I looked for a date on this article on the Insight page but don't see it. Clearly it was written prior to 9/11 so I googled the title and found the article also posted
here where the date of June 18, 2001 is listed.
More refutation to Clarke's assertions that the threat of terrorism was being ignored.
I saw as I searched that one of the arguments the left is raising today is the assertion that the Bush administration ignored the Hart-Rudman report, and by implication, they ignored dealing with the concern at all. .
1 posted on
03/26/2004 2:36:03 PM PST by
cyncooper
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To: Peach
I thought you'd like to see this.
2 posted on
03/26/2004 2:36:48 PM PST by
cyncooper
("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
To: cyncooper; prairiebreeze; Howlin; PhiKapMom
Holy moly. What a GREAT find.
How about we send it to some news organizations?
VERRRRRRY interesting.
Howlin - how about a ping list?
PhiKapMom - I hope the RNC has this in their pocket???
3 posted on
03/26/2004 2:40:29 PM PST by
Peach
To: cyncooper
Bump for a great find.
4 posted on
03/26/2004 2:43:32 PM PST by
Stentor
To: cyncooper
Clarke is being exposed as a politcal hack and greedy bookseller.
<sarcasm>I wonder if 60 minutes will interview him again to expose his fraud?</sarcasm>
5 posted on
03/26/2004 2:44:36 PM PST by
watchin
To: cyncooper
Sure don't look like "asleep at the wheel" to me.
7 posted on
03/26/2004 2:46:46 PM PST by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Election '04...It's going to be a bumpy ride,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
To: redlipstick
Thought you might find this interesting reading.
8 posted on
03/26/2004 2:47:08 PM PST by
cyncooper
("The 'War on Terror ' is not a figure of speech")
To: cyncooper
Hope you sent this out to the alphabets.
9 posted on
03/26/2004 2:48:52 PM PST by
mtbopfuyn
To: WKB; onyx; bourbon; dixiechick2000; cyncooper
You really need to see this little jewel. Haha...if it's out there a FReeper will find it. Great research cyncooper!
10 posted on
03/26/2004 2:49:25 PM PST by
Magnolia
To: cyncooper
bttt
To: cyncooper
What a tremendous boost for the President's credibility. What a terrible blow to Clarke's, and to a lesser degree, Clinton's.
I wonder if Clarke will say he was lying then or now?
To: cyncooper
INTREP - CLARKE
To: cyncooper
It looks like the Bush admin inherited a haphazard approach to the whole terrorism on the homefront problem. The Clinton admin was set to take the lead on this because they were the first admin to be Cold War-less. And what did they do for eight years?
Something else I find interesting is the whole focus on WMD and bioterrorism which are certainly a threat. However, how did the terr'ists hit us? With commercial airplanes and boxcutters. There were enough biohazards in the structure of the WTC to affect NYers for years and years. It is sort of like David hitting Goliath with a stone. We tend to think BIG when it comes to how an enemy will hurt us. However, much havoc can be wreaked with every day stuff, and we cannot defend against such. Unless we can identify the enemy and eliminate him/her from our country. I know that we are making inroads in such. I hope that our eyes and ears are open to all possibilities.
To: cyncooper
btw, this is a really good find.
To: cyncooper; Clovis_Skeptic; Miss Marple; Mo1; Howlin; nopardons; chadsworth; ...
Meanwhile, say insiders, the administration is trying to clean up the mess left by its predecessor. Clarke, Clinton's former national infrastructure chief whom Bush kept on, now admits that his first attempt under the Clinton administration to deal with infrastructure defense was a set of policies "written by bureaucrats" and that they were wholly inadequate. He attacked a 1999 Clinton/Gore infrastructure-protection plan as one that "could not be translated into business terms that corporate boards and senior management could understand." This is one of the best finds yet to refute that lying bunch up there in DC! Cudos to you for posting this, and it needs to be widely seen!
