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Media War Against Bush
The Reality Check ^ | 13 March 2004 | Randall H. Nunn

Posted on 03/13/2004 7:53:34 AM PST by Lando Lincoln

It is quite clear by now that the media elites believe they can oust President Bush by orchestrating a campaign against him that is unmatched in its scope and single-mindedness of purpose. Rather than changing their ways in response to the increasing criticism they are receiving because of their pervasive liberal bias, they are becoming more determined and more partisan than ever in their drive to install a far-left Senator with little experience and even less principle as president. The battle for the presidency will be between these liberal media moguls aided by the far-left anti-war, anti-Western radicals and average Americans of traditional values aided by talk radio, the Internet and the few unbiased media outlets like FOX News and The Wall Street Journal. In other words, principled middle America against the far-left ideologues.

The leftists in the media might have been able, once upon a time, to create a tidal wave of public opinion against Bush through a campaign of misinformation and bias, but with the Internet, talk radio and a network willing to give balanced coverage, they are in for a real fight. And hopefully, the results in November will go a long way toward breaking the back of the huge liberal spin machine that much of the media has become.

In the past year, we have seen scandals at The New York Times involving its senior management failing to supervise journalists, allowing and encouraging inaccurate and biased reporting to be published. We have had a number of books published detailing not just the liberal bias in the media but also the arrogance of those in the media who are the biggest purveyors of this bias. There are books about women in the media who spin their liberal webs of propaganda and attempt to set the political agenda for American women--a liberal agenda. Yet all of this criticism and all of the counter activity seems only to have infuriated the media bosses and elitists and they have reacted by abandoning any effort to be objective. It is as if the media elites are saying, "Let them eat cake" to the millions of us who now see and fully comprehend their excesses, unfairness and arrogance.

The way to defeat the liberal control of the mass media is to switch to talk radio, the Internet and FOX News as the communication channels of choice. We know that we will not see or hear objective reporting or commentary on the networks or in the “mainstream” press, so why spend any time listening to it? You will find that if you listen to FOX News channel instead of ABC, CBS, NBC or CNN, you will begin to feel optimistic again and proud of your country and the ideals of western civilization. And the best part is that you won’t be made to feel guilty about having such thoughts. Perhaps this will even lead to a restoration of objectivity in the press and on television and allow both to once again reflect the values of the people of this country and not just a handful of leftists seeking to condition us through skillful manipulation of what we see and hear each day in the media.

The Greek philosopher Archimedes once said, "Give me a point on which to stand and I will move the earth." The leftist media is saying "Give us the ability to control and slant the news and we will bend the minds of the young, the unsuspecting and the uncommitted to our political and social views." And their views will produce a generation of politically correct but feeble-minded dependents of the nanny state who will be only too glad to turn over personal responsibility to government and the elitists on the left.

The immediate objective for conservative Americans who believe in limited, constitutional government, individual liberty and traditional values must be to defeat the effort by the press to destroy President Bush. With the massive amounts of money being supplied by billionaire George Soros, as well as the Hollywood crowd coupled with the near-monopoly control of the networks, the task will be difficult. But the importance of victory could not be more clear. Weakness or failure of will by the United States would be disastrous at this point, both because of the tremendous lift it would give to our enemies worldwide and because of the blow it would deliver to the confidence of those Americans who have fought long and hard for the principles of freedom and liberty. But once this battle is won, conservatives need to take a serious look at our schools and universities, as well as the entertainment industry and popular culture because the rot that has set in there needs to be countered as well if we are to avoid having the leftist ideology forced on us through unthinking acceptance of it by a rising generation that has been propagandized by those in control.

This is truly a cultural war. And it is being fought on the left by a powerful and well-entrenched media that believes it holds the high ground and the advantage. But I am betting that the Internet, talk radio and FOX News can outflank the media's Maginot Line and free the millions of information-starved prisoners in their audiences from the gulags of bias and thought control that the media have created.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bias; broadcastnews; ccrm; foxnews; gwb2004; kerry; kerryrecord; liberalbias; media; mediabias
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I have to get to the keyboard more. This culture war, media war is combining with the war on terror and the so-called "useful idiots" to create a frighteningly deadly situation.

