Posted on 03/19/2004 10:11:50 PM PST by kattracks
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:14:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
"We have been asked to do a rite for people for whom marriage is not available," said the priest, who recently stepped down as chairman of the integrity caucus.
Kinda says it all, eh?
18But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who push the truth away from themselves.[6] 19For the truth about God is known to them instinctively.[7] God has put this knowledge in their hearts. 20From the time the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky and all that God made. They can clearly see his invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse whatsoever for not knowing God.
21Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn't worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. The result was that their minds became dark and confused. 22Claiming to be wise, they became utter fools instead. 23And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people, or birds and animals and snakes.
24So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. 25Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen.
26That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. 27And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved.
Perhaps they can look to King Henry for inspiration...
It says even more than you think; "Integrity" is name of the ECUSA's gay lobby. I think the reporter may not have quite understood what he was hearing, or the editor what he was reading, or something.
the rite can be used for other "relationships," such as elderly couples, who because of tax law or inheritance issues cannot marry.
There is no tax law or inheritance issue that would prevent any man and woman from marrying, if they really wanted to. They may choose not to. Can't really have your cake and eat it too.
"There are people who are mentally handicapped, who have a relationship, but whose guardians or parents don't feel marriage is the right thing," he said, "but there is a loving, exclusive relationship between these two folks.
If they don't "feel" marriage is the right thing, why do they "feel" that a "loving, exclusive [sexual] relationship" without benefit of marriage is preferable?
Their families have said, 'We wish they could be married, but they can't,
Why not? The caretakers have cooperated to the extent that the relationship between their charges is flourishing, why would they balk at marriage? "Oh no, our kids having sex together at every opportunity was fine, but MARRIAGE, my word, they couldn't handle that..."
Doesn't ring true. There are no groups of parents of mentally handicapped children, hounding the bishop to find some way to accomodate their children. He's making it up.
" but we want the blessing of God and the church on this.' "
Why not just say you want the blessings of God and the church on all forms of fornication, Bishop? That's where you're leading.
He is trying to pass off the blessing of Man as the blessing of God. It just won't work.
Classically? Seems to me Classically would be a man and a woman, guess its a good thing I'm not Anglican.
Best of luck with that one.
It's ironic that they pay lip service to the idea of standards, since ECUSA has abandoned all standards, anyway. Good liturgy cannot result from bad theology.
Oh well, Episcopalianism hasn't been able to teach apostolically since Cranley, anyway. What can one expect from a gaggle of apostates?
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