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Iraq conspired with Bin Laden to produce WMDs...according to Richard Clarke
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Posted on 03/22/2004 10:37:25 PM PST by Jim_Curtis

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To: Texasforever
51 posted on 03/22/2004 11:51:41 PM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Republic Rocker
Redstone is behind all this destruction to's traditions and values.....

On the bright side, they do make the coolest laser carbines.

52 posted on 03/22/2004 11:53:05 PM PST by Imal (Pure capitalism is as unattainable as pure communism, but remains a far better ideal to pursue.)
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To: Jim_Curtis 10/26/00 Paul Craig Roberts "……. The attack on the Cole showed a "great deal of sophistication," declared Richard Clarke, a top U.S. security official with the grand title of "National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection and Counter-terrorism." On "60 Minutes" last Sunday, Clarke said that the rubber dinghy attack was so sophisticated that the United States is absolved of any suspicion of intelligence failure. ……..
53 posted on 03/23/2004 12:13:32 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: Indy Pendance
Why America Slept : The Failure to Prevent 9/11
by Gerald L. Posner (Author)

In the end, the central question that remained was what did American intelligence and law enforcement know and what did they ignore? What mistakes were made along the way on the ground by police, FBI and CIA, and in Washington and state capitals by policy makers? While hunting for those answers, there were unexpected discoveries about some American allies, and what they might have known, and not told anyone, before 9/11. The result is a far more infuriating book than originally expected. The failure to have prevented 9/11 was a systematic one. It is not just that investigators failed to get a lucky break early on, nor is it really even dependent on a series of blunders in the immediate run-up to the attack. The seeds for failure were sown repeatedly in almost twenty years of fumbled investigations and misplaced priorities. After a while, the revelations of ineptitude presented in this book no longer cause surprise, but only anger.
—from Why America Slept

About the Author
Gerald Posner, a former Wall Street lawyer, is an award-winning author of eight books on subjects ranging from Nazi war criminals, to assassinations, to the careers of politicians. A regular panelist on the History Channel’s HistoryCENTER, he has also written for many national publications, including The New York Times, The New Yorker, Time, Newsweek, The Wall Street Journal, and U.S. News & World Report. He lives in Miami and New York City with his wife, the author Trisha Posner.

Book Description
The story of the years leading up to 9/11 is the story of what might have been, and also serves as a call to the defense of America’s future. Since 9/11, one important question has persisted: What was really going on behind the scenes with intelligence services and government leaders during the time preceding the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks?

After an eighteen-month investigation that uncovered explosive new evidence through interviews and in classified documents, Gerald Posner reveals much previously undisclosed information:

• the identity of two countries that might have had foreknowledge that a terrorist attack was scheduled for September 11 on U.S. soil
• a startling account of the interrogation of a leading al Qaeda captive
• facts about a series of deaths that point to an ongoing conspiracy by some governments to hide the extent of their earlier relationships with al Qaeda
• how the U.S. government missed several chances to kill or capture bin Laden
• evidence that German intelligence may have protected an informant who was involved with many of the 9/11 plotters
• how the CIA tracked—and then lost—two of the hijackers when they entered the United States more than twenty months before the attacks
• the devastating consequences of the crippling rivalry between the CIA and FBI as the United States moved unwittingly toward 9/11

In a dramatic narrative, Why America Slept exposes the frequent mistakes made by law enforcement and government agencies, and demonstrates how the failures to prevent 9/11 were tragically not an exception but typical. Along the way, by delving into terror financing, the links between far-flung terror organizations, and how the United States responded over the years to other attacks, Posner also makes a damning case that 9/11 could have been prevented.

Why America Slept lays to rest two years of conjecture about what led up to the worst terror attacks in America’s history. This breakthrough book presents an infuriating review of how incompetence and misplaced priorities made America an easy target for terrorists.


Posner has conceded that he was "infuriated" by some of his discoveries and "disgusted" in particular by President Clinton's failure to neutralize the threat posed by the al-Qaeda leader, Osama bin Laden. Posner provides details of opportunities to capture bin Laden, opportunities that he says Clinton either ignored or rejected. Moreover, he says, Clinton declined offers by both Sudan and Qatar to arrest bin Laden and deliver him to the United States. Perhaps for purposes of comic relief, Posner also quotes Clinton's national security adviser, Sandy Berger, as saying that as early as 1996 the administration was "trying to get bin Laden with everything we had."

In this carnival of boneheadedness and floundering incompetence, Posner recounts one outrage after another. Among the worst, in terms of consequences, was the unwillingness of the FBI and CIA to cooperate and share information. Each had information of vital importance to the other, but the rules of their long-standing rivalry prohibited mature behavior. An FBI agent who asked the CIA for information about Zacarias Moussaoui received an official reprimand for doing so. Moussaoui was one of those aviation students who wanted to learn how to steer large airliners but had no interest in learning how to take off or land. The FBI agent was Coleen Rowley, one of the very few figures in this bleak history who behaved intelligently and honorably.