Lando

1 posted on 03/13/2004 7:53:35 AM PST by Lando Lincoln
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To: Lando Lincoln
On the money!
2 posted on 03/13/2004 7:56:10 AM PST by King Black Robe (With freedom of religion and speech now abridged, it is time to go after the press.)
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To: Lando Lincoln
This culture war, media war is combining with the war on terror and the so-called "useful idiots" to create a frighteningly deadly situation.

The most breathtakingly outrageous latest example is the Iraqi spy woman who worked with Democrats (high profile ones as a spokesperson, no less) and media, yet turned out to be Andrew Card's cousin. As soon as they learned that aspect, that is what became the lead.

Yes, it later became known that Card was involved in the story, as he had become aware that his distant cousin was possibly engaged in espionage and turned her in, but the first article I read informing me of the relationship did not mention that. They lead in the headline and first paragraph only with the "Iraqi spy linked to Bush WH chief of staff", then gave the cousin relationship. Finally in the middle of the story it mentioned the Democrats and media gigs.

I'm hoping that most people intuitively grasp that the fact that the woman was arrested points to this administration not being cahoots with her misdeeds, as the article plainly tried to imply. The headline should have been straightforward that a spy was arrested, or the Card connection should have strained to point out he immediately turned her in.

3 posted on 03/13/2004 8:06:33 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Timesink; *CCRM; governsleastgovernsbest; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; ...
Revived Media Shenanigans ping - George Bush Has Got All That Money For Campaign Ads, But Poor Old John Kerry Has Only Got The Combined Advertising Power Of All The Alphabet Networks

On, Off, or grab it for a Media Shenanigans/Schadenfreude ping:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~anamusedspectator/

Swaying the opinion of the people with television doesn't really work. That's why they can only charge a pittance for 30 seconds of advertising during the Super Bowl. ;-)

4 posted on 03/13/2004 8:13:38 AM PST by an amused spectator (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to be lied to by Democrats)
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To: King Black Robe
But even Fox is succumbing to the liberal spin. This AM I heard that Kerry was "firing back against right wing attacks."

So far the bad guys are up two over GW; the flap over his 911 ad and the on-microphone comments that show Kerry as a victim of "right wing attacks" that forced him to be incontinent (I'm referring to his words not his prostate problems).
5 posted on 03/13/2004 8:14:37 AM PST by PolishProud (A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants)
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To: cyncooper
There is not a day that passes where I become more convinced that the liberals/socialists in this great nation of ours, are at least as big a threat to our security and freedom as any threat that we have faced since our beginning.

I am dead serious in this opinion.

The question is this: What the devil are we prepared to do about it?
6 posted on 03/13/2004 8:15:35 AM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: Lando Lincoln
great bit
7 posted on 03/13/2004 8:16:47 AM PST by The Wizard
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To: Lando Lincoln
Well spoken! I just sent $50.00 to the Bush2004 campaign. Their gonna need it. My fear is that these media types are not silenced by CFR. And the Dems aren't going to obey the law anyway. Bush IMO needs to use this time till September (60 Day limit) to solicit as much outside help to destroy Kerry similar to the unsolicited group that ran the Willie Horton ads for his dad. The media must be countered.

The most amazing example of the bias is on radio news at the top of every hour. Listening to Glen Beck yesterday at the 10 AM news break NBC Radio News reported "President Bush was on Long Island to dedicate a 9/11 memorial and to attand a FUND RAISER fueling controversy!!" You cant be more blatant than that.

8 posted on 03/13/2004 8:17:54 AM PST by Pharmer (W is the man)
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To: Lando Lincoln
Great Hit piece.

The words out and "they", the media elites know we know that its a Kultur/ Culture War. In fact the word has gained currency with Chris Matthews and others. All they have to do is read FR regularly to know this. Add the BBC to the mildly humiliated. Add the old network personalities who have exposed their old bosses.

"liberal webs of propaganda and attempt to set the political agenda for American women--a liberal agenda."

