John Forbes Kerry – Domestic Terrorist

PipeLineNews.org ^ | March 19, 2004 | William A. Mayer

[johnqueuepublic]

John Forbes Kerry – Domestic Terrorist

March 19, 2004 - by William A. Mayer

We are not sure exactly what one has to do, in these days of moral ablation, to disqualify oneself from running for elective office.

The Clinton years notwithstanding, there have always been parameters within which national candidates must comport themselves - certain minimum standards that even prospective politicians might reasonably meet.

This year, however is very different.

It’s quite clear that the Democrat Party is busted - a sprung watch - beyond repair. The nominative process that we find ourselves within, clearly demonstrates this.

That a bizarre, snarling, hate filled candidate of the diminutive stature of Howard Dean was almost anointed - as if deemed by heavenly hosts perched upon excelsior clouds - is reason enough to be suspect of the health of the party.

Yet on Dean’s heels comes an even more troubling individual who surfaced in the carnage of the media’s frenzy to de-elect Howie.

That individual is of course, John Forbes Kerry.

John Forbes Kerry.

Roll those words around in your mouth and what do you get?

You get a craggy - almost gaunt looking, but virile - New Englander.

You get a Skull & Crossbones Yalie, a war hero and the most liberal member of the United States Senate.

You get a guy who says he can speak for the little guy, but whose personal fortune is about $750 million and whose cash-cow wifey’s company outsources 6 out of 7 of its jobs to Third World dung heaps.

One minor complication, however…John Forbes Kerry is a domestic terrorist.

That's not a typo.

John Forbes Kerry is a domestic terrorist.

In large part due to New York’s real newspaper of record - the Sun - and their award winning journalist - Thomas Lipscomb - the true story of Kerry’s membership in the radical revolutionary group, Vietnam Veterans Against the War, has finally seen the light of day.

While Kerry was the national spokesman for VVAW [1970-1971] the group coldly discussed a plot to invade the capital building and then assassinate pro-war United States Senators. This was nothing less than a plan to violently overthrow the lawful government of the United States.

“My plan was that on the last day we would go into the [congressional] offices we would schedule the most hardcore hawks for last — and we would shoot them all...I was serious." Scott Camil, VVAW

From one of the New York Sun's series of articles:

“…Mr. Nicosia also read quotes from FBI surveillance documents he obtained under the Freedom of Information Act as he was preparing his 2001 book, “Home to War."

“My evidence is incontrovertible. He was there," Mr. Nicosia said in an interview yesterday. “There’s no way that five or six agents saw his ghost there," said the historian, who lives in Marin County, north of San Francisco.

Mr. Nicosia said that the records show Mr. Kerry resigned from the group on the third day of the meeting, following discussion of the assassination plan and an argument between Mr. Kerry and another VVAW national coordinator, Al Hubbard.

Reading from an FBI informant report, Mr. Nicosia said, “John Kerry at a national Vietnam Veterans Against the War meeting appeared and announced to those present that he resigned for personal reasons but said he would be able to speak for VVAW " at future events." – Josh Gerstein, New York Sun - March 19, 2004

Please note that even Kerry’s “resignation" from the group was a self-serving act of convenience not conscience, only driven by Kerry’s desire to run for political office.

It's beyond comprehension that after attending at least one meeting where an active and serious assassination plan was discussed, Kerry was still willing to be their spokesman - anything that would get him media face-time.

Kerry has lied about his VVAW experience and his “anti-war" activities for over 30 years. His campaign has only now come clean because the evidence arrayed against him includes at least 6 different eye-witnesses and the testimony of FBI undercover agents who were also at those meetings.

Set against the realities of the war on terror, if holding a leadership position in the VVAW and his participation in discussions about assassinating United States Senators is not grounds for barring John Forbes Kerry from ever seeking elective office, we can’t imagine what is.

Kerry has never publicly rejected the VVAW, he has never apologized for his role as the organization's official spokesman nor has he rejected its terrorist agenda.

