Skip to comments.Mansoor Ijaz slamming Richard Clarke on Fox'N Friends
Posted on 03/22/2004 4:28:39 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
Mansoor Ijaz just called Richard Clarke essentially a liar. Challenged virtually all of his claims -- and accused Clarke of stonewalling Ijaz's efforts to capture Bin Laden via the Sudanese.
Gergen had the DNC fax talking points down pat: 'Clarke is politically neutral'.
Wonder if there were any phone calls from Clarke's digs to The Squid in England, for pointers? ;-)
I've never seen anything to suggest to me that Ijaz and Woolsey are laundering money. That's a serious charge to make on a public forum. Their partnership is perhaps not the usual one, but I don't know enough of their history to understand how it began. I think it would benefit us as we evaluate all the information we get to keep it in mind, but I don't think it's necessarily inconsistent with America's interests. But I don't know enough of the story to really know. I would hope that FNC, which relies so heavily on Ijaz's info, have investigated his credibility.
"He probably thinks that the Democrats have a chance this time and so he's trying to suck around for another job," Alexander Haig (search), former secretary of state under President Reagan, told Fox News on Monday.
"This is an outrage to claim President Bush is responsible for nine years of total incompetence in confronting international terrorism that he [Clarke] was a part of," especially when "the Clinton administration did nothing but warn, warn, warn and throw a few rockets" at terrorists.
Bush, however, "has a firm grasp on the global threat that is confronting the United States, the free world and nations that believe in the rule of law," Haig continued
Thanks for that information.
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I don't think that even the evil Clintons would have done that. But there are some facts about the end of their administration that make me wonder about how much they knew. My gut level feeling is that they knew something was up but they didn't know exactly what. Bill signed that EO putting Mad Albight in charge of domestic terrorism efforts which went into effect Oct. 1 before the election, IIRC. I've always been suspicious about that order and I still think it's evidence that he knew something was up. I also think that one of the reason's Hill had that poisoned look on her face during Pres. Bush's address to the joint congress after the attack was that she expected whatever was coming to help her husband, but instead, it gave a new meaning and definition to Pres. Bush's presidency.
I would like to know why he writes it now. Obviously it's for the Clintons, but why?
All I know is the dude comes out with information that are hard for any reporter to get. If he has a backdoor to the CIA, I have never found our government rebuking him for talking too much about top secret stuff.
What trigerred my curiousity is the name of the investment company, which illustrates its Islamic background to attract the money from the Saudis, and Kuwaitis? Do you suppose all these thousands of Mosques in the US get built by US money?
You have to wonder if there may have been a little sugar in it for Gergen (stock options, friends calling in favors, etc.):
And I do think it likely that Rice would be percieved as more interested in Russo/Sino issues as she was an old Communist fighter to begin with. Whether that was the actual case is hard to imagine, except the Clarke was known as "difficult" even by the Berger cadre that tried to portray him as a great intellectual synergist.
I think the point is what was in Clinton's briefing to Bush. That would be on record. Did Clinton think the Al Queda and bin Laden was low level enough that emminent threat wasn't highlighted as major-league in his brief?
If that was the case then much of what prima-donna asprin factory vetter Clarke maintains goes out the window.
"Liberals simply can't grasp the problem Lexis-Nexis poses to their incessant lying." - Ann Coulter (The Connecticut Peach)
Ijaz is founder and chairman of The Crescent Partnerships, a series of New York-based private equity partnerships focused exclusively on the development of national security technologies. The firms partners include retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Abrahamson, former director of President Reagans Strategic Defense Initiative and Turkeys Global Group. Former CIA Director James Woolsey serves as vice chairman of Crescents Board of Governors.
As a private American citizen, Ijaz negotiated Sudans counterterrorism offer to the Clinton administration in April 1997 and proposed the framework for a cease-fire of hostilities in Kashmir between Indian security forces and Muslim separatists in August 2000.
Ijaz is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and has been featured twice in BARRONs Currency Roundtable discussions. He has contributed to the editorial pages of the Financial Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, Newsweek and International Herald Tribune on matters related to nuclear proliferation, terrorism, politics and the Islamic world.