"This is truly a cultural war. And it is being fought on the left by a powerful and well-entrenched media that believes it holds the high ground and the advantage. But I am betting that the Internet, talk radio and FOX News can outflank the media's Maginot Line"

Kelly Ann, Laura, Ann as will as Hannity, Scarbough, and O'Reilly

They know we know, we know they know

9 posted on 03/13/2004 8:22:41 AM PST by Helms (I'll take a Harvard MBA and Jet Pilot over bs and a swift boat anyday)
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To: Lando Lincoln
I heard one of the guest on Bulls and Bears show(I think that's the name) say that the media won't be making the same (stupid) mistake they did with Al Borg, in other words they're out to get Bush oust from Office!
10 posted on 03/13/2004 8:29:43 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Lando Lincoln
The Mc Carthy hearings were stopped before they were complete. The many “seeds” (read CELLS) were left to grow and multiply. Ronald Reagan and Walt Disney both testified at these hearings:
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6458/

Mr. REAGAN: “Well, sir . . . 99 percent of us are pretty well aware of what is going on… ….with their usual tactics, trying to run a majority of an organization with a well organized minority”.
Mr. DISNEY: In my opinion they are Communists. No one has any way of proving those things.
The young radicals (communists/socialists) of the 60’s have graduated from college and have become college professors, teachers, lawyers, politicians, or the business world elite. They are taking OUR country away from us and saving it for the “Future owners”.
11 posted on 03/13/2004 8:30:27 AM PST by Not a 60s Hippy
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To: Howie66
If conservative billionaires don't buy some of these networks, or start their own, we can do little to stop them.
12 posted on 03/13/2004 8:31:46 AM PST by international american
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To: Lando Lincoln
These "reporters" are screaming like rabble rousers at a Nazi beer hall riot. They can't be reasoned with or debated. They are not our friends. They are the enemy.
13 posted on 03/13/2004 8:33:33 AM PST by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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To: Pharmer
The media has gone ballistic this year. They will spin anything they can to defeat Bush!!
14 posted on 03/13/2004 8:34:06 AM PST by international american
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To: cyncooper
But the left is winning this media campaign. What ever one thinks about either the accuracy or effectiveness of polls, it is amazing that a candidate of Kerry's background is doing so well. This so-called "50/50 Nation" is not that far to the left. I have been following American politics for close to 40 years and I have never seen anything like this. The media is so outrageously corrupt - my foreign friends often comment on it (and yes there are conservative foreigners that would like to see Bush reelected.)

I am beginning to think that the only way that the GOP can win this is to take the media's bias directly to the media on national air time and throw it in their faces. Imagine if someone like Gulliani took someone like Russet to task for it during an interview, or some one like Powell going around the country stumpimng on it? They may need a concerted effort to of just such tactics to turn this around.

It is certain that the GOP has made some mistakes in the campaign but they have not blundered to the point where they deserve the numbers that they are getting. The GOP congress critters on the hill are even starting to waffle. It is beginning to look as though Rove and Co. have underestimated the animus against them. They need to rally the GOP and the voters.

We need to realize what it will mean to the future of politics in this country if the media succeeds in this. It will set back conservative political action for quite some time and discourage people on the right from running for office. The GOP needs to address it in a straight forward manner.

It is amazing that every Bush add in subjected to days of media "analysis." I have yet to hear Kerry called on any of these outrageous antics. I thought the911 flap was unbelievable and borders on the criminal. Some one might have a little chat with the mainstream media's legal depts. and talk about RICO charges (a long shot I know, but at least it might get them to tone down a bit.) The hypocrisy of will not stand scrutiny if light is focused on it. If Bush tried any of this stuff the would be no end to it. Again, the GOP need to grasp that real damage is being done to the campaign by their tepid response to this campaign. The course is simple: call the media on their agenda. The need a stronger response. Too much is at stack for them to continue with these mushy responses.

15 posted on 03/13/2004 8:34:41 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: Lando Lincoln
But, this isn't the first time the media has supported the sleazes and opposed the good guys. In the past two presidential elections, they set up coverage the clearly tried to influence the outcome.

In 2000, the outfit they set up to question voters coming from the polls falsified the responses and indicated that Gore, not Bush, was winning. The reports from Florida were designed to make Nader voters in California stay home. It was a dishonest and blatant attempt to influence the outcome of the election. Where's the surprise?

16 posted on 03/13/2004 8:37:07 AM PST by Tacis
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To: CasearianDaoist
WHAT to do than! I swear if I lived in the city where all those RAGS have their main offices I would be out there in a heart beat picketing their front doors!!! C'MON FREEPERS IT'S TIME TO HELP W, seems money isn't the course but OUR VOICES and FEET are today's WEAPONS!!!
17 posted on 03/13/2004 8:40:16 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Tacis
They did it to Reagan, too.

