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A HUGE VICTORY FOR TERRORISTS
Nealz Nuze ^ | Monday, March 15, 2004 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 03/15/2004 6:07:51 AM PST by beaureguard

This morning on CNN they were asking whether or not the socialist victory in Spain meant the terrorists were winning. Answer: Definitely. Up until the time of the terrorist (apparently Islamic) attack on those trains in Spain the government of Jose Maria Aznar was holding a dominating lead in the polls. Spain's new leader will be Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero. He is pledging to bring Spain's troops home from Iraq. He will also adopt a foreign policy that is decidedly less friendly to the United States than was Aznar. The new Spanish government will align itself with the European Axis of Weasels, Germany, France, Belgium and other appeasement-oriented countries.

There is no doubt that terrorists are going to consider this to be a victory. How could they not? It's a week before a Spanish election. A man who has been bold and eager in his support for President Bush's war against terror and the liberation of Iraq is enjoying a seeming insurmountable lead in the polls. Terrorists attack ... 200 people die ... 1500 are injured ... and the people go to the polls and vote against Anzar. Many voters said that the terrorist attack was payment for Anzar's support of the United States. So that support is going .. and Islamic terrorism wins.

Today, as a result of the Zapatero victory in Spain, the hand of Islamic terrorism is strengthened.

Clearly the terrorists prefer national leaders who will appease them rather than leaders who will try to locate them and kill them. This would mean that the terrorists would much rather see John sKerry win in the United States than President Bush. I know that's a tough pill to swallow for the Democrats ... but the fact is that in this presidential election they are clearly on the same side as the terrorists. Saying it ain't so won't work. You're just going to have to find a way to accept it and live with it

Now ... here's the more sobering question for you to consider. Do these Islamic terrorists think that the same tactic would work in the United States? Would a deadly terrorist attack in this country help them as it did in Spain? Would voters quickly turn against George Bush and put a man more friendly to them in office? Now I'm not saying that this is the way Americans would react. What I am saying is that this might be the way the Islamic terrorists think you would react. If they do, then the danger of another deadly terrorist attack on America has just become more serious.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boortz; election; nealznuze; terrorist

1 posted on 03/15/2004 6:07:51 AM PST by beaureguard
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To: beaureguard
Al Qaeda thought we would fold after 9/11. This is due to the (non)reaction to all the previous terror attacks.

After this political victory, you can be assured they will try it again.
2 posted on 03/15/2004 6:11:12 AM PST by MrB
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To: beaureguard
The Belmont Club talks about how this Spanish election demonstrates the extent to which European Socialists and Islamofacists are joined at the hip.
3 posted on 03/15/2004 6:11:44 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: beaureguard
Cowardice doesn't taste as good come morning.
4 posted on 03/15/2004 6:13:35 AM PST by snooker (Drag a 'botox gigolo' through a swamp, and some dumb gator will always bite.)
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To: billorites
This is a must read. Thanks for the post.
5 posted on 03/15/2004 6:14:36 AM PST by sarasota
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To: beaureguard
bump
6 posted on 03/15/2004 6:16:46 AM PST by expatguy (Subliminal Advertising Executive)
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To: beaureguard
Spaniards are coward
7 posted on 03/15/2004 6:17:06 AM PST by Reader of news
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To: sarasota
Wretchard writes in Belmont Club, "Eurosocialism, by hitching its wagon to the fortunes of militant Islam has put itself at it's mercy. That is the definition of surrender..."
8 posted on 03/15/2004 6:18:23 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: beaureguard
Once again, Neal is right on the money. The appeasers thought they were safe from Hitler, and you see where it got them. We will have to save europe's sorry asses once again. (Sorry for the language, but it best describes my feelings on this subject)
9 posted on 03/15/2004 6:18:30 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: beaureguard
From "El Mundo": la "transfusión roja" del electorado de izquierdas hacia el PSOE " the "red transfussion of the leftist electorate towards the PSOE (socialist party). Those are the anti-war crowd: the socialist, the leftist, the "reds". Please, America, watch and learn! We do not want to make the same mistake in November.

BTW, the first "action" from the socialist president-to-be was to assure the world that the Spanish troops in Iraq will leave as soon as he is inaugurated. What a sad, sad day.

