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Kerry Lying About Anti-War Past, Supporter Alleges
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 3/18/04 | Marc Morano

Posted on 03/18/2004 2:58:03 AM PST by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - A Vietnam War historian and supporter of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry has told CNSNews.com that Kerry is lying about key events related to his anti-war activities in 1971.

Kerry said he hasn't spoken to former anti-war associate Al Hubbard since the two men appeared side by side on national television in April 1971, but according to author Gerald Nicosia, that assertion is wrong. So is Kerry's insistence that he did not attend a November 1971 meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), at which group members discussed the possibility of assassinating U.S. senators who were still supporting the war in Vietnam, Nicosia said.

Nicosia backed up his comments regarding Kerry's presence at the November 1971 meeting by providing CNSNews.com with the FBI's redacted files about that meeting.

Questions about events that happened 33 years ago continue to nag the Kerry candidacy as the Massachusetts Democrat's November match-up against President Bush comes into sharper focus.

Kerry faces increasing skepticism about answers he gave to certain questions as well as recent statements he made, including his claim that some foreign leaders had told him they were hopeful Bush would be defeated this year.

Among the questions surrounding Kerry's involvement as a 27-year-old anti-war protester are those about his relationship with Hubbard, the former executive director of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Kerry and Hubbard appeared on NBC's Meet the Press on April 18, 1971 to argue for an end to the war.

But shortly thereafter, Hubbard, who had been introduced on the NBC program as a decorated Air Force captain, was exposed for having exaggerated his military credentials. A separate news investigation revealed that there were no military records showing that Hubbard had either served in Vietnam or was injured there.

Last week, during a Capitol Hill news conference, CNSNews.com asked Kerry whether he was still in touch with Hubbard or whether he was willing to repudiate Hubbard because of Hubbard's fabricated war record.

"I haven't talked to Al Hubbard since that week" of the Meet the Press appearance, Kerry replied. Kerry also said he did not believe that VVAW's credibility was hurt as a result of Hubbard falsifying his war record.

But Gerald Nicosia, author of the book Home to War: A History of the Vietnam Veterans' Movement and a Kerry supporter, disagreed with Kerry's contention that he and Hubbard saw no more of each other after the week of April 18, 1971.

"That is bull****. No, no, [Kerry] saw [Hubbard] at numerous meetings after that, including the one I talk about in my book, the July meeting in St. Louis," Nicosia told CNSNews.com .

[Kerry] saw [Hubbard] in July, and according to FBI [files on Vietnam Veterans Against the War] and the minutes of those meetings, [Kerry] probably saw him in November [1971] too," Nicosia said.

Kerry and Hubbard had a heated argument at the St. Louis meeting in July that was "witnessed by 200 veterans," according to Nicosia.

Despite the presidential candidate's claim last week that Hubbard had not hurt the anti-war group's credibility in 1971, Kerry actually believed otherwise, according to Nicosia.

"There was a big fight with Al Hubbard in which Kerry confronted him and they were screaming at each other across the hall," Nicosia explained. Hubbard, who had ties to the radical Black Panthers group, and Kerry "couldn't have been more opposite personalities," Nicosia said.

The simmering tension between the two men finally reached a boil in St. Louis, Nicosia said, with Kerry shouting, "Who are you, Al Hubbard? Are you even really a veteran?

"So it was a big screaming match," he added.

Nicosia told CNSNews.com he was uncomfortable disputing Kerry's statements.

"I am in kind of an awkward position here. I am a Kerry supporter and I certainly don't want to do anything that hurts him. On the other hand, my number one allegiance is to truth. So I am going to go with where the facts are, and John is going to have to deal with that," Nicosia said.

"I am having some problems with the things he is saying right now, which are not matching up with accuracy," he added.

November 1971 meeting


Nicosia also disputed Kerry's denial that he was in attendance when VVAW members met in Kansas City in November 1971 to discuss the possibility of assassinating U.S. senators still committed to the Vietnam War.