I was younger, and not immersed in politics like now, but I remember jaw-dropping moments of mental disconnect as the media would report something one way while my lying eyes and ears told me something else.

They have stepped it up a notch or three, there's no denying, but I say again: They tried this with Reagan, too, the he's dumb, he falls asleep at meetings, he'll blow the world up, and so on and so on and so on and so on. Despite clinton getting elected, I try not to underestimate Americans and I think the truth will triumph, but it will take unrelenting and unremitting work to make sure the message gets out.
18 posted on 03/13/2004 8:41:57 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Tacis
But, this isn't the first time the media has supported the sleazes and opposed the good guys.

Yes but never like this. Not even during the Reagan years. As I said in a prior post the only way it to take it back to the media. A Bush loss will do such damage to th conservative movement in this country, particularly to a person like Kerry. For a president that has accomplished so much and to have such a clear choice of alternatives to loss to a flack like Kerry will be a disaster to us. This election will set the course of the is country for at least a decade and maybe a generation. Rove and Co. need to understand that they are fighting for the life of the nation and do whatever is necessary.

19 posted on 03/13/2004 8:43:44 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: Howie66
The democrats and their media wing are going for broke this cycle. These people don't even care if their bias is blatantly obvious.

This seems to be the last assault of the socialist party here in the us. If they lose they are done for a VERY long time. If they win, they will NEVER give up power again. (I hope you can imagine what this means)

This really is kinda scary. We are up against a FULL assault of ALL the socialists resources used to their MAXIMUM extent. We may not win round one of this fight.

If we do fail to beat the socialists this country is in DEEP trouble, they will make sure they never lose power again. The constitution will be no obstacle.

I think every one of us has contemplated the need for armed revolution at one point in time. The thoughts are never turned into action because we can see a light at the end of the tunnel. If we fail THIS time, that light will be a train.

Kerry is not just a socialist he is a full fledged Marxist. He and his followers will NOT let the law or the constitution stand in the way of gaining power and KEEPING it. Democrat vote fraud is a problem now, if they win it will be SOP. Conservative voices WILL be taken off the air through the use of "the fairness doctrine" and other restrictions, regulations and guidelines. Web sites like freerepublic will be taken down through the courts and BS lawsuits by willing leftist judges. The US will become subject to the ICC. These people cannot be allowed to win.

Consider this a warning of impending danger. We must do EVERYTHING to defeat it while we can still do so peacefully. Also consider this a "heads up". Start getting in shape, lose some extra pounds. Maybe go a little more often to the rifle range to hone your skills. If you don't have a firearm, this might be a good time to buy one. Those with family members in the military might want to bring up some subjects with them to get a feel for what they might do. Officers are the priority here. The more knowledge the military members have about the situation the less likely they are to believe the propaganda from the socialists.

Think it over...

"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."
- Churchill

This quote outlines every decision we have to make.

I posted this to a previous thread but thought it appropriate for this one as well. We have ALL thought about the need for this some day. The founders gave us the 2nd because they KNEW we would need it some day. If the Marxists take control in November we WILL need it.
20 posted on 03/13/2004 8:48:48 AM PST by myself6 (Nazi = socialist democrat=socialist therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: RoseofTexas
Well I live in NYC and believe me you strategy is not going to work. The media has to be taken to task by someone with credibility. If the Labor party in the UK can take the BBC down a peg or two anything is possible. They just have to have the courage to do so.

There is a central problem in our politics: we mince around the elephant in the room, and that elephant is the anti-american socialist agenda of the Democrat party and their organs in the media, academia, the courts and entrenched government employees. At least Reagan could telegraph it ("There they go again..." remember that?) Bush seems to act like this is just a disagreement between gentlemen. He may not believe that, but that is how he comes across.

We can never seem to address the real predifery of the Democrat Party directly on the national political stage - maybe we should.

21 posted on 03/13/2004 8:51:04 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: myself6
If we do fail to beat the socialists this country is in DEEP trouble, they will make sure they never lose power again. The constitution will be no obstacle.

