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9/11: For The Record
The Washington Post ^ | Monday, March 22, 2004 | By Condoleezza Rice

Posted on 03/21/2004 9:40:35 PM PST by Jewels1091

The al Qaeda terrorist network posed a threat to the United States for almost a decade before the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Throughout that period -- during the eight years of the Clinton administration and the first eight months of the Bush administration prior to Sept. 11 -- the U.S. government worked hard to counter the al Qaeda threat.

During the transition, President-elect Bush's national security team was briefed on the Clinton administration's efforts to deal with al Qaeda. The seriousness of the threat was well understood by the president and his national security principals. In response to my request for a presidential initiative, the counterterrorism team, which we had held over from the Clinton administration, suggested several ideas, some of which had been around since 1998 but had not been adopted. No al Qaeda plan was turned over to the new administration

We adopted several of these ideas. We committed more funding to counterterrorism and intelligence efforts. We increased efforts to go after al Qaeda's finances. We increased American support for anti-terror activities in Uzbekistan.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bush43; condoleezzarice; counterterrorism; intelligence; nationalsecurity; prequel
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With all the crap coming out, those who DON'T want to believe won't
1 posted on 03/21/2004 9:40:35 PM PST by Jewels1091
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To: Jewels1091
Pretty good rapid response after the 60 Minutes show!
2 posted on 03/21/2004 9:54:55 PM PST by Citizen Soldier
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To: Jewels1091
She has certainly written a good article for those that care enough to read it and learn.

Just as you said, those who DON'T want to believe it, won't.

I'm bookmarking this one anyway. I have the feeling this may be useful. I have a couple of friends that need to hear this.
3 posted on 03/21/2004 9:56:45 PM PST by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: Jewels1091
In the immediate aftermath of the attacks, the president, like all Americans, wanted to know who was responsible. It would have been irresponsible not to ask a question about all possible links, including to Iraq -- a nation that had supported terrorism and had tried to kill a former president. Once advised that there was no evidence that Iraq was responsible for Sept. 11, the president told his National Security Council on Sept. 17 that Iraq was not on the agenda and that the initial U.S. response to Sept. 11 would be to target al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan.

And that is indeed what happened contrary to the lies put forth by one Mr Clarke and 60 Minutes.

4 posted on 03/21/2004 10:04:14 PM PST by jwalsh07 (We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
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To: Jewels1091
I'd say Bush is unleashing the dogs, but Condie is NO dog! However, she just chomped down hard on those willy lovers!
5 posted on 03/21/2004 10:06:12 PM PST by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: Citizen Soldier
Yes - a strong detail response as well.

I really like the last paragraph in particular. If Bush is gun-ho on Iraq, then why did he choose to topple the taliban in Afghan first. if he wanna strike Iraq back in 2001, he could have done it with all the goodwill in the country and around the globe. But he didn't, so why? Maybe he knew something that the "trying to ave my own legacy and make a quick buck" Clarke not telling us.
6 posted on 03/21/2004 10:13:41 PM PST by FRgal4u
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To: Jewels1091
I spent Saturday at the ANSWER rally in San Francisco, just to check out the loonies. This sign sums up the attitude of pretty much everyone there. Three thousand people dead, and the Left is gleeful.

Please feel free to use this pic (it's mine, no copyright).


7 posted on 03/21/2004 10:23:42 PM PST by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: Jewels1091
Excellent . Didn't like having to register to read the entire thing, especially because they require too much information, but it was worth it so I could print it to give to my co worker. He is devoted to 60 minutes, believes anything that is on that leftist show so I want to be armed in the morning with a rebuttal or two.
8 posted on 03/21/2004 10:38:26 PM PST by ladyinred (democrats have blood on their hands!)
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To: nutmeg
find later bump
9 posted on 03/21/2004 10:39:14 PM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John Fin al-Qerry)
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To: Jewels1091
Condoleeza Rice shouldn't have to defend herself. Richard Clarke is an imbecile.
10 posted on 03/21/2004 10:45:20 PM PST by fiftymegaton
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To: fiftymegaton
Bingo!

It's Richard Clarke and Rand Beers who should be defending themselves, after all, they wee the ones who did nothing about the attacks against us by Al-Qaeda, and by not responding, they only emboldened Al-Qaeda.