Ijaz received his Bachelors degree magna cum laude in Physics from the University of Virginia and received his Master of Science degree in Mechanical Engineering from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
I don't know that his info is considered "top-secret." It's always been the media's role to uncover what's going on. If the government were to ask journalists not to reveal what they know, they would howl censorship. There are times, of course, when the press does suppress what it knows at the request of the government, but from what I can tell, it's specific info related to specific operations for a short period of time. I don't think that Ijaz's info necessarily fits those parameters, but I could be wrong.
I've found the name of his company curious as well, but he IS Muslim--he's never denied it. He just wants to see more Muslims speak out against terrorism. You pose an interesting question about the building of mosques. If he were using the funds of his investment company in anti-American ventures, he's be a FOOL to be so public. And he doesn't strike me as a fool. Maybe not always right, but not stupid. I'm just not sure what to make of him, but I always listen to what he has to say. I hope that our government is too.
Born in Florida in 1961 and raised in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia, Ijaz lives in New York City today.
Ijaz's father, Dr. Mujaddid Ahmed Ijaz (deceased), a prominent American physicist, was an early pioneer in developing the intellectual infrastructure of Pakistan's nuclear program. Ijaz earned All-American weightlifting status while attending the University of Virginia.
Perhaps because, much to his chagrin, Clarke never HAD a cabinet-level position.
There are cabinet members, and there are not-cabinet-members.
Clarke was not a cabinet member.
Wow, didn't know that, and the Left likes to talk about the Clearchannel conspiracy, that actually looks like one.
Why,, a Junkyard Pit Bull of course! :)
I think Hillary's pained look was more like the pain
Vampires feel in the light of the sun!
was recoiling from President Bushs' Light!
She didn't expect him to shine so brightly,
and perhaps she had even hoped 911 would doom his fate!
Remember...another of the Clinton foes...Author Barbara
Olsen died on 911 in the plane that hit the Pentagon.
And Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton was also on a
plane that same morning (he and Barbara were asked to
be guests that day for Politically Incorrect, and were
flying out to keep this appointment!)
Tom Fitton's plane never took off...due to the World Trade
Center Attacks, the airport stopped all flights.
What would have happened that day...it the planes had hit
the Capital Building, and all of the Clinton's foes had
perished that day?
Was a Political Coupe planned for 9-11?
We certainly see the fever in the Anti-War protests...
And Hillary's pained expression during Bush's
speech on 9-20 may have been disappointment that the
coupe didn't go as planned...
Another thread here: Mansoor Ijaz rips Richard Clarke a new one on FOXNEWS
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First of all, the tale of him being ignored by Condi was spun in Age of Sacred Terror and didn't get a lot of traction. As she is a black Republican, it is gospel to the left she must be discreditied.
Second, this is part of the ramp-up strategy to use the congressional hearings to "get" Bush just-in-time for the elections that was made clear by the Dims exposed memos in the Intell Commmittee. With his testimony coming up, this drags all sorts of things out for questions that would have seemed like rank and self-serving speculation without his puff piece to base them on.
Third, this guys legacy of service is listed as (1)WTC of 93 being addressed only in the criminal sense, thus bringing them back, (2) Million dollar rocket at a ten dollar tent as a response to embassy bombing, (3) This is the guy that bailed out Billy with the dreaded Asprin Factory that was going to kill us all, and (4) he was a go-to guy of ten years of service and it was capped by the worst attack on our soil in history--he has to want to make it look like he wasn't asleep at the switch.
Lastly, he is being demure about his association with Kerry. The Dims in power with go with his dimwitted ideas the Bush administration brushed aside of electronic war by Islam. His "best friend" is Kerry's guy...and he isn't? This guy is BUYING a job with spun secrets.
The comment made reference to Ijaz's skin color, not his religion, and implied that he was slavishly pushing the Fox News Channel right-wing agenda. The tone of the comment was very similar to the one that was made in 2002 by Harry Belafonte in which he called Colin Powell a "house slave". I wouldn't doubt that a DUpe would come here and leave racist comments in an attempt to discredit the site and the ideas that are expressed here.
I wouldn't touch that bet with a... well, never mind. Seriously, you don't know about the Peter Principle? The term originated around 1970 and is fairly accurate, imo. The principle theorizes that certain individuals are promoted higher and higher up the ladder until they settle into a high level job in which they're totally incompetent. Ever wonder how the heck your moronic boss got his job? Well, that's the Peter Principle.