Exactly. Yet the people of the nation do not see this. THe GOP needs to go right out and say exactly what you are saying. They never do - it is alway a wink, a shiboleth and a subtest. That is part of the problem. If the Dems get in brother, look out, as you quite rightly say.

I will give you an example. Why, for te love of Pete, when the dempocrats bring up the Pariot Act or cuba does not Bush bring up Waco as an example of civil liberties being oppressed by the Rats? And I mean say "the when after them because they were christians, white, and wanted government out of their lives?" Not that I am a Waco nut, I am just using it to make a point about the in ability of the GOP to use the media against itself.

22 posted on 03/13/2004 8:58:44 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: Lando Lincoln
Don't make the mistake to think this isn't happening. During our last Governor's election the elite media in Tennessee decided they WANTED THE RAT who was running. So they set out to report ONLY negative stories about US Rep Van Hilleary. Not one postitive story was written. Little mention of what his record was in DC. Slammed him every chance they got. Needless to say it worked. We now have a RAT gov.
23 posted on 03/13/2004 9:00:52 AM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: CasearianDaoist
subtest=subtext
24 posted on 03/13/2004 9:01:42 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: GailA
If the media has such power ther must be some legal recourse to this nonsense. I do not know what it is but their needs to be a serious natinal discussion. Again the GOP should call the media on this directly.
25 posted on 03/13/2004 9:04:26 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: Lando Lincoln
I have been around a long time, and have never witnessed anything like this. Very alarming. And ominous.
26 posted on 03/13/2004 9:07:33 AM PST by tkathy (Our economy, our investments, and our jobs DEPEND on powerful national security.)
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To: Howie66
I agree. They are a Clear and Present Danger.
27 posted on 03/13/2004 9:16:10 AM PST by MarkeyD (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/about/">Three Paper Cuts and I'm Out</a>)
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To: Not a 60s Hippy
The Mc Carthy hearings were stopped before they were complete. The many “seeds” (read CELLS) were left to grow and multiply. Ronald Reagan and Walt Disney both testified at these hearings: http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6458/

Mr. REAGAN: “Well, sir . . . 99 percent of us are pretty well aware of what is going on… ….with their usual tactics, trying to run a majority of an organization with a well organized minority”.
Mr. DISNEY: In my opinion they are Communists. No one has any way of proving those things. The young radicals (communists/socialists) of the 60’s have graduated from college and have become college professors, teachers, lawyers, politicians, or the business world elite. They are taking OUR country away from us and saving it for the “Future owners”.

________________________________

Truer words were never spoken on this subject!

But...David slew Goliath and turned away the Philistines with a slingshot and a small stone because he had faith in, and abided by the precepts of, Almighty God his Creator who promised to help him. The army of the Left has faith in a false doctrine and in their Godless Goliath. We on the Right may have only a slingshot and small stone in comparison, but most of us have the faith in, thus the promises of, the same God and Creator who helped young David slay that giant and turn away his army. We must do battle with what we have available to us, and pray for the sustaining providence of Almighty God. His Will be done.

28 posted on 03/13/2004 9:19:14 AM PST by LucyJo
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To: Lando Lincoln
Kerry doesn't need campaign contributions.

$61. and the media should do it.

29 posted on 03/13/2004 9:20:54 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Lando Lincoln
The culture war is essentially over and we've already lost. How so? Well, remember when the RATs had to move to the right to win elections? Now, the lefties aggressively campaign to the left, and Republicans have to move left to get elected, especially on social issues.

Here's the other thing...You'd think that in our form of government, when one party controls the executive branch, both houses of congress and the majority of governorships and state legislatures, that party's agenda would be dominant. But guess what...it turns out that the real power is in the hands of those who aren't even elected by the people: educators, media, judiciary and government bureaucrats. Those who control these components of society control society itself. Right now, and for the forseeable future, the left owns of all of those components and they are constantly increasing their power and influence.

30 posted on 03/13/2004 9:24:42 AM PST by clintonh8r (Vietnam veteran against John Kerry.)
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To: myself6
Thank you for this response. You and I are clearly on the same page with this.

Make no mistake about it, I am aware that IF the RAT party is allowed to regain the reigns of power in this country, they will never relinquish them again under any circumstance. Their past and present actions are proof positive that they have no use whatever for the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, or the rule of law. The only thing that they are interested in is the acquisition of POWER. To that goal, the ends justify the means.

