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You’re Messing With the Wrong Generation (Quintuple Barf Alert!)
Op Ed News ^ | 3/11/04 | Becky Burgwin

Posted on 03/12/2004 6:50:55 AM PST by qam1

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To: Howlin
William F. Buckley, Jr., from NRO:

"Meanwhile, George Pataki is running strong. Speaking without notes he delivered thunderous approval of his record, stressing such music for the ear of his audience as

Obviously this is a very old article,

hugely reduced welfare rolls, reduction in crime,

Well that is just like the Clintons who claimed the same thing, Taking credit for something he had nothing to do with.

95% of al crime in the state is in NYC so crime reduction was all Rudy.

Welfare rolls dropped throughout the country in the 1990's and New York was only 41st in % of welfare recipients dropped. Pataki has never personally cut welfare rolls in fact he has just added more and more programs or shifted them to other programs (Like these) and claimed a reduction in rolls. 

and a forthcoming billion-dollar tax reduction."

Forth coming!!! Yeah right, Besides the marshmellows Pataki has raised taxes on everything!!  

So I guess you're position would be that Buckley is lying and that Hillary would do those same things!

No he is reporting on what Pataki said not what he has done,  

I would like to see a link to this article you quote, You seem to have a way of taking things out of context.

Buckely is NO fan of Pataki.

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".....At least that summarizes the first minute or so of Buckley's remarks. After that, Buckley dropped the historiography in favor of an extended needling of the party's likely nominee for governor--incumbent George Pataki--next to whom he'd been seated for most of the evening. On and on Buckley droned, reaching back to Pataki's refusal, while an undergrad at Yale, to endorse a Buckley-sponsored resolution against civil rights at the university's political union, fast-forwarding to the governor's promiscuous spending habits, and culminating with National Review's recent observation that "the only abortion law George Pataki would ever oppose was one that threatened the rights of gays and lesbians."

261 posted on 03/12/2004 4:54:36 PM PST by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: qam1

262 posted on 03/12/2004 4:58:17 PM PST by Howlin (Charter Member of the Incredible Interlocking Institutional Power!!!!)
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To: Howlin
Yeah great dodge there

263 posted on 03/12/2004 5:28:44 PM PST by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: Don W
Your dates re: GenX/Boomer are a bit of a conundrum for someone like me who actually READ the book GenX.According to the author, GenX started in the late '50's, the peak was 1961.

The vast majority of when the Baby boomers ended and the Xers begin I've seen is 1965 (Lot of variation on when Xers end and Ys begin from 1975 to 1982). I am guessing 1965 was chosen because it would have been the first year the first (adult)baby boomers would have had children.

How can both my mother (born 1944) and myself (born 1961) be part of the same generation, hmmmm?

The Baby Boom started in 1946 so your mother is actually part of the Silent Generation

Those late Boomers you are refering to as Gen-Xers are often refered to as Generation Jones

264 posted on 03/12/2004 6:09:54 PM PST by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: qam1
It's unadulterated crap like this that makes me ashamed to be associated with the baby boomer generation. Collectively, we're a bunch of whiny, pansy a$$ed, spoiled brats who can't or won't grasp the reality around us. I'd much rather hang with the current crop - a damned sight better adjusted group of people, by in large, and many of whom are thoroughly fed up with boomers.
265 posted on 03/12/2004 6:22:33 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Spruce
I hate hippies.

They try to save the world but they just smoke pot and smell bad.

266 posted on 03/12/2004 6:25:12 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude
One of the kids I grew up with had a hippy mom. (His dad was an engineeer on F-14 Tomcat engines, go digure) After his mom saw him playing football with us in the front yard she made him wear a helmet. To this day I bet she has no clue how much punishment she dealt to her boy.
267 posted on 03/12/2004 6:37:32 PM PST by Spruce (revolvemonos)
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To: AmishDude
They try to save the world but they just smoke pot and smell bad.

Yep. Can't save the world throwing up the white flag of surrender while protesting wars and smokin' dope. Today's hippies are yesterday's hippies. Much of what goes on in the world is beyond the concept of the average long haired, maggot infested, tie-dyed, dope smokin' hippie.

268 posted on 03/14/2004 1:10:54 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: qam1
ms burgwin is just another pig...

273 posted on 03/17/2004 7:51:28 AM PST by martin gibson
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To: sf4dubya
I am glad someone acknowledged that mini-baby boom after 9/11. I said it was going to happen. When it did (my youngest was part of it), most people didn't notice there was a large number of pregnant women shortly after.
274 posted on 03/17/2004 7:54:42 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: sf4dubya
Thanks for the Ping, I was thinking of posting it separtely but it's a little old and I don't think we are allowed to post from that site.

Interesting read, Obviously being a super Liberal site they are skewing the Ys toward them but many college kids are naturally Liberal so I think they making too much of it. Actually from what I've seen the college kids today are less Liberal than those in the past

For example

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/974782/posts

I can't find the link but I also remember seeing somewhere that College kids support Bush in higher % than the rest of the population.

276 posted on 03/17/2004 4:03:48 PM PST by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: meadsjn
Ping to the link in post 271,

You might find the analysis interesting, Though remember it is from a very liberal site

277 posted on 03/17/2004 4:06:20 PM PST by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: qam1
I was a hippy once, and then I enlisted in the US Army and became a man.
278 posted on 03/17/2004 4:08:52 PM PST by jwalsh07 (We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
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To: sf4dubya; qam1
Thanks for that link to the Anna Greenberg article. Here is the kicker:
It is a generation that has thus far shown itself to be disdainful of politics, cynical about political parties and more likely than any other age group to support third-party candidates. At the same time, these young people are engaged in the life of the community and expect to improve it. To write them off politically is to risk someone else mobilizing a sleeping giant.

I've written before that our best hope for the future lies in the younger generations asserting their political power, ASAP.

The Boomers (my generation, shamefully), and the older Silents, of both parties cannot remove themselves from their self-centeredness and class/group identities enough to save our republic.

279 posted on 03/18/2004 9:53:38 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: sf4dubya
Even the Left has happy prospects for the Gen Y folks, from their own mouthes:

The Left and the Right definitely have prospects for the Gen-Y folks, but it is just a little premature for either to count their chickens. If they appear somewhat liberal in high-school and college, the same could have been said just about every generation at those ages. I'm hoping, as Greenberg fears, that the Gen-Y and Gen-X voters turn the country away from both of the boomer-elite parties, and start their own.

The oldest Gen-Y (b. 1984) just started work/college/voting in 2002. It will take most of them a few more years to notice that 1/3 of their paycheck never reaches them, and maybe longer until they realize that over half their income goes to pay taxes of some sort when all the hidden taxes, licenses, fees, etc. are taken into account.

280 posted on 03/18/2004 7:19:12 PM PST by meadsjn
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