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Mark Steyn: Iraq has never had it so good
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 03/27/04 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 03/25/2004 6:21:36 AM PST by Pokey78

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1 posted on 03/25/2004 6:21:36 AM PST by Pokey78
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To: Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...

2 posted on 03/25/2004 6:22:57 AM PST by Pokey78 (Steyn: Leftists demonize Wolfowitz because his name begins with a big scary animal and ends Jewishly)
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To: Pokey78
I love this man! There are few that are his equal with the English tongue!
3 posted on 03/25/2004 6:25:13 AM PST by Toirdhealbheach Beucail (Am fear nach gheibh na h-airm 'n am na sith, cha bith iad aige 'nam a chogaidh)
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To: Pokey78
yet another brilliant steyn piece.
4 posted on 03/25/2004 6:25:33 AM PST by jays911
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To: Pokey78
nice
5 posted on 03/25/2004 6:26:17 AM PST by chuckcam
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To: Toirdhealbheach Beucail
What you said. Bump for lunchtime read...
6 posted on 03/25/2004 6:27:24 AM PST by eureka! (The shrillness of the left is a good sign.....)
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To: Pokey78
Steyn is spot on, as usual.
7 posted on 03/25/2004 6:28:18 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Pokey78
19 per cent said they were much or somewhat worse

Isn't that about the population of Sunni (Saddam's tribe) in Iraq?

8 posted on 03/25/2004 6:33:43 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Pokey78
If it’s a choice between aggressive neocon optimism or the UN’s slum-landlord approach to nation-building, I know which I’ll take.

Damn straight! Now get the Iraqis (and the Iranians) an NRA, so they can take down the next Saddam wannabe and his goons before they get started.

9 posted on 03/25/2004 6:40:43 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Fear not, for those who are with us are more than those who are with them." (2nd Kings 6:16-17)
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To: Pokey78
"Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?

A campaign slogan if I've ever heard one... guys this has to be one the best unwitting wittiest statements of the campaign season. Something has to made of it... somebody with Internet design savvy should have fun with this one.
10 posted on 03/25/2004 6:54:14 AM PST by Godfollow
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To: Pokey78
But, for whatever reason, all these movements are in the direction laid out by Bush in his Whitehall speech in November.

Funny, isn't it, how that's working out for that dumb cluck from Texas? Is it conceivable that Dubya might not be quite the dope that the Berkeley left thought?

Steyn is a genius, can I get an amen?

11 posted on 03/25/2004 7:03:45 AM PST by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: Pokey78
Ping
12 posted on 03/25/2004 7:04:47 AM PST by third try
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To: Pokey78
Many Iraqis are voting with their feet. The UN High Commission for Refugees, which was expecting about two million new refugees to flee from the war last year, instead found no takers. All the traffic’s the other way, and the UN is now closing down its camps around Iraq’s borders owing to lack of business.
Didn't know this. Statistics can be very dry, but this one tells a story.
13 posted on 03/25/2004 7:07:03 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Pokey78; Freee-dame
As for Iraq needing UN ‘legitimacy’, why not ask the people? The UN to them means decadent bureaucrats like Hans von Sponeck, the former UN co-ordinator for Iraq who the other day expressed his preference for the ‘order’ Saddam brought to the country, or the stinking sewer of the oil-for-food programme, a humanitarian intervention that turned into a money-laundering scheme for Saddam’s Western cronies. If it’s a choice between aggressive neocon optimism or the UN’s slum-landlord approach to nation-building, I know which I’ll take. Look at it this way. Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?

Steyn give us fabulous "talking points" every day.

PS: All the pundits and govt overseers who are "shocked" to learn that the Food for Oil Program was corrupt must have thought that Saddam built his military compound palaces by careful budgeting.

14 posted on 03/25/2004 7:07:45 AM PST by maica (World Peace starts with W)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
It's around 20% IIRC.

L

15 posted on 03/25/2004 7:09:31 AM PST by Lurker (Don't bite the hand that meads you.)
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To: Starve The Beast
Steyn is a genius, can I get an amen?

Amen, with a Hallelujah chorus thrown in.:)

16 posted on 03/25/2004 7:57:34 AM PST by xJones
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To: Pokey78
Interesting..................

This story makes me wonder........

What will happen in iraq when our government stops the "rebuilding"?

When will it be determined that iraq can make it without a couple hundred billion of our money being poured in?

I guess it's out of the question to expect them to pay US back.

Will they send a gift at least? Even the prissy-pants french sent us a really big statue for saving their bacon.

