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IAmNotAnAnimal: My thoughts on the Fayetteville, NC "pro-peace" March
me | 03-20-04 | me

Posted on 03/20/2004 3:38:12 PM PST by IAmNotAnAnimal

Edited on 03/21/2004 7:59:26 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

My thoughts on my first Freep ever today in Fayetteville, NC. I arose early and set out on my two hour journey to Fayetteville. During the course of my trip, I kept going over different scenarios in my mind on responses to any sort of idealogical or factual argument I may have with the other side. I admit I was a little stressed.

arriving, the word was that we would have about 30 FReepers (if lucky), and that there were going to be about 1,500 "peace" people. As we gathered and waved our flags, spoke our mantras, the "enemy" slowly ascended the hill. My anxiety about being quick-witted in response to reasoned arguments rapidly vanished. The rag-tag crew that ascended the hill (about 600-700) people looked to be a mish mash of seasoned citizens wearing torn clothing and trash bags, and junior high school students waving such signs as "My dad is a Navy veteran, and he opposes the war".

Okay, so where's your dad? I can't help but mention the ecletic dancer with black and red hair who was "dancing" to the beat of homemade drums. It made me long for the sixties, even though I was born in 1968. I looked around at the 90, yes 90 Freepers and family assembled, all with flags and signs, reciting the pledge of allegiance, I looked at the Vietnam Vets against John Kerry, the veterans from various wars, the wives, and the babies, and then I had to laugh. Not at us, at them. I saw signs that were very germane from "Affordable Housing" to "Dennis Kuchinic" (who)?, and other such mind provoking drivel. I had to laugh, I just had to.

The reporter asked me if I had lost my legs in combat. I explained to the reporter that I had leg braces on, as exhibited by my very visible feet, that my legs were still there.

We marched behind this stately peaceful crowd where we joined up with our brothers and sisters in leather and on Harleys.

We would have loved to debate the other side, but no one seemed to want to come to "the line" to do that. So, I just watched one misguided veteran from the 101st, who upon weighing roughly 300 pounds shout to us that we didn't "get it". I would've shouted back, but he had already turned and gone down the hill, presumptively to get another hot dog.

The FReepers were great, it was like being amongst old friends, but I had just met them. We all shared in fellowship, and were quick to offer help to those who needed it. I would like to thank all the FReepers who were there for their kindness and patriotism. I am only left with one question - when we got to the park there were about a hundred open black umbrellas laying on the side of the "peace" people, and it wasn;t raining. What gives?

Looking forward to the next one. Ranger out.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: aar; answer; antiwar; fayetteville; freeper; ncfreep; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; rally; supportourtroops
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To: funnynurse
Great post, and welcome to Free Republic!
51 posted on 03/20/2004 5:18:21 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: funnynurse
The so-called Peace Marchers always have varied topics and seem to run through all of them. It's as if they like hearing their own voices.

The Peace Marcher that stuck out in my mind was the one in the black belly dancer costume. She probably got kind of chilly after the clouds came up and that wind started blowing.

52 posted on 03/20/2004 5:37:23 PM PST by dstarr (Pacifists are the Parasites of Freedom)
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To: dstarr
I did not see the belly dancer, but can imagine.

Their speakers were mostly so far outside the mainstream, I have to wonder is that the best they can do??

53 posted on 03/20/2004 5:52:07 PM PST by funnynurse
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To: lowbridge
Because its all Americans pretesting on our side. The socialists/anti-Americans receive support, organization and people from foreign countries. Think of the foreign (aka hostile) support behind Move-on and other communist front organizations.
54 posted on 03/20/2004 5:52:17 PM PST by Abogado
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To: IAmNotAnAnimal
BTTT
55 posted on 03/20/2004 5:53:08 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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Bumpus Maximus
56 posted on 03/20/2004 6:01:27 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (I hate hate)
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To: Fiddlstix
ok all i was there and can vouch for IANAA talking to the reporter babe!...well he deserved a little break!!..all the best
57 posted on 03/20/2004 6:02:50 PM PST by rrrod
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To: SC Swamp Fox
'Army Lance Corporal'

That's funny. Usually the posers make themselves a commissioned officer and a graduate of one of the service academies.