10 posted on 03/15/2004 6:19:05 AM PST by Former Fetus (aren't we all?)
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To: beaureguard
One of the tragedies emerging from the terror attack is that in a reaction to the terror attacks, the Spanish people turned to the SOCIALISTS! Socialism is like alcohol. Whatever problem you have, alcohol makes it worse!
11 posted on 03/15/2004 6:22:08 AM PST by Enterprise ("Do you know who I am?")
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To: beaureguard
Europe is in serious trouble. If they pulled the same thing in Britain I have serious doubts that their electorate wouldn't do the same. We may end up the only major dog in this fight at some point. I think American voters would react differently. We have a little bit of fight in us, according to our history.
12 posted on 03/15/2004 6:23:13 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: beaureguard
One of our fellow posters predicted yesterday that in 20 years the EU will be an Islamicist satelite. Today I'm inclined to put the number at 10.
13 posted on 03/15/2004 6:24:43 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (I could never vote for a guy with a chin like that.)
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To: beaureguard
My name is Inego Montoya. You keeled my people. Prepare to get your way!
14 posted on 03/15/2004 6:27:05 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: beaureguard
Spain to al Qaeda: Please don't hurt us! Please! (PS:Clue to Spain- A socialist infidel is still an infidel)
15 posted on 03/15/2004 6:27:59 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: beaureguard

16 posted on 03/15/2004 6:28:54 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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To: silverleaf
EWW im trying to have breakfast here!
17 posted on 03/15/2004 6:29:37 AM PST by OMalley
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To: beaureguard
Did Turkey's backing down from a fight keep the terrorists off of them? Did Turkey refusing to support us keep the terrorists off of them? No, it just left Turkey without a friend.

Spain has done the same now.
18 posted on 03/15/2004 6:30:10 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: billorites
Thank you for that very interesting link (Belmont Club).
19 posted on 03/15/2004 6:31:26 AM PST by livius
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To: Former Fetus
The socialist president is running with the fear and anxiety. Americans went with bold action against terrorism instead. We're now on opposite sides of the fence.
20 posted on 03/15/2004 6:31:54 AM PST by sarasota
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To: beaureguard
The Madrid bombing definitely influenced the direction of the election in Spain.

Al-Qaeda will definitely try to do something (or many things) to influence the US elections in November.

The al-Qaeda warning that they were 90% ready for a major attack on the US should be taken seriously now.

Kerry seems to fit the al-Qaeda preferences very well. Clinton played the appeasement game for 8 years. The Clinton cut-and-run travesty in Somolia, early on the Clinton watch, just emboldened bin Laden and the direct result was the atrocities of 9-11.

Kerry, based on his voting record, previous speeches and positions, etc., would turn our security over to the UN and reinstall appeasement and placation as our foreign policy.
21 posted on 03/15/2004 6:31:56 AM PST by TomGuy (Kerry is left of liberal.)
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To: Enterprise
But there is a silver lining to this dark cloud: The Polish Allies said that they would send more troops to Iraq when Spain pulls out.

I see that some people see and understand the costs and problems of appeasement and capitulation.

22 posted on 03/15/2004 6:32:02 AM PST by Maigrey (D°°° those Jews for being a part of God's plan to save my eternal soul! - Ann Colture)
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To: Dubya's fan
They hate us also, I'm glad I did not sign any condolence book or send flowers to the embassy. Kiss my Italian American A--! I send them the Bronx salute, I am so livid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23 posted on 03/15/2004 6:32:48 AM PST by angcat
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To: beaureguard
This has to be galling for Spanish men, who generally see themselves as heroic, "Toreador" types. Methinks they will now have to come up with some symbolic gesture (e.g. offering to send a few hundred troops to some other "war on terror" trouble spot) in order to salve their wounded egos.
24 posted on 03/15/2004 6:33:28 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: beaureguard
Amazing that people will not hold terrorists responsible for their terror but instead
chose to hold those who oppose terrorists responsible .....
25 posted on 03/15/2004 6:33:35 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: beaureguard
Amazing that people will not hold terrorists responsible for their terror but instead
chose to hold those who oppose terrorists responsible .....
26 posted on 03/15/2004 6:33:45 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: beaureguard
Spain's Socialist Party prime minister-elect says he will pull troops out of Iraq - unless the UN takes charge.

