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Mass graves testify to Saddam's atrocities
UPI ^ | 3-12-04 | JOHN POWERSv

Posted on 03/12/2004 5:32:04 PM PST by Indy Pendance

WASHINGTON, March 12 (UPI) -- Allied forces driving toward Berlin at the end of World War II discovered the Nazi death camps that contained the corpses and barely living remains of Jews and other enemies of national socialism. When the scale of brutality and murder carefully was laid bare, filmed and documented, a deeply shocked world promised, "Never again!"

But within only a few years the Chinese communists killed millions of "small landlords." In the 1970s, Pol Pot succeeded in killing two-thirds of the Cambodian population. Countless dead filled the countryside of the former Yugoslavia, and in 1994 militant Hutus killed as many as a million Tutsis and Hutu moderates within only three months, supposedly protected by the French government -- which, in fact, withdrew its troops -- and ignored by the United States and the United Nations.

Now another pandemic of mass killings is being documented, recorded and widely ignored. This time the perpetrator is Saddam Hussein, whose Baathist Party was said to be based on that of the Nazis, and accounts of its killing efficiency continue to flow to the Coalition Provisional Authority. The U.S. Agency for International Development reports that since Saddam was ousted, 270 sites of mass graves have been reported. These contain an unknown number of Iraqis, Iranian prisoners of war, Iraqi Kurds and Kuwaiti prisoners among the long list of those Saddam tortured and killed. British Prime Minister Tony Blair puts the remains in mass graves at 400,000 so far.

When representatives from USAID, the U.S. Army and a host of human-rights organizations are able fully to begin investigations in force, the nature of the crimes against the Iraqi people will be seen in full. It is a massive undertaking.

Melissa Connor, an archaeological consultant to Physicians for Human Rights, which lends its support and expertise to investigations of crimes against humanity, has worked as a forensic archaeologist in the mass-graves investigations in Bosnia and Rwanda. Connor explains what investigators must do to uncover the bodies of Saddam's victims. She says that such graves are found by analyzing satellite and aerial photos that show disturbed ground or by interviewing witnesses to the killings. USAID indicated in its report on mass graves in Iraq that in some cases executioners have come forward to help find the killing grounds. Sometimes, Connor adds, the bodies are not fully buried and so quite easily found.

Once a mass grave is identified, Connor stresses, there is prework that must be accomplished before shovel is put to ground. A decision must be made as to the goal of the exhumation. Will it be uncovered to return the remains of loved ones to families? Or for advocacy reasons or to help prosecute the guilty? According to USAID, all of these are goals in Iraq.

Once such questions are answered, Connor says, the size of the grave must be determined. She says investigators do this by using imaging technologies or by digging a trench to determine the depth and configuration of the burial. According to the USAID report, "Some graves hold a few dozen bodies -- their arms lashed together and the bullet holes in the backs of skulls testimony to their execution. Other graves go on for hundreds of meters, densely packed with thousands of bodies."

Connor points out that everything must be documented in detail for the purposes of evidence, especially if a war-crimes indictment is anticipated. If the remains are skeletal, Connor says, the examination will be anthropological in nature, but if they are "fleshed" there might be an autopsy. During this stage of investigation the cause of death is found. Connor comments that when the victim has been killed with a high-caliber machine gun it is quite obvious because bones are completely shattered. Spraying civilians with machine-gun fire was a method used by Saddam's forces -- but more on that later.

Once all the evidence is collected, families can begin to identify remains and take their loved ones home for proper burial, according to their custom, says Connor. Identification occurs much the same way as the finding of the graves. Eyewitness accounts of who was where and when are helpful, says Connor. Clothing, artifacts such as watches or cigarettes, and sometimes even identification cards also help to connect the disappeared with their families. Connor comments that in these situations families of the dead are "sharing with you one of the defining moments in their lives." And the job is enormous. According to Connor, "In Iraq it's going to be an overwhelming process" because the remains in these mass graves are not only those of Iraqis but also of Iranians and Kuwaitis.

William Haglund, a forensic anthropologist and director of the international forensic program for PHR, is not optimistic about families finding their loved ones. He has toured Iraq to assess the capacity for handling investigation of the mass graves. He says many of the bodies are so decomposed that there are no fingerprints and warns that there are few dental records in Iraq. This makes DNA analysis the best way to identify the bodies, but Iraq has no capacity to do such work, according to Haglund. He sees a long road to finding closure.

"The scope of the problem is immense. ... (There are) an estimated 300,000 missing people," says Haglund. "Easily, this is a 50-year job."

In addition to the challenges of the investigation, USAID says in its report, many of Saddam's supporters and those who carried out the killings have threatened the organizations attempting to investigate. But despite the threats and dangers, USAID insists, whenever a mass grave is discovered a team of 20 to 30 experts will be housed on-site for up to six weeks for a thorough inquiry.