Kerry was at the meeting, Nicosia insisted, pointing to FBI files and the minutes from the VVAW meeting, which he has obtained. "The minutes of the meeting -- November 12th through the15th -- it's got John Kerry there, it's got John Kerry resigning there on the third day," Nicosia said.

Nicosia provided CNSNews.com with a copy of the FBI's redacted files of that November 1971 VVAW meeting. The files refer to the fact that Kerry had "resigned for 'personal reasons.'"

"You are talking to a Kerry supporter, but I will tell you, after everything that I have heard and seen, I would conclude that he was there," he added.

Nicosia said he is not sure why Kerry is answering questions on the issue in the manner he is.

"Why didn't [former President Bill] Clinton say he [had sex with] Monica Lewinsky? It took him until he had to be confronted with the hard evidence before he said he did," Nicosia said.

"I think [Kerry] may be worried or the people around him may be worried that his association with VVAW is a very negative thing and they want John to back away from it," he added.

Nicosia concluded with advice for Kerry.

"The chickens are coming home to roost, and unfortunately he is starting to backtrack and I personally don't think backtracking is going to work because people are going to go at him and find the discrepancies," Nicosia said.

As recently as two days ago, Kerry's presidential campaign spokesman David Wade told the New York Sun that, "Kerry was not at the Kansas City meeting." Wade added that Kerry had resigned from the VVAW "sometime in the summer of 1971."

See Earlier Stories:
Kerry Says Credibility Not Damaged By Former Comrade's Lie (March 11, 2004)
Kerry-Linked Anti-War Group Can't Bury Deceit (March 3, 2004) Most Media Refused to Expose Kerry's Anti-War Cohort (March 3, 2004)



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1971; 2004; alhubbard; bush2004; geraldnicosia; kerry; kerry2004; kerryfbifiles; kerrylies; nicosia; vvaw
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1 posted on 03/18/2004 2:58:03 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Notice that last link says COMRADE's LIE

quite a Freudian Slip I say!
2 posted on 03/18/2004 3:00:31 AM PST by RaceBannon (John Kerry is Vietnam's Benedict Arnold: Former War Hero turned Traitor)
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To: kattracks; backhoe

OH-OH
Backhoe...
3 posted on 03/18/2004 3:01:15 AM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold.)
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To: kattracks
How one single veteran of any war could vote for Kerry is a mystery.
4 posted on 03/18/2004 3:05:25 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: kattracks
Nicosia backed up his comments regarding Kerry's presence at the November 1971 meeting by providing CNSNews.com with the FBI's redacted files about that meeting.

Ooops!

5 posted on 03/18/2004 3:06:21 AM PST by Samwise (I am going to need to be sedated before this election is over.)
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To: onyx
Gee whiz! This stuff just never stops...

-John Kerry- some selected, informative links...--

6 posted on 03/18/2004 3:09:51 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the TrackBall into the Sunset...)
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To: backhoe
Just like it didn't stop with Dean before Iowa. Looks like someone is getting ready to come out of the coven to save the day.
8 posted on 03/18/2004 3:12:35 AM PST by Dahoser (They RATS are waging war on many fronts. That's the big picture.)
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To: govtpriapus
You won't reply because you're a troll.

But you mean the band of brothers that Kerry lied about? The atrocities that DIDN'T happen? The soldiers Kerry cares so much for but won't vote to fund the equipment they need? You mean those guys?

Kerry is a metrosexual, gigolo, botoxed French guy who wouldn't know danger if it bit him in the a**.
9 posted on 03/18/2004 3:14:56 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: govtpriapus
Ma bush?
Gee, you wouldn't have an agenda here would you?
I mean, you just signed-on.
10 posted on 03/18/2004 3:15:53 AM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold.)
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To: kattracks

Go Kerry!

