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NBC: Clinton Ordered Bin Laden Spared
Newsmax ^ | 3/16/04 | Limbacher

Posted on 03/16/2004 7:23:32 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

A secret CIA videotape shows that the Clinton administration had pinpointed the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden a year before the 9/11 attacks, but declined to kill him because of White House orders that he should be taken alive.

The video, obtained and broadcast by NBC News, "illustrates an enormous opportunity the Clinton administration had to kill or capture bin Laden," the network reported Tuesday.

Images filmed in Afghanistan by CIA Predator Drones show a man clad in white robes who towers over his entourage. [Bin Laden is 6' 5" tall.]

The film was shot over Tarnak Farm, the walled compound where bin Laden was believed to live at the time. The layout of the buildings in the Predator video perfectly matches previous photos and diagrams of Tarnak Farm prepared by U.S. intelligence.

The clip left CIA analysts convinced they had located the man who in 1998 had bombed U.S. embassies in East Africa and whose agents, four years earlier, had detonated a bomb in the parking garage of the World Trade Center.

"It’s dynamite. It’s putting together all of the pieces, and that doesn’t happen every day," said William Arkin, a former intelligence officer and now military analyst for NBC.

Though President Clinton has boasted repeatedly that he issued orders to kill bin Laden, no action was taken when the White House finally got its chance.

Why not?

Gary Schroen, a former CIA station chief in Pakistan, told NBC that the White House had in fact ordered the CIA to do just the opposite - take bin Laden alive or not at all.

The order "reduced the odds from, say, a 50 percent chance down to, say, 25 percent chance that we were going to be able to get him,” Schroen told the network.

The directive effectively killed the plan and, along with it, the U.S.'s best chance to prevent the 9/11 attacks.



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; bin8laden; cia; clinton; clintonfailures; clintonlegacy; clintonoblbungle; missedopportunity; nbc; oblvideotape; sept11; videotape; x42
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1 posted on 03/16/2004 7:23:33 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
President Clinton, like most Presidents since the intelligence investigations of the 1970's, were terrified of having foreign enemies killed. It is amazingly namby-pamby in my view. 9/11 changed all that.
2 posted on 03/16/2004 7:25:24 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Yikes. I can't even imagine the implications politically if this turns out to be true.

3 posted on 03/16/2004 7:25:44 PM PST by HarryCaul
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Am I dreaming? Did NBC really report this?
5 posted on 03/16/2004 7:27:07 PM PST by ladyinred (democrats have blood on their hands!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

PARTIAL LIST OF TERRORIST ACTIVITIES

1968 Robert Kennedy assassinated
1972 Munich Olympic Massacure Sep-5,1972 (Black September)
1976 Entebbe Hostage Crisis, June 27, 1976
1979 Iran Hostage Crisis, Nov. 4, 1979 444 days
1979 Grand Mosque Seizure, Nov 20,1979
1981 Assassination of Egyptian President, Oct 6,1981
1982 Assassination of Lebanese Prime Minister, Sept 14, 1982
1983 Bombing of US Embassy in Beirut6, April 18,1983
1983 Bombing of Maring Barricks, Beruit, Oct 23,1983
1984 Hizballah Restaurant Bombing, April 12,1984
1985 Egyptian Airliner Hijacking, Nov 23,1985
1985 Rome Airport murders
1985 TWA Flight 847 hijacked, U.S. Navy diver murdered
1985 Achille Lauro hijacking, Homacidal maniac lived in saddams Iraq
1986 Aircraft Bombing in Greece, March 30, 1986
1988 Pan Am 747 Flight 103 Bombing, Lockerbie, 100's murdered
1988 Berlin Discoteque Bombing, Dec 21,1988
1992 Bombing in Israeli Embassy in Argentina, March 17,1992
1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr., April 14,1993
1993 First World Trade Center bombing, February 26th, 7 Killed, Hundreds injured, Billions
1994 Air France Hijacking, Dec 24,1994
1995 Attack on US Diplomats in Pakistan, Mar 8,1995
1995 Saudi Military Installation Attack, Nov 13, 1995
1995 Kashmiri Hostage taking, July 4,1995
1996 Khobar Towers attack
1996 Sudanese Missionarys Kidnapping, Aug 17,1996
1996 Paris Subway Explosion, Dec 3,1996
1997 Israeli Shopping Mall Bombing, Sept 4, 1997
1997 Yemeni Kidnappings, Oct 30,1997
1998 Somali Hostage taking crisis, April 15,1998
1998 U.S. Embassy Bombing in Peru, Jan 15, 1998
1998 U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1998 U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1999 Plot to blow up Space Needle (thwarted)
2000 USS Cole attacked, many U.S. Navy sailors murdered
2000-2003 Intifada against Israel - 100's dead and injured
2000 Manila Bombing, Dec 30,2000
2001 4 Commercial airliners hijacked, 250+ murdered
2001 World Trade Center attacked, 2800+ murdered
2001 Flight 93 murders
2001 Pentagon attacked, 180+ murdered
2002 Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and murdered
2002 Philippines American missionary, Filipino nurse killed
2002 July 4, El Al attack Los Angeles LAX, several murdered
2002 Bali bombing - 200 dead, 300 injured
2002 Yemen, French Oil Tanker attacked
2002 Marines attacked / murdered in Kuwait
2002 Washington D.C. sniper
2002 Russian Theater attacked, 100+ dead
2002 Nigerian riots against Miss World Pageant, 200 dead, dozens injured
2002 Mombasa Hotel Attacked, 12 dead, dozens injured
2002 Israeli Boeing 757 attacked by missiles, fortunately no one injured
2002 August Hotel bombing in Jakarta, Indonesia. 12 dead, dozens injured.
2003 Rusian concert bombing
2003 Phillipines airport and market bombing
2003 Foiled SAM plot in the USA
2003 UN Baghdad HQ Bombing