Hey Mansoor, show me that you can be trusted!!
1998 late - APRIL 2003 : (IRAQ : AFTER INTERNATIONAL INSPECTIONS END, MUCH OF THE HIDDEN UNDERGROUND NUCLEAR WEAPONS RESEARCH FACILITY AT AL TUWAITHA IS BUILT; IT WILL NOT BE REVEALED TO THE WORLD PUBLIC UNTIL US FORCES INVADE THE CITY IN APRIL 2003) In the deserted edifices of Iraqi science, there is the omnipresent Saddam. Paintings show Saddam with scientists; Saddam with farmers; Saddam with soldiers. On the walls, Saddam's face. In the scrub surrounding the guard bunkers, murals of Saddam. There are books of Saddam sayings. Scientists' offices glitter with medals, from Saddam. The offices underground, under unlit signs warning of "Gas/Gaz," are stuffed with videos and pictures, all showing how this complex was built, largely over the last four years after formal international inspections ended. The Marines haven't even mapped all the subterranean tunnels veining the site. In an above-ground library built like a fortress with a beautiful alabaster marble now washed in dust and mud, the clocks stopped at ten minutes until one. The stacks, cool because of the marble, hold the scientific manuals, textbooks and published papers for the Iraqi intelligentsia. In the commanding general's study, goldfish still swim in a long tank, glittering like the medals on his desk from Saddam. "Peaceful Uses of Atomic Energy for Scientific and Economic Development," a bulky green tome published in 1975, leans against the general's wall, under a picture of Saddam, whose Baathist Party came to power four years later in a bloody coup. On a mantle, folded under documents, a Christmas card never sent. On the front is a dove, its wings the ellipses of the atom, tinged in orange, yellow and green. Under it, a tiger, facing backward, its body a swirl of Arabic letters. Inside the card: "Rights of Third World Peoples To Alternate Energy Sources For the Future Development of Their Environment and Culture." The next page: "Let Us Hope This New Year Will Be a Year of Peace and Justice and With All Good Wishes for Christmas and the New Year." Signed, Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission. Baghdad. - "Marines hold nuclear site," by Carl Prine, Pittsburgh Tribune Review, Wednesday, April 9, 2003
DECEMBER 2002 - FEBRUARY 6, 2003 : (IAEA INSPECTORS CHECK UP ON TUWAITHA NUCLEAR RESEARCH CENTER & STORED URANIUM THERE; APPARENTLY GO UNDERGROUND ON SOME SEARCHES) The U.N. nuclear agency's inspectors have visited Tuwaitha about two dozen times, including a dozen checks carried out since December, most recently on Feb. 6 . It [Tuwaitha] was among the first sites that IAEA inspectors sought out after the resumption of inspections on Nov. 27 after a nearly four-year break. On at least one occasion, inspectors with special mountaineering training went underground there to have a look around, according to IAEA documents.- "Experts: U.S. 'Discovery' of Nuke Materials in Iraq Was Breach of U.N.-Monitored Site," Thursday, April 10, 2003 Associated Press via Fox News
FEBRUARY 2003 : (IRAQ : AL-TUWAITHA : AIEA INSPECTORS SEARCH KNOWN SITES AT AL-TUWAITHA, BUT MISS AN UNDERGROUND CITY OF LABS, WAREHOUSES AND OFFICES WHICH WOULD LATER BE FOUND AFTER THE COALITION INVASION) International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors who combed the site [al-Tuwaitha] - "Marines hold nuclear site," by Carl Prine, Pittsburgh Tribune Review, Wednesday, April 9, 2003
FEBRUARY 2003 : (IRAQ : UN ARMS INSPECTORS VISITED FACILITY IN THE VICINITY OF KARBALA CHEMICAL PLANT - KARBALA PLANT IS WHERE US ARMY WOULD LATER FIND BURIED SHIPPING CONTAINERS OF LAB EQUIPMENT) U.N. arms inspectors visited a facility in the immediate vicinity of the [Karbala] chemical plant Feb. 23, but did not find the buried equipment. [that 101st Airborne later found buried at the plant] Officials at the U.S. Central Command suggested that no conclusions should be drawn.- "Experts: U.S. 'Discovery' of Nuke Materials in Iraq Was Breach of U.N.-Monitored Site," Thursday, April 10, 2003 Associated Press via Fox News