These two flak's for John Kerry will whither on the vine, once the light of day is shown upon their connections to the Kerry Campaign, and once again, they will be exposed for the frauds they are

11 posted on 03/21/2004 10:52:23 PM PST by MJY1288 (Can't Blame Bush for the Negative Ad's When There's Nothing Positive To Say About John Kerry)
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To: Starve The Beast
I can't get over being disgusted because there are so many people in this country on a parallel with that scumbag holding the 'I love NY even more without the towers' sign that John Kerry will almost definitely have 35% of the electorate voting for him. Sickens me to no end. Although it is examples like that sign that might make some of those 35+% wake the hell up. I will circulate the picture as much as possible.
12 posted on 03/21/2004 10:54:26 PM PST by fiftymegaton
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To: endthematrix
No, she's no dog. She's a typical Republican women, very attractive and smart.
13 posted on 03/21/2004 11:08:44 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism corrupts. Absolute Liberalism corrupts absolutely.)
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To: Starve The Beast
I am not thinking good thoughts about the sign carrier,not good at all.
14 posted on 03/21/2004 11:18:07 PM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Jewels1091
Glad she's on our side.
15 posted on 03/22/2004 12:45:39 AM PST by risk
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To: MEG33; archy
Despite what some have suggested, we received no intelligence that terrorists were preparing to attack the homeland using airplanes as missiles, though some analysts speculated that terrorists might hijack airplanes to try to free U.S.-held terrorists. The FAA even issued a warning to airlines and aviation security personnel that "the potential for a terrorist operation, such as an airline hijacking to free terrorists incarcerated in the United States, remains a concern."
I have to chime in at this point and say that we should have been ready for this. If we aren't ready for such contingencies, then we're to blame. But I dont' blame Condi or GW for this personally. We all share the responsibility.

I heard that we still can't knock down a rogue plane over DC. That's just wrong. We need to iron out those problems and be better prepared.

We also need to talk about what we'll do when a nuke goes off in a large American urban center. It's not being discussed nearly enough yet. That's the same kind of thinking (ignoring the inevitability) that got us into 9/11.

16 posted on 03/22/2004 12:57:30 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
People hate the searches,the time in line,no curbside checkin and imagine how it would have been before we were hit.We pay a price for our open society...Some paid all.As to knocking out a plane over DC..The debris has to fall!Is that what you mean?
17 posted on 03/22/2004 1:12:53 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: risk
I'm prepared for a nuke to go off in a major city knowing it will be a blue state urban center full of left wing haters of Bush and fighting terrorists.

Soak that in before my post gets pulled for that point of view. Basically, if it's San Fran or NY or Chicgao, why should I care? They don't care to stop the people that will kill them. So why should I worry about thier lives?

A lot of people here will complain about my thoughts and this will get pulled. But who are the people in our country and around the world that are whining the most about fighting terror? The ones that live in those huge cities that are the target of the terrorists. Sure, there are some conservatives there too.

I suggest they move. Especially if Kerry is elected.
18 posted on 03/22/2004 1:19:26 AM PST by Fledermaus ( Frm ^;;^ says, "Tick off France, Germany, Spain and Al Qaeda - VOTE BUSH!")
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To: MEG33
I think we should have had an opportunity to knock down the planes, and apparently we didn't. We couldn't even scramble our fighter coverage in time. The issues in DC are apparently continuing. And yes, we need to be prepared to scatter debris, at least to have the choice. If we don't, this will happen again. Our post Cold War decline in readiness really hurt on 9/11/2001. That can never happen again.
19 posted on 03/22/2004 1:21:39 AM PST by risk
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To: Starve The Beast
Send that picture to Rush or let someone on his staff there know about this picture, and where it was taken.
20 posted on 03/22/2004 1:25:00 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Fledermaus
While I don't exactly agree with your thoughts (I'm in a Dem urban zone), but I don't find your comments abusive or disturbing. I find them refreshingly motivated and charged with concern. These days I'm much more upset by those who don't seem to care.

But I have no plans to move. Someone has to vote against the trend in the urban zones!
21 posted on 03/22/2004 1:27:46 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
We need to improve but we will never be a fortress...It just isn't possible.I live far enough away from the city that I only worry about those who would be most likely targeted and my family who flies frequently.

