out al Qaida members.

He told BBC WM: "They were found in Afghanistan with the Taliban - that means there are big issues to be addressed.

"There are issues about how they got there, which we need to know in order to ensure that other young Muslim males do not follow that route. Intensive questioning is quite justified in that particular circumstance."

22 posted on 03/12/2004 4:29:27 AM PST by kcvl
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To: ejdrapes
Proof that islam supports lying.

What about the red cross that inspected and every other organization?

Seems like this wacko should have been keept there longer.
23 posted on 03/12/2004 4:31:55 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: ejdrapes
He left out the packs of wild boars our troops would feed some of the prisoners to. How could he leave that off? < /sarcasm>
24 posted on 03/12/2004 4:32:23 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Sweetest sound on earth: the clink of a dental hygienist finally putting down the scraping tools.)
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To: ejdrapes
We know this man is telling lies because his mouth is open and there's sound. Yet, there's other evidence. He claims an American soldier at the camp kicked a Koran on purpose, presumably to insult Islam.

Whether a Koran was kicked or not, even by accident, the cold, hard facts of life are that virtually NO American would think of doing that as an insult.

Now a Moslem might because Moslems believe kicking around a Koran is disrespectful ~ they do, after all, still have their idols 1400 years after Mohammad thought he'd gotten rid of them.

25 posted on 03/12/2004 4:34:08 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: ejdrapes
Brutal guards used to serve the salads on room-temperature plates. The wine was served cold, not chilled. And the selection of dessert pastries was abominable. Many times, my uniform had too much starch added at the cleaners. The maid was often late or insolent. I found a water spot on the chafing dish.

What are we, animals????

26 posted on 03/12/2004 4:36:36 AM PST by IronJack
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To: cerberus
BRITISH captive freed from Guantanamo Bay today tells the world of its full horror

Why not come to lower Manahattan if you want to hear about REAL horror on 9-11.

27 posted on 03/12/2004 4:39:40 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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"I was just going to a friend's wedding. In Pakistan."

"My dad picked out a dog of a bride for me and I just needed some time to think. In Pakistan, of course."

"I was only in Pakistan to take a computer course. Really."

"I was only going back-packing, and look what happened."

Uh-huh...
28 posted on 03/12/2004 4:40:30 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: IronJack
Now THAT'S funny!
29 posted on 03/12/2004 4:41:19 AM PST by Muzzle_em
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To: ejdrapes
This sand goblin woshipping turd burglar is lucky to be sucking oxygen after making war on the USA.

He better be thankful I wasn't President or there would have been about 100 extra sunrises on 9/12/01 over muslim lands.

30 posted on 03/12/2004 4:54:43 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: muawiyah
Whether a Koran was kicked or not, even by accident, the cold, hard facts of life are that virtually NO American would think of doing that as an insult.

Wanna bet ? I have one with some pig's blood I put on it ... and the words FASLE DOCTRINE written in the pages ....

31 posted on 03/12/2004 4:58:04 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: USMARINE6
The DU folks are eating it up.....
32 posted on 03/12/2004 4:59:03 AM PST by woofie ( 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.)
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To: hellinahandcart
His posture looks pretty good in that one, too.

To quote Monty Python "I've gotten better".

33 posted on 03/12/2004 5:00:05 AM PST by AlbertWang
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To: ejdrapes
Note to all good Muslims: don't stray into third world countries where gangs run the government and stealing, deception and killing is as common as the trash in the steets.
34 posted on 03/12/2004 5:00:59 AM PST by alrea (Kerry, the AFL-CIO and the U.N. can stop obesity and create jobs.)
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To: woofie
The DU folks are eating it up.....

They especially like the part about the hookers touching themselves.

35 posted on 03/12/2004 5:16:47 AM PST by veronica ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." GW Bush 1-20-04)
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To: ejdrapes
Reading of this sorry b*st*rd's sufferings made me smile. Even if more than half of it is leftist BS and exaggeration, the idea of tormenting and humiliating those religious totalitarian swine brings the wolf-grin to my face.

The Mirror makes the Guardian look like it's edited by Thatcherite stalwarts. For a second I got the impression that I was reading propaganda from Workers World Daily. LOL

36 posted on 03/12/2004 5:27:35 AM PST by FierceDraka (Service and Glory!)
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To: ejdrapes
Recent hearings by Senator John Kyl’s subcommittee on terrorism have exposed the growing dominance of a radical sect of Islam in the United States.

This sect, commonly referred to as Wahhabism, preaches jihad against Christian, Jews, and Muslims who don't toe the Wahhabi line. All 19 of the September 11 hijackers were followers of Wahhabism, as is Osama bin Laden. This violent perversion of Islamic faith has been responsible for terrorist attacks against innocent civilians — both Muslim and non-Muslim — all over the world.

As a movement, Wahhabism has established publishing operations, schools, and charities in many countries. The self-labeled "educational outreach" of this movement — financed largely by the wealth of Saudi Arabia, where Wahhabism is the official, and only state, religion — foments jihad and a fundamentalist theology to young people internationally, including in the United States.

And there have been a increasing number of instances in which Wahhabists have successfully penetrated key U.S. institutions, such as the military and our prison system. As several recent media reports have noted, the two groups that accredit and recommend Muslim chaplains to the military — the Graduate School of Islamic and Social Sciences and an organization under the umbrella of the American Muslim Foundation — have long been suspected of links to terrorist organizations by the federal government. The Graduate School and another group accused of ties to Islamic extremists — the Islamic Society of North America — also refer Muslim clerics to the U.S. Bureau of Prisons.