FEBRUARY 6, 2003 : (LAST VISIT BY UN IAEA INSPECTORS TO TUWAITHA NUCLEAR RESEARCH CENTER TO CHECK UP ON URANIUM STORED THERE) The U.N. nuclear agency's inspectors have visited Tuwaitha about two dozen times, including a dozen checks carried out since December, most recently on Feb. 6 . It was among the first sites that IAEA inspectors sought out after the resumption of inspections on Nov. 27  after a nearly four-year break.- "Experts: U.S. 'Discovery' of Nuke Materials in Iraq Was Breach of U.N.-Monitored Site," Thursday, April 10, 2003 Associated Press via Fox News
MARCH 2003 : (IRAQ : SCIENTISTS & SPECIAL REPUBLICAN GUARD ABANDON AL TUWAITHA NUCLEAR RESEARCH FACILITY, ACCORDING TO LATER REPORTS OF IRAQI VILLAGERS) - "Marines hold nuclear site," by Carl Prine, Pittsburgh Tribune Review, Wednesday, April 9, 2003
APRIL 5?, 2003 : (IRAQ : AL TUWAITHA NUCLEAR WEAPONS RESEARCH FACILITY IS DESERTED BY IRAQIS, US FORCES ARRIVE) - "Marines hold nuclear site," by Carl Prine, Pittsburgh Tribune Review, Wednesday, April 9, 2003
APRIL 2003 : (IRAQ : AL-TUWAITHA : US MARINES SECURE YELLOWCAKE STORAGE BUILDING) The Marine Corps' Combat Engineer Battalion secured the above- and below-ground laboratories, bunkers, artillery and small arms caches deserted by the Iraqi Special Republican Guard as coalition forces closed in on Baghdad. At a warehouse about 400 yards outside Tuwaitha, the Marines secured what they called the "Yellow Cake" facility. Named "Location C" by international inspectors, the building had been placed under seal by investigators in 1991 to keep fissionable material from being reused in Iraq's atomic weapons program. The Marines, who insist they never broke the IAEA's seals, discovered high levels of radioactivity behind an open steel door, where blue barrels of uranium water filled the storeroom. Marines believed "Yellow Cake" had been burglarized days earlier by villagers searching for air conditioners, furniture and window glass. - "Fate of Al-Tuwaitha nuclear material unclear," By Carl Prine, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Tuesday, May 6, 2003
APRIL 6?, 2003 : (IRAQ : AL-TUWAITHA : USMC COMBAT ENGINEERS DISCOVER PREVIOUSLY UNKNOWN UNDERGROUND NUCLEAR FACILITY AT AL-TUWAITHA) - "Marines hold nuclear site," by Carl Prine, Pittsburgh Tribune Review, Wednesday, April 9, 2003
APRIL 8, 2003 : (IRAQ : INVESTIGATORS DISCOVER THAT THE IRAQI AEC TOWN AL TUWAITHA HIDES A SUBTERRANEAN NUCLEAR RESEARCH 'CITY') Investigators Tuesday (April 8, 2003) discovered [or shall we say confirmed, since Marines discovered it a few days ago] that Al-Tuwaitha hides another city. South of Baghdad In a valley sculpted by man, between the palms and roses, lies a vast marble and steel city known as Al-Tuwaitha. In the suburbs about 18 miles south of the capital's suburbs, this city comprises nearly 100 buildings workshops, laboratories, cooling towers, nuclear reactors, libraries and barracks that belong to the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission. This underground nexus of labs, warehouses, and bomb-proof offices was hidden from the public and, perhaps, International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors who combed the site just two months ago, until the U.S. Marine Corps Combat Engineers discovered it three days ago.[on April 6] Today, the Marines hold it against enemy counter-attacks. - "Marines hold nuclear site," by Carl Prine, Pittsburgh Tribune Review, Wednesday, April 9, 2003