The investigators will expose the true nature of what these disappeared Iraqis experienced in their last days. For instance, many of those killed in the north of Iraq in 1988 were subjected to nerve and mustard gas. Haglund investigated the aftermath of the gassings and explains the way the Iraqi Kurds died. Once the gas is ingested there is "difficulty breathing, burns on the skin ... an agonizing way to die," he says.

Margaret Samuels, a social worker by training and clinical coordinator at the Yale University School of Medicine Child Study Center, helped as a psychosocial worker in Bosnia, Kosovo and now, Iraq, counseling families of the victims of mass murder. To help families who still hold out hope that their loved ones are alive, Samuels attempts to prepare them for the horror when they visit the graves or when identifying a loved one. She tries to convey that they will be looking at bones with remnants of clothing. If fleshed, the bodies will have the stench of death and sometimes be bloated or mutilated. She says she also attempts to keep the children of these families occupied so they are not exposed to the gruesome display.

In her line of work, Samuels hears the firsthand accounts of families still caught in the pain of not knowing what happened to their loved ones. She describes seeing a list of prisoners posted on the walls of one of Saddam's prisons, in front of which throngs of Iraqis looked for the names of the missing. She also met with former prisoners who told her of their time in Saddam's prisons. One man in particular broke down in tears as he described the emotional and physical torture he survived. Samuels says many of the reports of torture she heard involved beatings, electrocutions and such mutilation as cutting off hands or surgically removing the ears of army deserters.

There was no end to the gruesome creativity of Saddam's secret police. Saddam's methods included using hammers to break bones, ripping out fingernails, amputating limbs with a chain saw, crucifixion, throwing live victims in acid baths and ovens, cutting loose wild dogs to attack victims, raping women in the presence of their children and husbands, cutting off a penis or a breast, and stripping children naked and forcing their parents to watch as they were stung by hornets and scorpions. The graves contain evidence of these and other sadistic crimes.

Some of Saddam's victims escaped to tell their tales on the day his statue was torn down in Baghdad. The USAID report contains three survivor accounts from mass executions outside Mahawil in the south of Iraq. The survivors all describe being taken into custody without a reason being given. They describe seeing women and children also in custody, all of them haphazardly blindfolded.

Once they were herded into holding areas they could see a pile of tires set on fire and were ordered to run past these. Some of the women, children and elderly men were tripped or fell near the fire and were unceremoniously beaten to death with pipes or thrown into the blazing tires to burn alive. All of the survivors who escaped their would-be executioners had been shot and partially buried, crawling away to their homes under cover of dark and living thereafter in hiding.

The experience can be overwhelming for both families of victims and investigators of these crimes, Samuels says. It is "almost impossible to move on until some of these things are processed," she says, and almost the whole of Iraq is being affected by the ongoing uncovering of Saddam's atrocities.

Jim Prince is president of the Democracy Council, which promotes democratic institutions in the developing world, and has worked in Iraq. He tells of his experiences at the mass graves of Iraq, describing the scenes of chaos and pain as families uncovered the dead. "It was horrible," Prince says. "Right after the uprising in northern Iraq a lot of relatives who heard about the mass graves ... would go (to the sites) and start digging with their hands and become a mess. You'd have bones and clothing everywhere and people screaming." Prince continued, "The first time I went it was very windy and we were getting people's hair in our mouths and eyes. In the open fields, they were just pawing at the earth to try and match up bones and pictures. ... It's not something that leaves you quickly."

Prince also visited the torture chambers with victims, and remembers: "To me it became intensely personal. I was looking at somebody that experienced this." He says it changed his mind about the war in Iraq. Prior to seeing Saddam's legacy of brutality firsthand, he thought a peaceful resolution to the Iraq crisis had been possible, but after seeing the evidence he had a change of heart. He describes why:

"You come away from these fields and torture chambers -- the senselessness of it -- having seen pure evil and knowing that to do nothing in the face of such evil is to perpetuate it. It's not a question of weapons of mass destruction, it's a question of evil, and if you let it continue, you have to take responsibility for what's happening. You can't just turn a blind eye."

(John Powers is a writer for Insight magazine.)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: atrocities; balkans; iraq; massgraves; saddam

1 posted on 03/12/2004 5:32:04 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
"You come away from these fields and torture chambers -- the senselessness of it -- having seen pure evil and knowing that to do nothing in the face of such evil is to perpetuate it. It's not a question of weapons of mass destruction, it's a question of evil, and if you let it continue, you have to take responsibility for what's happening. You can't just turn a blind eye."

Sadly enought, the far left in this day and age choses to do just that.