It didn't just start recently. My great great grandfather met so many Colonels and Captains and what not in the South after the War, that he said he concluded he was the only private who had survived. He always referred to himself as "Plain Private N.W.E. Long."

He got quoted in Prof. McPherson's new book, BTW. (Not that quote, another one.)

58 posted on 03/20/2004 6:07:03 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: dstarr; TaxRelief
Can I dance at the next FReep? I'm not professional quality, but I look good :-).

(Otherwise known as Hazima Masih)
59 posted on 03/20/2004 6:35:38 PM PST by Tax-chick (Please put your hearts at ease. We have activated the national security mechanism.)
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To: Tax-chick
attagirl ....ya missed a great day today, was alot of fun
60 posted on 03/20/2004 6:40:14 PM PST by rrrod
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To: rrrod
Riding in the morning, then took the 5 kids not at camp out for pizza, and this evening Anoreth and I analyzed V.P. Cheney's recent speech.

I'm proud of all of you, and can't wait to see the pictures!
61 posted on 03/20/2004 6:43:04 PM PST by Tax-chick (Please put your hearts at ease. We have activated the national security mechanism.)
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To: Tax-chick
we have tons of pics..will get em up as soon as the smart half wakes up
62 posted on 03/20/2004 6:44:30 PM PST by rrrod
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To: rrrod
I'll have to see them tomorrow ... on my way to bed with the baby (since his Dad's away).

This *&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&* is a big loud cheer for all our NC FReepers and out-of-state guests. You people are AMERICANS!

Xy
63 posted on 03/20/2004 6:47:05 PM PST by Tax-chick (Please put your hearts at ease. We have activated the national security mechanism.)
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To: Tax-chick
You go girl! The Freeper turnout today was great and the Rolling Thunder turnout was super. I loved it when the guys reved their engines. I have been looking at one of the Peace March sites and saw that they had complained about the reving of the motorcycles. There were some really good signs. One of them was "Home of the Free Because of the Brave." Good sign. My husband met some other vets who were with us today, one of them was someone he had known years ago. Small world.
64 posted on 03/20/2004 6:52:35 PM PST by dstarr (Pacifists are the Parasites of Freedom)
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To: IAmNotAnAnimal
Great Report! Thank you for standing for truth and honor and for America's troops today.

Isn't it grand to be with fellow Freepers? No matter the size of the other side, you always feel that you are enough.

Ninety is a wonderful size for our crowd!

Congratulations again on your first Freep--may it be the first of many. Good job!
65 posted on 03/20/2004 7:08:57 PM PST by exit82 (Toll free number for the Capitol switchboard:1-800-648-3516--let your reps in DC know what you think)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
Did you see me on the news? Didya?

They got me saying "Their antiwar protests will never go unanswered again. There will always be someone there who SUPPORTS the troops!"

Didya see it? Didya? :-)
66 posted on 03/20/2004 7:17:22 PM PST by TaxRelief (March 20. Fayetteville. FReep 'til you drop.)
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To: IAmNotAnAnimal
bump and save
67 posted on 03/20/2004 7:18:10 PM PST by krunkygirl
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To: Vinnie; SC Swamp Fox; taxdeduction2; tgslTakoma; BillF; Hillarys Gate Cult; IAmNotAnAnimal; ...
You missed a few freepers on your list:

SC Swamp Fox
Taxdeduction 2
Taxdeduction 3
DaughterofTGSLTakoma
TGSLTakoma
BillF
Hillary's Gate Cult
I am not an Animal
Bert
Mykdsmom (not mykidsmom)
Fred Mertz
DarthSidious
Mudboy Slim
Hockeyfreak
BufordP

I'll put up more as I remember them
68 posted on 03/20/2004 7:25:54 PM PST by TaxRelief (March 20. Fayetteville. FReep 'til you drop.)
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To: lowbridge; Congressman Billybob; Angelwood; kristinn; Huber; dixie sass; Doctor Raoul; upchuck; ...
By the end of the freep, our numbers approached 200. We signed up some new Freepers, too, I'm sure!