John Forbes Kerry is so monstrously ego-driven, so reckless, so lacking in veracity, judgment and temperament, that his candidacy should be rejected outright. If it proceeds it will be the final nail in the coffin of the Democrat Party, a party that will be crushed at the polls on November 2.

© 2004 William A. Mayer, PipeLineNews.org, all rights reserved

[johnqueuepublic]

bttt

[Godzilla]

Bravo, finally some one is getting it! Kerry's proper and legal obligation was to report this to the proper law enforcement authorities. But nooooooooo he didn't, and now he is trying duck the issue.

[syriacus]

Let's not abandon the children of Iraq the way John Kerry pressured us to abandon the children of Southeast Asia.

[BenLurkin]

bttt

[John Thornton]

What can we do to get this story picked up by the major media?

Those of us on the FReeper board see a lot more than most people do. If I relied on my local newspaper for political news, I would know very little about John Kerry's bad week. It's like it never happened.

[syriacus]

Kerry has lied about his VVAW experience and his “anti-war" activities for over 30 years. His campaign has only now come clean because the evidence arrayed against him includes at least 6 different eye-witnesses and the testimony of FBI undercover agents who were also at those meetings.

Lucky for Kerry, he didn't lie to the FBI...he'd be in trouble...like Martha Stewart.

[johnqueuepublic]

Thanks, will pass that along to Mr. Mayer

At bare minimum it was Kerry's responsibility to report it to the FBI.

It's really ironic that the plan was to take place against his future empoyer, the US Senate.

The funny (sad) thing about this is that the information is already out there, the NY Sun has been all over this for over a week.

What PLN did was take the info and place it in perspective which makes it easier to make the necessary connections.

[johnqueuepublic]

It was the Rat dominated US Congress that abandoned Vietnam and cut off their funds.

The Rats started the war and after they turned it into an unmanageable mess Nixon had to finally and mercifully pull the plug, at that point the war was unwinable because of the media/Rat coalition.

Hate them Rats.

[johnqueuepublic]

Good line.

I didn't think so at first but Kerry is a far worse liar than even Clinton, Clinton is basically an immature man, a boy in a chuby mans body, Kerry has that lean and hungry look. He is more dangerous, can you imagine Clinton participating in an assassination plot against the Senate?

I hate Clinton but I dont think he would go for it, its against Southern nature.

[syriacus]

[Kerry] is more dangerous.

I agree.

Let's hope his penchant for reliving the past helps to bring about a well-deserved, self-induced, fall from grace.

Clinton was smart enough to talk about the future and about his plans to do great things for the downtrodden Americans.

Kerry keeps speaking about the past, thinking everyone will accept his version of it.

[syriacus]

It was the Rat dominated US Congress that abandoned Vietnam and cut off their funds

I don't know that the Democrats could have changed horses midwar, if Kerry hadn't provided the horses.

[syriacus]

I don't know that the Democrats could have changed horses midwar, if Kerry hadn't provided the horses.

Kerry was the Democrats' bemedaled knight in shining armor, riding a white horse.

[johnqueuepublic]

Its been a great two weeks for the Bush admin, Spain was a terrible act and the new nancy boy prime minister there is a goofus of the first degreee, but the bombing reminds Americans that this isnt a little game like the Rats want to pretend.

[backhoe]

Cross-link:

-John Kerry- some selected, informative links...--

[johnqueuepublic]

I agree, in the final analysis Kerry is inseparable from the anti war Rat Congress and the Dukakis admin which he was part of......saw Bush's speech today on of all channels CNN they carried it live, Bush creamed Kerry in it using ridicule, which Rove apparently has decided gets under Kerrys very thin skin.

Has anyone seen any mention in the major media about Kerry calling his Secret Service agent a son of a bitch?

its a Drudge story but I havent seen it anywhere.