Just wondering....................
17 posted on 03/25/2004 8:07:58 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: Pokey78; onyx; PhilDragoo; devolve; yall
Looks like Mark Steyn hits another one outta the park ...

Many Iraqis are voting with their feet. The UN High Commission for Refugees, which was expecting about two million new refugees to flee from the war last year, instead found no takers. All the traffic’s the other way, and the UN is now closing down its camps around Iraq’s borders owing to lack of business. The other day, the UN’s Ashrafi Camp in Iran, after 30 years as the largest Iraqi refugee facility, threw in the towel when the last refugee went home. Despite being advised by UNHCR that it was unsafe to do so, a million Iraqis are said to have gone back. Not bad for a country which in Saddam’s day was the fifth-largest exporter of refugees.


18 posted on 03/25/2004 8:24:38 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: Godfollow
A campaign slogan if I've ever heard one... guys this has to be one the best unwitting wittiest statements of the campaign season. Something has to made of it... somebody with Internet design savvy should have fun with this one.

I don't know about a campaign slogan, but it sure makes a great tagline.
19 posted on 03/25/2004 10:48:47 AM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: MeekOneGOP
That graphic.....BWAHAHAHAHA!!

Prairie
20 posted on 03/25/2004 10:53:18 AM PST by prairiebreeze (America will CONTINUE to fight for and defend freedom. Even Spain's.)
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To: prairiebreeze
hahaha ! Yeah, Bart sez it well ! ;^)

21 posted on 03/25/2004 11:31:47 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: Starve The Beast
AMEN!!!!!
22 posted on 03/25/2004 12:18:50 PM PST by Rutabega (the only good thing about living in Europe was finding out that we captured Saddam two hours early!)
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To: Toirdhealbheach Beucail; Pokey78; shaggy eel; Byron_the_Aussie; Trapper John
<< I love this man! There are few that are his equal with the English tongue! >>

Few?

Any, perhaps?

Best ones -- B A

[Thanks for the Ping, Pokes]

bumpPING
23 posted on 03/25/2004 12:41:03 PM PST by Brian Allen ("He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine)
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To: Pokey78
Many Iraqis are voting with their feet. The UN High Commission for Refugees, which was expecting about two million new refugees to flee from the war last year, instead found no takers. All the traffic’s the other way, and the UN is now closing down its camps around Iraq’s borders owing to lack of business. The other day, the UN’s Ashrafi Camp in Iran, after 30 years as the largest Iraqi refugee facility, threw in the towel when the last refugee went home. Despite being advised by UNHCR that it was unsafe to do so, a million Iraqis are said to have gone back. Not bad for a country which in Saddam’s day was the fifth-largest exporter of refugees.

This is the biggest indicator about whether or not things are improving in Iraq over a year ago.

I am one American who wishes the Iraqis the very best as they embark on their 'experiment'!

24 posted on 03/25/2004 1:01:52 PM PST by TheDon (John Kerry, self proclaimed war criminal, Democratic Presidential nominee)
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To: Pokey78
Stellar Steyn. I especially love the metaphor in this sentence:

The theory some of us have advanced for two and a half years now is that the region’s stability — the stability of a petrified septic tank — is the problem, and that any upturning of that stability would be hard put to make things worse.

25 posted on 03/25/2004 2:06:39 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Pokey78
"a veritable quagjam of imminent catastrophe"

LOL
26 posted on 03/25/2004 2:28:07 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Pokey78
Steyn for White House Press Secretary!
27 posted on 03/25/2004 2:38:34 PM PST by kevkrom (The John Kerry Songbook: www.imakrom.com/kerrysongs)
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To: Pokey78
Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?

That just about says it all.

28 posted on 03/25/2004 3:14:26 PM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: Pokey78
Steyn, well Steyn, he's a master wordsmith...
29 posted on 03/25/2004 3:31:12 PM PST by gatorgriz ("The world is full of bastards - the number ever increasing the further one gets from Missoula, MT")
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To: Toirdhealbheach Beucail
Toirdhealbheach

I bret it's pronounced something like "Tor-OOSH" huh? Them celts shore like their letters...

30 posted on 03/25/2004 3:45:39 PM PST by stands2reason ( During the cola wars, France was occupied by Pepsi for six months.)
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To: Toirdhealbheach Beucail
I think I found it -- Turlough?
31 posted on 03/25/2004 3:48:21 PM PST by stands2reason ( During the cola wars, France was occupied by Pepsi for six months.)
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To: WhiteGuy
When will it be determined that iraq can make it without a couple hundred billion of our money being poured in?

