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Iranian Alert -- March 17, 2004 [EST]-- IRAN LIVE THREAD -- Americans for Regime Change in Iran
The Iranian Student Movement Up To The Minute Reports ^ | 3.17.2004 | DoctorZin

Posted on 03/16/2004 9:01:41 PM PST by DoctorZIn

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To: DoctorZIn
Fight my brothers and sisters, fight for your freedom and raise your voice to be heard.
51 posted on 03/16/2004 11:08:36 PM PST by Trueblackman (My lastest bumper sticker..."Support terrorism, Vote Democrat in 04.")
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To: Khashayar
What are the Persian websites reporting?
52 posted on 03/16/2004 11:08:49 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: King Prout
I think you are exactly right.
53 posted on 03/16/2004 11:09:17 PM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: DoctorZIn
Anti-Regime Violence Erupting in Iran As Crowds Burn Pictures of Khamenei

New York Sun - By Eli Lake
Mar 17, 2004

WASHINGTON—Iranians reportedly took to the streets in protest of their government last night as a Persian fire ritual in Tehran turned into a pretext for anti-regime violence.

The Iranian Student News Agency, a wire service affiliated with the government there, reported yesterday that explosions could be heard throughout the city after celebrations of a pre-Islamic feast in Iran known as Chaharshambeh Soori turned violent.

According to KRSI, an exile radio station based in California, a crowd of people in Iran’s capital began kindling fires for the holiday with pictures of Iran’s supreme ruler, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, in front of the headquarters of the Sepah Pasdaran, the state’s security service. In some clashes in Tehran neighborhoods, KRSI reported from eyewitnesses calling the station on cell phones, crowds of demonstrators threw homemade explosives at the feet of anti-riot police and set patrol cars ablaze.

The Iranian Student News Agency said 44 police garrisons and 60 ambulances had been readied in response to the angry crowds.

Last month, Iran’s unelected Guardian Council disqualified more than 2,000 reformist candidates from running for election to the country’s legislative body, known as the Majlis. The decision led many legislators willing to work within the system to begin to question the utility of pushing for liberal reform, which has been stymied by the country’s clerical elites.

Since the Islamic revolution in 1979, the celebration of Persian holidays such as Chaharshambeh Soori and the New Year festival of Nowruz has been discouraged and at times banned by the Iranian authorities.

Tehran’s police angered the country’s hard-liners by cordoning off 40 areas of the city this year to observe the holiday, where people traditionally jump over bonfires and set small bushes on fire to mark the last Wednesday of the Persian year. But the decision was not without controversy, as the holiday this year fell in the same Islamic month that Imam Hussein was martyred, a period Iran’s ruling clerics said should be marked without gaiety.

“In all Iranian cities without exception, Iranians celebrated this tradition even when they were attacked by plainclothed officers of the regime,” a spokesman in America for the Student Movement Coordination Committee for Democracy in Iran, Aryo Pirooznia, told The New York Sun yesterday.“They resisted fiercely by using the materials used in celebration of the fire feast.”

Mr. Pirooznia said he had received more than two-dozen witness reports yesterday of demonstrators clashing with the government in Tehran alone. He said that some violent demonstrators had devised explosives from yellow and white powder wrapped in cardboard.

“The authorities started to charge in neighborhoods of Sarsabil, Sadeghieh and Shahrak Gharb,” he said. “The celebrations turned into demonstrations, with chanting, dancing, and booing and cursing at the security forces sent there. The crowds started to throw pictures of Ayatollah Khamenei into the fire.”

The Iranian Student News Agency reported eight people were seriously injured. The agency also reported that 20 people were taken to the emergency room of Motahari and 50 people were taken to the Towhid hospital in the Tehran metropolitan area. Cab drivers, the news agency said, were volunteering to take injured citizens to hospitals free of charge. The Associated Press and CNN did not report anti-regime violence yesterday.

“It is our view that the human-rights situation in Iran has been taking a turn for the worse,” a State Department official told the Sun yesterday. “On the whole it would seem Iran is less democratic now than it was three to four years ago. We take domestic developments in Iran very seriously and we will be talking to other countries that do have diplomatic representation in Iran to find out about these reports.”

