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Homosexual Public Restroom Sex Defended In California (Hey, They Were Born That Way!)
Traditional Values Coalition ^ | March 20, 2004 | TVC

Posted on 03/23/2004 6:44:45 PM PST by pinochet

Homosexual Public Restroom Sex Defended In California

Summary: A lawyer defending the "right" of homosexuals to engage in sex in public restroom stalls was on "The O'Reilly Factor" on March 16, 2004.

"The O'Reilly Factor" recently featured a heated discussion between Bill O'Reilly and criminal defense attorney Bruce Nickerson over the alleged "right" of homosexuals to engage in sodomy in public restroom stalls in California.

Police in Fresno, California, recently arrested 40 homosexuals on lewd and lascivious behavior for having public sex in a park. The sting operation was called "Protecting Our Children." Some of the men were found within yards of playgrounds.

Fresno County Superior Court Judge James Quashnick has sided with the defense attorneys who claim that the prosecution of homosexuals is discriminatory because no heterosexuals were arrested for public sex during this sting operation.

Bruce Nickerson claimed on O'Reilly that in California, a public restroom is considered a private area and it is not illegal to engage in sodomy in the stalls. In fact, Nickerson asserted that if a parent or child were to peek into the stalls, "…you've violated their privacy" to engage in sodomy.

According to Nickerson, it's perfectly all right for homosexuals to sodomize each other in public parks "…where you reasonably don't expect to offend anybody."

The effort by homosexuals to have public sex legalized is not new. In fact, in 2001, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court, headed by Margaret Marshall, issued an edict stating that public sex is legal as long as it's discreetly done.

Marshall's ruling came as a result of a lawsuit filed by the Gay and Lesbian Advocates & Defenders on behalf of a homosexual arrested at a rest area for lewd conduct.

In 2000, the British homosexual group OutRage demanded that the British Parliament legalize homosexual sex in public, including public toilets and cruising areas. The government was considering changing public sex laws to make it illegal to engage in public sex only if the sex acts would "alarm or distress or give offense" to others.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; familyvalues; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; oreilly; prisoners; publicsex
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{sarcasm} Why can't the right-wing bigots realize that homosexuals are born with the orientation to have sex in restrooms and public parks, and should not be blamed for their behavior? Don't they realize that homosexuals cannot control themselves sexually, because they were born that way?

Gays, you see, are like epileptics. Just like an epileptic has no control over his physical convulsions, the homosexual has no control over his craving to have sex with another man's rectum in public parks and resrooms.

Can't all of you homophobic, racist, sexist and facist right-wingers, give the poor, persecuted homos a break, when they decide to indulge in their favorite recreational sport in public parks?

After all, no one bothers you, when you play with a frisbee with your kids and your dog in the public park. Throwing the frisbee is your sport of choice. Let the homos too, engage in their favorite sport as well, that of rectum plunging. {end of sarcarsm}

1 posted on 03/23/2004 6:44:47 PM PST by pinochet
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To: pinochet
Heterosexuals have sex in airplane lavatories too and its illegal. Some people will get a kick out of joining the rarerified High Mile Club!
2 posted on 03/23/2004 6:46:25 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: pinochet
This kind of public indecency is an infringement on the rights of the public to use a restroom for its intended purpose without having to view or listen to goings on that should be taking place in a private room away from the public eye. There is absolutely no defense for this kind of public indecency, and the liberals have no right to inflict it upon us.
3 posted on 03/23/2004 6:48:04 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: pinochet
In fact, in 2001, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court, headed by Margaret Marshall, issued an edict stating that public sex is legal as long as it's discreetly done.

This woman has a lot to answer for. She is a prime culprit in making Massachusetts a moral sewer.

4 posted on 03/23/2004 6:49:49 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: All
The slippery slope gets even more slippery.
5 posted on 03/23/2004 6:49:59 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: pinochet

Get a f'ing room!

It's that too much to ask?

