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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread 5
CNN ^ | March 12, 2004

Posted on 03/12/2004 8:23:06 PM PST by thecabal

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- This week's deadly train bombings in Spain will not lead to a rise in the U.S. color-coded terror threat alert system, a Department of Homeland Security spokesman said Friday.

"Based on the current intelligence, we have no specific indicators that terrorist groups are considering such an attack in the U.S. in the near term," said department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 4515sb; alqaida; homelandsecurity; terrorism; threatmatrix
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To: All
could "sb" mean suicide bomb?
201 posted on 03/13/2004 3:01:49 PM PST by knak
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To: mfccinsd; All
CNN:

-- Spanish interior minister: Police investigating the Madrid train bombings arrest three Moroccans and two Indian nationals.

MADRID, Spain (AP) Interior minister says autopsies show no evidence of suicide bombers in Madrid terror attacks.

202 posted on 03/13/2004 3:02:49 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: thecabal; MamaDearest; TexKat; Donna Lee Nardo; Cindy; All
Americans in gun sights of Mexican army
Posted: March 13, 2004

You'd think frequent gun battles along the U.S.-Mexico border between federal agents and citizen border-monitoring groups on this side, and drug and people smugglers on the other side, would make the national headlines.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37563
203 posted on 03/13/2004 3:04:29 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: thecabal
I still think the biggest threat is the 'silent' killer of our food/water supply
204 posted on 03/13/2004 3:05:38 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: null and void
Please upload me about a dozen of thes, k?
205 posted on 03/13/2004 3:06:18 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: Calpernia
And a full-time job -g-
206 posted on 03/13/2004 3:06:59 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: Calpernia; thecabal
If there are a few threads posted ?'s:

1. Is this the 'official' thread 5 yes?

2. Were the other's deleted so as not to cornfuse folks?
207 posted on 03/13/2004 3:11:31 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: Domestic Church
Drafts are a funny topic.

Believe it or not, you can be drafted up to age 45 for a specialized draft of professionals with needed skills in the US military. But the US Military isnt the only branch that can draft you into military service.


Some states can also draft you into the authorized state militia in case of emergency, and make you available for duty for a period of up to 2 months in either the State Defense Force ( formed under 32USC109) or the state unorganized militia or state naval militia.

Ifa super bad catastrophic disaster were to occur, I wonder how many professionals would be on tap at both levels?
208 posted on 03/13/2004 3:13:32 PM PST by judicial meanz (If liberals are not totalitarian in nature, why do they need deception to get their points across?)
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To: rickylc; Calpernia; All
Russian officials fear low turnout
Saturday, March 13, 2004 Posted: 9:22 AM EST (1422 GMT)

Opponents say Putin has failed to combat poverty and corruption.

MOSCOW, Russia (Reuters) -- Russia's top electoral official is trying to instill enthusiasm into apathetic voters amid concern a low turnout will hinder President Vladimir Putin's otherwise certain re-election this weekend.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/03/13/russia.election.reut/index.html
209 posted on 03/13/2004 3:13:55 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: StillProud2BeFree
Ok. I haven't seen an original source link disclosed yet for the letter. It may be that the graphic doc is the original scanned, who knows. Probably in the next few days some jihadi will reveal another Arabic text link. But IH does have what is supposed to be the original Arabic writing of the letter though; there is no link included because most links of this nature are not disclosed by the posters.
210 posted on 03/13/2004 3:14:22 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Calpernia; StillProud2BeFree; All
GEOSTRATEGY-DIRECT INTELLIGENCE BRIEF
CIA's weak Arabic led to embarrassment
Letter to bin Laden judged sign of desperation, but actually sarcasm

Posted: March 13, 2004

The Bush administration wants us to think Abu Mussib Al Zarqawi is terrified of the United States and that his suicide strikes against Shi'ites constitute the last gasp of a desperate terrorist.

The administration's proof is a 17-page letter purportedly written by Zarqawi to al-Qaida's Osama bin Laden. In this, Zarqawi warns of U.S. plans to introduce elections and consolidate democratic rule in post-Saddam Iraq.