The State Department was particularly critical last month of the elections to the Majlis. More recently, Secretary of State Powell has criticized the Iranian regime for threatening to end cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency, after pledging to allow unannounced inspections in the fall.

The IAEA has recently disclosed that Iran’s nuclear energy program was almost definitely a cover for weapons research, a position shared by the American intelligence community.

The president of the Washington based International Center on Nonviolent Conflict, Jack DuVall, said the violent demonstrations in Tehran were a troubling development. “If the regime is authoritarian any domestic violence reinforces the regime’s position because ultimately their power derives from their armed defenders.When violence occurs in the public space those defenders do reflexively what they are hired and expected to do and that reinforces both the authority as well as the control mechanisms of the regime.”

Mr.DuVall was the executive producer of “A Force More Powerful,” a documentary on the history of nonviolent conflict in the 20th century that has ended up in the hands of Iranian activists.

Chaharshambeh Soori celebrations are expected to continue today in the run-up to Nowruz festivities this weekend.

http://www.daneshjoo.org/generalnews/article/publish/article_5381.shtml
54 posted on 03/16/2004 11:11:02 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Anti-Regime Violence Erupting in Iran As Crowds Burn Pictures of Khamenei

New York Sun - By Eli Lake
Mar 17, 2004

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1099368/posts?page=54#54
55 posted on 03/16/2004 11:11:47 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn
They were reporting of clashes between people in Iran, ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY.
56 posted on 03/16/2004 11:13:52 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: Khashayar
Absolutely Khashayar.. how very wonderful you are "here" & sharing with us.. and your English is wonderful
57 posted on 03/16/2004 11:15:18 PM PST by DollyCali ("Trying to keep the Freepers pulling in the same direction is like trying to herd cats." Richard Poe)
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To: DollyCali
yours, on the other hand, puts mine to shame
58 posted on 03/16/2004 11:16:47 PM PST by King Prout (You may disagree with what I have to say... but I will defend to YOUR death MY right to say it.)
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To: DollyCali
Thanks. We Love America and Americans. Believe it or not, majority of us here love you very much.
59 posted on 03/16/2004 11:17:00 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: McGavin999
or, as my gramps once answered when asked about his newborn child "Is it a boy or a girl?"

"Probably."

;)
60 posted on 03/16/2004 11:18:49 PM PST by King Prout (You may disagree with what I have to say... but I will defend to YOUR death MY right to say it.)
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To: Khashayar
Do they know how much we are behind them?
61 posted on 03/16/2004 11:19:40 PM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: Khashayar
Thanks. We Love America and Americans. Believe it or not, majority of us here love you very much.

those of us who keep track of things with an honest heart know this well.

62 posted on 03/16/2004 11:20:04 PM PST by King Prout (You may disagree with what I have to say... but I will defend to YOUR death MY right to say it.)
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To: McGavin999; DoctorZIn
Yes and we know that only the USA cares about us in this planet. America is our only hope.
63 posted on 03/16/2004 11:21:08 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: Khashayar
Dear Khashayar, there are over a million Iranian exiles in the Los Angeles area alone. If the ones eligible to vote backed President Bush, they could win California for him. If he won California, it would be a landslide victory. My husband was born in Iran and President Bush's strong stance on the war on terror and against the mullahs make him the overwhelming choice for our votes. I'm sure most Iranian-Americans feel the same way.

I'm just curious. Do you ever see the Iranian-exile TV broadcasts produced out of California and beamed on sattilite? Do they have any influence in Iran?
64 posted on 03/16/2004 11:22:08 PM PST by SusanTK
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To: Khashayar
and yourselves... and yourselves.
without you, we could do nothing but weep.
65 posted on 03/16/2004 11:22:39 PM PST by King Prout (You may disagree with what I have to say... but I will defend to YOUR death MY right to say it.)
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To: SusanTK
Thanks and nice to talk to you over here.
We count on Bush in 2004 election and please vote for him, that is really important for us here.
I used to watch satellite TV stations beamed to Iran while ago and they have influence in Iran as well.
66 posted on 03/16/2004 11:24:24 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: Khashayar
Khashayar.. I tell you I have a heavy heart. I am much older than you are...and a very good friend of mine - since we were 9 years old - and I are estranged over politics.