"Why America Slept" is excellent and vital reporting of the isolated, but mutually contributing failures of management, policy, regulation, politics, will, and luck that culminated in the awful tragedy of 9/11. It is concisely told in a clean style with energy to spare. Posner starts the book with a seemingly minor event (the murder of Emir Shalabi) that turns out to have major implications in the power shift among the participants in the extreme elements in the Islamist war against the West.

We also get interesting information about the events around the trial of the Blind Sheikh Omar Rahman, the assassination of Rabbi Meir Kahane, the '93 bombing of the World Trade Center, the embassy bombings, the attack on the Cole, the lessons the terrorists took from our cutting and running from Somalia, and so many more of the preliminary incidents and battles in the War on Terror. More sad than the events themselves is our collective delusion at the time that these were isolated incidents (such as the shooting on the Empire State Building Observation Deck). The author reports these events clearly and with just enough intelligent analysis and insight to show us how all these flow into the same river of violence without ever letting the narrative getting bogged down.

54 posted on 03/23/2004 12:25:02 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Jim_Curtis
In the aftermath of the attack on the USS Cole, the CBS program 60 Minutes [october 2000] aired an interview with Clinton's "terrorism czar" Richard Clarke, who was responsible for counter-terrorism at the National Security Council. He said the U.S. was trying to determine who staged that attack, and he suggested it may have been committed by Osama bin Laden. He also warned that terrorists have infiltrated the U.S. and that it was just a matter of time before American territory was the site of a nuclear, biological or chemical attack. He took correspondent Lesley Stahl on a visit to one of eight secret pharmaceutical stockpiles the U.S. maintains in case of a terrorist attack.
Journalist Kenneth R. Timmerman not only noted evidence of an Iranian link to the Khobar Towers bombing but suggested an Iranian link to the destruction of TWA Flight 800. He reported, "On three separate occasions before TWA flight 800 went down off the Long Island coast in July 1996, the FBI and the Federal Aviation Administration received explicit warnings that Iran was planning an attack against a U.S. airliner 'originating in Athens, Greece.' TWA 800 arrived in New York from Athens, before being refueled for its fight to Paris on July 17. Timmerman went on to note that U.S. Navy Commander William Donaldson had issued a report on the TWA crash pointing to a foreign terrorist attack. Donaldson spoke at our 1999 conference on this matter.

Instead, of course, the so-called "independent" or renegade terrorist, Osama bin Laden, was blamed by the Clinton Administration for the attacks. This was convenient for an administration that tried to avoid confronting state sponsors of terrorism, including Iran, Iraq and Libya.

55 posted on 03/23/2004 12:31:07 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: FL_engineer
quick note to dubya..kick all the clintonistas out of the admin.!
56 posted on 03/23/2004 12:35:04 AM PST by rrrod
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To: Jim_Curtis
Did Clarke mention that roundup, the common weed killer, would have provided the same test results as the "powdered VX-like substance"?

57 posted on 03/23/2004 12:35:14 AM PST by DB ()
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To: kcvl
A decade before 9/11, the worldwide surge in Islamic fundamentalism and its virulent hatred of the West was largely unrecognized in America. We did not notice when some of the most prominent radicals moved to this country and set up operations just across the river from the World Trade Center. Those early militants, ignored in their new chosen homeland, would become the role models and inspiration for some of the World Trade Center and Pentagon hijackers in 2001.


It is a neighborhood where Arabs are not timid about embracing political sentiments that often seem continents removed from nearby Manhattan. Many of the local businesses have long displayed prominent anti-Israeli, pro-intifada signs and banners. Even in the immediate wake of 9/11, a flyer posted outside al-Qaraween’s Islamic bookstore, next to a mosque, declared, “Allah is great-may justice come to the infidels.” At the nearby Fertile Crescent, a Middle Eastern market, pictures of Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon were stamped over with the crosshairs of a sniper’s rifle scope.

A small convenience store had a half dozen posters plastered on the wall behind the counter. They were grainy black-and-white blowups of young men, all holding weapons, wearing kaffiyehs wrapped around their heads and covering their faces like Bedouins in a sandstorm. All that was visible were the intense stares of angry young Arab militants that Americans have now come to know too well. Arabic writing was scrawled on the posters. They were tributes to suicide bombers. Each of the men on the wall had blown himself apart in a terror attack against Israel. When asked about the posters and why they were on display, only miles from where thousands of Americans and foreigners lay dead from a suicide mission, the clerk pretended he did not speak English. More questions were answered only with grunts and dismissive waves.

