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Posted on 03/12/2004 10:32:07 AM PST by doug from upland

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To: doug from upland
"Yes, he voted "no." But if he attended that meeting, his very attendance was part of a conspiracy. If he wanted nothing to do with it, he had a duty to inform authorities about a potential plot to kill senators."

You are quite correct on this point. This should be pursued.
41 posted on 03/12/2004 10:50:04 AM PST by miele man
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To: BooBoo1000
I do not want the " Wicked Witch" to be brought out and dusted off at the Convention

That is her plan though.

She knows better than to run in 2008 against incumbent VP Rice.
This year is her only chance.

42 posted on 03/12/2004 10:50:44 AM PST by ASA Vet ("Anyone who signed up after 11/28/97 is a newbie")
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To: doug from upland
I wanna know the entire list of senators. We have Tower and Helms. Who were the rest???????????????
43 posted on 03/12/2004 10:51:27 AM PST by petitfour
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To: miele man
This one won't go.
44 posted on 03/12/2004 10:51:50 AM PST by cajungirl (John Kerry has no botox and I have a bridge to sell you!)
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To: doug from upland
I certaintly find it easy to believe he was there, and I do believe he has engaged in an elaborate attempt to hide this fact. What i am not so certain about is whether a bunch of guys blowing off steam, then deciding to do nothing meets the standard for a conspiracy.

I certainly think that failure to report the instigator should disqualify Kerry for the presidency, and the cover-up just adds to the offence. Most interesting is the date alleged for the written resignation. A couple days before the meeting? That's too cute. Kerry obviously knew about the plan and wanted to make sure he could deny knowing about it.
45 posted on 03/12/2004 10:51:55 AM PST by js1138
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To: Cboldt; BooBoo1000
Don't for a minute think that the DEM candidate for president can't change after the convention. There are NO absolute rules.

Yes, that is known as "The Lousenberg Exception", the dims candidate can be replaced at any time until election day if his poll numbers are bad enough. :(

46 posted on 03/12/2004 10:52:14 AM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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To: Jim Noble; BooBoo1000
Hillary has the tape.

Make room at the covention for Hillary...
47 posted on 03/12/2004 10:53:07 AM PST by MaryFromMichigan (Michigan ROCKS! A petoskey stone is a good example)
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To: McGruff
we must hold our fire until Sen. Heinz is technically nominated ...

I agree with holding withering fire right now, because the election is 6 months from now, and because Kerry is shooting himself in the foot pretty well. But, I don't think the end of the DEM convention (which I assume is the event you consider as marking "technically nominated") necessarily marks the winner as the person who GWB will run against.

The DEM party holds to no rules, and will switch Kerry out in a heartbeat once it is prevailing belief (stoked by media propaganda) that Kerry cannot win.

See Toricelli/Lautenberg. Expand it to the presidential level. Either they get away with it, or there will be, ummmm, well, errrr, lots of angry Democrats. Use your imagination.

48 posted on 03/12/2004 10:53:45 AM PST by Cboldt
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I have a question for any legal types out there; who has standing under Amendment XIV to sue to prevent Kerry from assuming office under the United States? Assuming there is at least a defensible case he gave aid and comfort to the enemy, could I, as a citizen, bring suit? If not, who could?
49 posted on 03/12/2004 10:54:33 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: doug from upland
"The two witnesses who place Kerry at the meeting are Terry Du-Bose and Randy Barnes"

What's going to be the new name for Arkancide?
50 posted on 03/12/2004 10:58:17 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: cajungirl
"This one won't go."

Why? It may not effect his base support, but I think middle-America will find something disgusting about a man who was even a part of a group that would vote to assassinate American politicians. This will also lend more credence to the argument that the VVAW was more than just a dissenting organization...and was actively participating in undermining American security. At the very least, it is one more brick in the wall.

51 posted on 03/12/2004 11:00:18 AM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only man who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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To: doug from upland
Kerry was involved in a conspiracy to kill Senators
What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
52 posted on 03/12/2004 11:00:57 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: ClearCase_guy
"I committed atrocities. I am a war criminal. I conspired to assassinate US Senators. I did everything I could to weaken US intelligence. I did everything I could to weaken our military power. If elected President, I promise to back away from the War on Terror. I promise also to raise your taxes -- through the roof! I'd like your vote ..."

Don't forget:

J. F'n Kerry: "Also, I'm a democrat!"

45% of the sheeple: "You got my vote!"

53 posted on 03/12/2004 11:03:46 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: Mrs Zip; BOBWADE
54 posted on 03/12/2004 11:03:59 AM PST by zip
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To: Cboldt
Thank you I didn't know that. I thought after a candidate secures the National Nomination, it was all over. I didn't realize they could change Candidates after the Convention.
55 posted on 03/12/2004 11:05:29 AM PST by BooBoo1000
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To: cwb
If Kerry was there, he had an obligation to inform the authorities that a potential crime may take place.

Your post raises an interesting possibility. Suppose, just suppose, that he did inform the authorities.

Suppose, in fact that was his job.

Bear with me, now.

Look at his background:

--Skull and Bones at Yale (primary recruiting ground for the intelligence community)

--A ridiculously brief, absurdly medaled, stint in Vietnam. It looks like the "fix was in" to get him all those medals.

--Then he returns home as a major player in the Vietnam Veterans against the war. He lies about atrocities, throws away phony medals. (Establishing his "bona fides" with the anti-war movement?)

--Remember that at that time both LBJ and Nixon were convinced that foreigners were funding the leftist groups and recruited FBI agents to infiltrate them. Why not use ex-military men to infiltrate the VVAW?

Perhaps that is Kerry's dirty little secret--that would freak out the leftists who support him big time.

If true--and if Hillary knows about it--the man will never make it past the convention.

Just a hypothesis--about a very strange man with a very strange history.
56 posted on 03/12/2004 11:09:49 AM PST by cgbg (traitor=benedict arnold=quisling=kerry?)
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To: doug from upland
If the mainsteam media and major news networks do their homework

Well, I'm not going to hold my breath for that one, Doug ;-)

Good stuff none-the-less.

57 posted on 03/12/2004 11:12:14 AM PST by Prodigal Son (Liberal ideas are deadlier than second hand smoke.)
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To: Professional Engineer
We can hope but you know the Press will either suppress it or the witnesses will be totally discredited.
58 posted on 03/12/2004 11:12:51 AM PST by SAMWolf (John Kerry is not indecisive and wishy-washy. He consistantly gives aid and comfort to our enemies.)
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To: Rebelbase
The new name for Arkancide . . . Massextinction
59 posted on 03/12/2004 11:12:56 AM PST by NorseWood
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To: All
Four years ago I was working on a novel that sadly went unfinished. The scenario may be playing out right before our eyes.

Hillary Clinton is preparing to take a coronation at the convention after Kerry falls. She has had to spend no money. There are no soundbites from other RAT candidates attacking her. She would only have to run a very short campaign. It is her dream scenario.

60 posted on 03/12/2004 11:12:58 AM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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