But U.S. intelligence sources now say that Zarqawi's letter has been misinterpreted, reports Geostrategy-Direct, the global intelligence news service.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37556
211 posted on 03/13/2004 3:16:53 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: JustPiper
"...eyewitnesses who said they've seen Mexican military and paramilitary police assisting Mexican nationals with crossing illegally into the U.S. And witnesses have described how some Mexican army and federal police units actually provide armed cover for smugglers packing drugs into our country..."

Unfreakin' believable. More proof via eyewitness account in Jon's book.

212 posted on 03/13/2004 3:18:28 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Revel
We need to show this type of support here!
213 posted on 03/13/2004 3:18:28 PM PST by JustPiper
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Breaking News Alert
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) Iran imposes indefinite freeze on international inspections of its nuclear facilities in reaction to IAEA resolution, Iranian nuclear chief says.
214 posted on 03/13/2004 3:18:57 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: FairOpinion
This is the type of thing that terrorizes me, good find as always Fair!
215 posted on 03/13/2004 3:20:47 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: JustPiper; Cindy; swarthyguy; Calpernia; knak; TexKat
Early links between ETA and Muslim terrorists...and the Soviets:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1097121/posts
216 posted on 03/13/2004 3:21:25 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: StillProud2BeFree
SP2BF here is the pdf archive from Alquds Alarabi for 3/11/04. I do not know if the letter is contained in it or not since I cannot read arabic. I hope so.

Index of /archives/pdf/2004/03Mar/11MarThu

217 posted on 03/13/2004 3:22:45 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: appalachian_dweller; All; Calpernia
If you will do a simple google search for:

90%

you will see that it is computers and Fortran

google for:

10%

more electronics, such as hand helds, UN and other countries.

Welcome back, good survival info.
218 posted on 03/13/2004 3:23:55 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Do a google.com search for: blown tires on airplanes also: 1425 blown tires on airplanes)
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To: rickylc; All
Saturday, March 13, 2004

Missile incident rattles Canada
'Nuclear fallout knows no border,' lawmaker says

By MIKE BARBER
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

It might not have been a "broken arrow" nuclear missile accident, but a mishap that damaged a Bangor Trident submarine ballistic missile and was kept under wraps by the Navy until this week threatens broken trust on an international scale.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/164710_missile13.html

{{Keywords: KEPT UNDER WRAPS}}
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Government under fire over bombings
From correspondents in Madrid
March 14, 2004
MORE than a thousand people held a protest in Madrid today to blame this week's bombs in the capital on the government's unpopular decision to support the US war on Iraq.

Shouting "The bombs on Iraq have exploded in Madrid" and "Resign", the crowd gathered in front of the ruling Popular Party's headquarters but were held back by police in riot gear.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8964146%5E1702,00.html
219 posted on 03/13/2004 3:24:53 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: EyesWideOpen; WestCoastGal; Pro-Bush; BagCamAddict; ganeshpuri89; pokerbuddy0; cgk; Sabertooth; ...
PING TO THREAD FIVE
220 posted on 03/13/2004 3:29:18 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: TexKat
a google on:
4515 sb

will give 2 electrical parts and the address of a cafe.
221 posted on 03/13/2004 3:30:56 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Do a google.com search for: blown tires on airplanes also: 1425 blown tires on airplanes)
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To: Revel; thecabal
Rev, Cab? Link please?
222 posted on 03/13/2004 3:31:40 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: null and void; All
N. Korea, Libya had same nuke help

WASHINGTON, March 13 (UPI) -- A new classified intelligence report details how a Pakistani lab gave North Korea all the technology and equipment it needed to build a nuclear weapon.

The New York Times reported Saturday the White House received the report last week that detailed the extent to which Pakistan's Khan Research Laboratories provided assistance to North Korea's efforts to produce uranium-based nuclear weapons. The Times cited American and Asian officials who had been briefed on its conclusions.

http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20040313-050212-7951r.htm
223 posted on 03/13/2004 3:32:50 PM PST by JustPiper
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U.S. convention security focusing on rail threat

By Tom Ramstack
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Law-enforcement agencies are designing a security plan for the Democratic and Republican national conventions intended to avoid the kind of bombings that killed 199 persons at Madrid rail stations Thursday.