Further down the block, at the sixty-five-year-old Damascus Bread and Pastry, Arab men have been eating and arguing politics for decades. The showcases are packed with displays of sticky dates, nut-filled pastries, and an amazing assortment of pita bread, some of which is put to good use right outside by a falafel vendor. Inside the tiny room, dense with thick and heady smoke from hours of chain-smoking, Egyptians, Syrians, Jordanians, and Lebanese sit, packed elbow to elbow, discussing the terror attacks. Many have lived through years of crises, including four Arab-Israeli wars, the arrests of local Hamas bomb makers, the nearby murder ten years earlier of radical Jewish activist Rabbi Meir Kahane, the Gulf War, and the now legendary neighborhood tales of the first World Trade Center bombers who lived and worshiped along these very streets.

Five young men at the counter, cradling cell phones and packs of cigarettes, were not as reticent as the others to talk to a stranger. Yes, the World Trade Center attack was terrible. But America must have known how hated it was, and that such a strike was surely coming. One slammed the Formica counter so hard with the palm of his hand that his demitasse of mudlike coffee flipped over. How could America support the terror state of Israel, he asked, and then cry foul when the underpowered struck back?


But it was here that Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind extremist Egyptian cleric now serving a life sentence for seditious conspiracy for the “day of terror” plot intended to blow up New York City landmarks, tunnels, and bridges, preached his violent rhetoric.2 Rahman had immigrated to the United States in 1990 and inexplicably cleared Customs although he was on a domestic terrorist watch list.

Virtual solitary confinement in a federal prison hospital in Rochester, Minnesota, evidently did little to temper his hatred. In 1998, from his cell, he smuggled out a fatwa, a religious order, urging his followers to “cut all links with the United States. Destroy them thoroughly and erase them from the face of the earth. Ruin their economies, set their companies on fire, turn their conspiracies to powder and dust. Sink their ships, bring their planes down. Slay them in air, on land, on water. And with the command of Allah, kill them wherever you find them. Catch them and put them in prison. Lie in wait for them and kill these infidels. They will surely get great oppression from you. God will make you the means of wreaking a terrible revenge upon them, of degrading them. He will support you against them.” That fatwa has become part of the curriculum in more than thirty thousand Islamic religious schools in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Yemen.

At the other end of the block, just a few hundred yards from the mosque, is a simple red-brick house at the corner of Ocean Parkway and Foster. One cannot tell from the outside that until 1997 it was the headquarters of Kahane Chai, the militant Jewish group. That was the same year the State Department branded it a terrorist organization. Kahane Chai was devoted to the teachings of Rabbi Meir Kahane, gunned down in Manhattan by an Arab immigrant in 1990. The rabbi preached a strident racism that attracted adherents in local Jewish neighborhoods. Among them was a young doctor, Baruch Goldstein, the former Brooklyn resident who in 1994 slaughtered twenty-nine Muslims while they prayed in a West Bank mosque.

But on this day, with the sun setting in less than an hour, the interest is in the remnants of the Alkifah Refugee Center, Sheikh Rahman’s old preaching grounds. The center used to be nestled behind one of the ordinary-looking storefronts along Atlantic Avenue. Its stated purpose was to raise money so local Muslims could join the fight against Soviet forces in Afghanistan. Federal officials say the now shuttered center was a gathering place for Islamic terrorists, the first American base for Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda network. The center was where key personal relationships were forged between men of different nationalities who shared bin Laden’s extreme interpretation of Islam.

In the mid-1980s, the Alkifah Center was a neighborhood hub on Atlantic Avenue. It started out as a single desk in the al-Farooq mosque around 1986 and then moved into a grungy second-floor apartment in a building a few doors away at 566 Atlantic Avenue, above what is now a perfume factory. That tiny space had barely enough room for a desk, a few chairs, a phone, and a fax machine. Although many in the neighborhood recall that the Alkifah Center ran on a shoestring, documents submitted in U.S. court cases revealed that tens of thousands of dollars flowed through its bank accounts during its heyday of the late 1980s and early 1990s.

The center’s director was Emir Mustafa Shalabi, a young Egyptian immigrant with a shock of red hair. Shalabi was infused with the same religious fervor for the Afghan cause that roused many young Muslims who regarded it as a holy war to liberate an Islamic country from communist domination. Neighbors began calling Alkifah the “jihad office.”* Shalabi invited Sergeant Ali Mohamed, a former Egyptian army officer and U.S. Army Green Beret, to the center’s basement offices under the al-Farooq mosque. Armed with official U.S. Army videotapes and military documents marked “Top Secret,” Mohamed conducted a series of weekend “training” classes and a two-week-long intensive seminar. Almost all the volunteers were Arab immigrants. They bought $600 one-way fares as a sign they were willing to give their lives for Islam.