6 posted on 03/16/2004 7:27:12 PM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: HarryCaul
Yikes. I can't even imagine the implications politically if this turns out to be true.

A big yawn from half the country?

7 posted on 03/16/2004 7:27:22 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: HarryCaul
Seeing how clinton is a democrat, this will amount to very little.

Though I would be pleasantly surprised if it did amount to something.
8 posted on 03/16/2004 7:27:37 PM PST by new cruelty
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
well, well, well
9 posted on 03/16/2004 7:27:38 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Bush in a romp.)
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To: HarryCaul
if? it is true, but the media will spin it as something else and it will be a 2 day story.

if the Rs had any guts, they would replay the exact Lisa Yyers report during the televised questioning of Clinton by the 9/11 commission.
10 posted on 03/16/2004 7:28:01 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
So the truth may finally come out. BUMP!!
11 posted on 03/16/2004 7:28:16 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The blood of 3000 innocent Americans is on the hands of those who decided to pass on the opportunity to take him out. It's that simple.
12 posted on 03/16/2004 7:28:20 PM PST by The G Man (John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheney '04.)
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To: HarryCaul
And the clintoon just endorsed fellow demoCommiecRAT, kerry(All these creeps not capitolised on purpose)!!!!
13 posted on 03/16/2004 7:28:45 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: oceanview
Yyers = Myers
14 posted on 03/16/2004 7:28:51 PM PST by oceanview
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What did Kerry know about this and when did he know it?


15 posted on 03/16/2004 7:29:29 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Democrats are the real asses of evil.)
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To: ladyinred
not sure if they replay Scarborugh Country, tape it if you can find it, its worth watching. and the DNC may be sending people out to burn the tape of this segment.
16 posted on 03/16/2004 7:30:18 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; Howlin; Liz; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog
A secret CIA videotape shows that the Clinton administration had pinpointed the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden a year before the 9/11 attacks...

I bet we find ABL in the same place Hillary found those lost Rose law firm billing records...

17 posted on 03/16/2004 7:30:24 PM PST by Libloather (If Hillary says something, it must be true...)
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To: Keith in Iowa

18 posted on 03/16/2004 7:31:03 PM PST by The G Man (John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheney '04.)
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To: Keith in Iowa
#15. Appropriate Question!!!! Thanks for posting it. And it definitely needs to be answered!!!!
19 posted on 03/16/2004 7:31:09 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: ladyinred
It's even on their web site!!!!

msnbcwebsite

20 posted on 03/16/2004 7:31:17 PM PST by byteback
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Related thread here:

Osama bin Laden: missed opportunities [CIA had video of him in fall of 2000 by Lisa Myers, NBC

21 posted on 03/16/2004 7:31:18 PM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John Fin al-Qerry)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Image from "spy tape"....