Not that long, the north is already booming.

I guess it's out of the question to expect them to pay US back.

Who knows? Europe didn't but Iraq may have more class.

Even the prissy-pants french sent us a really big statue for saving their bacon.

Excuse me? Just when did this happen?

32 posted on 03/25/2004 3:57:33 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Te audire non possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure)
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To: Pokey78
Steyn knocks another one out of the park

Steyn proves again that he's the Michael Jordan of pundits

Steyn rocks!

Steyn bump

A year's worth of incision... just like last week's Steyn piece

Steyn does it again

Is Steyn's well bottomless?

It's getting tough to find new ways of praising Steyn's columns.

33 posted on 03/25/2004 4:19:54 PM PST by Yardstick
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Sorry I'm late...just discovered how to find FR...(withdrawal has subsided.)
34 posted on 03/25/2004 5:05:42 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Yardstick
If the Lefties had a writer half as talented as Steyn, we would be in trouble. Compare this to the inane ramblings of Dowd.
35 posted on 03/25/2004 5:53:53 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Egad - I'm still shaking from FR withdrawal. Horrible! But you know what? The antidote is a Mark Steyn column!

Look at it this way. Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?

If the Iraqis do pull off a national government, it'll be raucous, disrespectful, noisy, infuriating, inconsistent, and a royal pain in the butt to deal with. Just like ours, and every other representative government on the face of the earth.

36 posted on 03/25/2004 6:13:40 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Pokey78
BTTT
37 posted on 03/25/2004 6:47:48 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; Ragtime Cowgirl; onyx; potlatch; F14 Pilot; DoctorZIn; ...
Mark Steyn:

There will be movement in both Iran and Syria before the end of the year.

We would hope, the heads of Bashir and Khamenei from their shoulders.

Into a pair of jars by the door.

Available in reproduction from Neocon Canning.

Photo credit: Dead Men Sitting Club, Local 666, Middle Eastern Division

38 posted on 03/25/2004 7:03:30 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
"Dead Men Sitting Club, Local 666, Middle Eastern Division"

LoL

39 posted on 03/25/2004 7:08:04 PM PST by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( President Bush 3-20-04))
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To: Pokey78
Oh, thank you, thank you for the ping, and I'm soooooo grateful to get back on FR! I was getting the shakes pretty badly, LOL!
40 posted on 03/25/2004 7:42:06 PM PST by alwaysconservative (If it weren't for old, outdated ideas, Democrats would have no ideas at all.)
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To: Yardstick
You've got that right!
41 posted on 03/25/2004 7:42:54 PM PST by alwaysconservative (If it weren't for old, outdated ideas, Democrats would have no ideas at all.)
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To: Pokey78
Bravo! Wonderful column.
42 posted on 03/26/2004 7:32:26 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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Ping!
43 posted on 03/26/2004 7:32:52 AM PST by wingnutx (the freeper formerly known Britton J. Wingnutx [tanstaafl])
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To: Toirdhealbheach Beucail; dighton; aculeus; general_re; L,TOWM; Constitution Day; hellinahandcart; ..
"There are few that are his equal with the English tongue!"

"God darnit, Mr. Steyn, you use your tongue prettier than a $20 whore."
Taggart/Slim Pickins (Blazing Saddles)

44 posted on 03/26/2004 7:43:35 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: Yardstick
"It's getting tough to find new ways of praising Steyn's columns."

Reply #44?

45 posted on 03/26/2004 7:44:28 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Even the prissy-pants french sent us a really big statue for saving their bacon.

Excuse me? Just when did this happen?


You know, that Statue of Liberty.

Came from the french, you remember.
46 posted on 03/26/2004 8:10:52 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: Pokey78
Great Steyn! Thanks Pokey. One day without Free Republic and I was going crazy!
47 posted on 03/26/2004 8:31:55 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Starve The Beast
Amen!

And the Angels wanna wear my red shoes!
48 posted on 03/26/2004 8:34:45 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Pokey78
In another hundred years, Mark Steyn will probably be recognized as the pre-eminant political observer of his time.
49 posted on 03/26/2004 8:46:50 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: WhiteGuy
Another Amen for "Steyn is a genius" - and thank God for him.
50 posted on 03/26/2004 9:04:18 AM PST by WarrenC ("Richard Clarke, the new dashboard saint of the Church of Bush-Is-Always-Wrong...")
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