At those training classes were such future terrorists as El-Sayyid A. Nosair, the Egyptian immigrant later charged with killing Rabbi Kahane; Mohammed Salameh and Clement Rodney Hampton-El, convicted in the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993; and Mahmud Abouhalima, Sheikh Rahman’s part-time driver, found guilty of conspiracy in the 1998 East African embassy bombings that killed fifty-nine and wounded more than five thousand. Sergeant Mohamed himself would eventually plead guilty to conspiring to bomb the East African embassies.


The turning point for the Alkifah Refugee Center came in 1990 when Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman arrived in Brooklyn. An almost legendary cleric whose extreme rhetoric had incited the assassination of Egyptian president Anwar Sadat, Rahman had been to Pakistan and Afghanistan, and was a friend of the wealthy Saudi mujahedeen leader, Osama bin Laden. As word of Rahman’s interest in the center spread in the Muslim community, hard-core fundamentalists flocked to it.

Emir Shalabi, who was the American representative of the Afghan Services Bureau, a recruiting organization cofounded by bin Laden, had sponsored Rahman’s entry into the country.3* Shalabi took the blind sheikh into his house, gave him a part-time driver, helped him move to an apartment in Bay Ridge, and even paid for his food and telephone bill. He also made the sheikh an integral part of his Afghanistan campaign. And when the al-Farooq needed a new imam, the fifty-two-year-old Sheikh Rahman, with the support of Shalabi, was selected, and started delivering the fiery sermons that condemned anti-Islamic practices and tyrannical foreign governments. Before long he denounced other mosque members, including some Yemenis who sold pork, beer, and pornographic magazines in local grocery stores.
58 posted on 03/23/2004 12:36:01 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Jim_Curtis
But with his retirement, Clarke's career accomplishments should be noted.

In 1986, as a State Department bureaucrat with pull, he came up with a plan to battle terrorism and subvert Muammar Qaddafi by having SR-71s produce sonic booms over Libya. This was to be accompanied by rafts washing onto the sands of Tripoli, the aim of which was to create the illusion of a coming attack. When this nonsense was revealed, it created embarrassment for the Reagan administration and was buried.

In 1998, according to the New Republic, Clarke "played a key role in the Clinton administration's misguided retaliation for the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, which targeted bin Laden's terrorist camps in Afghanistan and a pharmaceutical factory in Sudan." The pharmaceutical factory was, apparently, just a pharmaceutical factory, and we now know how impressed bin Laden was by cruise missiles that miss.

Trying his hand in cyberspace, Clarke's most lasting contribution is probably the new corporate exemption in the Freedom of Information Act. Originally designed to immunize companies against the theoretical malicious use of FOIA by competitors, journalists and other so-called miscreants interested in ferreting out cyber-vulnerabilities, it was suggested well before the war on terror as a measure that would increase corporate cooperation with Uncle Sam. Clarke labored and lobbied diligently from the NSC for this amendment to existing law, law which he frequently referred to as an "impediment" to information sharing.

While the exemption would inexplicably not pass during the Clinton administration, Clarke and other like-minded souls kept pushing for it. Finally, the national nervous breakdown that resulted from the collapse of the World Trade Center reframed the exemption as a grand idea, and it was embraced by legislators, who even expanded it to give a get-out-of-FOIA-free card to all of corporate America, not just those involved with the cyber-infrastructure. It passed into law as part of the legislation forming the Department of Homeland Security.

However, as with many allegedly bright ideas originally pushed by Richard Clarke, it came with thorns no one had anticipated.

In a January 17 confirmation hearing for Clarke's boss, Tom Ridge, Senator Carl Levin protested that the exemption's language needed to be clarified. "We are denying the public unclassified information in the current law which should not be denied to the public," he said as reported in the Federation of American Scientists' Secrecy News.

"That means that you could get information that, for instance, a company is leaking material into a river that you could not turn over to the EPA," Levin continued. "If that company was the source of the information, you could not even turn it over to another agency."

"It certainly wasn't the intent, I'm sure, of those who advocated the Freedom of Information Act exemption to give wrongdoers protection or to protect illegal activity," replied Ridge while adding he would work to remedy the problem.

Thanks for everything, Mr. Clarke.

59 posted on 03/23/2004 12:40:08 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: rrrod
Muslims, at the Al Farouq mosque in Brooklyn, allegedly paid over $20 million to finance the 1993 WTC and September 11 Attacks. Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida organization benefited from the the Al Farooq mosques stateside connection, according to witnesses in federal terrorism trials. If this is true, our Brooklyn Muslim neighbors financed the mass killing of 3000 innocent Americans.


