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To: aruanan
I hadn't heard there was any proof yet. It seems to be the global warming of the medical world.

Here's Duesberg's version of being proved wrong:
http://www.duesberg.com/faq.html

No one involved in research is given funding if they don't believe in the HIV theory of AIDS. No one has done the necessary studies to show HIV and AIDS are related. The numbers don't even make sense. If there are a million people in the USA with HIV, and HIV has a ten year latency for death there should be (and thank God there are not) about 100,000 deaths per year from AIDS. It is not happening. Karposi's Sarcoma, one of the AIDS diseases, is caused by amyl and butyl nitrate abuse, not HIV. But the CDC is not even requiring testing to show the HIV is present in an AIDS death anymore.

AIDS is a political disease.

DK
44 posted on 03/19/2004 9:23:08 AM PST by Dark Knight
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To: Dark Knight
No one involved in research is given funding if they don't believe in the HIV theory of AIDS.

Not true.

No one has done the necessary studies to show HIV and AIDS are related.

Not true.

The numbers don't even make sense.

See how much of life makes sense to an infant. Infancy is where AIDS/HIV research was back in the 80's. If someone is basing his current understanding on the information available in that era, there'll be all sorts of things that don't make sense.
52 posted on 03/19/2004 10:16:40 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Dark Knight
The numbers don't even make sense. If there are a million people in the USA with HIV, and HIV has a ten year latency for death there should be (and thank God there are not) about 100,000 deaths per year from AIDS.

That's because the number of people infected is bogus.

The "gay plague" might not even be a plague after all.

I remember a conversation I had with a high-ranking Florida official in charge of the AIDS statistics in the state. He told me that the numbers were mostly educated guesses.

But the CDC is not even requiring testing to show the HIV is present in an AIDS death anymore.

Further proof that the numbers of infected people are exaggerated.

I doubt that many non-drug-using gay men have been infected during protected sex.

As the original article stated, both conservatives and liberals have axes to grind in claiming that the AIDS threat is bigger than it actually is. The real figures are significantly smaller for both the heterosexual and homosexual communities.

74 posted on 03/19/2004 2:50:17 PM PST by george wythe
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