Source: MSNBC

22 posted on 03/16/2004 7:32:13 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: ladyinred
Wow! Scaraborough just played Lisa Meyer's and NBCs exclusive video of a Predator drone tracking OBL in 2000. It was clear from the video that it was a high level AQ meeting with the leader (OBL) obviously present at the time. Although NBC did ask the question, "did Clinton let OBL slip away," they still had to throw in if Clinton, being hampered by scandal, prevented him from acting. It never seemed to hamper him in the past. It's about time they released this information that many have known about for some time.
23 posted on 03/16/2004 7:32:37 PM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only person who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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To: Zack Nguyen
Yes... we must not forget that Ron (the best Prez of my lifetime) turned tail in Beirut as well.

In a way, the Islamofascists did America a great favor on 9.11.2001.

It FORCED US from our slumber.... it could have continued to smoldered another decade, until a Nuke was detonated in NYC.

24 posted on 03/16/2004 7:32:39 PM PST by BikePacker
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To: Zack Nguyen
President Clinton, like most Presidents since the intelligence investigations of the 1970's, were terrified of having foreign enemies killed.

Reagan took a pretty good shot at the head of Ghaddafi.

Just missed him too, and took out a few members of his family.

It knocked him back into his box for a lot of years.

25 posted on 03/16/2004 7:33:34 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

26 posted on 03/16/2004 7:34:31 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection (www.whatyoucrave.com)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Apparently we have lost the concept of 'new' in the term 'news'. Sad to say, but this is old information. Amazing that the bulk of the public through their own dissonance is somehow startled to learn this...
27 posted on 03/16/2004 7:34:39 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: oceanview
I think it is replayed, I will check it out, thanks.
28 posted on 03/16/2004 7:34:58 PM PST by ladyinred (democrats have blood on their hands!)
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To: dead
#25. Good points, dead!!!!
29 posted on 03/16/2004 7:34:59 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Think this is in the committee that is studying the break down??? Sounds like a major break down was a president who was PLAYING at being president and had no clue what to do!!!!! The only head that he has that works was being intertained by Monica.
30 posted on 03/16/2004 7:35:02 PM PST by Jewels1091
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To: cwb
" if Clinton, being hampered by scandal, prevented him from acting."

Ask the people who died in the missle strikes he ordered during the impeachment.

31 posted on 03/16/2004 7:35:24 PM PST by HarryCaul
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To: ladyinred
" Am I dreaming? Did NBC really report this?"

I only saw it on MSNBC, but, they usually replay the segments shown earlier on NBC. The tape is jaw dropping.
Besides the video of Al Queda training, there were videos of Osama.
You can clearly see a tall man, wearing white robes, in the center of a large group of terrorists.
This was at an isolated, known AQ compound-which could have easily been vaporized, if Clinton had ordered in a strike. This was not in the middle of a crowded city.
Osama and his band were sitting ducks, ready for take down and Clinton passed, because it was too close to the election.

32 posted on 03/16/2004 7:35:44 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Talk about an Intelligence Failure!!!
33 posted on 03/16/2004 7:36:18 PM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG - ret)
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To: The G Man
I'd be delighted to see OBL dead, then or now. But IMO it's far from clear that his death prior to 9/11 (as a result of action by either Administration) would have prevented the WTC attacks - just as it's unlikely that his death tomorrow would cripple the various Islamic militant movements.
34 posted on 03/16/2004 7:36:27 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros on the end.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
LEGIBILE FONT:


A secret CIA videotape shows that the Clinton administration had pinpointed the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden a year before the 9/11 attacks, but declined to kill him because of White House orders that he should be taken alive.

The video, obtained and broadcast by NBC News, "illustrates an enormous opportunity the Clinton administration had to kill or capture bin Laden," the network reported Tuesday.

Images filmed in Afghanistan by CIA Predator Drones show a man clad in white robes who towers over his entourage. [Bin Laden is 6' 5" tall.]

The film was shot over Tarnak Farm, the walled compound where bin Laden was believed to live at the time. The layout of the buildings in the Predator video perfectly matches previous photos and diagrams of Tarnak Farm prepared by U.S. intelligence.