Both the political conventions this summer will be held in buildings on top of rail stations.

http://www.washtimes.com/business/20040312-103014-6315r.htm
224 posted on 03/13/2004 3:34:25 PM PST by JustPiper
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Divers locate water taxi's roof

By Julie Halenar
ASSOCIATED PRESS

BALTIMORE — Searchers yesterday found the roof of a water taxi that capsized and sank, giving them a promising site to look for the bodies of three Virginia residents missing for nearly a week.

http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20040312-105503-9633r.htm
225 posted on 03/13/2004 3:35:40 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: freeperfromnj
It looks that way freeeprfromnj.
226 posted on 03/13/2004 3:35:48 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: All
Has anyone heard any updated information about the new OBL message just released today, or is this the deadly dreaded wait period before it airs?

227 posted on 03/13/2004 3:37:20 PM PST by judicial meanz (If liberals are not totalitarian in nature, why do they need deception to get their points across?)
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To: tmp02
"We will return these to you (Russians)...You will, God willing, see hundreds of people crippled," he said. Another attack in the offing
228 posted on 03/13/2004 3:37:46 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: knak
Oh dear friend what is wrong?
229 posted on 03/13/2004 3:40:00 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: StillProud2BeFree
ping
230 posted on 03/13/2004 3:41:33 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: rickylc
What type of 'civil' installations?
231 posted on 03/13/2004 3:42:35 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: rickylc
google each word that is strange.

I see dolphins, they are already reporting deaths of them in Florida and promedmail.org does not know why.

further down is the bridge and parking lot.

Sounds like this may be an old message.

I didn't try the other words and numbers.

Remember, google is your friend, no matter what garbage you put in, it will find something to match it.

I often find myself shaking, at the results of something that appeared pure garbage.
232 posted on 03/13/2004 3:42:43 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Do a google.com search for: blown tires on airplanes also: 1425 blown tires on airplanes)
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To: livius
I think ETA and AQ were working together.

Bump! Me too!
233 posted on 03/13/2004 3:43:31 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: appalachian_dweller
if ketchup boy kerry wins the WH, we will be attacked again on US soil. The guys a moron and a traitor who doesn't have the sense God gave a rock. I don't trust him.

BTTT!
234 posted on 03/13/2004 3:44:20 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: judicial meanz
Fox News mentioned it earlier and showed a clip. I believe it is a new Taliban video.
235 posted on 03/13/2004 3:45:57 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: JustPiper; All
JP: just a bug I guess, I'm better now.

this was on "It's happening" thought I'd post part of it here. Part of it is posted numerous times there. Sorry it's so long, but this is only part of it.

The beginning :

- the strong the hitting of sheikh Osama very .. He kept off it by a month that the powers scales are disturbed .

- the collapse of the most of currencies except the Euro . ( and advises the Muslims an entirely and the merchants specially by that they hurry into the exchange of the papers for the gold and the silver and she the right currency, then a relative the papers will lose its value )

- hitting in two European countries, and a formation strong .

- another hitting in America .

- the setting of the whole of the hitting load on Saudi Arabia, and its accusation is that it is the terrorism source .

- a big jihad work in Riyadh .

- Saudi Arabia starts with the presentation of the martyrs sacrifices to America . ( and this in it the views succeeded that the regime the agent will execute some of the militants in the capture in an attempt of the satisfaction of America ..But it will regret a lot its doing )

- in a month of 3 he is perpendicular 4 celestial bodies on a single axis .

- the beginning of probability space body appearance from a Rabi I, all of the peoples see it .

- Saddam 's return in Iraq .

- the assassination of a big personality in Egypt .

- the kidnapping of a remarkable personality in Saudi Arabia .