2 posted on 03/12/2004 5:34:58 PM PST by dirtboy (Howard, we hardly knew ye. Not that we're complaining, mind you...)
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To: Indy Pendance
If Kerry had his way the killing fields would still be going on in Iraq.
3 posted on 03/12/2004 5:36:28 PM PST by mware
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To: Indy Pendance
"British Prime Minister Tony Blair puts the remains in mass graves at 400,000 so far"

But isn't it all about the WMDs according to Sean Penn, Michael Moore and Kash & Kerry??????? /sarcasm

4 posted on 03/12/2004 5:38:54 PM PST by BossLady
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To: Indy Pendance
But if we don't find any weapons of mass destruction, who cares, right?
5 posted on 03/12/2004 5:39:30 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Death before dishonor, open bar after 6:00)
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To: Indy Pendance
Any photos?
6 posted on 03/12/2004 5:42:35 PM PST by autopsy
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To: Indy Pendance
Guess Blix missed those huge holes in the ground where many humans were buried. He was just looking for the mobile labs in the presidential parking lots, did not even think of looking underground. Or maybe he found them, but since that was not his mission, he did not say anything. I guess the UN is not a humanitarian watchdog after all.
7 posted on 03/12/2004 5:43:54 PM PST by Ironfocus
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To: dirtboy
This is one of the biggest disgraces of this war: The media is intentionally ignoring the atrocities in Iraq so not to give Bush and Blair any credit for the removal of Saddam.
8 posted on 03/12/2004 5:56:29 PM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only man who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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To: mware
What's amazing is that we went to war in Yugoslavia because of mass-graves. So important was it, that the media participated in the selling of this war to the American people based on that criteria. Yet, unlike Kosovo were the graves weren't as massive as once claimed, the media ignores the massive graves being unearthed on a daily basis in Iraq. Nope...no media bias, there.
9 posted on 03/12/2004 6:02:35 PM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only man who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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To: cwb
There were no mass graves in Kosovo because we stopped the genocide planned by the Serbs before they could carry it out. The mass graves you're looking for are to be found in Bosnia. I saw them myself; I helped create a cemetery for the murdered at Srebrenica during a long tour with the US government in northern Bosnia.

Please do your homework before posting on that of which you have no understanding.
10 posted on 03/12/2004 6:26:05 PM PST by Ronly Bonly Jones (The more things change...)
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
Bullsh*t! The Clinton administration made direct claims that 100,000 mass graves were to be found in "Kosovo." They also used the Racak Massacre to bolster this story. Do your own homework.
11 posted on 03/12/2004 6:40:35 PM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only man who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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To: cwb
Bullsh*t! The Clinton administration made direct claims that 100,000 mass graves were to be found in "Kosovo." >>>

No they didn't. They made direct claims that 100,000 out of 500,000 were MISSING (because they'd fled their homes to avoid the war). That was an accurate statement.

They also used the Racak Massacre to bolster this story. Do your own homework.>>

I did. For several years. The stench of the thousands of Serb-murdered bodies from Srebrenica I witnessed is still in my nostrils.
12 posted on 03/12/2004 6:45:34 PM PST by Ronly Bonly Jones (The more things change...)
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To: dirtboy
Sadly enought, the far left in this day and age choses to do just that.

The American Left has sadly discarded their one and only redeeming value -- concern for human rights. They are only about power and control now.

13 posted on 03/12/2004 6:46:59 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Any day you wake up is a good day.)
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To: cwb
Democrat-led wars (which invariably ARE NOT about vital US interests) are OK with the media. Republican-led wars (which invariably ARE about vital US interests) are never OK with the media. This is how it has been for 50 years.
14 posted on 03/12/2004 6:50:54 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Any day you wake up is a good day.)
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
No they didn't. I posted a direct quote from William Cohen (here) several months ago in an interview were he specifically mentions the genocide of 100,000 ethnic Albanians. Look it up. This "missing" crap is being used to spin and confuse those who heard didn't hear the quotes.

This war (in Kosovo) was hyped in a more deceitful way than Iraq ever was. Even the international forensice team that did the Racak investigation found that the "claimed" execution style slayings were inconsistent with what was being sold to the US by the Albanian terrorists.
15 posted on 03/12/2004 6:58:43 PM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only man who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
"I did. For several years. The stench of the thousands of Serb-murdered bodies from Srebrenica I witnessed is still in my nostrils."