6 posted on 03/23/2004 6:52:07 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (""I don't need no doctor"")
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To: Dan from Michigan
Not it's. IS.
7 posted on 03/23/2004 6:52:26 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (""I don't need no doctor"")
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To: Unam Sanctam
You should see what people do in nightclub bathroom stalls together. Don't get me wrong, sex in public is indecent but some people find the danger of discovery to be highly arousing.
8 posted on 03/23/2004 6:53:41 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Its all about sex, my friends. Nothing you haven't seen on the cable TV channels and besides, as every one knows, its time to move on.
9 posted on 03/23/2004 6:54:48 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
One has a choice whether to turn on a TV. One doesn't have a choice when one needs to use a public toilet.
10 posted on 03/23/2004 6:56:16 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: pinochet
Given the chronic infections of STDs among sodomites...their engaging in (what it is they do) in public places, is an act of bio terrorism...
11 posted on 03/23/2004 6:57:09 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: pinochet; All
Beware of all rest stops down I-5. Especially you guys.
12 posted on 03/23/2004 6:57:19 PM PST by vikingchick
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To: Dan from Michigan
Fresno County Superior Court Judge James Quashnick has sided with the defense attorneys who claim that the prosecution of homosexuals is discriminatory because no heterosexuals were arrested for public sex during this sting operation.

Is this judge a moron, or what? Generally, even the sleeziest of hetrosexuals will find a cheap rent-by-the-hour room to do their thing. Is it too much to ask that homos do the same.

13 posted on 03/23/2004 7:00:23 PM PST by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trap-door if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Fresno County Superior Court Judge James Quashnick has sided with the defense attorneys who claim that the prosecution of homosexuals is discriminatory because no heterosexuals were arrested for public sex during this sting operation.

Is this judge a moron, or what? Generally, even the sleeziest of hetrosexuals will find a cheap rent-by-the-hour room to do their thing. Is it too much to ask that homos do the same.

14 posted on 03/23/2004 7:00:32 PM PST by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trap-door if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: pinochet
No privacy rights apply to this behavior, hetero- or homo-.
15 posted on 03/23/2004 7:03:45 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Vigilanteman
Is this judge a moron, or what?

He is no doubt a homosexual and does this sick stuff himself.
16 posted on 03/23/2004 7:05:14 PM PST by microgood
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To: pinochet
There are websites dedicated to where to have public sex, especially in restrooms. It's for the discriminating traveler or local public sex aficionado.
17 posted on 03/23/2004 7:05:33 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I am trying to stop an outbreak here and you are driving the monkey to the airport!)
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To: goldstategop
Sure, but if they get caught, they've no basis to complain that it's legal!
18 posted on 03/23/2004 7:05:55 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Don't be shocked but in the "red light" districts in Europe in the adult nightclubs, you can actually view people having sex on the stage in front of your eyes.
19 posted on 03/23/2004 7:07:35 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
So let me understand - gays are saying they should be able to marry because otherwise it is an equal protection violation. At the same time, they present the argument that marriage in their eyes is a union of either a man and woman, man and man, or woman and woman (we won't address gay polygamy at this juncture) and that there is no difference as long as the "couple" love each other.

Then in this article, they state not only the ridiculous theory that sex in an open, public space is not only ok but an obvious choice...for gays. Nothing about heterosexuals or their "equal rights." At the same time, this kind of gay activity is primarily between 2 strangers, ie., not an "item" or couple, which supports the fact that gay men, primarily involved in this situation, are very prone to go from partner to partner without ever finding "true love."

The bottomline (my apologies to Orwell): All sexual activities are equal but some sexual activities are more equal than others.
20 posted on 03/23/2004 7:08:29 PM PST by torchthemummy (Florida 2000: There Would Have Been No 5-4 Without A 7-2)
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To: expatpat
Exactly. For a lot of couples, hetero and otherwise, its all about the danger and the dare. I keep thinking of that funny scene in a Shot In The Dark where Clouseau and the maid get caught in their car stark naked and the crowd that sees them starts guffawing!
21 posted on 03/23/2004 7:09:42 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: torchthemummy
I don't condone sex in public. I think its tawdry and cheap and the consequences of getting caught isn't worth the thrill. If a couple wants to make love, there are appropriate places to do it.
22 posted on 03/23/2004 7:11:28 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Yeah, we used to call them "Flashers."
23 posted on 03/23/2004 7:13:58 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: pinochet
Sounds like a crappy deal to me butt please spare us the de-tails.
24 posted on 03/23/2004 7:16:27 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: goldstategop
Maybe but the door locks and there are no adjacent stalls to bore holes in.
25 posted on 03/23/2004 7:17:45 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: goldstategop
Maybe but the door locks and there are no adjacent stalls to bore holes in.
26 posted on 03/23/2004 7:17:45 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Fitzcarraldo
"The slippery slope gets even more slippery."