Mohammed Al Hasan Al-Moayad, left, and Mohammed Mohsen Yahya Zayed, both Yemeni natives, were arrested on Jan. 10, 2003 in Frankfurt, Germany, based on complaints issued in Brooklyn. (Handouts) March 4, 2003


Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman. The most famous of those affiliated with the mosque is Rahman, the blind Egyptian cleric who preached at the mosque until mosque trustees barred him from preaching in 1991 because of his incendiary speeches.

Jamal al-Fadl. A Sudanese national, al-Fadl helped found al-Qaida. He testified at the 2001 embassy bombings trial that he came to the Al-Farooq mosque in the late 1980s as a student, and there met Mustafa Shalabi, an Egyptian electrician.


Asked by prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald at the trial what other activities he participated in at Al-Farooq, al-Fadl replied, “Recruit Muslims to join the group, tell them about the group, tell them come help the group.” Al-Fadl testified that Alkifah operated under an international umbrella organization called “Mektab al Khidmat” or “the services.” As the fight against the Soviets was winding down, al-Fadl traveled to Afghanistan at Shalabi’s urging, to fight with the mujahedeen. There, he met and befriended a young Saudi man who had already gained prominence in the training camps — Osama bin Laden.

About 1989, al-Fadl said, bin Laden decided to begin his own group founded on similar principles as Khidmat — dedicated not to battle the Soviets, but to violently oppose non-Islamic governments.

Al-Fadl testified he was the third person to swear an oath of allegiance to the group and eventually became one of bin Laden’s closest aides. In 1993, he said he attempted to buy uranium for a nuclear weapon that bin Laden was attempting to build.

Three years later, he said, he broke with the group and began cooperating with the U.S. government after stealing about $100,000 from bin Laden’s group. Al-Fadl pleaded guilty to federal terrorism charges; prosecutors sealed his sentence, citing national security concerns.

Ali Mohamed. Mohamed was a young Egyptian army officer who found his way to the Al-Farooq mosque in the late 1980s. According to documents and a witness at the 1995 trial of Sheik Rahman, Shalabi invited Mohamed — who joined the U.S. Army in 1986 and was discharged in 1989 — to provide military training in Alkifah’s office, then located in the mosque’s basement.

Three young Muslim men who attended Mohamed’s classes on map reading, wartime survival, strategy and weaponry later earned their own distinction in terrorist annals.

El Sayyid Nosair Mahmud Abouhalima and Mohammad Salameh, were convicted in the 1993 trade center bombing. Nosair, Salameh and Abouhalima are all serving life prison terms.

In late 2000, Mohamed resurfaced in federal court in Manhattan, admitting he served as a key intelligence officer in al-Qaida and the Egyptian Islamic Jihad for 20 years. Mohamed pleaded guilty to a host of crimes, including conspiring to murder U.S. citizens and destroy U.S. buildings and property around the world.

Mohamed further admitted he photographed the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya, for bin Laden and that bin Laden personally selected the spot where a truck bomber should conduct his suicide attack. The outcome of Mohamed’s case or sentence is sealed.

Wadih el Hage. A nationalized citizen born in Lebanon, el Hage came to the United States to attend college in Louisiana. He too found his way to Brooklyn, the mosque and Alkifah in the early 1990s, where he befriended Abouhalima.

El Hage’s arrival in New York also marked a strange chapter in Alkifah’s history. Days after el Hage’s arrival, Shalabi was found slain in his ransacked Seagate apartment, stabbed 40 times and shot behind the ear.

The March 1, 1991, killing has never been solved, but at a 1998 pre-trial hearing for the embassy bombing case, prosecutor Fitzgerald told a federal magistrate that a dispute arose over whom would control Alkifah and where its funding would go.

Fitzgerald said el Hage had admitted to investigators that he came to New York to replace Shalabi. He also said el Hage had admitted that he attempted to obtain firearms for Abouhalima.


Ghazi Abu Maizer. Just before dawn on July 31, 1997, Abdel Rahman Mosabbah, a young Arab man, flagged down a police officer near the Atlantic Avenue train station in Brooklyn and told the cop that his roommate, Ghazi Abu Maizer, was intent on conducting a suicide bombing of the station during rush hour.

In a predawn raid, police found Maizer, a Palestinian, with a fully-rigged pipe bomb filled with nails, an unfinished bomb and a letter protesting U.S. support for Israel. The letter demanded the release of Ramzi Yousef, convicted as the mastermind of the 1993 trade center bombing, and promised to “burn the Jews” if demands were not met.