By the way...how did your sensitive nostrils distinguish between the bodies of Serb-murdered and murdered Serbs? I take it you do know that these atrocities have occured from both sides for over 500 years now? Or did you only start smelling in the last few years.
16 posted on 03/12/2004 7:04:03 PM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only man who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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To: cwb
I respect your humanitarian efforts. However, my memories of the lead up to our intervention in Bosnia does include Secretary Cohen mentioning hundreds of thousands. A google search substantiates this


http://www.balkanpeace.org/monitor/mgen24.html.......
On 16 May, the US defence secretary William Cohen said that Yugoslav army forces had killed up to 100,000 Albanian men of military age. This number was declared missing, the refugees having all claimed that their menfolk had been separated from them as they fled Kosovo. Tony Blair himself implied that the numbers might be even higher when he wrote in the Times on 5 June, 'We must be ready for what we know will be clear evidence of ... as yet unknown numbers of people missing, tortured and dead.' On 17 June, the then minister of state in the Foreign Office, Geoff Hoon, announced that some 10,000 people had been killed in more than 100 massacres but added, 'The final toll may be much worse.'

17 posted on 03/12/2004 7:47:53 PM PST by gogipper (freedom!)
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To: cwb
You require microscopic analysis if the murderers were Serbs. If the murdered were Serbs you accept your sisters' father's cousins' girlfriends' aunt's motherinlaw's babysitter's rumor.

I saw what I saw. I was there in Tuzla and I saw the murdered.

PS. The doctors doing the autopsies, all Brits btw, had no doubts that the dead were (1) Bosnian Muslims (2) murdered by Serbs (3) during the war and (4) killed in an act of genocide. The trial court at the Hague is pretty certain, too. Funny, but the only people who ever express doubts in the veracity of what I saw are either Serb nazis or Serb nazi sympathizers.
18 posted on 03/12/2004 7:58:45 PM PST by Ronly Bonly Jones (The more things change...)
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To: gogipper
The number of the dead in the Bosnian conflict is approximately 200,000, +- 10%.

The number of the Albanian dead in the Albanian conflict are about 2000, maybe.

Difference: the Kosovo conflict lasted less than a month. The Bosnian war lasted approximately three years. Furthermore, population of Bosnia at the start of the war was 4.4 million; that of Kosovo, about 600,000. Different war, different circumstances.

PS. Balkanpeace is a Serb propaganda front, and besides, your link doesn't work.
19 posted on 03/12/2004 8:01:50 PM PST by Ronly Bonly Jones (The more things change...)
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To: Indy Pendance
bumping...
20 posted on 03/12/2004 8:16:42 PM PST by redhead (You can’t "out mother" your mother. Don’t even try.)
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To: gogipper
Actually the quote you site is from the Kosovo war (not the Bosnian conflict) specifically, which is what I am saying.

It was on April 19, in the midst of NATO air strikes against Serbia, that the State Department reported that 100,000 Kosovar Albanian men were missing and feared to be victims of Serbian genocide.

"It is chilling to think where the 100,000 men are," said State Department spokesman James P. Rubin...husband of the war whore/propagandist, Christiane Amanpour.

And on May 16, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen repeated that figure. "We've now seen about 100,000 military-aged men missing," Mr. Cohen told CBS. "They may have been
murdered." This figure was furthered used by Britain and others as they fostered the idea that mass-graves litered the Kosovo landscape.

Yet, even before this claim of 100,000 Albanians that "may have been murdered," we had another Clinton official (Jamie Shea) say that 100,000 Alnanian babies had also been born in internment camps. We can argue semantics all we want, but this administration used the genocide card in "Kosovo" to justify this war. And 'till this day, we have yet to find these mass-graves that so many people spoke of.

The Racak Massacre...which was a big issue in bringing the US into this war, has been discredited, also. Just punch in "Kosovo and 100,000 mass graves" and you'll get an eyeful of quotes and facts.
21 posted on 03/12/2004 8:18:37 PM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only man who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
"Funny, but the only people who ever express doubts in the veracity of what I saw are either Serb nazis or Serb nazi sympathizers."

No...this is what's funny. If you knew your history you'd know that it was Albania that was annexed and agreed to allie itself with Nazi Germany as these folks committed the
2nd greatest genocide of WWII outside of the Holocaust. These were your Nazis...not the Serbs. These Muslims shared a common enemy with Hitler; the Jews. It was the Serbs who faught with the USA during WWII.

It was also the KLA who was listed on the US State Department's terrorist list as late as 1995...and yet we sided with them. And now, we have stories coming out of Kosovo about the growing Islamic threat that is again, attacking Serbs...as they did both during WWII and after, as they continued to drive them off their land.
22 posted on 03/12/2004 8:29:52 PM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only man who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
"Difference: the Kosovo conflict lasted less than a month."

Dude...you can't even get the duration of this conflict correct. The bombing campaign, alone, lasted 78-days. And even when it was over, Slobo still retained power for almost a year after, until he was voted out.
23 posted on 03/12/2004 8:35:31 PM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only man who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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To: dirtboy
The far left has always chosen to do "just that" and probably always will.
24 posted on 03/12/2004 9:20:09 PM PST by RightWingAtheist
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To: Indy Pendance
bump
25 posted on 03/12/2004 11:54:30 PM PST by VOA
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