The clip left CIA analysts convinced they had located the man who in 1998 had bombed U.S. embassies in East Africa and whose agents, four years earlier, had detonated a bomb in the parking garage of the World Trade Center.

"It’s dynamite. It’s putting together all of the pieces, and that doesn’t happen every day," said William Arkin, a former intelligence officer and now military analyst for NBC.

Though President Clinton has boasted repeatedly that he issued orders to kill bin Laden, no action was taken when the White House finally got its chance.

Why not?

Gary Schroen, a former CIA station chief in Pakistan, told NBC that the White House had in fact ordered the CIA to do just the opposite - take bin Laden alive or not at all.

The order "reduced the odds from, say, a 50 percent chance down to, say, 25 percent chance that we were going to be able to get him,” Schroen told the network.

The directive effectively killed the plan and, along with it, the U.S.'s best chance to prevent the 9/11 attacks.
35 posted on 03/16/2004 7:37:59 PM PST by Petronski (Kerry knew...and did nothing. THAT....is weakness.)
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To: Jewels1091
Was thinking along the same lines....The problem was the lack of intelligence IN the White House, not given to the White House.
36 posted on 03/16/2004 7:38:21 PM PST by hoosiermama (Ask Kerry to list the major pieces of enacted legislation he has authored in his career.)
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To: ladyinred
NBC must think that this is good for Clinton, that he did not kill him out right or...the world is comming to an end and NBC is seeing the light ....... hmmmmmm
37 posted on 03/16/2004 7:38:35 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Libloather
Clinton Comes Out Swinging for Kerry
38 posted on 03/16/2004 7:38:58 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection (www.whatyoucrave.com)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
There is a real power struggle going on in the Dem party. This is about getting Hillary etal out of power. I'd bet this story had Kerry's approval before NBC would run it.
39 posted on 03/16/2004 7:39:00 PM PST by kjam22
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Legacy.....
40 posted on 03/16/2004 7:39:06 PM PST by faithincowboys (Go to www.punditstar.blogspot.com)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
BUMP!!!
41 posted on 03/16/2004 7:40:16 PM PST by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: Irish Eyes
Check out reply #39. Possible?
42 posted on 03/16/2004 7:40:42 PM PST by ladyinred (democrats have blood on their hands!)
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To: dead; All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1099223/posts

Nine of the Creeps who plotted against the U.S.S. Cole have been captured!!!! The link above.
43 posted on 03/16/2004 7:41:08 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Diogenesis
The Clintons will skate in this life, but they'll be judged by God for this.

Never Forget!
44 posted on 03/16/2004 7:41:17 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Though President Clinton has boasted repeatedly that he issued orders to kill bin Laden, no action was taken when the White House finally got its chance. Why not?

Because he lied about his boasts.

-PJ

45 posted on 03/16/2004 7:41:46 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
waiting to see how this ultimately turns out to be Bush's fault.
46 posted on 03/16/2004 7:42:23 PM PST by Samwise (I am going to need to be sedated before this election is over.)
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To: HarryCaul
Yikes. I can't even imagine the implications politically if this turns out to be true.

The implications politically are precisely zero.

Paula Jones nailed it when she said about Clinton, "He gets away with everything."

47 posted on 03/16/2004 7:44:55 PM PST by M. Thatcher (.)
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To: Petronski
Clintons Help Kerry Try to Raise $1 Million a Day
48 posted on 03/16/2004 7:45:37 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection (www.whatyoucrave.com)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Interesting that this surfaces now.

Is this Bush taking an issue off the table for Kerry, or an internal Dem battle?
49 posted on 03/16/2004 7:46:22 PM PST by Tangerine Time Machine (Orange you glad it's not a lemon?)
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To: HarryCaul
Exactly! Hell, it was in the middle of the Monica scandal...during her first week before the grand jury, that he launched the attacks on Afghanistan and Sudan. Fact is, a CLinton response would've been par for the course and more consistent with what he'd been doing for months. And even at this point, his term was winding down. Sorry, Lisa, this excuse doesn't work any longer.
50 posted on 03/16/2004 7:47:07 PM PST by cwb (Kerry: The only person who could make Bill Clinton look like a moderate)
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