If this exercise in democracy is to survive, these people (liberal/socialists) must be stopped.
31 posted on 03/13/2004 9:25:35 AM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: PolishProud
This AM I heard that Kerry was "firing back against right wing attacks."

Firing back? The guy has been lobbing stink bombs for months and everyone knows it. The media keeps this up and they will become absolutely irrelevant. They're not smart enough to know that their paychecks are attached to their credibility.

32 posted on 03/13/2004 9:27:07 AM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: tkathy
Ok guys--this is the first time I have posted. I love to read the posts. But today, I am going to sound off. There IS a way to beat this. But it's going to take hard work and determination. We can't roll over and play dead..and we can't let our elected officials roll over like dogs getting their bellies scratched.
First: You need to get organized and get a list. E-mail and write letters to you local papers, and even the national rags. Take common sense talking points and present them in a calm, rational manner. For example:
"Dear Letter to the Editor:
Did you know that the story about the Iraqui spy that was reported in the news the last few days was pretty well lacking in objectivity? It's shameful that the point of the story was made that the SPY arrested was a relative of Andy Card...especially when HE was responsible for sending a heads up to the FBI to check her out. You also seemed to have left out some important points; That being the spy worked for several important elected Democratics."
There--just a short note, dont accuse or WHINE for cripes sake..thats what the libs do. Just hit them..and do this with talking points everyday. There is a website to get your local papers http://www.georgewbush.com/btlhome.aspx
Write and save your editorials and letters and resend them until they get printed. Do this all summer and fall. Don't back down.
Also, get a list of our repub reps and tell them to grow some backbone and get out to the media and BE PISSED!
We have to fight fire with fire. Now is not the time to get all hand wringy and think we can't do something about this.
Also, get onto some message boards that support BUSH and tell them all to do the same thing.
Join up with the Bush teams grassroots organization and do whatever you can to help out. Not only $$$ but your time.
Ok, now did I leave anything out? Anymore ideas here???
I take this very seriosly. Lets face it folks--the Dems will do ANYTHING to get back into power. And we have to be heard..one way or another.
Think about when President Bush held the megaphone and yelled "They are ALL going to Hear Us Now" Well, we have to grab that megaphone and DO something with it!
Arbee
33 posted on 03/13/2004 9:29:29 AM PST by arbee4bush
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To: CasearianDaoist
If the media has such power ther must be some legal recourse to this nonsense. I do not know what it is but their needs to be a serious natinal discussion. Again the GOP should call the media on this directly.

I don't see any legal recourse. The recourse is to fight fire with fire, to ridicule the media, to establish alternative means of propaganda that favor conservative points of view, and so on. The GOP can take its message straight to the people. Just take off the gloves. Ridicule the news reports, distract the reporters on their minor errors while asserting your substantive points. There are lots of ways to wage effective public persuasion. Taking "it" to the courts (legal recourse) is submitting your opinion and message to a hostile judiciary. Ridicule the activist judiciary too. Make the news exciting, that gets peoples' attention and, if done well (some humor), gets their interest too.

34 posted on 03/13/2004 9:30:52 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Lando Lincoln; All
-The Prince of Tides- Bush ads, Kerry ads, the Tides Foundation, and so much more--
35 posted on 03/13/2004 9:32:32 AM PST by backhoe
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To: clintonh8r
... it turns out that the real power is in the hands of those who aren't even elected by the people: educators, media, judiciary and government bureaucrats. Those who control these components of society control society itself. Right now, and for the forseeable future, the left owns of all of those components and they are constantly increasing their power and influence.

It turns out that authority exists to the extent the people permit it. You are correct, that the battle for control has many fronts, and education, churches, law, and other pillars of society are worm-infested.

Don't lose spirit because liberals are annoying. Just be clear in your principles, and willing to assert resistance against the worms. After all, you have to admit, the left does not own you! Freedom is awesome, and contaigious.