Actually, GW Bush and Kim Jung Il e-mail each other a lot too. See the link:

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11 posted on 03/18/2004 3:16:11 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: autoresponder; PhilDragoo; Liz; onyx; nicmarlo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; devolve; MEG33; Grampa Dave; ..
Kerry ?? LYING ? Aw, c'mon ! < /sarcasm >


12 posted on 03/18/2004 3:37:49 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: kattracks
None of this will resonate with the media or the limited number of people who will learn of this.

The big lie coming from Kerry is not that foreign leaders despise Bush, it's the big lie that they told him face to face.

He's already waffled all over the place on that issue.

13 posted on 03/18/2004 3:41:08 AM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: Peach
This veteran will do everything possible to thwart kerry.
14 posted on 03/18/2004 3:57:50 AM PST by Broker (Army Ensign & USNR COD pilot retired.)
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To: kattracks
Kerry says he quit the VVAW on Nov. 10, 1971 -- it's also a lie. Kerry continued to make public appearances, give radio and TV interviews, and take the stage for the VVAW well into April 1972. Liar, Liar, pants on fire.
15 posted on 03/18/2004 3:59:23 AM PST by jrlc (Just for Kerry - STOP THE BUSH BASHING)
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To: kattracks
This is the second or third article I have read about this meeting that Kerry claims he didn't attend, but I haven't seen anything on TV yet. From what I understand, if he did attend, it would be proof that he knew of a plot and conspiracy to assassinate senators that still supported the war, but he failed to warn the authorities of the plot. It seems to me that this story is just bubbling under the surface and could blow sky high at any moment. Am I reading too much into this story?
16 posted on 03/18/2004 4:02:51 AM PST by RJayneJ
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To: OldFriend; kattracks; onyx; Peach; All
Does anybody know if this Nicosia guy is a friend of the Clintons? Are those redacted FBI files available through the FOIA?
17 posted on 03/18/2004 4:02:57 AM PST by old and tired (Go Toomey! Send Specter back to the Highlands!)
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To: kattracks; MeekOneGOP
"I am having some problems with the things he is saying right now, which are not matching up with accuracy," he added.

Aren't we all!

18 posted on 03/18/2004 4:04:06 AM PST by RottiBiz
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To: kattracks; doug from upland; StriperSniper; Mo1; Sabertooth
[Kerry] saw [Hubbard] in July, and according to FBI [files on Vietnam Veterans Against the War] and the minutes of those meetings, [Kerry] probably saw him in November [1971] too," Nicosia said.

November 1971 meeting

Nicosia also disputed Kerry's denial that he was in attendance when VVAW members met in Kansas City in November 1971 to discuss the possibility of assassinating U.S. senators still committed to the Vietnam War.

Kerry was at the meeting, Nicosia insisted, pointing to FBI files and the minutes from the VVAW meeting, which he has obtained. "The minutes of the meeting -- November 12th through the15th -- it's got John Kerry there, it's got John Kerry resigning there on the third day," Nicosia said.

Nicosia provided CNSNews.com with a copy of the FBI's redacted files of that November 1971 VVAW meeting. The files refer to the fact that Kerry had "resigned for 'personal reasons.'"

"You are talking to a Kerry supporter, but I will tell you, after everything that I have heard and seen, I would conclude that he was there," he added.

19 posted on 03/18/2004 4:10:27 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: kattracks
The sad truth about this is that the man.Kerry, has told so many different things and flip-flopped so much I don believe he himself knows the truth.
He will say and do anything to get elected and I believe
he is an habitual liar and not in contact with reality. Even worse there are enough people in this country for one reason or the other that could get him elected and most of the reasons go against America's best interest.
20 posted on 03/18/2004 4:12:03 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: RJayneJ
Am I reading too much into this story?

No.

TWO WITNESSES COULD END KERRY PRESIDENTIAL RUN -- "The Phoenix Project"

21 posted on 03/18/2004 4:17:18 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: kattracks
>> I am a Kerry supporter

If you support a liar, you'll never know when he's telling the truth.

22 posted on 03/18/2004 4:19:09 AM PST by T'wit (Law of Survival: 1. Find out who Big Brother is 2. Find out what Big Brother wants 3. Knuckle under.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Patience!