- the lowering of 15 thousand Americans in the eastern and Al Jubayl .. And the refusing allied with them .. And the defence of the hypocrites and the system the customer about them . ( therefore the sheikh warns the people of these regions from the refusing and from the external danger coming to them and advises them on the complete readiness therefore, also the strange that it views came she reports that the regime will try the defence for the crusade invasion by each rudeness, and he and its customers try the justification therefore, hopefully these events are in it that in public they and their customers exposed )

- the return of the aircraft carrier ( Kitty Hawk ) to the region . ( hopefully you heard also about the arrival of some aircraft carriers to the Gulf, for the war on the terrorism, hopefully they feel near the hitting, and premeditate to the sanctuaries countries an evil ..Allah kept it from their scheme )

- he gathers the militants in Riyadh ( from all of the regions and from outside the two Holy Mosques countries and from Iraq ) by number 70 thousand militants arrive to the resistance of the crusaders attack and the regime tries the defence for them and the justification of them .. But he does not can the resistance of the militants .

- the arrival of the black flags and the sheikh Osama Allah kept it from the east to the sanctuaries countries and the participation in the fight of the crusaders .

- the jihad works continue on rules and the crusaders complexes in Riyadh and another .

- the entrance of commitment and guidance is each house in the two Holy Mosques countries . ( blessings ..Then a house will not remain except and he is found in it committed to the Allah's religion, and these events will scrutinize the people )

- Pervez and Arafat assassination in a single month .

- victories in Iraq over the crusaders and massacres happen for them .. And treasons of the militants result from the Baath Party, and picks the fruit of their fight . ( it is known that there are sectors from the army participating in the fight in Iraq, then he is not the militants alone who fight, and a cooperation might have happened between them that therefore the sheikh advises the militants the non-cooperation with the dispatch except in the narrowest limits, until he does not recognize their secrets and the eradication of them facilitates so that I allow Allah, and will not save a caution from a fate ) .

- the victory of the militants over the crusaders in the eastern and the ruin of Al Jubayl until he will not live in it one of, and the ruin of the oil refineries . And the destruction of the American aircraft carrier ( Kitty Hawk ), after fierce battles .

- double America, and its disintegration is to 7 countries .

236 posted on 03/13/2004 3:46:11 PM PST by knak
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To: Domestic Church
Prayers for our Nation and all Nations under the threat
237 posted on 03/13/2004 3:46:44 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: judicial meanz
"I hope they dont draft for linguistics: I speak Chinese ( was fluent, but rusty now)."

Hitting home isn't it! Sitting here thinking of so many I know who could be drafted. Glad and my languages are latin and french with tidbits of gaelic for spice. I am willing to learn arabic or whatever though.
238 posted on 03/13/2004 3:51:14 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: tmp02
The message said the proposed council should help Muslim fighters obtain light arms, rocket propelled grenades and anti-tank mines.
239 posted on 03/13/2004 3:51:39 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: Domestic Church
The Healthcare Professionals draft would probably get me first, to be honest.

I am a Health Physicist by trade...LOL
240 posted on 03/13/2004 3:55:21 PM PST by judicial meanz (If liberals are not totalitarian in nature, why do they need deception to get their points across?)
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To: appalachian_dweller
Somebody posted a link to this article yesterday on thread #4.

http://www.ncmonline.com/content/ncm/2001/oct/1001spain.html
241 posted on 03/13/2004 3:55:32 PM PST by Mrs. Xtrmst (All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. --Edmund Burke)
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To: thecabal
Rather good and I like you too ;)

And under what do I find the Quizno thingee?
242 posted on 03/13/2004 3:56:50 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: TexKat
I was trying to seperate the video from the re-translation of the earlier Al Qaeda tape.

Are they seperate releases, or one in the same?
243 posted on 03/13/2004 3:59:48 PM PST by judicial meanz (If liberals are not totalitarian in nature, why do they need deception to get their points across?)
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To: freeperfromnj; judicial meanz
Spain says that have a video tape where Al Queda is taking responsibility per Fox News
244 posted on 03/13/2004 4:02:43 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: thecabal
Bottoms Up! Butt Workouts II

High Hip Thrusts

Lie on your back, arms next to your sides, with your knees bent and feet flat on the floor. Raise your heels off the floor and maintain them that way the entire time. Slowly raise your butt and hips as high as you can and squeeze your butt as hard as possible. It should feel like your trying to press the muscles next to your tailbone together. Do this on every rep. Do two sets of 20.