Oh yeah, lots of lubricant, that's for sure!

27 posted on 03/23/2004 7:19:09 PM PST by Bob Mc
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To: vikingchick
I once knew a detective in Ny who had been assigned the odious task of staking out a park's public toilets. He said that some toilet enthusuasts would bore holes in the partition, and then have Mr. Johnson pay a visit to the adjacent stall. The detective in question habitually smoked stogies, and when confronted by said Mr. Johnson, would tap him on the head with his lit cigar...
28 posted on 03/23/2004 7:22:16 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: goldstategop
I'm sorry. Your post was the last one before mine and I just tagged a post off of your post. I was being lazy since I wasn't addressing anyone in particular but infact the article itself - I should have scrolled up. I concur completely with your statement.

That being said, the thrill of getting away with something is a universal desire, no matter what sexual preference. But to try to codify it is insane. They want their cake (satisfy themselves while shocking the legitimate public users) while having their cake too (codify it so that they don't get arrested.) That is what is sickening and reflects the departure from the late 50's and early 60's civil rights movement where an arrest was expected and worn as a badge of honor while today's civil rights establishment wants to violate laws they feel are illegitimate while wanting to suffer no consequences.
29 posted on 03/23/2004 7:24:34 PM PST by torchthemummy (Florida 2000: There Would Have Been No 5-4 Without A 7-2)
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To: sheik yerbouty
OMG! What a burn!
30 posted on 03/23/2004 7:29:11 PM PST by vikingchick
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To: goldstategop
For your average hetro couple, sex in a public place is a sort of "once in a lifetime" thing. Like the "mile high club". It's done more for funny bones adventure than anything else.

I imagine that more than half of all normal couples have at least exchanged gropes and giggles in semi-public circumstances, but you know darn good and well that is not what we are talking about here.

Gay public "restroom sex" is in-your-face pernicious, promiscuous, rude, uncivilized and disgusting. Those who practice it are out there every night, often at the same place -- and there is really no way to stop it.

Flush them out of one park, they just go to another.
31 posted on 03/23/2004 7:30:59 PM PST by Ronin (When the fox gnaws, smile!!)
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To: Bob Mc
Oh yeah, lots of lubricant, that's for sure!

According to the book "And the Band Played On" by Randy Shilts, Crisco is the lubricant of choice.

Large cans of Crisco.

32 posted on 03/23/2004 7:33:54 PM PST by Ole Okie (John F'n Kerry, the VVAW's star wasn't at the 1971 KC meeting? Well, well.)
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To: goldstategop
Didn't Clinton establish that 'sex' is intercourse?
If so, then they're not really having sex, right?.

California is OUT OF CONTROL!
33 posted on 03/23/2004 7:44:37 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: pinochet
Can one have a civil union with a bathroom stahl glory hole?
34 posted on 03/23/2004 7:46:54 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: KC_Conspirator
bathroom stahl

Is that Leslie's black sheep brother?

35 posted on 03/23/2004 7:53:04 PM PST by murdoog (Rest in peace, Harpseal)
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To: pinochet
It's Maggie Marshall again - dragging Massachusetts further down the drainpipe. The MA Supreme Court is an embarassment. One of the justices was picked up for shoplifting in Filene's Basement! She claimed she 'forgot' she had the item under her clothes.
36 posted on 03/23/2004 7:55:34 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: vikingchick
Beware of all rest stops down I-5. Especially you guys.

This homofacist form of erotica is spreading like a cancer in public restrooms across the US. But what's worse is it's nearly impossible for a heterosexual male to go into a unattended public restroom without being propositioned by a sodomite. The really sad thing is homosexuals are using public restrooms as a place to lure and 'recruit' young adolescent males into their decadent deathstyle.

37 posted on 03/23/2004 8:00:59 PM PST by DaBroasta (GRID will eventually cure homosexuality)
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To: no one in particular
One of my former employers will be delighted to find out he's no longer a criminal...
38 posted on 03/23/2004 8:00:59 PM PST by null and void (Don't stand idly by and watch your country commit Hairy Kerry!)
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To: murdoog
Yes, an little double entendre with the spelling.
39 posted on 03/23/2004 8:20:40 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Dan from Michigan
apparently it is too much to ask. Next they'll want to be able to have sex in classrooms where the children can see.
40 posted on 03/23/2004 8:21:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: Ronin; archy
Flush them out of one park, they just go to another.