36 posted on 03/13/2004 9:37:55 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: arbee4bush
Your post is right on target. My daddy used to say when there was a difficult task in front of him..."nothin' to it but to do it". We MUST do what you have said and more.
37 posted on 03/13/2004 9:38:28 AM PST by LucyJo
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To: Cboldt
Well we might reexamine the slander and the fraud laws. Certainly a person that gave faudulent information about finaicial matters and profited from it would be up for procescution from the SEC, so there are precedents (not to mention the "farimness doctrine" or the disaterous CFR law.) In a moral sense their is definately collusion. Remember that unlike print media, TV uses a public resoucrce and is

The "Fire with Fire" strategy seems to mean that they will win, if past trend are any guide. If the rats get back their full power, no conservative ownership of large media will get by the FCC.

They do really see it as a case of now or never.

38 posted on 03/13/2004 9:38:41 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: Lando Lincoln
The leftist media programmers didn't learn their lesson from the "gay saturation" last year nor the AOL Presents the MTV Super Bowl Half Time Show.

TeeVee viewing is largely a passive experience but every now and then people will get outraged at the insults to their intelligence and push back. A saturated media push against President Bush (with nothing but Ra-Ra for John Kerry) could just motivate people to show the talking heads wrong.

This election could be another day when "Americans threw a temper tantrum" by voting Republican.

39 posted on 03/13/2004 9:40:49 AM PST by weegee ('...Kerry is like that or so a crack sausage.')
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To: tkathy
I have been around a long time, and have never witnessed anything like this. Very alarming. And ominous.

I agree. I think it would be scarier if I didn't have faith that a large fraction of the voting public sees right through it, and is laughing at them. It is waaaay over-the-top, to the point that it's funny.

I don't believe that there has to be anyone running around telling them to do this. I think it's that "reporter", like "university professor" has become one of those professions where being super-liberal is one of the qualifications you need to be hired or accepted by your peers. I think most of this is caused by well-meaning yahoos who are acting as "an Army of one" to advance liberal politics.

The media are so drenched in liberalism now that the only noises they make are those the Democratic Party would make. The two groups don't even have to talk for this to happen.


40 posted on 03/13/2004 9:42:36 AM PST by Nick Danger (Time is what keeps everything from happening at once)
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To: CasearianDaoist
The "Fire with Fire" strategy seems to mean that they will win, if past trend are any guide. If the rats get back their full power, no conservative ownership of large media will get by the FCC.

The conservative's "plight" is not slander or libel, the media is merely a conduit for hollow messages. I was joking with my wife this morning, the current media jag is the word "negative." Instead of discussing the actual words in ads, the discussion is "What is 'negative'?," "Who was 'negative' first?" -- really very childish, and useful (conceded, effective) only as propaganda.

Pravda was an open joke in Russia. People joked about it openly in daily, personal interaction -- at the markets, at parties. So, our established media is no different from Pravda. Really, it is no different. So make fun of it. Make a habit to do so in the check-out line.

I think a bigger risk to general freedom is open voting and wealth re-distribution. When a majority of voters can vote cash out of the minority, history shows no example of social survival.

41 posted on 03/13/2004 9:51:49 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: weegee
"This election could be another day when "Americans threw a temper tantrum" by voting Republican"
True! But, sometimes we have to remind Americans what is going on right in front of their passive faces. I think by just counting the stories in your local paper that degrade President Bush and uplift Kerry should be called to task. Don't just give them a number....count the stories..give rebuttal to the ones that make Kerry look good and make your counterpoint.
Oh yea, it wouldnt hurt to email all the talking heads on FOX, MSNBC, CNN (ergh) et all and tell them you want more balanced reporting. I thought I was the only one noticing Fox going south with some of their coverage on Kerry. And I emailed them and called them on it. Ticked me off that they cut away when Bush was giving his speech on the economy in OH last week..and they went to commercial and never went back. I told them I had to go to CNN and see more of the speech..and "How Dare They?" They can't afford to tick off the conservatives..we give them a majority of their ratings. Anyway...another thought. When Reagan was elected, it was from the votes of the Silent Majority. To get Bush re-elected, we need to become the LOUD Majority..and drowned out the left. Our national security and our way of living (economy) depends on it.
Arbee
42 posted on 03/13/2004 9:56:32 AM PST by arbee4bush
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To: Pharmer
Listening to Glen Beck yesterday......

Glen Beck, Hannity, Rush and other talk radio conservatives have a huge audience and are so far doing a really good job of exposing and countering the propaganda and lies of the liberal media.

However, I think more needs to be done, especially by Republicans and the Bush PR teams.

