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TWO WITNESSES COULD END KERRY PRESIDENTIAL RUN -- "The Phoenix Project"
various sources | 3-12-04 | dfu

Posted on 03/12/2004 10:32:07 AM PST by doug from upland

THOMAS LIPSCOMB STORY

Reporter Thomas Lipscomb wrote the story which is linked above in the NY SUN. It has the potential to end the Kerry presdential run.

I had a great conversation with Lipscomb a short while ago. This story was too hot for some of the majors. But Lipscomb assured me it is well-sourced and is dead on.

Two witnesses have placed John Kerry at a Kansas City meeting of the hierarchy of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War in November of 1971. At that meeting, they actually took a vote about assassinating United States senators. It was called "The Phoenix Project" and was the brainchild of Scott Camil. Kerry spokesman David Wade has denied Kerry was at the meeting.

The two witnesses who place Kerry at the meeting are Terry Du-Bose and Randy Barnes. What is very interesting is that Barnes is a big Kerry supporter and the head of Missouri Vets for Kerry. As a supporter, Barnes would certainly not make up a story that would hurt his candidate. He told Lipscomb of Kerry's attendance at the meeting.

Think of the implications. If the mainsteam media and major news networks do their homework, they may discover that a man who wants to be president was at a meeting discussing the possiblity of assassinating United States senators. That is a conspiracy. Instead of the White House, does John Forbes Kerry belong in the Big House?

Get on the phone to newsrooms and shame them into covering this story. A major mainsteam journalist returned by email in about a half hour after I sent him info. He finds it "interesting." Let's see if pursues it. He is notable enough, that if he does the story, all hell will break loose in the presidential campaign.

Note: Lipscomb is not a right-wing ideologue. He did a recent story defending Kerry over his medals. He also recently did a story in which he went after George Bush's National Guard service. He told me that he expected to find a drunken rich kid with coke up his nose. Instead, he discovered that Bush actually did more than make up the meetings he had missed and he honorably fulfilled his duty. And Terry McAuliffe knows it.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1971; 2004; barnes; darkplot; dubose; kansascity; kerry; phoenixproject; randybarnes; scottcamil; senators; thomaslipscomb; traitor; vvaw
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1 posted on 03/12/2004 10:32:08 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: jmstein7; Hon
Ping.
2 posted on 03/12/2004 10:32:34 AM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
WOW! MEGA BUMP

John Kerry

3 posted on 03/12/2004 10:33:55 AM PST by Ragirl (Vote in '04 ! Those who sit on their hands end up with poop on them.)
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To: doug from upland
If Kerry was there, and spoke against the plan, and resigned from the organization--all he has to do is say so.

Is he going to get caught in a lie when the truth would suffice?

4 posted on 03/12/2004 10:34:12 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: doug from upland
Bump to you Doug!
5 posted on 03/12/2004 10:34:46 AM PST by BobFromNJ
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To: doug from upland
BUMP!!!!
6 posted on 03/12/2004 10:35:05 AM PST by MasonGal
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To: doug from upland
Depends on how he voted at the meeting, I suppose.
7 posted on 03/12/2004 10:35:53 AM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: doug from upland
This is going nowhere.

Whether he was at the meeting or not, the press will portray it as him resigning from the group out of indignation that they would even discuss such a dastardly plan.

He'll come off looking better in the end. Bank on it.
8 posted on 03/12/2004 10:36:13 AM PST by Cousin Eddie
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To: doug from upland
How did Frankenstein vote?
9 posted on 03/12/2004 10:36:13 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: doug from upland
I don't want anyone else but Kerry to run against Bush.
10 posted on 03/12/2004 10:36:23 AM PST by TBall
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To: All

11 posted on 03/12/2004 10:37:01 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: doug from upland
Hillary has the tape.

She will leak it on October 5.

12 posted on 03/12/2004 10:37:33 AM PST by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: doug from upland
"I committed atrocities. I am a war criminal. I conspired to assassinate US Senators. I did everything I could to weaken US intelligence. I did everything I could to weaken our military power. If elected President, I promise to back away from the War on Terror. I promise also to raise your taxes -- through the roof! I'd like your vote ..."
13 posted on 03/12/2004 10:37:38 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Diversity isn't about diversity)
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To: xm177e2
According to the witness, he voted against the plan and then resigned, orally. There is no evidence in writing of a resignation.

Yes, he voted "no." But if he attended that meeting, his very attendance was part of a conspiracy. If he wanted nothing to do with it, he had a duty to inform authorities about a potential plot to kill senators.

14 posted on 03/12/2004 10:37:43 AM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; Victoria Delsoul; PhilDragoo
ping
15 posted on 03/12/2004 10:37:58 AM PST by Professional Engineer (California refugee: Will FReep for food.)
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To: doug from upland
Nice work, Doug. Perhaps we'll hear you discuss this inmore detail with Hugh Hewitt later today.
16 posted on 03/12/2004 10:38:31 AM PST by glennaro
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To: xm177e2
If he was there, and NEVER spoke about the plan, isn't he is a co-conspirator..regardless of his position?

If you or I had done the same in 1971, we would still be in the pen. We'll, not me anyways, I was in diapers.
17 posted on 03/12/2004 10:39:05 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: doug from upland
he had a duty to inform authorities about a potential plot to kill senators.

As he had a duty to name names when he told the US Senate that he had witnessed war crimes in Vietnam.

18 posted on 03/12/2004 10:40:01 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Diversity isn't about diversity)
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To: TBall
I want Kerry to get the nomination. I do not want the " Wicked Witch" to be brought out and dusted off at the Convention. Leave Kerry alone. Plenty of time to plaster him after the nomination..
19 posted on 03/12/2004 10:40:04 AM PST by BooBoo1000
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To: glennaro
I hope Hugh returns my email and has him on.
20 posted on 03/12/2004 10:40:09 AM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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