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Cultural conquest by stealth (Samuel Huntington)
The Australian ^ | March 23, 2004 | From The Times

Posted on 03/22/2004 1:02:52 PM PST by Eurotwit

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To: Tax Government
Imho, the best thing America can do for itself is to normalize the border situation with Mexico.

Concur, but we'll need the troops now in Iraq and Afghanistan to occupy Mexico after we do so.

41 posted on 03/22/2004 5:06:13 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: american spirit
A lot of us are already here seeing the invasion first-hand and the increasing crime statistics, ER's going broke and taxes going up to pay for all their services.

A generous bounty for clean fatalities and a small fine for lesser efforts should pretty well take care of that.

-archy-/-

42 posted on 03/22/2004 5:07:58 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: Tax Government
Nobody is going to be *forced* to learn two languages, any more than anyone is *forced* to earn money. (Don't do it, and pay the price. Your choice, but with consequences.)

No more tham the French were forced to learn the German language when the Nazi armies occupied France. But the Vichy/Petainists and Quislings learned Deutsch quickly enough, so as to be able to ask their masters which boot to lick first.

There is, however, another language the Mexican invaders understand.


43 posted on 03/22/2004 5:16:19 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: FITZ
India is gaining fast now --- but that's only because they speak English

If you hear that Indian outsourcing firms are now also requiring and training their employees to speak Spanish.....

44 posted on 03/22/2004 5:24:08 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: archy; Travis McGee
CWII and borderwar ping!

It's going to get pretty sporty out here...

45 posted on 03/22/2004 5:37:58 PM PST by in the Arena (1st Lt. James W. Herrick, Jr., - MIA - Laos - 27 October 69 "Fire Fly 33")
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To: Tax Government
what b.s. masquerading as patriotism is driving English-only?

Only the lessons of history and civilization, and the desire to preserve our free constitutional republic, and avoid an eventual Kosovo X 1,000 civil war.

Other than that, not much.

46 posted on 03/22/2004 5:38:21 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: archy
I think El Paso will be THE worst of the worst. It will be the open sore, the bleeding wound.
47 posted on 03/22/2004 5:40:55 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: archy
I should have figured your a Finn! I'm a Pole, and grandpa grew up in the U.P. and spoke Finnish, Polish and Norwegian I think. I think the U.P. is still pretty much Finland West, and not doing to bad for it.

One thing about the Finns, they make a mean rifle. My rebarelled-by-Sako 100 year old Mosin outshoots everybody elses surplus stuff (except on buddies Garand).

48 posted on 03/22/2004 5:43:07 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: in the Arena
I gotta get writing....before my next book is overtaken by events.
49 posted on 03/22/2004 5:43:38 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Eurotwit
BTTT
50 posted on 03/22/2004 5:44:01 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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To: Tax Government
>>America must embrace Spanish as a second, unofficial language. Only an unwarranted pride in English prevents typical Americans from doing this. Since most Amerocans have plenty of non-English-speaking ancestors, strong identification with England and its language going forward is pointless and counterproductive.

My Polish and German ancestors, who all learned English in a generation, would think that total nonsense.

One of the more ridiculous things I've seen posted on FreeRepublic lately.
51 posted on 03/22/2004 5:58:11 PM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: Travis McGee
Good luck, I'm looking forward to reading it...
52 posted on 03/22/2004 5:59:19 PM PST by in the Arena (1st Lt. James W. Herrick, Jr., - MIA - Laos - 27 October 69 "Fire Fly 33")
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To: FreedomPoster
Ask not whether your neighbors can learn your language, but whether you can learn theirs.
53 posted on 03/22/2004 6:17:22 PM PST by Tax Government
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To: Eurotwit
White Americans will be about as popular as White South Africans in 30 years if not sooner.
54 posted on 03/22/2004 6:18:59 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Tax Government
Yo puedo entender, leer y hablar su lengua. A quien le importa?

I can understand, read and speak your language. Who cares?

Don't you think you're underestimating Hispanics, telling us all that they're too stupid to learn the language of their adopted nation, as generations of Poles, Russians, Chinese, Koreans etc did before them?