An FBI agent testified at Abu Maizer’s 1998 trial that although Maizer had only been in Brooklyn for a few months, he had worshiped at the Al-Farooq mosque. Abu Maizer was convicted and sentenced to life in prison.
60 posted on 03/23/2004 12:43:21 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Jim_Curtis
(Excerpted from "Embassy Attacks Thwarted, U.S. Says; Official Cites Gains
Against Bin Laden; Clinton Seeks $10 Billion to Fight Terrorism," Vernon Loeb,
Washington Post, A02, January 23, 1999.)

Well, at least we Freepers are the first to know which journalist will be the
next to review his tapes and decide he "misheard" what was on the tape!
61 posted on 03/23/2004 12:43:22 AM PST by VOA
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To: Jim_Curtis
bump for publicity
62 posted on 03/23/2004 12:52:50 AM PST by VOA
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OSAMA BIN LADEN and Saddam Hussein had an operational relationship from the early 1990s to 2003 that involved training in explosives and weapons of mass destruction, logistical support for terrorist attacks, al Qaeda training camps and safe haven in Iraq, and Iraqi financial support for al Qaeda--perhaps even for Mohamed Atta--according to a top secret U.S. government memorandum obtained by THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

The memo, dated October 27, 2003, was sent from Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith to Senators Pat Roberts and Jay Rockefeller, the chairman and vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. It was written in response to a request from the committee as part of its investigation into prewar intelligence claims made by the administration. Intelligence reporting included in the 16-page memo comes from a variety of domestic and foreign agencies, including the FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the National Security Agency. Much of the evidence is detailed, conclusive, and corroborated by multiple sources. Some of it is new information obtained in custodial interviews with high-level al Qaeda terrorists and Iraqi officials, and some of it is more than a decade old. The picture that emerges is one of a history of collaboration between two of America's most determined and dangerous enemies.

According to the memo--which lays out the intelligence in 50 numbered points--Iraq-al Qaeda contacts began in 1990 and continued through mid-March 2003, days before the Iraq War began. Most of the numbered passages contain straight, fact-based intelligence reporting, which some cases includes an evaluation of the credibility of the source. This reporting is often followed by commentary and analysis.

The relationship began shortly before the first Gulf War. According to reporting in the memo, bin Laden sent "emissaries to Jordan in 1990 to meet with Iraqi government officials." At some unspecified point in 1991, according to a CIA analysis, "Iraq sought Sudan's assistance to establish links to al Qaeda." The outreach went in both directions. According to 1993 CIA reporting cited in the memo, "bin Laden wanted to expand his organization's capabilities through ties with Iraq."

The primary go-between throughout these early stages was Sudanese strongman Hassan al-Turabi, a leader of the al Qaeda-affiliated National Islamic Front. Numerous sources have confirmed this. One defector reported that "al-Turabi was instrumental in arranging the Iraqi-al Qaeda relationship. The defector said Iraq sought al Qaeda influence through its connections with Afghanistan, to facilitate the transshipment of proscribed weapons and equipment to Iraq. In return, Iraq provided al Qaeda with training and instructors."

One such confirmation came in a postwar interview with one of Saddam Hussein's henchmen. As the memo details:

4. According to a May 2003 debriefing of a senior Iraqi intelligence officer, Iraqi intelligence established a highly secretive relationship with Egyptian Islamic Jihad, and later with al Qaeda. The first meeting in 1992 between the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) and al Qaeda was brokered by al-Turabi. Former IIS deputy director Faruq Hijazi and senior al Qaeda leader [Ayman al] Zawahiri were at the meeting--the first of several between 1992 and 1995 in Sudan. Additional meetings between Iraqi intelligence and al Qaeda were held in Pakistan. Members of al Qaeda would sometimes visit Baghdad where they would meet the Iraqi intelligence chief in a safe house. The report claimed that Saddam insisted the relationship with al Qaeda be kept secret. After 9-11, the source said Saddam made a personnel change in the IIS for fear the relationship would come under scrutiny from foreign probes.,+Saddam&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
63 posted on 03/23/2004 1:01:35 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Jim_Curtis

Clinton described a world of frightening terror scenarios involving nerve gas and germ attacks and computer hacking that, until now, have largely been the province of thriller novels.

Indeed, Clinton developed a personal interest in the possibility of a biological attack after reading a novel by Richard Preston called ``The Cobra Event,'' which deals with such an attack in New York.
[Clinton] said the threat was made clear last spring when a satellite malfunctioned, disabling pagers, automatic money machines, credit card systems and television networks around the world.

Clinton's national coordinator for the counter-terrorism effort, Richard Clarke, said there was a threat of ``information warfare'' in which a rogue nation, terrorist group or criminal cartel could perform a ``systematic national intrusion'' into computer systems, with effects comparable to the strategic bombing of infrastructure during the Second World War.