Do not waste this america-hating liar until he is nominated!!

The only reward for destroying him now is a Hillary candidacy.

Keep your powder dry!
23 posted on 03/18/2004 4:21:06 AM PST by getitright ("...terrorists can only be destroyed- and this is the task at hand..." VP Cheney.)
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To: kattracks

Source:http://www.rsrobinson.net


24 posted on 03/18/2004 4:22:42 AM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: Dahoser
Hmmmm. Information was obtained on these meetings from FBI files was it. Now where do you suppose they came from?
I thought Hitlery was going to save this shaft for just before the convention so she could humbly accept a last minute draft after Kerry's campaign unexpectedly blew up from the revelations contained in the files. Perhaps she thought that to wait so long would appear too obvious so she has chosen to act now.
25 posted on 03/18/2004 4:26:41 AM PST by finnigan2
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To: kattracks
A separate news investigation revealed that there were no military records showing that Hubbard had either served in Vietnam or was injured there.

Look for another classic Kerry moment:

"I never said I met with Vietnam veteran Hubbard to discuss killing a US Senator. We discussed assassination, yes....but Hubbard NEVER WAS A VIETNAM VET!! Just more lies from the right-wing attack machine!"

26 posted on 03/18/2004 4:30:22 AM PST by guitfiddlist
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To: kattracks
"I think [Kerry] may be worried or the people around him may be worried that his association with VVAW is a very negative thing and they want John to back away from it," he added.

I would think that 'backing away' from a conspiracy to assassinate US senators would not be an option for John Kerry? IMHO, this issue should be the final nail in John Kerry's political coffin......

27 posted on 03/18/2004 4:31:14 AM PST by eeriegeno
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To: Dahoser
Looks like someone is getting ready to come out of the coven to save the day.

Timing is very important to her.
She has to have her throw away candidate Comrade John F'onda Kerry hang on long
enough that she won't have to actually run on her own merits.
Reluctant savior of the party will be her theme.

She'll have to try this time, this is her only window, 2008 is too late.
Incumbent VP Rice would kick her butt.

28 posted on 03/18/2004 4:37:45 AM PST by ASA Vet ("Anyone who signed up after 11/28/97 is a newbie")
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To: RaceBannon
From Gerald Nicosia's book, Home To War pg. 211:

In St. Louis in July, two months after Dewev Canvon III, VVAW held its most turbulent national meeting to date. Many remember it as the meeting where John Kerry and Al Hubhard went head to head. Kerry made a long speech punctuated at frequent intervals bv the demand: "Who is Al Hubbard?" Voicing his opposition to Hubbard's various political and social agendas, Kerry even challenged Hubbard to prove he was a Vietnam veteran. Feeling supplanted, and weakened politically by the impending resignation of arch supporter Mike Oliver (who was about to leave for California as a field organizer), Hubbard "freaked out," screaming insults at Kerry from the opposite end oft he hall. Each time Kerry would denounce his authenticity, Hubbard would bounce up out of his chair, holding his back and grimacing, as if in great pain, and at one point he even pulled up his shirt to exhibit his scar.

Kerry wrote a rave review for Nicosia's book. He had a book party for it in his Senate office. So he is aware what is in it. It looks like Kerry is lying when he now claims to have had not further contact after April 1971.

Kerry's Mentor: Black Panther And Phony Vietnam Vet, Al Hubbard

29 posted on 03/18/2004 4:38:03 AM PST by kcvl
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To: OXENinFLA; prairiebreeze; onyx; Texasforever; CyberAnt; BigSkyFreeper; dixiechick2000; Tamsey; ...
"I think [Kerry] may be worried or the people around him may be worried that his association with VVAW is a very negative thing and they want John to back away from it," he added.