Quite so. A good reason to bring back horsewhippings and tarring and feathering, not to mention riding the rails out of town.

41 posted on 03/23/2004 8:33:37 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: torchthemummy
The main problem is that the so-called "gay community" does not speak with one voice ... but often out both sides of its collective a**!

The "We're just like Ozzie and Harriet, er, Harry" crowd get things rolling by saying we just want to be treated like normal humans except we don't want anyone to bring up what we do to each other at night.

Then along comes the self-avowed Queers ... who are at least honest about themselves. They believe that sex is an act of revolution against the stodgy status quo. Of course they go on to say that their revolutionary acts should be treated with the same consideration as every day activities ... like going to the restroom.

So the camel gets its nose under the tent, and then charges in ... and drops a heaping load in the tent!

43 posted on 03/23/2004 8:48:02 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: pinochet
Dogs can publically hump because it is their nature to hump, and homosexuals only want the same rights as dogs in free society. If dogs can hump in parks and wherever, why can't the boys in the bands? Never mind that the human beings aren't little doggies.
44 posted on 03/23/2004 8:57:51 PM PST by mathurine
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To: Unam Sanctam
goings on that should be taking place in a private room away from the public eye.

Shhh! Don't give them ideas! They might start asking for a trade-off: "Build us those private rooms in the park, and we'll leave the rest rooms for their intended function."
45 posted on 03/23/2004 9:02:55 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: torchthemummy
All sexual activities are equal but some sexual activities are more equal than others.

Alright; that does it. I'm going to tell it.

In the early 1980s, while I worked at San Bernardino County Hospital, a 16 YO male homosexual fell off a tree limb, while sneaking back into his Group-home bedroom from a visit his homo "boyfriend". He broke his back, and was on my unit in a FULL BODY CAST. Between checks, he sneaked out of bed, and out a rear entrance, (we were ground floor) and off the grounds. When, dumbfounded, we realized he was gone, we notified SB police & sheriff. He was found about two hours later, emerging from a van driven by his boyfriend.

Body cast and all, he had absconded, called, met, and had sex with this guy. When questioned, he asked what we expected, since it HAD been two whole weeks since he had had sex, and he JUST HAD to do something about it!

Illicit homo trysts had already gotten his back broken; now, he was risking frther injury or death for more sex, despite a plaster FULL BODY cast!!

BTW, despite his being 16, and a ward of the state, his "partner" was NEVER arrested, let alone prosecuted.

No, not all sex is "equal" when it comes to these people.
46 posted on 03/23/2004 9:21:51 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: pinochet
I'm lucky I'm a large person (6'6--275#)'because some years ago while I was in transit while serving in the U.S. Army, I had a stopover in San Fransisco before I shiped out from Oakland Army Terminal.
I I went into the men's room in some bar to take a leak. To my astonishment and surprise, the guy at the next uriunal reached over and grabbed my penis. It was propably the the last thing he ever grabbed. He is probably still there unless his fag buddies scraped him off the floor.
47 posted on 03/23/2004 9:23:01 PM PST by Octar
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To: pinochet
Homosexual Public Restroom Sex Defended In California

LOL, them Democrats...... (whew!)

48 posted on 03/23/2004 9:24:07 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: pinochet
Suspects in Fresno sex sting win discrimination ruling gives the details.. Apparently there's not even close to a privacy issue, all those arrested were charged for engaging in sexual activity outside of the restroom stalls.

I'm really curious to know if someone in Fresno could pick up the details of the reply by the prosecution to this -- were any heterosexuals observed engaging in sexual conduct? After all, how can it be discrimiatory if there were no heterosexuals engaging in illegal behavor?
49 posted on 03/23/2004 9:25:57 PM PST by kingu (Freepmail me if you want to be added or removed from the Survivor ping list.)
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To: pinochet
This is what's next on the agenda. After that, lowering the age of consent bit by bit.

Polygamy, though a realted issue is a different constituency.

50 posted on 03/23/2004 9:37:13 PM PST by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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