He after college & graduate school went into the peace corps. He was in Iran for 8 years. Married a wonderful Iranian woman & they have 3 smart & gorgeous children. They live in Boston.

He is very liberal & hates Bush & hates what the USA is doing in Iraq & ..well, I could go on & on. Most of us here posting now, have friends like that.

It is so good for me to see you here as a young student & the future of your country.. why maybe the president someday of a free country.. wouldn't that be great?

I am sorry, I am blubbering off subject I know doc Z is interested in all the facts.. me too.. but the human side is so impt.

and also.. I recommended amovie to doc Z.. you prolly wont get it in your country.. It is powerful. In an arabic dialect w/subtitles...... a beautiful but sad tale which I am sure is similar to what is happening in your country.

well, I tell you what. When you become president there.. we will come visit you & bring the movie & we will all enjoy it, lift a glass of "adult beverage" in celebration & thank God for the blessings for your people.

I pray for the people in the mideast daily....God's creations under such awful circumstances. We are so blessed in our country. and most of the people do NOT appreciate it.

/rant
67 posted on 03/16/2004 11:24:39 PM PST by DollyCali ("Trying to keep the Freepers pulling in the same direction is like trying to herd cats." Richard Poe)
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To: SusanTK
Hi Susan.. after posting what I did to K.. I wish I could link you & my "friend" Larry up.. is your hubby of the same mentality?
68 posted on 03/16/2004 11:26:28 PM PST by DollyCali ("Trying to keep the Freepers pulling in the same direction is like trying to herd cats." Richard Poe)
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To: DollyCali
Thanks for your sentiments and we need your help to fight this regime and become your true ally in Middle East again.
69 posted on 03/16/2004 11:27:39 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: King Prout
(blush).. thanks. naw.. I am just learning HTML.. a novice.. but a photo junkie.. about 100 gig on hard drive..

well, that is for another day/another time... back to Iran
70 posted on 03/16/2004 11:28:49 PM PST by DollyCali ("Trying to keep the Freepers pulling in the same direction is like trying to herd cats." Richard Poe)
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To: Khashayar
I just read an article posted to this site that claims Khomeini, the so-called father of the Islamic Republic, wasn't Persian but was the son of a Kashmiri woman and a British father. Have you heard any rumors to that effect? The article said that Khomeini had invented a fake background for himself and wasn't an authentic Ayatollah. Quite a bomb shell if true. I noticed that alot of Iranians are very resentful of the British and heard more than one say that Khomeini and the revolution were backed by the British. I never really understood their disdain for the British as it seemed to me that they had nothing to gain from the toppling of the Shah.
71 posted on 03/16/2004 11:34:45 PM PST by SusanTK
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To: Khashayar
Thanks for the news Khashayar. It's really difficult to get information out of Iran right now. Right now you're the best source we have.
72 posted on 03/16/2004 11:39:06 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: SusanTK
You are right. Khomeini had an Indian root. Remember that Black turban mullahs have Arabic ancestors.
And it is a long story why we blame British.
73 posted on 03/16/2004 11:41:37 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: MattAMiller
You are most welcome.
74 posted on 03/16/2004 11:42:50 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: DollyCali
Dear Dolly, my husband is as conservative Republican as you can get. He's an entrepreneur businessman and has little use for liberal ideology. There are a few Iranian liberals in the US(my brother-in-law is one of them) and I suspect that they were probably communists before the revolution. Alot of those student demonstrators during the revolution were Marxists and Khomeini used them until he got into power and then quickly had them squashed. But, most Iranian-Americans are fairly conservative politically and in the way they live their lives.
75 posted on 03/16/2004 11:43:54 PM PST by SusanTK
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To: SusanTK
You seem to be very smart. Nice talking to you here.
76 posted on 03/16/2004 11:48:46 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: SusanTK
I dont completely understnad the politics of Shemeran (Larry's wife).. but she is a Christian & Larry a Bahi (past 10 years.. former orthodox catholic) - I have a feeling she does not share his political views.. but again we are estranged & I don't know

Good for you both.. in all ways...
77 posted on 03/16/2004 11:49:41 PM PST by DollyCali ("Trying to keep the Freepers pulling in the same direction is like trying to herd cats." Richard Poe)
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To: Khashayar
need to say goodnight & God bless & protect you..