Well if I was to take a guess it's not meeting with the WVAW part Kerry is afraid of

It's the assassinating US Senators part that Kerry is scared to death of

30 posted on 03/18/2004 4:40:11 AM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: finnigan2
Maybe this is just Hillary's picadors weakening the bull, so the thick ankle matador can finish him off with a flourish.
31 posted on 03/18/2004 4:40:36 AM PST by HangThemHigh (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how make it stop.)
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To: HangThemHigh
Book review of Home to War: A History of the Vietnam Veterans' Movement by Gerald Nicosia:

"The first third of the book is gripping as you get tossed into the middle of the formation of VVAW and other groups. Gerald Nicosia interviewed 600 veterans, including former Black Panther Al Hubbard, Ron Kovic, Jan Barry-a founding member of VVAW, and Joe Urgo. Joe is a member of VVAWAI and was the 1st Vietnam vet to go on a peace mission to Hanoi in August 1971, he also helped organize Winter Soldier and Dewey Canyon."

http://www.oz.net/~vvawai/sw/sw43/Home_to_War.html

3 posted on 02/17/2004 3:53:15 PM PST by Hon

32 posted on 03/18/2004 4:44:23 AM PST by kcvl
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To: onyx
Gerald Nicosia's home site:

http://www.geraldnicosia.com/
33 posted on 03/18/2004 4:52:00 AM PST by kcvl
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To: RJayneJ
It seems to me that this story is just bubbling under the surface and could blow sky high at any moment. Am I reading too much into this story?

That's a good possibility.

34 posted on 03/18/2004 4:52:23 AM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: Mo1
Kerry Exploits Vets for Hanoi
Post March 5, 2004

By J. Michael Waller


http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/03/16/Politics/Kerry.Exploits.Vets.For.Hanoi-621304.shtml
35 posted on 03/18/2004 5:00:04 AM PST by kcvl
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To: kattracks
If the intellectually dishonest media had something like this on GWB...
36 posted on 03/18/2004 5:12:43 AM PST by tkathy (Our economy, our investments, and our jobs DEPEND on powerful national security.)
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To: Mo1
VIETNAM VETERANS FOR ACADEMIC REFORM

The University of Kansas Student Auxiliary



V.V.A.R.: Leading the student revolt on campus against speech codes, political correctness, multiculturalism, gender feminism, dormitory re-education, lying about Vietnam, and other instruments of academic oppression.



Leonard Magruder - Founder/President

Former professor of psychology - Suffolk College, N.Y.

Member: National Association of Scholars



CONTACT: Magruder44@aol.com

KERRY - THEY WERE NOT “STANDING UP FOR YOU.” YOU DIDN’T UNDERSTAND THAT WAR, AND YOU ARE NAIVE ABOUT THIS ONE.

By Leonard Magruder

2/21/04



(Part 1 of 2 parts)



There are a great number of organizations that represent Vietnam veterans. To our knowledge, ours is the only organization that still represents those who fought the ‘war on the homefront’ supporting both the soldiers and the cause in Vietnam, going back thirty-five years to Mr. Magruder’s first one-man protests on campuses against the war protestors. We have a huge archive on the activities of the Left, which engineered these protests, up to today when its totalitarian views on reality totally dominate the American campus.To expose the lies of the Movement would end that tyranny. The hugh waves of anti-Semitism and the sugary nonsense about Islam on campus are only the latest atrocities of the Left. Now that the Kerry campaign has raised the issue, we call for a national effort to end the lies the Left told about the Vietnam War once and for all.



We honor Kerry for his courage and service in Vietnam. But there are problems with what he did when he returned. When everyone was searching for Kerry’s 1971 testimony to Congress, we had it, in our archives. We sent it to “Northwest Veterans Newsletter,” which posted it for all to see. Then we sent out an article showing that many of Kerry’s arguments were identical to those of the campus war protestors--“Students Call on Kerry to Disavow 70’s Anti-war Statement or Drop Out.” Today we will show you why he must do that. That was not an honest movement. It was all too often nothing but Leftist propaganda for Hanoi.