43 posted on 03/13/2004 9:58:23 AM PST by Jorge
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To: CasearianDaoist
So, our established media is no different from Pravda. Really, it is no different. So make fun of it. Make a habit to do so in the check-out line."

I like to use easily verifiable facts to sow doubt about the media's reliability. For example, Martha Stewart was in fact cahrged with insider trading, but it's not reported. The ladies who expressed outrage at the GOP 9/11 ads are members of Peaceful Tomorrow's, and the media knew these people demonstrated against the Iraq war. FR is full of specific examples of media shenanigans. Use the fact to sow doubt about the media in the minds of strangers. Some seeds will take, some won't. But sow, sow sow!

44 posted on 03/13/2004 10:00:18 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
Charles is on now with Tony Snow on Fox. Give em hell Krauthammer!!!
45 posted on 03/13/2004 10:05:55 AM PST by arbee4bush
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To: arbee4bush
Charles is on now with Tony Snow on Fox. Give em hell Krauthammer!!!

While I have strong disagreement with his assessment of Gibson's movie, "The Passion of the Christ," On the point of fighting terrorism, he is right on the money -- meaning, I agree =;*)

46 posted on 03/13/2004 10:11:18 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: CasearianDaoist
Talk radio, Christian talk radio, blogs, FNC, WND, Newsmax and the web, have become our only resourses for getting the truth out. We can cancel our subscriptions, get wealthy people to start new news papers. But it takes time to do this and be effective. Look how long it took FNC to take over the alphabets.

Then again who are you going to hire..85% of media are RATS, marxist, commies or socialist.

Even FNC lets us down as we have seen of late. all hanoi john, all the time. Precious little exposing of his record. Don't for a minute think they don't have several file folders on him.

If FReepers can google up this stuff so can lazy a$$ reporters.

47 posted on 03/13/2004 10:14:06 AM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: Cboldt
Well you are much more optimistic then I am. If Bush wins then we shall know that you are right, and it will be delightful to watch the media implode. If he does notyou may find the you are not so sanguine about the power of the meida in our political lives.

I do find you Pravda metaphor troubling - that was perhaps the most rapacious totalitarian society in history in which they, as you say, "laughed at Pravda." I assure you that they did not dare to laugh out loud, as tens of millions of people confined to the gulag could atest too. They did not laugh at the political police much either. I know I spent some time there during the height of the cold war and no one much had the idea that there was anything too humorous about the "thought control" apparatus in the USSR, of which Pravda was only a minor component.

Socialist regimes tend to require outside forces to be overthrown. When we go, that is really about it for the world.

I should also say that while you are correct is your assessment of other threats such as wealth distribution, etc. it seems on to me to confound a means (e.g. propaganda) with and end (e.g. socialism.)

Again, we shall see. If there ever was a clearer testbed for you proposition this election is it.

48 posted on 03/13/2004 10:19:19 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: GailA
I cannot believe in a time of war we are even considering this jerk. I note that of late they have backed off of the Vietname angle a bit. Perhaps they are aware that someone else has some files at hand.
49 posted on 03/13/2004 10:22:19 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: arbee4bush
Oh I agree with you about raising a stink. This is what got Big Media's attention about the Super Bowl show. And here on FR we were sickened by Kid Rock's poor decision to make an American flag into a poncho by cutting through the middle as well as the nipple piercing and the crotch grabbing. This all happened the day of the game.

It took the media several days to respond to the flag incident.

It's not that the Super Bowl incidents don't matter. I just wish that we could mobilize over the huge hypocrisies in the Kerry coverage. This man is unfit to lead this country (and is a traitor and possibly an unindicted war criminal).

He fully supported the war in Iraq when Bill Clinton was president (incluing going it alone if the UN, France, and Russia were unwilling to authorize force against Saddam Hussein). This man is a political opportunist and cannot be counted on doing the "right" thing.

People think that Albert Gore Junior would have handled 9.12.2001 a whole lot differently. I agree. He would have launched some missiles much sooner than George W. Bush just to show that he wasn't a wimp. Of course hitting empty tents wouldn't have accomplished much but it would have helped to maintain his ratings.

50 posted on 03/13/2004 10:23:56 AM PST by weegee ('...Kerry is like that or so a crack sausage.')
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