The snow shovel first & my bed second calls...

78 posted on 03/16/2004 11:57:19 PM PST by DollyCali ("Trying to keep the Freepers pulling in the same direction is like trying to herd cats." Richard Poe)
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To: Khashayar
Thank you, but you are the smart one - chatting on line in a foreign language with us. My husband and I and our four kids went to Iran in 2002 and it was an awesome experience. I love the Persian people and I pray for your safety and success in your aspiration for freedom. If the mullahs fall, Iran will be an awesome ally for the Americans. What do you think? Could this be it? Are we going to see regime change in Iran soon? I sure hope and pray so. What do the Iranian people need from the U.S. to accomplish this goal?
79 posted on 03/16/2004 11:57:57 PM PST by SusanTK
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To: DollyCali
My husband's best friend is a Bahai and is also a Republican and supporter of Bush. Poor guy can't even think about visiting Iran. It's too dangerous for Bahais. He can't even visit his Mom's grave, since the regime dug it up and he has no idea what happened to her body. Pretty despicable, don't you think?
80 posted on 03/17/2004 12:03:17 AM PST by SusanTK
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To: DoctorZIn
Dr. Z,

I have been following your dedication to the Iranian cause here on FR over the months now. Thanks for all you are doing. With out you this would have passed me by I am sure.
Time will tell if tonight we are on the cusp of history. I hope we are. Even if this is one of many battles before the overthrow of the Mullahs it is at the very least a quantum shift in the revolution. From the reports that I have seen tonight, defiance is open and the lines are much more clearly drawn.
I pray for success for those who fight for freedom in Iran. When they fight for freedom so intensely they are our brothers indeed.
Thanks again and keep up the good work.

81 posted on 03/17/2004 12:10:43 AM PST by Solar Wind
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To: SusanTK
Thank you, but you are the smart one - chatting on line in a foreign language with us. My husband and I and our four kids went to Iran in 2002 and it was an awesome experience. I love the Persian people and I pray for your safety and success in your aspiration for freedom. If the mullahs fall, Iran will be an awesome ally for the Americans. What do you think? Could this be it? Are we going to see regime change in Iran soon? I sure hope and pray so. What do the Iranian people need from the U.S. to accomplish this goal?

Thanks for your comments. Iran will soon be a real US ally in the world once again and Mullahs will soon fall, I am sure of it. We need the USA to support us mentally and press on the Mullahs to free Iran.

82 posted on 03/17/2004 12:22:42 AM PST by Khashayar
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To: Khashayar
May freedom be won in Iran.
83 posted on 03/17/2004 12:25:56 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Khashayar
Well, it's past my bedtime. I hope we can chat again soon. Stay safe and know that we, Americans, are on your side and praying for you.
84 posted on 03/17/2004 12:27:35 AM PST by SusanTK
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To: Khashayar
Hi, What do you think of Iran's Nuke plans?
85 posted on 03/17/2004 12:31:37 AM PST by F14 Pilot
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To: F14 Pilot
Hi back at you. Well, I think IT IS DANGEROUS and MUST BE STOPPED.
86 posted on 03/17/2004 12:36:12 AM PST by Khashayar
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To: Khashayar
If the US were to push for UN sanctions on the basis of Nuke violations, would this hasten the downfall of the current regime?

Or just end up hurting the Iranian people?
87 posted on 03/17/2004 12:39:52 AM PST by rickylc
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To: rickylc
It might hurt the people of Iran as well.
88 posted on 03/17/2004 12:43:57 AM PST by Khashayar
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To: Khashayar
Well, Better go for now.
89 posted on 03/17/2004 1:05:19 AM PST by Khashayar
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To: DoctorZIn
Bush meeting with U-N nuclear chief amid new standoff with Iran

March 16, 2004
KFOR News

White House-AP -- President Bush meets with the U-N's nuclear chief today amid new worries over Iran's nuclear program.