I don't think they will use the same method again because we are more apt to attack the hi jackers.....!
22 posted on 03/22/2004 1:31:11 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: risk
I don't agree with my thoughts either! I don't want any attack.

But we all know, deep down, when we see the kind of horrible rhetoric on the left we kind of want them to get the brunt of it since they are going to do nothing to prevent it.

I'm just getting sick and tired of their whining. And here's another loose comment I've made to get a post removed - I'd almost consider joining Al-Qaeda and help them nuke these America hating left wing jerks! Of course it's a jest, a simple comment to point out that these people are idiots and, in my opinion, don't deserve to live in this free society they don't care to protect. There are millions of people around the world that would be happy to take their place here. I know, I know, the "America - Love it or Leave it" bumper sticker is passe, but I'm ready to revive it.

We see the Montana militia folks aren't doing their jobs! LOL
23 posted on 03/22/2004 1:34:26 AM PST by Fledermaus ( Frm ^;;^ says, "Tick off France, Germany, Spain and Al Qaeda - VOTE BUSH!")
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To: MEG33
If any of us is harmed, then all of us is harmed -- I'm sure you'll agree. Yes, I'm not for "fortress America" and such measures as national ID cards, or the like. But I do think we should cut off immigration from countries who don't screen well for terrorism. That might just include France for now! And we should really seal our borders. Maybe we can learn something from Israel about it. And I'm sure NORAD realizes that it's on notice to scramble more responsively. This is a hot war, not a cold one.
24 posted on 03/22/2004 1:35:44 AM PST by risk
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To: Fledermaus
Augh, that's too much :)

I've heard too many "Mossad did it" comments about 9/11. I think Madrid may quiet those nuts down for a week or two, but we don't have to encourage it...
25 posted on 03/22/2004 1:37:22 AM PST by risk
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To: Jewels1091
It needs to be pointed out that if the drones were not armed until sometime in 2001, then the NBC video of a drone zeroed in on bin Laden at one of his terror camps could have only looked at and not shot at Osama. This seems to let Clinton off the hook a bit.

Hated as al Qaeda is today, remember too the sort of international outcry either president would have had for blowing up a foreign armed cap prior to 9-11. While it would be defensible, it would probably be swiftly condemned by the same Euroweenies who thought we had no right to invade Iraq.
26 posted on 03/22/2004 1:42:57 AM PST by Tall_Texan (The War on Terror is mere collateral damage to the Democrats' War on Bush.)
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To: risk
I never ever again want anyone to go through what those people in New York,over Pennsylvania and Washington did.I mean I am not personally concerned for my own personal safety.I felt so very close to people I lived thousands of miles from.

You hit one of us,you hit all of us.One cannot "seal" a border as large as ours,but we can do much better.There is a lot of shoreline,too.
27 posted on 03/22/2004 1:52:07 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: risk
What we found was that the FAA isn't really in control once flights are in the air.

If you read the transcripts and listen to the calls from the airplanes to the ground (not the ones from passengers), the bureaucratic BS of the airlines was horrendous. But the FAA would have been worse.

Also, the terrorists were trained well enough to know how to turn off many of the anti-hijaking features the planes had.

Four planes from three different airlines changed course. By the time they even got organized it was too late. Thankfully, the FAA under Cheney's orders forced all flights to the ground or their is no telling how many more they had planned. There were reports of people getting off some of those flights that could have been terrorists.

It's still widely speculated that the Pennsylvania flight was shot down by our own fighters. They were in place at the time and the order was given to shoot down any plane that didn't respond. I believe they story about the passengers trying to takeover is true, but we had a chance to shoot that one down.

It also shows that although we had the capability, the act was so unexpected I don't think any chain of command decision to shoot them out the sky could have been made in time to stop the ones hitting New York. Maybe the Pentagon and definitely the PA plane.

We were just lulled into complicity after the fall of the Soviet Union. Regardless of how many revisionist want to change the facts, Clinton did nothing and before that Reagan didn't do much. Bush 41 at least fought a war but everyone thought once it was over that everything would be done with.

I don't buy the "Bush didn't finish the job in 1991" BS from the liberals (the ones that demanded sanctions be allowed to continue while after the war they complained the sanctions were bad and starving "women and children") since they didn't want to fight to begin with.