245 posted on 03/13/2004 4:03:00 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: Selene
Now DHS should look into this! Bet they are hiding there!
246 posted on 03/13/2004 4:04:39 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: Selene
And by you pinpointing the location this backs it up!
247 posted on 03/13/2004 4:07:18 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: judicial meanz
I was trying to seperate the video from the re-translation of the earlier Al Qaeda tape.

Okay what Al Qaeda tape are you talking about? The video I was speaking of in that particular instance needs no translation. It was a clip of a new video of the Tabliban that Fox News has been showing.

248 posted on 03/13/2004 4:09:50 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; All
I was over at the anomalies board and came across this. This is extremely confusing. Paging Sean Lomax (he was posting over there as well.)


FIUC
Newbie
Member # 4659

Rate Member posted March 13, 2004 13:14


In the era of colonialism Europeans chopped chunks out of Africa. The French took what is now Cameroon; the Belgians claimed the Congo; Portugal took Angola, England got South Africa.
Grabbing a resource-rich colony was normal colonial mestatisis.

The Spanish took the smallest chunk, the Rio Muni lower basin and delta, perfect for a trading post, and the island of Bioko in the Gulf of Guinea.

Today it is called Equatorial Guinea. The capitol, Malabo, is on Bioka's north shore. Now there are about a half-million citizens. Mostly they speak Spanish.

In the mid-90's OIL was discovered in the Gulf of Guinea. Sleepy Malabo was courted by corporate titans 'Exxon Mobile' and 'Chevron Texaco'.

Post-colonial current gov't status: The official Prime Minister is Teodoro Obiang Nguema while there is a 'gov't-in-exile' in SPAIN lead by shadowy Severo Nsa.

So Malabo becomes coup target.. Plane with 64 mercenaries flies out of US, refuels in Barbados, flies onto Harare, Zimbabwe to buy a couple hundred thousands dollars worth of weapons. Oops, bust.

The mercenary's leader is Nick du Toit. Casually he reveals that Americans hired him to overthrow Obiang and send him to exile in Spain while installing Nsa as ruler.

Then, suddenly the Madrid commuter trains explode..Curious timing eh..

Not my words, just a curio.

Also a "translation" of the letter.

"En el nombre de Dios, Clemente y Misericordioso, cuando te castigan, tienes que castigar del mismo modo a quienes te castigaron. Mátalos allí donde los encuentres; expúlsalos como ellos te expulsaron; la sedición es más grave que el asesinato. A los que cometen agresiones contra ti, debes hacerles lo mismo.

Las Brigadas de Abu Hafs al Masri prometieron en su último comunicado referente a las explosiones de Kerbala y Bagdad del 2 de marzo de 2004 que se preparaban para próximas operaciones y hemos cumplido nuestra promesa: el escuadrón de la muerte ha conseguido penetrar en la profundidad de la Cruzada europea, golpeando a uno de
los pilares de los Cruzados y sus aliados: España, con un golpe doloroso. Es parte de un viejo ajuste de cuentas con el Cruzado España, aliado de (Norte) América en su guerra contra el islam.

(the translation goes on)

Anyway, the poster writes that our intelligence services have not found any credible evidence that the terror group actually exists, and refer to it as a "phantom" group. The poster says that this same group claimed responsibility for the blackouts, which were shown NOT to be related to terrorism.

Finally- and this is the most perplexing, the poster indicates that the translation of the letter he (or she) read, makes no mention of an attack on the US being 90% ready.

What are your thoughts?
249 posted on 03/13/2004 4:15:19 PM PST by jerseygirl
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To: judicial meanz
Sounds like you're in either way.
250 posted on 03/13/2004 4:16:25 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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