[Terry Mross]

Folks, these attacks are coming too soon. What I mean is, they're coming soon enough in the campaign to ruin Kerry and give the nomination to "someone else". Anyone wanta' guess who "someone else" is?

[Michael.SF.]

One minor complication, however…John Forbes Kerry is a domestic terrorist.

That's not a typo.

John Forbes Kerry is a domestic terrorist.

I believe that this post is beneath Right thinking Republicans and borders on the same type of hysteria from the nut jobs we see at DU.

This will only serve as ammunition for the DU'ers.

[johnqueuepublic]

Care to discuss that statement Michael?

Q 1 Was VVAW's plot to assassinate 7 US pro war senators a terrorist plot?

[Hon]

I agree, and was going to post the same thing before I saw your post.

[johnqueuepublic]

2. If so, can you point to any statement wherein Mr. Kerry has disavowed the VVAW?

You are aware that until two days ago the Kerry campaign was denying that Kerry was even in attendance at the plotting session?

[Hon]

"the Sun - and their award winning journalist - Thomas Lipscomb"

This would be news to Lipscomb. (He hasn't won any awards for journalism that I am aware of.)

[johnqueuepublic]

Ok let's discuss in, Hon you are certainly invited to answer either of those questions.

[Hon]

The piece is over the top, big time. If you can't see how, there is nothing to discuss. And I don't want to go back and forth to give it more prominence.

(What gets me is that the mods change the titles of my factual posts, and allow things like this to go.)

[johnqueuepublic]

"And I don't want to go back and forth to give it more prominence"

Well, you made a statement you cant defend and now you want to run away?

[meatloaf]

Actually we had the war virtually won and didn't know it. Even with LBJ and McNamera's machinations we had North
Vietnam and the VC on the ropes.

The fact many believe to this day that the war was unwinable shows how ingrained the message put out by the anti-war protesters has become a part of our history even when ample information has surfaced from NV sources telling the truth.

[johnqueuepublic]

I pretty much agree with that, but when LBJ bailed that sent a huge message, everyone now knows that Tet was a huge loss for the NVA/VC but the media, especially that leftist Cronkite, made it seem like a US defeat.

My point is that after all that, after Nixon did some serious bombing, the support for the war just evaporated.

[johnqueuepublic]

What happened to Hon and Mikey?

I dont get here as often as I would like, are these guys the type who post and run?

[estpeter]

Watch C-Span tonight at 6:30 and 9:30 ....Kerry testimony re Viet Nam.

[doug from upland]

For almost two weeks, I have been calling newspapers, TV stations, radio stations, and talk shows. That is what you can do to advance it. Get on a talk show and ask about it.

[johnqueuepublic]

That should be a hoot, watching horse face testify that the entire US effort in Vietnam was a war crime, wonder if they will include the part where Kerry states that the Soviet Union and Communism weren't threats.

[Michael.SF.]

You are arguing the facts of the case/incident w/o reflecting on how this makes us look to the lurkers and others who frequent this forum.

I am looking at how others are going to perceive us here at Free Republic, when posts, such as this one, resort to the worse kind of name calling.

Kind of like when people at DU call President Bush a "murderer" as a result of civilian deaths in Iraq. One cannot deny that civilians have died, but labels such as that only make the name caller look foolish.

[Prime Choice]

John Forbes Kerry – Domestic Terrorist

Yep, I'd say that covers Kerry quite nicely.

[johnqueuepublic]

That is about as non sensical a post as I can imagine, what you are saying is that the facts be damned, that perception is everything.

Newsflash - the left hates us, always will. they will twist anything to fram their arguments

Newsflash - DU are pondscum, who the heck cares what riles them up?

Still waiting for you to deal the the fact that Kerry was the national spokesman for an organization that planned to kill US Senators and that he has not rejected that organization.

Ball in your court Michael.

[Kozak]

Bookmark for later.

[syriacus]

.saw Bush's speech today

I'm glad to hear it was good.