69 posted on 03/20/2004 7:34:20 PM PST by TaxRelief (March 20. Fayetteville. FReep 'til you drop.)
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To: TaxRelief
Didn't see it, link to video? Seems like we made a few waves today. This was absolutely, positively, the best day of 2004 for me so far, thanks fellow FReepers (we never leave our own behind).
70 posted on 03/20/2004 7:36:35 PM PST by IAmNotAnAnimal (Ranger Rules)
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To: rrrod
Thanks for the chair and respite. The reporter babe originally asked me if I lost my legs in combat. I said "no, I lost my legs in a car washing incident, but at least I saved my feet".. She was cute, but not big on humor. Rod, thanks for your hospitality, it really meant a lot to me, I look foward to our next FReep.
71 posted on 03/20/2004 7:39:13 PM PST by IAmNotAnAnimal (Ranger Rules)
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To: GreatEconomy
I guess they just wanted to be prepared in case of
rain.
72 posted on 03/20/2004 7:40:25 PM PST by Twinkie
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To: IAmNotAnAnimal
Thanks for your support for our troops! Good report, and I am glad you now have your first freep under your belt!
73 posted on 03/20/2004 7:43:54 PM PST by ladyinred (democrats have blood on their hands!)
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To: funnynurse
Welcome to Freerepublic! Great post! We look forward to hearing more first hand (ok, second hand) Iraqi reports from you and your hubby.

The next time you talk to him, would you please tell him "Thank you!" from all of us here at freerepublic? ('Thank you' is such an understatement--but how can one really find the words to say it?)

74 posted on 03/20/2004 7:44:37 PM PST by TaxRelief (We came; we freeped; we'll come again. God bless America and God Bless our troops!)
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To: IAmNotAnAnimal
It was news14.com, but I can't find a link to the video. I recorded it though :-)
75 posted on 03/20/2004 7:54:46 PM PST by TaxRelief (We came; we freeped; we'll come again. God bless America and God Bless our troops!)
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To: ladyinred
How can I get the cleaned up version of what I originally typed in place of my original post. Also, is there a way to get this BTTT so other FReepers can see that it really does work...let me know, I'm still pretty new to this
76 posted on 03/20/2004 7:59:59 PM PST by IAmNotAnAnimal (Ranger Rules)
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To: IAmNotAnAnimal
Thanks for the great report!

Believe me, I was with you all in spirit and thank you from the bottom of my heart for taking a stand for our Troops.
77 posted on 03/20/2004 8:04:02 PM PST by Flora McDonald (Stand the Storm!)
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To: kristinn
You have been quoted here:

http://www.nbc17.com/news/2937982/detail.html
78 posted on 03/20/2004 8:11:55 PM PST by TaxRelief (We came; we freeped; we'll come again. God bless America and God Bless our troops!)
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To: TaxRelief; Huber
Thank you so much for a great day of FReeping after a great night of meeting other FReepers at the local bar!

You and the other NC FReepers did so well in setting this up. And perfect weather also!

CBS Radio News at 4 PM started with reports on antiwar protests around the world on the 1 year anniversary.

"Thousands protest the war in NY," they said, followed by a sentence or two about that protest.

Next, CBS said something like, "In Fayetteville, NC antiwar protestors were countered by others for a very public debate on the war." Background tape was crowd noise as we chanted "Saddam needs a hug, Saddam needs a hug."

CBS mentioned a few other protests, but, at that hour, no mention of other counterprotests. Kudos for your efforts that helped publicize opposition to those who wish for the return of Saddam!

(Later CBS radio reports mentioned that thousands of LA antiwar protestors were countered by several hundred who supported the war. I assume that was RonDog and the other valiant FReepers of So. Calif.)

79 posted on 03/20/2004 8:18:26 PM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: Flora McDonald
Your signs were used to great effect and were admired by all FReepers and patriots who saw them!