But Bush and company did a bad job of the post-war effects by letting Saddam's military keep too many weapons and still pretending Saddam was legitimate. And then they used words that made Shiites and Kurds think we'd back them if they tried to overthrow the Iraq government. Bay of Pigs all over.

Now all the left wing idiots complain the son finished the job they said the father should have accomplished even though they never wanted the father to do it in the first place.

Talk about two-faced opportunism.
28 posted on 03/22/2004 1:52:11 AM PST by Fledermaus ( Frm ^;;^ says, "Tick off France, Germany, Spain and Al Qaeda - VOTE BUSH!")
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To: Fledermaus; ALOHA RONNIE; Travis McGee; Grampa Dave; Squantos; blackie; archy; MEG33; backhoe; ...
It's past time for all of our decent and upright leaders to admit that the USA has been appeasing its domestic enemies for 55 years. When Truman undercut McArthur in Korea, that was the moment we started seeing the division occur. Why? Was it a conspiracy? I think it was fear. We were tired of fighting. And our enemies knew it. The effectiveness of other conspiracies increased after that Faustian moment.
29 posted on 03/22/2004 1:58:37 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
...fear... *external* enemies knew it...
30 posted on 03/22/2004 2:03:35 AM PST by risk
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To: Fledermaus; risk
I remember the world did not want to finish the job and go to Baghdad...all that wonderful coalition had its big drawbacks....

"if only" are the saddest words.
31 posted on 03/22/2004 2:06:40 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: risk
Truman did not want to go to war with Mao or Uncle Joe...and I do think we were tired.
32 posted on 03/22/2004 2:08:29 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MEG33
I've forgiven Truman. But sometimes I think McArthur proved he was superior by stepping down without incident. Also, I forgive those who opposed the Vietnam war -- with dignity and consideration to the troops. That doesn't include Bill, Hillary, and Kerry.
33 posted on 03/22/2004 2:16:49 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
We should have helped the warlord Chiang Kai Shek more at the proper time to keep Mao out of power at the end of WW2

There were many communists and fellow travelers in and around our State Dept during and after WW2(Yes McCarthy was right.)It was terribly fashionable.
34 posted on 03/22/2004 2:22:24 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: risk
Mc Arthur may have been right about pushing on, but he was not CIC.He had no right to defy the President,he was not elected.
35 posted on 03/22/2004 2:25:57 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MEG33
Agreed.
36 posted on 03/22/2004 2:28:41 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
I don't forgive those who undercut our troops morale and spat on them and those groups like the Weathermen,the Black Panthers were a bunch of thugs.

I don't forgive the govt for not giving the funding they promised to the S Vietnamese when we left.I don't blame Kerry for being anti war,I blame the way he did it.I listened to the 71 speech yesterday and my stomach is still upset.
37 posted on 03/22/2004 2:31:44 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: risk
It's past time for all of our decent and upright leaders to admit that the USA has been appeasing its domestic enemies for 55 years. When Truman undercut McArthur in Korea, that was the moment we started seeing the division occur. Why? Was it a conspiracy? I think it was fear. We were tired of fighting. And our enemies knew it. The effectiveness of other conspiracies increased after that Faustian moment.

That and distraction. Truman did very well with containing Soviet expansionism in Berlin and Greece, and a juggling act can only be carried on for so long before the inevitable comes to pass.

But even given Truman's personality and personal shortcomings, I thing he was horrified at the possibility the public would learn just how much his predecessor had bargained away. He kept the lid on as well as he could, but our adversaries were not playing by his rules.

The funny thing is, the American public probably would have supported him had he taken the steps then that were really necessary. And he might be remembered as the American president who accomplished what had to wait for Reagan to come along to get done. -archy-/-

38 posted on 03/22/2004 2:41:01 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: Fledermaus
We see the Montana militia folks aren't doing their jobs! LOL

I ain't heard tell of the muslum terrorists pulling off a successful raid around Billings or Helena lately. And as for Missoula, I reckon the Hmong who settled thereabouts from Laos would take care of any problems of that sort just fine.


39 posted on 03/22/2004 2:54:25 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: archy; Cincinatus' Wife
And he might be remembered as the American president who accomplished what had to wait for Reagan to come along to get done.