We have in our archives a very rare book, containing 118 of the most important pieces of literature handed out by the antiwar movement between the years 1964 and 1974--“Mutiny Does Not Happen Lightly: the Literature of the American Resistance to the Vietnam War.” Edited by G. Louis Heath, a professor of sociology at Illinois State University, it was published in 1976 in a very limited edition. In his Introduction he writes that the book “consists of flyers, leaflets, letters, reports, manuals, and documents produced by or relating to the antiwar movement in the United States collected from over one hundred groups, many of them organized on university campuses... selected so as to present an accurate cross-section of the American resistance to the Vietnam War during 1964-1974.”



Containing mostly information on Who, What, Where of the various demonstrations and marches, and a lot of antiwar rhetoric that doesn’t explain anything, we are interested in the Why. We carefully went through all 597 pages of this book for all material that focused on the reasons for the protests. Here, greatly reduced to their essence to fit on these 5 pages, are the ONLY such statements we found. And although all of these themes are found at greater lengths in other forms, the essence of what the anti-war movement told others as to what the war was all about, is found here. We will send this book overnight to any Vietnam veteran leader acceptable to both sides of the Kerry issue, because this apparently is what he and Vietnam Veterans Against the War endorsed, to check our work to assure you that all this is true, that we have not let our own biases on this issue distort this study in any way.



And once again, as we did in our recent article,”Students Appeal to World Media as American Media Engages in Cover-Up of Kerry’s Weakness on National Security,” we call on the national media, especially TV news, to stop campaigning for Kerry and start asking him the right questions.

*****



Letter from Ho Chi Minh to a radical activist in Youth Against War and Fascism, Free University of New York:



My Dear -------

I have received your letter. You and the progressive American people, especially the youth, feel indignant at the barbarous crimes perpetrated in Vietnam by the U.S. imperialists who have thus besmeared the honor of the American people and the noble traditions of the United States. I am glad to learn that you and many other young Americans are actively endeavoring under varied forms to help push forward the movement against the war of aggression in Vietnam and in support of the Vietnamese people.

With affectionate greetings,

Signed, Uncle Ho

June 18, Nov. 25, 1965



On February 7, 1965, the U.S. began its systematic air massacre of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam (North Vietnam). The U.S. also plans to bomb the system of dikes in the Democratic Republic of Vietnam which helps the North Vietnamese from drowning and starving. Just as the U.S. is attempting to drown in blood the liberation struggle of the South Vietnamese people because it is the model for liberation struggles everywhere, so North Vietnam is being bombed to bits because it shows all colonial and former colonial countries, by living example, that Socialism can solve their problems.

–Youth Against War and Fascism, Free University of New York - Aug. 27, 1966



As far as the Vietnamese are concerned, we are fighting on the side of Hitlerism, and they hope we lose. You are supposed to be fighting to “save the Vietnamese people from Communism.” Certainly Communist influence is very strong in the National Liberation Front, the rebel government. Yet most of the people support the NLF. Why ? The war in Vietnam is not being fought according to the rules. Prisoners are tortured. Our planes drop incendiaary bombs on civilian villages. Our soldiers shoot at women and children. Your officers will tell you that it is all necessary, that we couldn’t win the war any other way. We believe that the atrocities which are necessary to win this war against the people of Vietnam are inexcusable.

–Vietnam Day Committee, San Franscisco - Aug. 2, 1966.



(This is the only mention of Communism in this entire literature. Page 138)



Among those who signed the various documents represented here, basically the major leaders of the anti-war movement, we list the following:



· Al Hubbard - Vietnam Veterans Against the War

· Jane Fonda - actress

(both signed the People’s Peace Treaty of 1971)

· Noam Chomsky, MIT

· Rev. William Sloan Coffin, Jr. Yale

· Rennie Davis, May Day Collective

· Rev. Daniel Berrigan,S.J.