Sorry that you couldn't be there to enjoy the FReep. Hope that your family member is on the road to recovery.
80 posted on 03/20/2004 8:24:07 PM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: IAmNotAnAnimal
It was great meeting you and FReeping with you.

I don't recall you telling me your screen name, just your real name. However, I believe that you were the gentleman whose sign I carried down the hill and who was given a bottle of water by the officer. (Wish I had gotten that officer's name so I could commend him to his chief.)

Thank you and all veterans for my freedom!

81 posted on 03/20/2004 8:40:08 PM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: BillF; IAmNotAnAnimal
Good coverage here with a video link:

http://www.news14charlotte.com/content/local_news/?ArID=58236&SecID=2
82 posted on 03/20/2004 8:44:01 PM PST by TaxRelief (We came; we freeped; we'll come again. God bless America and God Bless our troops!)
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To: BillF
Don't have to thank me, it is an honor to serve. ANd the police there were obviously on our side and showed great professional restraint in staying "neutral". Those guarding the memorial form the "peace" people turned and said the pledge of allegiance with us when we started. We will persevere, we will win, be we the lone survivors.
83 posted on 03/20/2004 8:44:41 PM PST by IAmNotAnAnimal (Ranger Rules)
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To: rrrod; onyx

Pinging myself a place to see the photos tomorrow.

84 posted on 03/20/2004 9:04:58 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold.)
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To: onyx
ping for tommorow
85 posted on 03/20/2004 9:25:17 PM PST by IAmNotAnAnimal (Ranger Rules)
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To: IAmNotAnAnimal

Thank you for the ping.

Your wrote a fabulous report!
86 posted on 03/20/2004 9:28:51 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold.)
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To: onyx

      
87 posted on 03/20/2004 9:38:26 PM PST by TaxRelief (We came; we freeped; we'll come again. God bless America and God Bless our troops!)
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To: TaxRelief
Oh thank you.

I love that sign in top photo.
Whose is it?


Off subject, but that house in the background is to die for. :)
88 posted on 03/20/2004 10:01:08 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold.)
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To: IAmNotAnAnimal
Was unable to make it (from Raleigh) today......and sorry we missed it (The Lovely Wife is in Spartanburg, SC over the weekend for a karate tournament.........and took 2nd place in sparring in this LARGE tournament :) ). Glad y'all had fun. Could use another good FReep; been too long. God bless.
89 posted on 03/20/2004 10:06:51 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: TaxRelief
Thank you is more than sufficient. Like every soldier I have ever met, my spouse does not seek recognition. He seeks freedom for his family, his fellow Americans, his future.


I wish I knew how to post an article from the F'ville paper here. In the edition coming out tomorrow there is an article about the rally/counter demonstration. It says something along the lines of "speaker after speaker, many of them military spouses..."

Ok, I was there, but did I miss all the spouses??

I surely did not miss the Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual speaker, the pro-Palestine speaker, the International Socialist speaker, etc, etc.

Just wondering if any of y'all caught the spouse bonanza!

Freepers/other groups at this rally did not appear to have speakers lined up. Is there a reason?? I don't mean to criticize, just wondering again.
90 posted on 03/20/2004 10:35:37 PM PST by funnynurse
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To: lowbridge
"That may explain some of the rabble rousers but not all."

Well, that's the rest of the explanation, they're rabble rousers, we're not. Unless we need to become such, then I imagine we'll be able to rise to the occassion.

91 posted on 03/21/2004 12:59:40 AM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: lowbridge
I worried about this for a while too; "Why is it that the lefties always manage to get more people at their demonstrations than us?" I was concerned especially after attending my last FReep.

Then it came to me as I was driving home. The reason that they always get bigger crowds is because they have too much time on their hands. College kids, unemployed, street bums, welfare recipients, etc...

I drove home watching families having picnics in parks, playing little league, working in their yards, and otherwise "LIVING" the American dream. Most of these people beleive in America and are willing to defend it. They are the people who stand, stay quiet, and put their hats over their hearts when listening to the National Anthem. And they are doing what they should be doing... Taking care of their families, living, being free.

I think the most important part is to make sure that these people don't get too complacent, that they vote, at the ballots and with their pocketbooks.