Just this week, one of the key architects of the U.S. military's chaplain program, Abdurahman Alamoudi, was arrested and charged with an illegal relationship with Libya, long a state sponsor of terror. Federal investigators also have detained a Muslim clergymen who was once stationed at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba — Captain James Yee — and is being investigated for potential ties to al Qaeda.

The New York State prison system promoted a Muslim cleric to a position that allowed him to supervise the hiring and firing of all prison chaplains. He was later removed from his job when officials discovered he was an al Qaeda sympathizer who incited prisoners against America. Jose Padilla, a terrorist accused of trying to build a "dirty bomb" to unleash in the United States, was exposed to radical Islam in the U.S. prison system. Richard Reid, the so-called "shoe bomber," was converted to fundamentalist Islam while serving time in a British prison.

On Tuesday, I chaired a hearing of the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism and Homeland Security that analyzed the procedures used by the military and prison system to recruit Muslims, particularly focusing on the cleric program. We also examined whether the instances of Wahhabi infiltration at key U.S. institutions may be part of a larger pattern. We heard from government witnesses on steps they are taking to confront these challenges and outside experts attesting to terrorists' efforts to exploit a free society to conduct the wide range of activities necessary for effective terror operations.

In response to our Senate inquiry, groups whose terror-related activities are being scrutinized by my subcommittee as well as the federal government have been quick to accuse investigators of Muslim bias. Falsely charging "bigotry," however, is simply not an acceptable response to serious allegations of criminal activity. Terrorists should not be allowed to disguise their hateful, violent activities under the banner of religious freedom. The fear of being falsely accused of prejudice, coupled with political correctness, may be part of the reason we got into the situation we're in right now.

America is a welcoming nation, and Americans are respectful of all faiths. It's time we confront the evil that has distorted and victimized the peace-loving, mainstream Muslim community. In the Senate, we intend to do just that.

Senator Jon Kyl is a Republican senator from Arizona.

SOURCE

37 posted on 03/12/2004 6:48:23 AM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Centurion2000
You didn't kick it though. The perceived insult is that you put your foot on it. Not sure these guys even know what pig's blood looks like. Leastwise they're not supposed to ~ or ham sandwiches either!

It's idolotry to look at a book that way. Mohammad would have been very upset at the idea. He'd call them "hipocrites" then killed them.

38 posted on 03/12/2004 6:52:11 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Centurion2000
"Wanna bet ? I have one with some pig's blood I put on it ... and the words FASLE DOCTRINE written in the pages ...." Umm...why?
39 posted on 03/12/2004 7:10:59 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: ejdrapes
Why is it camp x-ray turns all the jihadis into snivelling crybabies? Blowing yourself up is ok, but a cold cell, now thats hell. These guys always sound like wussies to me.
40 posted on 03/12/2004 9:03:29 AM PST by RolandBurnam
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To: ejdrapes
No one in their RIGHT mind would buy this. Sheer slop!
41 posted on 03/12/2004 9:05:31 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: ejdrapes
You would think that 2 years in Gitmo he could come up with more believable lies. Sheesh...
42 posted on 03/12/2004 9:08:56 AM PST by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: ejdrapes
"The website designer, a convert to Islam, had gone to Pakistan in October 2001, a few weeks after September 11, to study Muslim culture.

He accidentally strayed into Afghanistan - believing he was being driven to Turkey - and was arrested as a spy, perhaps because of his British passport. He was held in Kandahar, Afghanistan, and fell into US hands."


I'm sorry but can we please codify blatant stupidity as a crime? Do not go to Pakistan or Afghanistan within a month of the largest single atrocity every committed by Al Queda and expect to "study" anything other than how to duck and cover when the bombs start falling.

I got a good chuckle out of the part where the dog had more rights than he did. Cruel treatment to the dog to keep him penned next to slime like that.
43 posted on 03/12/2004 9:09:19 AM PST by brothers4thID
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To: ejdrapes
Its the Mirror. What did you expect...truth?!?!?!
44 posted on 03/12/2004 9:10:48 AM PST by FeliciaCat (Life is to short for ugly shoes.)
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To: muawiyah
How thin this whole story is shows through when he admits behaving prisoners got McDonalds and pizza?????????
45 posted on 03/12/2004 9:12:00 AM PST by JLS
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To: ejdrapes
"A diet of foul water and food up to 10 years out-of-date left inmates malnourished. "

Too good for them.
46 posted on 03/12/2004 9:13:35 AM PST by Monty22
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To: ejdrapes
Prisoners faced psychological torture and mind-games in attempts to make them confess to acts they had never committed. Even petty breaches of rules brought severe punishment.

Medical treatment was sparse and brutal and amputations of limbs were more drastic than required, claimed Jamal.

A diet of foul water and food up to 10 years out-of-date left inmates malnourished.

Sounds like he joined the Army.

47 posted on 03/12/2004 9:16:24 AM PST by lowbridge (I can think of a punishment worse than death for Saddam, but Hillary is already married.)
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To: ejdrapes
The men would return distraught. One said an American girl had smeared menstrual blood across his face in an act of humiliation.

YUMMY !!! ;-))
48 posted on 03/12/2004 9:20:25 AM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: ejdrapes
The fruit had been frozen and pounded with chemicals.

So they gave them "Fruit Rollups." I guess he wanted "Cosmic shapes" in electric yellow.

49 posted on 03/12/2004 9:20:43 AM PST by Alouette (Proudly overpopulating the planet since 1972)
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To: ejdrapes
And the newspaper accepts this all at face value, does not (apparently) even seek confirmation from other sources. And I keep reading letters-to-the-editor from liberals extolling the objectivity of the European press.
50 posted on 03/12/2004 9:29:04 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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