Bump! And thanks for the analysis.

40 posted on 03/22/2004 3:48:55 AM PST by risk
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To: MEG33
I don't blame Kerry for being anti war ...

Yeah, it seems one can be for or against a war in a democracy. It also seems one can change his mind. But one had best be very careful about communicating these personal views. Kerry and Fonda were neither considerate nor principled. I think they both wanted media attention and to lead a trend. And I think Kerry wanted to save his hide. He obviously valued his carcass more than anyone else's.

41 posted on 03/22/2004 3:54:27 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
Reagan cut through the crap and focused on the enemies of our country. Bush is doing the same thing and the Left, here at home an abroad, will do everything to stop him from keeping the U.S. protected from assimilation.
42 posted on 03/22/2004 4:03:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: risk
Fonda was a disgrace,but Kerry moreso because he betrayed his comrades in arms,accusing them of wholesale rape,dismemberment,torture,murder,etc.He caused many citizens to look on vets as murderers,he promoted the N Vietnamese POV in Paris.He gave the left an advantage they've used for over 30 yrs.

Yesterday McCain said he will campaign for President Bush on his positive accomplishments but will not say anything against Kerry because they are friends.
43 posted on 03/22/2004 4:10:53 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yes. Watching Ted Kennedy tonight on Russert made me think along the same lines. The left/Democrats were given a run of about 50 years to lead us (minus the Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan years), and while some of the promises sounded good a lot of them collapsed of their own weight. While the Democratic party tries to reorganize itself, the left has gained an even stronger grasp of its throat. All the while they're screaming because they're just not in charge anymore. It's a terror to them that is as bad as any Jihad or Marxist plot -- not being in charge.

No wonder they keep stepping over the line. I mean how many times have we heard of massive reorganizations to the Constitution like the electoral college, the proscription of foreign born presidents, and the end of the second amendment? All in about two generations? Two of them this last three years?
44 posted on 03/22/2004 4:12:32 AM PST by risk
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To: texasflower
Condi just lowered the boom on Clarke's viewpoint on Fox...She hit him on the facts of terror by Al Queda during his tenure and that although he had ideas that were implemented,he presented no strategy to attack Al Queda and hooted at the idea she had not heard of AlQueda when she got to the White House.He has a different view of how to conduct the war on terror....and he did not get the job he wanted as 2nd in charge of Homeland Security.
45 posted on 03/22/2004 4:20:56 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MEG33
I hear Clarke's axe grinding....
46 posted on 03/22/2004 4:22:40 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
They say Andrea Mitchell was on Imus virtually endorsing all of Clarke's viewpoint.Izaz is accusing Clarke of not being honest in his opinions and the history on Fox.Podhoretz is after Clarke now.Says all this is a bonanza for Kerry.
47 posted on 03/22/2004 4:30:08 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MEG33
It'll backfire. The American people have their own best interest in mind this time. The real difference between 9/11 and Vietnam is that the V.C. hadn't really attacked us at home. But if you're over thirty, you can't help but remember an onslaught of horrific terror aimed at us and Israel. Pearl Harbor saw a few dozen civilian casualties, if I'm correct. The thousands who died were primarily military. But on 9/11 it was the other way around.

We aren't soon going to forget.

And we aren't soon going to forget who wants to couch this war in terms of a police action against a limited group when it's really half the Islamic world that wants to roast our stomachs. This is world war and only idiots and the power greedy are willing to sell us on the idea that it isn't.
48 posted on 03/22/2004 4:35:59 AM PST by risk
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To: MEG33
I was watching that! She didn't look like someone to tangle with did she?

She was firm and articulate. She really let him have it.

Did you happen to see the way Mansoor Ijaz reacted to it a few minutes later?

Boy was he mad!!
49 posted on 03/22/2004 4:48:06 AM PST by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: risk
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NEVER FORGET


...Why did the CLINTONS refuse 3 Offers from the Sudan during the 1990's to give our No. 1 Terrorist Enemy OSAMA bin LADEN on a Silver Platter that would have prevented the Attacks on US on September 11, 2001..?


'Remember the Lost and Suffering on September 11, 2001'

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33
(Photos & Thead)


NEVER FORGET
50 posted on 03/22/2004 5:07:52 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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