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To: Dark Knight
No one involved in research is given funding if they don't believe in the HIV theory of AIDS.

Not true.

No one has done the necessary studies to show HIV and AIDS are related.

Not true.

The numbers don't even make sense.

See how much of life makes sense to an infant. Infancy is where AIDS/HIV research was back in the 80's. If someone is basing his current understanding on the information available in that era, there'll be all sorts of things that don't make sense.
52 posted on 03/19/2004 10:16:40 AM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan
I would love to be shown wrong, but "not trues" don't help.

I love citations, who is given government funding that either disbelieves or is undecided about the HIV/AIDS link?

What are the studies that relate HIV/AIDS?

Of course basing information on the 80's data is silly and unproductive, but basing understanding on misinformation from the 80's is worse.

Where are your numbers and citations?

If anyone wants to see where the controversy is, start at
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data2/introduction.htm

DK

By the way, I remember the misinformation from the 80's like the Haitian connection, which "confused" the CDC for years.
54 posted on 03/19/2004 10:43:01 AM PST by Dark Knight
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To: aruanan
I was very serious, if you have the citations on the HIV/AIDS link, or on the funding by persons skeptical of HIV/AIDS link, I would love to see them!

DK
73 posted on 03/19/2004 2:40:39 PM PST by Dark Knight
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To: aruanan
Just want to thank you. I went to the CDC site and looked it up. There is no causal link as yet. Of course it is not stated that way.

http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/evidhiv.htm

They have unfortunately asserted that HIV has passed the KOCH Postulate for infectious diseases and they hedged! Where every candidate had to have HIV, they said virtually in postulates one and two. In postulate one, it is not as important but in postulate two it is required. Not almost all, not everyone but one. ALL.

For the third postulate everything starts breaking down. Three health workers, fifty six health workers, 11 neonates (in what sounds like a horrid experiment in the Netherlands, yuck), all very small populations. HIV was involved. The question is, was HIV causal? Duesberg would ask, was it AZT, the drug used for treatment? AZT was an experimental drug tested for cancer but dismissed because it was too POISONOUS. The mounds of evidence at the CDC site is less than one hundred, and not even close to one hundred percent.

I don't want to rehash Duesberg's voluminous book, but stomach ulcers were blamed on all sorts of things till H. Pylori was discovered. They haven't done the groundwork science, and that's why given an unimaginable amount of money, there is no answer to infection mechanism of HIV.

Duesberg, a pioneering retrobiologist who found the first retro-virus causing cancer, said HIV does not have enough genetic information to act in the miriad of ways people ascribe to it.

That and a Nobel Laureate would give me second thoughts.

DK
80 posted on 03/19/2004 11:28:21 PM PST by Dark Knight
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