55 posted on 03/22/2004 7:33:18 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Don't you think you're underestimating Hispanics

No. I think there is an opportunity for the U.S. to grow toward the south, and to form a larger economic and maybe political entity. That will only become possible if we willingly adopt a Spanish-English bilingual posture for ourselves, and *want* it to happen.

56 posted on 03/22/2004 7:38:57 PM PST by Tax Government
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To: Jack Black
Why do you consider a fiat currency fraudulent?

Because a private organization has been given a chance to print unbacked money and profit from it, while the Constitutional requirement to have a gold-backed currency is being wilfully ignored. BOTH political parties are fully complicit in the problem. There is NO domestic issue that is more important than this one (except maybe abortion), and NO foreign policy issue that is not affected deeply by and perhaps caused by our fraudulent currency. It is, imho, THE underlying political problem that we ignore, like ostriches with heads in the sand, at our peril. Here's a book for your consideration: "The Creature From Jeckyll Island", by G. Edward Griffin. Check the write-ups on Amazon.

57 posted on 03/22/2004 8:01:07 PM PST by Tax Government
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To: Jack Black
Bump and I completely agree.

The Constitution is WRITTEN in English, not Spanish. So is the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation and every other document of our founding. That's because we were, in large part, founded by English aristocrats. English has always been one of our strengths as a nation, one language. Losing that would be a shame.

58 posted on 03/22/2004 8:24:10 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Jack Black; hookman
One thing about the Finns, they make a mean rifle. My rebarelled-by-Sako 100 year old Mosin outshoots everybody elses surplus stuff (except on buddies Garand).

Just so. The Manser-designed modifications to the Finnish M28-30 rifle not onl;y provided the basic tool with which the Finnish Army and Civil Guard threw out a million and a half Soviet invaders over the four-month war of 1939-'40, but continued to dominate the international *ski patrol* competitions that became the Olympic Biathlon event, until 1978, when the rules were changed to use .22 rimfires so the girls could also compete.

Note that if your rifle is a M28-30, it most probably has a .3082 diameter bore, and will almost certainly perform better with heavier .308 target bullets than with Russian service or match ammo with .311/.312 diameter bullets. In 1927 the Swiss developed the boat-tail target bullet of around 172 grains weight, and both the US and Finns took advantage of that development in their rifles, the US with National Match ammunition for the M1903 Springfield, and the Finns with a new design rifle entirely, though still based on the proven and known Mosin-Nagant action.

That's not to say your Finn rifle won't perform adequately with Soviet or Russian ammo, if it has the usual D-stamp atop the receiver, only that it may do even better with ammunition tuned to it's characteristics.

By the time the later M39 was developped and issued, the Finns had captured so much Soviet ammo [and weapons] from the million Soviet casualties frozen in the Finnish forests, that the new rifles were tuned for that ammunition, with bore diameters around .310-.312, depending on manufacturer. But the older ones, with the right ammo, will generally outshoot them.

Want to see a real shootin' match? Watch a skilled shooter with a M28-30 and proper 7,62x53r ammo go up against an equally skilled rifleman with a Swiss K-31 carbine or M1911 straight-pull rifle. Any of the above can usually outshoot the rifleman behind it. I find the Manser sights on the Finnish rifle work a little better for my tired old eyes, but that's not the case for every shooter.

[P.S.: SWAT team snipers with M700 Remingtons just HATE being outshot at 300 yards by a guy with a 60-year0old bolt rifle with open sights. The targets were a dozen eggs each, standing up on end.]

59 posted on 03/22/2004 9:53:22 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: Travis McGee
Yo puedo entender, leer y hablar su lengua. A quien le importa?

Don't you think you're underestimating Hispanics, telling us all that they're too stupid to learn the language of their adopted nation, as generations of Poles, Russians, Chinese, Koreans etc did before them?

joH'a' 'oH wIj DevwI' jIH DIchDaq Hutlh pagh!

It's not Hispanics that are the problem, as generations of Panamanians, Cubans Puerto Ricans and others have shown. It's just those lazy Meskin's, a cultural reflection on their grudging assignment by their government, too much of a bother for real involvement by most of them. It's a national and personal trait, not a racial one, though there've been plenty of outstanding individual exceptions, Lorenzo de Zavala being one of the first who comes to mind.

60 posted on 03/22/2004 10:43:28 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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