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"I'd like to see our troops dispersed
through the world only at the directive of the United Nations."
-John Kerry

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"The first thing I will do when I am elected is to go to the United States and support John Kerry"
-New Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luiz Zapatero

27 posted on 03/15/2004 6:35:06 AM PST by Jim_Curtis (Free Milosevic.....Jail Annan)
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To: beaureguard
The real victors in yesterday's Spanish elections are the terrorists responsible for last week's murderous attacks on Madrid's rail system. A likely withdrawal of Spanish troops from Iraq can only embolden Al-Qaida and its ilk to conduct further attacks against the United States and our allies in Iraq.

Imagine what a Kerry victory in November would do to the now-uplifted morale of these terrorists.
28 posted on 03/15/2004 6:35:25 AM PST by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
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To: beaureguard
"That which does not kill me, makes me stronger." -Friedrich Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols.

After Afghanistan many people thought we had engaged and smashed Al Queda. I've read innumerable posts here that seem to think we've reduced Al Queda to a hoplessly damaged and ineffective organization.

While we are 'nation building' (something Bush argued against during the election last time) in Afghanistan and Iraq, Al Queda grows stronger, more effective, elsewhere.

29 posted on 03/15/2004 6:36:56 AM PST by templar
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
One of our fellow posters predicted yesterday that in 20 years the EU will be an Islamicist satelite. Today I'm inclined to put the number at 10.

We have a similar problem that is growing here in the US, but, of course, elected officials are not addressing it.

South America and Mexico has growing Islamic communities and influence. Much of that is coming across our southern border in the hoardes of illegals that arrive hear daily.

We, essentially, have the same problem, just on a lesser scale. Islamics are filtering and flooding in to southern Europe from North Africa and into the US through Mexico.

In 20 years, we'll have the same problems with Islamism as Europe has and will have in the next decade.
30 posted on 03/15/2004 6:37:18 AM PST by TomGuy (Kerry is left of liberal.)
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To: Maigrey
Thank you, brave and noble Poland! Just brace yourself and prepare for the worst.
31 posted on 03/15/2004 6:37:51 AM PST by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
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To: Maigrey
Up the Poles !
32 posted on 03/15/2004 6:45:38 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: beaureguard
311 Suspect Linked to 911 Planner
Madrid Suspect Linked to 9/11 Figure

One of the three Moroccans arrested in the Madrid train bombings was a follower of a suspected al-Qaida member jailed in Spain for allegedly helping plan the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States, according to court documents reviewed by The Associated Press. It was the latest suggestion that Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida terrorist group may have been involved in the bombings.

A Sept. 17, 2003 indictment calls Jamal Zougam — arrested in Thursday's attacks — a "follower" of Imad Yarkas, the alleged leader of Spain's al-Qaida cell who was jailed for allegedly helping plan the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington. Yarkas, whose alias is Abu Dahdah, remains in Spanish custody.
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Spain's El Pais newspaper, citing the interior ministry, reported all three Moroccans have links to Yarkas. Authorities in Morocco said they could not comment on the report.

33 posted on 03/15/2004 6:45:41 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: templar
So what's your point?
34 posted on 03/15/2004 6:46:09 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: silverleaf
GOOD ONE!
35 posted on 03/15/2004 6:47:07 AM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: All
I am not only deeply sorry for what happened in Spain, it goes without saying the fact remains the Spanish folk gave the terrorists of the world a big thumbs up. Spain let the terrorists talk with their deasterdly acts, and that hurts the whole world. If the Western World (because that is what the war is against) does not stand together on the defeat of these cowardly acts...., alone one by one we shall fall.
36 posted on 03/15/2004 6:49:07 AM PST by cousair
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To: TomGuy
Yes, and along the lines you are voicing, the silver lining may be that Kerry will go further down the road of publicly blaming the US... siding with the new Spanish PM... he is on incredibly thin ice.

Let him rant and rave all he wants right now. Then we'll use his words against him while the trial of Saddam is going on this fall, and the American people will be reminded of the brutality of the Saddam regime.
37 posted on 03/15/2004 6:51:06 AM PST by mwl1
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To: All
If elected, John Kerry will run, not walk to the United Nations. He will turn over the soverignity of this country to that body in a New York minute. Make no mistake, the future of the United States hangs in the balance here.
38 posted on 03/15/2004 6:52:57 AM PST by cousair
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To: beaureguard
This is a preview of coming attractions if John F'n Kerry wins the White House in November. If the US decides that appeasement is the best approach to terror, the jig is up.

