UN administrators flee Kosovo's Christian “Kristallnacht”

b92.net ^ | March 17, 2004 | B92

[Mr. Mojo]

That is more rationalization, more leftist justification

Relax, Jack. I simply said that Anzar shouldn't have been so quick to point the finger at what was in all liklihood an innocent party in this particular instance (Eta). Had he not done so, and been straight with the Spanish electorate (about Al Qaeda's probable involvement), he very well could still be in office today. (That point of view is shared by many conservatives, and has nothing whatsoever to do with leftism).

The other view is that their electorate got spooked and raised the white flag.

.....And my take is that it's a debatable subject, but there's probably an element of truth to both "explanations" for the socialist victory.

[PGalt]

Thanks for the ping. A very informative topic.

[GoLightly]

Albanian's are singing the praise of Iran for providing the weapons they needed. Religion, another stroke thrown into the mix of the back & forth killing of the other guy, in retaliation for them killing your guys. It used to just be the nazis vs the commies.

Meanwhile, all sides hate America. Someone must think we need to keep enough of our guys there to take on the role of common enemy.

http://berclo.net/page99/99en-balk-notes.html

[GoLightly]

Big shiny *Serb* building... It's as good a target as any.

[Cronos]

Don't call me a liar, check this link to refugees international

• The population of Kosovo is approximately 10 million.
  
• Kosovo is predominately Albanian (75%), with Serbs (10%), and Bosnians and Turks (5%).
  
• Kosovo is predominantly Muslim (70%), with minority religions such as Eastern Orthodox (15%), Roman Catholic (4%), Protestant (1%) and other religions (10%)
  
• Kosovo is still under a provisionary government established by the UN Security Council and is a semi-autonomous province within newly formed Serbia and Montenegro.
  
  
  

[Cronos]

I don't want my tax dollars (or military) going to help Muslims kill Christians regardless...ever.

I agree. Our job in Kosovo is to prevent these killings. Don't go painting the Kosovars as islamic terrorists when they're not. If we do exacerbate the persecution complex there, then they become easy prey to the Saudi Loonies. The Albanians and Bosnians were Christian barely 3 centuries ago, they also follow what most Muslims consider heretic or impure islam -- their way of not subsuming to islam. There have been significant gains of bringing them back to the fold and I believe it can be done. And a lot easily than returning Egypt or Syria which have been Muslimm for over a millenium

[Cronos]

Any Maronite (and there are some) who sides with the Terrs against my tribe are vermin same as the rags.

TRanslation? Terrs? Rags? I assume you mean rags = Arabs. In Lebanon, quite a few of those 'rags' are not Arabs but your fellow phoenician descendents who were forced to convert.

[Cronos]

Do you really think Christendom has been at war with the moon rockers for 1200 years for nothing. They were founded by the sword and must be brought to heel. It's them or us (throw in the Jews and others with us)....

Christendom has been at war with Islamm. It's followers I consider in the same manner as "hate the sin, not the sinner". Islamm is an evil disease and those who have it need to be cured. But persecuting them won't solve it. Slaughtering them is not the solution, we've got to convert them -- and some progress is being made in Albania. It's a long hard road, but there is no other option.

[Cronos]

Analogy: If someone says that all Arabs are evil, do they include the few Arab Christians? If someone says all Albanians are evil, do you include the minority Christians too?

[Cronos]

I observe that significant factions of Muslims have trouble coexisting with a variety of disparate neighbors.

Islam can't tolerate any undiseased. So, a crusade against Islam to convert them is the way. Containing the diseased won't work and hasn't worked. Slaughtering them is repulsive and sinking down to their level. They must be converted.

[Cronos]

evils of radical Islam.

Islam IS radical Islam, the moderate form is an apostasy and dies out pretty quick. These people must be occupied and forced to convert. If you can convince me that the SErbian govt. would do that and not indulge in slobo's genocidal tendencies, then I would support that. I don't believe they would, the ethnic hatred has been built up too much by Slobo to dissipate that easily.