After a critical report from the U-N agency, Tehran suspended inspections of its facilities. That move has been denounced by the Bush administration, which thinks the Iranians are trying to build a bomb. A State Department spokesman says Tehran continues "a pattern of delay and deception and denial."

However, Mohamed ElBaradei (ehl-BEHR'-uh-day) -- head of the International Atomic Energy Agency -- says he thinks the Iranians know they have to come clean.

Also today, Bush is meeting with Ireland's prime minister, Bertie Ahern, to mark St. Patrick's Day. The two are expected to discuss an upcoming June summit in Ireland -- which anti-Iraq War protesters have vowed to target.

http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?S=1716701
90 posted on 03/17/2004 1:12:01 AM PST by F14 Pilot
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Iran's president says his key reforms plans defeated

March 17, 2004
SFGate.com

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- President Mohammad Khatami conceded defeat Wednesday on two bills meant to check the power of Iran's hard-liners, essentially acknowledging the failure of key pillars of his reformist presidential agenda.

One of the bills aimed to increase presidential powers in order to stop constitutional violations. The other sought to bar the Guardian Council -- a conservative oversight body -- from disqualifying parliamentary and presidential candidates.

"I withdraw the bills and declare that I have met with defeat," Khatami told reporters.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/03/17/international0439EST0469.DTL
91 posted on 03/17/2004 3:17:55 AM PST by F14 Pilot
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To: F14 Pilot
Time for Khatami to go.
92 posted on 03/17/2004 3:25:30 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Much of your pain is self-chosen. --- Kahlil Gibran)
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To: Khashayar
Stay the course, stay safe, and get those Mullahs out of politics.
93 posted on 03/17/2004 4:25:28 AM PST by steveegg (Why won't Ke(rr)y tell us who supports him? Is it because they're all enemies of the US?)
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To: DoctorZIn
Major Breaking News from inside of Iran...

Watchers of Iran have long waited for the Oil Sector Workers to go on strike. It could quickly cripple the regime.

It is being reported by the ILNA (Iranian Labor News Agency)that approximately 500 oil sector workers have blocked the road between Khoramshahr to Ahvaz. They are reportedly in the second day of their strike.

This stretch of road is reportedly a critical because it most oil products must pass through this area in order to reach other areas of Iran (it is near their oil complex). They are calling on local people to join them in their strike.

Here is the report in Persian (I am told)

http://khabarnameh.gooya.com/politics/archives/007864.php
94 posted on 03/17/2004 6:01:17 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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Major Breaking News from inside of Iran...

Oil Sector Workers in Iran go on strike.

It could quickly cripple the regime.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1099368/posts?page=94#94
95 posted on 03/17/2004 6:06:48 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn
Fantastic. Thanks, Doc.
96 posted on 03/17/2004 6:09:40 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Much of your pain is self-chosen. --- Kahlil Gibran)
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To: DoctorZIn
500.

They're protesting not being paid?
97 posted on 03/17/2004 6:10:06 AM PST by nuconvert (CAUTION: I'm an acquaintance of someone labelled "an obstinate supporter of dangerous fantasies")
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To: nuconvert
They are calling on local people to join them in their strike.

This is good, like last summer, right? The students protested and then other groups joined.

98 posted on 03/17/2004 6:12:07 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Much of your pain is self-chosen. --- Kahlil Gibran)
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To: nuconvert

99 posted on 03/17/2004 6:13:33 AM PST by nuconvert (CAUTION: I'm an acquaintance of someone labelled "an obstinate supporter of dangerous fantasies")
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To: nuconvert
Once Iran's largest port, Khorramshahr was almost destroyed during the Iran-Iraq War.
Ahvaz is about 100km north of Khorramshahr.
100 posted on 03/17/2004 6:18:02 AM PST by nuconvert (CAUTION: I'm an acquaintance of someone labelled "an obstinate supporter of dangerous fantasies")
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