``What we're concerned about is in the future, nations will have that same capability to destroy each other's infrastructure, not by bombs, but by cyber attack,'' Clarke told reporters.

64 posted on 03/23/2004 1:14:26 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: FL_engineer; Jim_Curtis; Howlin; Miss Marple; M. Thatcher
Also see:
65 posted on 03/23/2004 1:20:45 AM PST by Wallaby
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To: Lawgvr1955
You are so right. I too have noticed the tendency of Big Media to (1) formulate a distorted opinion of some event and then (2) ignore all following evidence that contradicts their original lies. One great example is the lie that the Bush admin claimed that Iraq had ties to 9/11. When the fact came out that the Bush admin never made that claim, the libs just plowed ahead and kept repeating the lie. Another one is the canard that Iraq had no ties to Al-Qaeda then and now. Well the facts as presented by Laurie Mylroie and Steve Hayes confirm their past complicity and the presence of Al-Qaeda in the current Iraq terrorism has been confirmed. But the libs still keep on denying reality.
66 posted on 03/23/2004 1:40:00 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Jim_Curtis
67 posted on 03/23/2004 1:49:19 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: Jim_Curtis
68 posted on 03/23/2004 2:36:25 AM PST by Chapita (There are none so blind as those who refuse to see! Santana)
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To: Howlin
FYI & perhaps ping list.

69 posted on 03/23/2004 3:17:44 AM PST by Amelia
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To: Amelia
Wow, this stuff is GREAT! FR busted open the "outraged families" scam, now this. Thank heavens for the Internet. I wonder if the media is gonna be kicking itself for archiving stuff online now...
70 posted on 03/23/2004 3:35:39 AM PST by Paradox (I really have no clue, I just like the sound of my typing.)
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To: generalissimoduane
Freeper research strikes again..
71 posted on 03/23/2004 3:57:16 AM PST by Dog
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To: Jim_Curtis
72 posted on 03/23/2004 4:03:20 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Jim_Curtis; third try
great resource. BTTT
73 posted on 03/23/2004 4:17:22 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Jim_Curtis
74 posted on 03/23/2004 4:19:49 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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To: Angelus Errare
Thanks for the ping!
75 posted on 03/23/2004 4:26:54 AM PST by Peach
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To: Jim_Curtis
Per some commentaries on talk radio yesterday, Clarke was instrumental in convincing Clinton to bomb the aspirin factory in Sudan.

IIRC, nothing in the way of WMDs was found there.

Apparently, the one success Clarke had in getting Clinton to act turned out to be wrong.
76 posted on 03/23/2004 4:45:40 AM PST by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: Jim_Curtis; Mudboy Slim; Conspiracy Guy; Landru; FBD
Bumping a real interesting thread!
77 posted on 03/23/2004 4:49:31 AM PST by sultan88 ("I went down Virginia, seeking shelter from the storm...")
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To: GeronL
Hey Leslie! Will this be in the next 60 minutes edition?
78 posted on 03/23/2004 4:51:30 AM PST by cookcounty (John Flipflop Kerry ---the only man to have been on BOTH sides of 3 wars!)
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To: sultan88
Surely it's just a conincidence.
79 posted on 03/23/2004 4:54:16 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Happy Birthday International American)
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To: cookcounty
How to get the word out is our problem. We get all this great research and then what happens? FNC sometimes reports some of it. Sometimes.

Rush reports some of it. Sometimes.

Meanwhile the masses only know what they are told by the mainstream media. We need a more coordinated level of attack of we are going to get through to the mainstream media and thus inform voters.
80 posted on 03/23/2004 5:05:30 AM PST by Peach
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To: Jim_Curtis
Iraq conspired with Bin Laden to produce WMDs...according to Richard Clarke

Not Africa too?


81 posted on 03/23/2004 5:15:47 AM PST by maestro
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To: Jim_Curtis
Richard Clarke flip flop bump.
82 posted on 03/23/2004 5:15:57 AM PST by atomicpossum (Fun pics in my profile)
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To: Jim_Curtis
On every charge against Bush the left will drink Clarke's swill without batting an eye. I expect them to COMPLETELY IGNORE this.
83 posted on 03/23/2004 5:46:04 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Imal

"youse" guys are missing something of vital importance. Not only did he blow up an aspirin factory, but the US was sued by the owners of that factory. THEY WON IN COURT AND THE US HAD TO PAY. It was also proven that the soil sample suppossedly taken from the factory was not from there. How come no one remembers this? I have this information but it would take me weeks to dig it out because I moved across country to a much smaller home and have oddles and oddles of boxes still unpacked. Dig it up guys. It is out there someplace. Stretch
84 posted on 03/23/2004 5:47:44 AM PST by Stretch (Stretch from Apple Valley, CA who got out and moved to God's Country.)
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To: Betaille
"Did not know that Drudge was "conservative"

Drudge is NOT conservative, but he gets labeled that way because he always reports key stories that the mainstream news media does not want to be reported (usually to protect one of their fellow Democrats remember Lewinsky?)