After hearing for years about how each and every election will be the key to the future of the civilized world, we are now faced with exactly that case. There are two paths before us, and on November 2, 2004, the American people will choose one.

If George W. Bush is elected, we have a chance. We will be in for a long, bloody struggle with an uncertain result. But if we fight and strive and oppose the Jihad whenever and wherever possible, we may just be able to save the World from the next Dark Age.

If John F'n Kerry is elected, we will withdraw. We will throw our friends to the sharks in the hope that we will be eaten last. We will avoid conflict with Jihad, make temporary peace whenever possible, and we will inevitably give up our World and our way of life, bit by bloody bit. Our children's children will live under the heel of the theocratic tyrant.

This is the choice. It could not be more clear.

39 posted on 03/15/2004 6:57:47 AM PST by bondjamesbond (November 2, 2004 will decide the fate of the World)
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To: tbpiper
So what's your point?

That perhaps we should precisely define and engage the enemy instead of making oblique attacks that end up making the enemy stronger, more powerful.

41 posted on 03/15/2004 7:03:21 AM PST by templar
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To: beaureguard
"STAND STRONG AMERICA, STAND YOUR GROUND AND NEVER BACK DOWN"
42 posted on 03/15/2004 7:16:06 AM PST by JamesA (Stand up, stand together or die as one.)
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To: beaureguard
Given the European drift into secular stagnation, coupled with the increasing Hispanic presence in our nation, I have to wonder if the US will become less concerned about Europe, and more focused on Latin America.

-- Joe
43 posted on 03/15/2004 7:18:11 AM PST by Joe Republc
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To: sarasota
The socialist president is running with the fear and anxiety.

Not really. We should be careful in labeling the Spanish people as cowards, which they are not. They have simply made a very bad decision based on emotions.

Zapatero and his new administration are already saying that they will be tough on terror. But here's where the divergence comes, and this is exactly what Kerry and the dems will be doing here:

The socialists say that they will be tough on the real terrorists, and they will do what will really reduce terror, implying that Bush and Blair and Aznar going to Iraq had nothing to do with the real terrorists, and that all we are doing now is misguided or for ulterior motives. Watch Kerry to come out swinging with "If you elect me, I'll do what will really make us safer, not what the 'blood-for-oil Halliburton PNAC neocons' are doing to inflame America's allies and blunder unilaterally into unrelated, unjustified wars."

In other words, Kerry will run to the UN and apologize, run to France, Germany and Belgium and apologize, and then do everything possible to disengage US policy from Israel and make us the neutral, middle of the road superwimp that benevolently hands out food and AIDS money but takes no position on others' affairs. I only hope that enough of us have our head screwed on clearly come November to prevent the ketchup appeaser from coming to power.

44 posted on 03/15/2004 8:12:09 AM PST by Sender ("This is the most important election in the history of the world." -DU)
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To: Sender
Also, inevitably look for Kerry to round up a couple of "mothers of sons killed in Iraq" to parade for the TV cameras.

Mothers funded by the Tides Foundation or MoveOn, who will tearfully implore "Why did George W Bush kill my son? And for nothing! We had no business in Iraq. It's all about oil! Boo hoo hoo hoooooo!"

45 posted on 03/15/2004 8:32:00 AM PST by Sender ("This is the most important election in the history of the world." -DU)
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To: templar
oblique attacks that end up making the enemy stronger, more powerful

I think you're completely wrong in your evaluation of the enemy. This is the first major attack on a western nation since the twin towers and it was nowhere near a deadly. They have been considerably weakened. They will run and morph and we will continue to hunt and kill. Our 'oblique' attacks have kept them off balance having denied them two countries in which to train.

If one were to take a narrow view of the battle of the buldge, one might think the Nazis had grown stronger and more powerful.

We are in a long fight that will have its ebbs and flows and it will be one by the side with the most determination.

How would precisely define the enemy? Is radical/militant islam too vague for you? How would you engage and enemy that runs and morphs?

46 posted on 03/15/2004 9:56:19 AM PST by tbpiper
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