APRIL 10, 2003 Thursday : (FORMER IAEA INSPECTOR KAY SAYS TUWAITHA UNDERGROUND NUcLEAR WEAPONS SITE WAS MISSED BY INSECTION TEAMS AFTER [OPERATION DESERT STORM] GULF WAR DESPITE RUMORS IT EXISTED; US MILITARY JUST FOUND UNDERGROUND SITES THERE) David Kay, a former IAEA chief nuclear inspector, said Thursday that the teams he oversaw after the 1991 Gulf War never found an underground site at Tuwaitha despite persistent rumors. "But underground facilities by definition are very hard to detect," he said. "When you inspect a place so often, you get overconfident about what you know. It would have been very easy for the inspectors to explain away any excessive radiation at Tuwaitha. The Iraqis could have hidden something clandestine in plain sight."- "Experts: U.S. 'Discovery' of Nuke Materials in Iraq Was Breach of U.N.-Monitored Site," Thursday, April 10, 2003 Associated Press via Fox News
APRIL 2003 mid-month : (IRAQ: AL-TUWAITHA : US ARMY THIRD INFANTRY DIVISION TAKES OVER SECURITY) - "Fate of Al-Tuwaitha nuclear material unclear," By Carl Prine, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Tuesday, May 6, 2003 *
MAY 3, 2003 : (IRAQ : AL-TUWAITHA : PHYSICISTS ARRIVE AT IRAQI NUCLEAR RESEARCH FACILITY AFTER US ARMY'S THIRD INFANTRY DIVISION TAKES OVER SECURITY) The Pentagon's scout team moved on to other suspected atomic sites, and a follow-up group of physicists didn't arrive at Tuwaitha until May 3, nearly a month after the Marines first arrived and two weeks after the Third Infantry Division took over. - "Fate of Al-Tuwaitha nuclear material unclear," By Carl Prine, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Tuesday, May 6, 2003 *
JUNE 2003 : (DR. DAVID KELLY IS INTERVIEWED BY THE UK'S SUNDAY TIMES : KELLY REVEALS THAT IRAQ CONCOCTED A DIRTY BOMB DURING THE IRAN-IRAQ WAR) In a June interview with the newspaper, Kelly revealed that Saddam originally built the dread weapon [a dirty bomb] capable of causing cancer and birth defects for use against Iranian troops during the Iran-Iraq war as a tactical weapon and an instrument of terror. Moreover Kelly insisted that said Iraq still "possessed the know-how and the materials to build a radiological weapon, "adding that the threat posed by such weapons was potentially more serious than some other weapons of mass destruction because Iraq still retained the main ingredients to build dirty bombs such as nuclear material and high explosives. When the Times asked why this shocking information was not featured in the British government's case for going to war against Iraq, Kelly said he did not know, but added that there were people in government who were skeptical about the potency of such a weapon. In private, Kelly is said to have believed the evidence should have been included in the dossier because of the possibility that Iraq could reactivate the program even after it had been stripped of other non-conventional weapons. - "Dead U.K. Expert: Saddam Built a Dirty Bomb," by Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com, Monday, Aug. 4, 2003
[* My note: Kelly would end up dead during the BBC scandals]
JULY 2003 : (DR DAVID KELLY REPORTEDLY COMMITS SUICIDE) - "Dead U.K. Expert: Saddam Built a Dirty Bomb," by Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com, Monday, Aug. 4, 2003
AUGUST 2003 early : (THE UK'S SUNDAY TIMES REPORTS THAT DR. DAVID KELLY HAD PROVIDED EVIDENCE OF IRAQ'S POSSESSION OF WMD BACK IN JUNE) New evidence of Saddam Husseins possession of weapons of mass destruction was provided last June [2002?] by a top weapons expert, now dead, and it could have an enormous impact on the 2004 presidential election. The stunning revelation by the British scientist, who committed suicide last month over the issue of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction could have anti-war Democrats running for cover. According to Britain's Sunday Times, Dr. David Kelly had amassed convincing evidence that Saddam Hussein had built and tested a dirty nuclear bomb as long ago as 1987, and was perfectly capable of building the deadly weapons right up to the final months of his regime. - "Dead U.K. Expert: Saddam Built a Dirty Bomb," by Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com, Monday, Aug. 4, 2003
I appreciate your response. I am extremely pleased to see your report.
Let Mansoor go after Clarke with a vengence!