This drives the mainstream media nuts and therefore they consider Drudge an enemy and to them an enemy = conservative

It is kind of the same thing with Bill O"Reilly

85 posted on 03/23/2004 5:48:02 AM PST by GWB00
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To: Peach
I'm not sure the masses are even paying attention to this, or anything other than their next payday.
86 posted on 03/23/2004 5:49:05 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
My fear is that although they don't pay close attention, if the television or radio is on, they can't help but hear that an ex-White House employee is saying very damaging things about the president.

They won't hear the follow-up facts that freepers have unearthed.
87 posted on 03/23/2004 5:50:58 AM PST by Peach
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To: Peach
This guy should help...

Mark Hyman is the Vice President for Corporate Relations for Sinclair, the nation’s largest operator of television stations. Sinclair’s television operations are diverse in programming with stations affiliated with the top six networks (ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, UPN and WB). Sinclair currently owns, operates, programs, or provides sales services to 63 television stations, reaching one in four U.S. television households. Sinclair’s corporate headquarters are based in Hunt Valley, Maryland.
88 posted on 03/23/2004 6:02:35 AM PST by smith288 (Who would terrorists want for president? 60% say Kerry 25% say Bush... Who would you vote for?)
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To: smith288
I'll go try to find an e-mail address for Mark.

Thanks for that information!
89 posted on 03/23/2004 6:05:02 AM PST by Peach
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To: smith288
We can send Mark an e-mail here. (I just sent him one). Thanks again.
90 posted on 03/23/2004 6:08:06 AM PST by Peach
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To: Jim_Curtis
Production of VX nerve agent requires a level of technical sophistication that has been attained by only a very few countries, including the United States, the Soviet Union, and Iraq. As former UNSCOM official David Kay noted, "Sudan is not a state that you'd normally expect to understand, by itself, the intricacies of the production of VX."[71] Hence, if the Sudan did seek to produce VX, it would be unlikely to achieve success unless it received significant assistance from Iraq.

Chemical Weapons in the Sudan: Allegations and Evidence

91 posted on 03/23/2004 6:09:52 AM PST by m1-lightning (God, Guns, and Country!)
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To: Jim_Curtis; Dog
Looks like Clark will have to go back to spinning tunes....

Oh, it's not that Dick Clark?

Looks like Clark from the clinton administration (not the Band Stand one) has been exposed here on FR anyway..... Hope it gets legs.

92 posted on 03/23/2004 6:25:55 AM PST by b4its2late (By the time you can make ends meet, they move the ends.)
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To: GeronL
The liberal media will just ignore it.
93 posted on 03/23/2004 6:36:49 AM PST by Piquaboy
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To: Jim_Curtis
Perfect. Scoop to you if this is original.

Headline: "Clarke Confirms Iraqi WMD"

94 posted on 03/23/2004 6:38:39 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (MEMRI, Lights the corners of their minds!)
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To: Republic Rocker
"I've sent so many letters to my LA TIMES that my wrist hurts....I can not believe we live in a so called Free country yet are controlled by the press and media......"

Watch a news show on network TV. Find a sponsor. Now conduct a write in campaign that you will never purchase another one of their products. In the cc of the letter, put every major group from the AARP to the Zionist youth movement. Rinse and repeat on every network station.

Next, same thing about print media. Look in Sundays paper and see who is advertising. Usually the biggies on Sunday are furniture, electronics or department stores. Same thing. Send that letter to Macy's telling them you will no longer purchase product from them.


The only way things change is when you "encourage" change.
I am not a good writer so it will be hard for me. But someone here can create a very "positive" letter stating that we will no longer purchase (insert product here).

Make sure you copy leadership in as many groups as possible.

95 posted on 03/23/2004 6:41:33 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Bury Kerry in 04! Down with Lenin Loving Lemmings....)
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To: Indy Pendance
96 posted on 03/23/2004 6:52:57 AM PST by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
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To: Jim_Curtis
I'm not sure I believe anything this tool has to say
97 posted on 03/23/2004 6:53:04 AM PST by Moleman
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To: sultan88
Thanks for the ping
98 posted on 03/23/2004 6:54:22 AM PST by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
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To: Jim_Curtis
Yet another Dem flip flop.
99 posted on 03/23/2004 6:56:29 AM PST by bluegrass (I am an American and I approve of this president.)
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To: Jim_Curtis
Link to abstract of article: Embassy Attacks Thwarted, U.S. Says
100 posted on 03/23/2004 7:06:48 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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