· Dave Dellinger, People’s Coalition for Peace and Justice

· Daniel Ellsberg - MIT

· Richard Falk - Princeton

· Tom Hayden - Berkeley

· Abbie Hoffman - WPAX, NewYork

· Sidney Peck - People’s Coalition for Peace and justice

· Bobby Seale- Black Panther Party

· Benjamin Spock, doctor

· Gloria Steinem - author

· George Wald, biologist, Havard

· Cora Weiss - Women Strike for Peace



(Many of the people who signed the various documents in this book appeared again as signers of the recent “Not In Our Name” ad that appeared in papers all over the country, denouncing Bush and the wars on terrorism and Iraq.)

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:rkvQz_Mcow0J:www.i-served.com/022104_KerryTooNaive_part1.html+Al+Hubbard,++Black+Panthers&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
37 posted on 03/18/2004 5:13:38 AM PST by kcvl
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To: kattracks
"The chickens are coming home to roost, and unfortunately he is starting to backtrack and I personally don't think backtracking is going to work because people are going to go at him and find the discrepancies," Nicosia said.

That seems to be pretty much the Kerry has operated since 1971 through now.

If he denies it, it never happened. So what if there is proof to the contrary? He denies it, so it didn't happen. And anyone who says otherwise is just being mean. [snicker]

Kerry is nothing but any empty-suit. To use a common Southern expression, 'he's anyone's dog who'll play with him.'

Kerry is dangerous and scarey.
38 posted on 03/18/2004 5:16:22 AM PST by TomGuy ( Kerry has imaginary friends. Carter was attacked by a killer rabbit. Dems can be fun to watch.)
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To: kattracks
bump
39 posted on 03/18/2004 5:28:55 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: kattracks

40 posted on 03/18/2004 5:49:32 AM PST by chance33_98 (Profile Page Updated: Press Releases Links added (at bottom), if you need a banner let me know!)
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To: kattracks
bump
41 posted on 03/18/2004 5:55:08 AM PST by Doc-Joe
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To: gunnedah
Even worse there are enough people in this country for one reason or the other that could get him elected and most of the reasons go against America's best interest.

Sean Hannity refers to these people at the Kerry Clinton Kool Aid drinkers. I even heard a Kerry supporter on the radio who said, "Even if Kerry did lie, that does not make a difference to me".

Can you believe these people????

42 posted on 03/18/2004 6:02:23 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of a 2 month old son with Down's)
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To: Peach
Kerry is a metrosexual, gigolo ....

He sure is ...

Just a gigolo


43 posted on 03/18/2004 6:04:44 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: kattracks
Devastating story. Too bad it will never see the light of day in the media.
44 posted on 03/18/2004 6:05:09 AM PST by truthkeeper
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To: New Perspective
This is where the Democrat Party has arrived. The moderate to conservative no longer exist and the ones that say they are act like puppets on a string.
45 posted on 03/18/2004 6:11:13 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: Hon
Have you seen this?
46 posted on 03/18/2004 6:17:19 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Broker
"This veteran will do everything possible to thwart Kerry".

Thank you, Broker. Let us know how we can help.
47 posted on 03/18/2004 6:18:50 AM PST by sarasota
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To: OXENinFLA
FR has been on this story for a few weeks. It is slowly coming to a boil. It will hit mainstream soon I believe.
48 posted on 03/18/2004 6:21:17 AM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: kattracks
They are attempting to set Kerry up as THE hero who exposed the frauds within VVAW and thwarted the suversive plans of those extreme radicals within the VVAW.
49 posted on 03/18/2004 6:28:58 AM PST by There's millions of'em (John Kerry wudda pulled Mary Jo out....)
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To: TomGuy
Kerry is dangerous and scarey.

You are so right! Kerry is outlying Clinton-Gore already and I didn't think that was possible. Any trips to Russia or China in his background? Have a really bad feeling about this guy -- team him up with Hillary and the bad feeling will be twice as bad.

He is about as un-American as they come which makes me really wonder what his TRUE agenda might be. Negotiating with the terrorist mantra and giving them the idea if they do enough damage that he (Kerry) would defeat Bush borders on treason IMHO. At the very least he is undermining United States foreign policy and this Administration for political gain.

50 posted on 03/18/2004 6:50:36 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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