I just keep this in mind....

A "Peace" protest doesn't make peace, just like A uniform doesn't make a patriot. (J. F'n Kerry, you listenin?)
92 posted on 03/21/2004 3:42:39 AM PST by pop-aye (For every journey, there is a higher path.)
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To: onyx
I love that sign in top photo. Whose is it?

That was one of Flora MacDonald's masterpieces! They were incredibly effective - funny. concise and engaging. They really got the point across, especially with the media, the police and numerous passers by!

We'll find a way to get lots more photos up later. (The connection here at the hotel is sooooo slow that it's just not worth it.)

93 posted on 03/21/2004 3:50:50 AM PST by Huber (Have you mocked a pierced transgendered socialist for Saddam today?)
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To: TaxRelief
Great photos ... love the sign!
94 posted on 03/21/2004 4:05:28 AM PST by Tax-chick (Please put your hearts at ease. We have activated the national security mechanism.)
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To: IAmNotAnAnimal
You can post a message to AdminModerator about fixing the formatting in your original report, if you want to. Don't know if they'll do it, but you can ask.
95 posted on 03/21/2004 4:11:29 AM PST by Tax-chick (Please put your hearts at ease. We have activated the national security mechanism.)
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To: Vinnie; kristinn; Huber; dixie sass; Congressman Billybob; upchuck; Darth Sidious; Helms; ...
Here's the photo from the front page of the Fayetteville Observer. The sign says "AMERICAN SOLDIERS PROTECTED YOUR WHINY HINEY TODAY - FreeRepublic.com".

http://www.fayettevillenc.com/
96 posted on 03/21/2004 4:22:55 AM PST by Huber (Have you mocked a pierced transgendered socialist for Saddam today?)
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To: pop-aye
I worried about this for a while too; "Why is it that the lefties always manage to get more people at their demonstrations than us?" I was concerned especially after attending my last FReep.

Then it came to me as I was driving home. The reason that they always get bigger crowds is because they have too much time on their hands. College kids, unemployed, street bums, welfare recipients, etc...

I drove home watching families having picnics in parks, playing little league, working in their yards, and otherwise "LIVING" the American dream. Most of these people beleive in America and are willing to defend it. They are the people who stand, stay quiet, and put their hats over their hearts when listening to the National Anthem. And they are doing what they should be doing... Taking care of their families, living, being free.

Great points! Our mission is not to outnumber the underemployed rabble rousers, but rather to present an effective message to those people who are living the American dream that there are many others, like them, and that the protestors are not like them! We point out that the "peace protestors" are socialists, traitors, supportors of terrorism, race agitators, homosexual activists and members of other similar groups, and that their objective is to weaken America, both culturally and militarily.

By doing so, we help to reassure these good Americans that they are not alone, and that the unwashed protesters are an aberration, a wart on our society, but not the mainstream of our society.

97 posted on 03/21/2004 4:36:06 AM PST by Huber (Have you mocked a pierced transgendered socialist for Saddam today?)
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To: lowbridge
The fact that the silent majority is in the streets at all says the times are changing. We stayed home and harumphed during Vietnam. We stayed home when Reagan put Pershing missles in Europe. Most of us stayed home during the Clinton years when we had something to be truly outraged about.

We finally got off our butts during the priod of the great inconvenience.

For the socialists this is their avocation. We for the most part volunteer in the hospitals, the Scouts, the schools... So the fact that we are in the streets at all should be taken as a positive sign.
98 posted on 03/21/2004 5:13:39 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Doctor Raoul has brass testicles)
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To: funnynurse
Now that we have a Fayetteville connection, we'll have someone "local" to line up speakers for the next Fayetteville Freep!
99 posted on 03/21/2004 5:14:28 AM PST by TaxRelief (We came; we freeped; we'll come again. God bless America and God Bless our troops!)
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To: Huber

Here's a view of the Freepers on the Grassy Knoll along Hay St!


100 posted on 03/21/2004 5:16:31 AM PST by Huber (Have you mocked a pierced transgendered socialist for Saddam today?)
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