[Cronos]

Gee...I thought Cclinton and Weasle Clark ended the genocide in Kosovo!

They did half the job and then scampered. They prevented the Serbs from slaughtering the Bosnians and the Kosovar Albanians, but they didn't prevent the opposite from happening. Typical Clintack approach, do it half way and self publicise as much as possible.

[Cronos]

The Muslims were the direct descendents of the Jewish Faith, but totally heretical.

Not really, Islam is more like a Christian heresy.  The koran is a mish-mash of the bible and pre-islamicc arab beliefs.  It's also highly contradictory and laughable.  But then they're not allowed to question it.

The Crusades were generated by the persecution of Christians in the Mid-East by these who were spawned by a madman's interpretation of what was God's Rule.

Correct.

Their hatreds and tactics have spread and infected our entire world today with terror, generated by their "religion" which is beyond our scope of understanding.

Correct again.

The Ibrahaim's among them will attest to their common ancestry in Judaism from days of yore.
Actually, many Arabic names are similar to Jewish names -- they are both semitic languages like:

Abraham = Ibrahim

Salman = Solomon

Miriam = Maryam

Moses = Musa

Jesus/Joshua = Isa  ( Yehoshua in Hebrew)

But Islam is a corruption of Christian (and through that Jewish) values.  Mo usurped Israel's rise to heaven and made Mo the one who did it in Jerusalem (hence their claim on that city and the reason for the Dome of the Rock), he also changed the story of Abraham's almost sacrifice of Isaac with Ishmael (traditional ancestor of the Arabs).  He was nothing more than an Arab nationalist.

[Cronos]

Next they will take revenge on Poland for Sobieski's triumph over them...

Actually I think that's already happened. Jan Sobieski III defeated the Turks outside Vienna on September 11th - 12th..... 9/11, 9/12

[Cronos]

I hope the U.N. leaves, and the Serbs resurrect themselves and exterminate or convert every single Muslim polluting the sacred soil of Kosovo.

I would support the conversion, but there is the ethnic element to it as well.

[Cronos]

Too many folks are trying to simplify this, knee jerk reaction. The Balkans is not the black and white situation some people want it to be. The killings on both sides shoudl be stopped. The burning of Churchs and Mosques should be stopped immediately. This is nothing more than tit for tat attacks, with memories going back centuries, even millenia.

[Cronos]

your pro muslim statements.

Name one. My stance is against any ethnic killings and ethnic prejudices -- whether it's ethnic Albanians hating ethnic Serbs or Vice versa.

[ZULU]

A year or so ago I would have agreed with you.

I now believe that Islam is a poisonous, virulent disease which is incapable of co-existing with any other religious faith peacefully. Even within Islam, the kind of violence we now see directed towards the west has been practised right up to the present between Islamic sects.

Sure, there are individual Muslims just like you and me who only want to be left in peace. However, the tenets of their faith inescapably have produced nutcases like Wahhabi, Bin Laddin, etc. and their many adherents for centuries. It will continue to do so.

Christianity and other religions have had this problem also, but with time, the essential non-violent teachings of most other religions founders have relegated the kind of murderous killing we see today in Islam to a distant past. But the Quran, the Hadiths, the very essence of Islam is anything but peaceful or non-violent. It is aggressive, intolerant, brutal, and anachronistic in nature.

The best we can do for Muslims is to contain Islam, remove Muslims from our midst for the sake of western security and leave them to evolve into modern human beings on their own, or destroy themselves by their own culturally inherent brutal nature.

What we saw in New York and Madrid will be repeated again and again in western society as long as we suffer under the misconception that this belief system is no different than all other faiths. It really doesn't matter if Bin Laddin or Al Zawahiri or any number of Al Quaida chieftains are identified and neutralized. The problem is the belief system which will continue to generate people like them.

[Cronos]

Hi Zulu. I'm not Muslim.

[joan]

"The population of Kosovo is approximately 10 million."

10 million is 5 times larger than all other sources which give Kosovo a population of 2 million. That's a hugh error.