[CyberAnt]

"it will be the final nail in the coffin of the Democrat Party, a party that will be crushed at the polls on November 2"

Wow! That's a pretty strong statement!

[estpeter]

Oops....the C Span show is on tomorrow (Sunday night) at 6:30 and 9:30. Sorry.

[CyberAnt]

Well .. it goes along with the testimony Kerry gave before Congress where he was willing to say he witnessed brutal acts by other soldiers .. but never reported them to superior officers.

[johnqueuepublic]

"That's a pretty strong statement!"

Victory through strength.

[johnqueuepublic]

thx for the correction that time works better for me anyway.

planning on taping that and playing with it later.

[syriacus]

its a Drudge story but I havent seen it anywhere.

I can only find it on Rush and Newsmax.

Even on Vacation, Kerry's Foul Mouth Gets No Rest, Friday, March 19, 2004

Well, it turns out Hillary Clinton isn't the only one to use abusive language against Secret Service agents. Foulmouthed John "F." Kerry, noted for his obscenity-laced Web site and naughty interview with Rolling Stone, is at it again.

Trying to relax at the mansion in Idaho to avoid further meltdown, the Massachusetts Democrat saw his photo opportunity on the ski slopes go awry.

The New York Times reported today that Kerry rammed into one of his protectors, fell down and had himself a snow sandwich.

Owwww. The most painful flip-flop of all.

"When asked about the mishap a moment later, he said sharply, 'I don't fall down,' then used an expletive to describe the agent who 'knocked me over.'"

Hmm. If the FCC starts fining Kerry the way it's going after Howard Stern, Mrs. K will have to manage her investments better.

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I can just imagine what "President" Kerry's Fireside chats would be like.

My fellow citizens, Today we stand tall as we pause to raise our [bleep] hands ...

[syriacus]

testimony Kerry gave before Congress where he was willing to say he witnessed brutal acts by other soldiers

Today I was thinking....

If Kerry knew of brutal incidents, shouldn't Kerry have fought to have the the "bad behavior" of the soldiers punished?

Why did the alleged brutal acts by our GIs mean we had to withdraw from Vietnam?

That response only teaches unwilling soldiers that they can end a war by (the mere threat of) behaving brutally.

[Scarfo]

I want to remind everyone that Martha Stewart is going to do a year in the can just for fibbing to the feds. Isn't the penalty for plotting to assassinate sitting Senators at least as severe?

[Michael.SF.]

You still seemingly grasp my point. I stated previously I am not arguing the facts of what you have stated, so the proverbial ball you are referring to was never in anyone's court. Let me give a few examples of how your post sounds:

BUSH IS A DESERTER!

CLINTON'S KILLED VINCE FOSTER!

KERRY IS A DOMESTIC TERRORIST!

RUMSFELD IS GUILTY OF WAR CRIMES!!

All of the above comments can be argued as having merit by those who make them. In some cases the case may be better then in others. However, in all cases those statements make the person who made them seem to be an extremist, hell bent on a specific narrow agenda.

There is plenty of ammunition to defeat Kerry w/o using the bombast that is being used in this post.

[Michael.SF.]

Thank you, Hon.

Regards

Michael

[Michael.SF.]

What happened to Hon and Mikey? .... are these guys the type who post and run?

well, johnny, if you must know, since I posted earlier I have run to the hardware store twice, while I was replacing toilet seats in the upstairs and downstairs bath rooms. I also went for a two mile walk down by the waterfront with my wife. I then took an old American Flag to a church where an Eagle scout candidate was offering to properly dispose of American flags, complete with a playing of taps. I then had the car washed by some kids doing a fundraiser to pay for their trip to the Rose Parade in 2005.

And you?

I guess you have been at your computer all day.

[Truth Table]

There is plenty of ammunition to defeat Kerry w/o using the bombast that is being used in this post.

D'ya think that the information in the post itself was bombastic, or just the label of domestic terrorist?