19 posted on
03/26/2004 3:06:12 PM PST by
ladyinred
(Weakness Invites War. Peace through Strength.)
To: All
Please bring out your ping lists! This is a good one!
20 posted on
03/26/2004 3:07:17 PM PST by
ladyinred
(Weakness Invites War. Peace through Strength.)
To: cyncooper
Bravo. However, you cannot send this to the major media; facts only confuse them.
To: cyncooper
What you think? Deserves Front Page News, in my opinion. After 24 hours down, new threads are scrolling down the page really fast, so this may not be seen by many. This is an important a news item as the FOX story on Wednesday, again IMO. You're the poster, so its your call.
22 posted on
03/26/2004 3:10:08 PM PST by
CedarDave
(Election 2004: When Democrats attack, it's campaigning; when Republicans campaign, it's attacking.)
To: cyncooper
Bravo...and all of us here need to click on the link that shows the dated article; it allows you to e-mail it intact.
This needs bigtime proliferation.
23 posted on
03/26/2004 3:13:14 PM PST by
ErnBatavia
(Gay marriage is for suckers...)
To: cyncooper
To: cyncooper
Good work. Definitely a keeper.
26 posted on
03/26/2004 3:13:58 PM PST by
wingman1
(University of Vietnam '70)
To: cyncooper
Good find!
28 posted on
03/26/2004 3:16:33 PM PST by
Ditter
To: cyncooper
My enthusiasm has just been somewhat dampened. I didn't know much about "Insight" magazine, but find out that it is a conservative publication. That means that the usual suspects will claim it's just a publication for drumming up support for George W. Bush, then and now, and anything printed has to be be reviewed in that light, i.e. with skepticism. I know it won't change the facts of the story, but the left-wing media will dismiss it with a shrug and a sneer.
36 posted on
03/26/2004 3:37:36 PM PST by
CedarDave
(Election 2004: When Democrats attack, it's campaigning; when Republicans campaign, it's attacking.)
To: cyncooper
Clarke is a JUDAS to this country's safety.....typical RAT.
39 posted on
03/26/2004 4:25:26 PM PST by
Ann Archy
(Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
To: cyncooper
It was Newt Gingrich that approached Clinton about the need for a Commission to study and make recommendations regarding national security and terrorism. Clinton formed the Hart-Rudman Commission and gave Newt a seat.
The Commission's report was called the Road Map to the 21st Century and consisted of 3 reports. The first report contained what most members could agree on. The second report contained what many members could agree on. The third contained what some could agree on.
As for the accusations that Bush ignored Hart-Rudman, it is true. But, so did everyone else in Washington, with the exception of Sec of Defense Cohen, who spoke often about the Commission's report. Had any politician suggested re-organizing the govt, he would have been crucified as trying to pull a fast one to benefit his party. Thornberry of Texas was the first to introduce legislation, and before 9-11. Lieberman introduced legislation in the Senate subsequent to 9-11.
Shortly after Bush took office, Hart and Rudman approached the Whitehouse and Bush put Cheney in charge with the promise to get back. Hart and Rudman complained that after 9-11 they coundn't get an appointment with the Whitehouse.
The dems will use this against Bush but Bush really isn't to blame. He had to wait until the push for re-orginization got traction in Congress before he moved on it, or "got out in front of it".
It is interesting to note that the Bush Doctrine of Preemption is found in the Phase 2 Commission report. I think Newt did that.
Everyone should read at least the Executive Summaries of the reports.
To: cyncooper
Great pick up!
45 posted on
03/26/2004 7:24:36 PM PST by
Plutarch
To: cyncooper
Great find,cyncooper!
46 posted on
03/26/2004 7:26:45 PM PST by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; kellynla; backhoe
FYI
51 posted on
03/26/2004 7:35:16 PM PST by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
To: cyncooper
Awesome find. Thank you! Reading it is rather spooky in light of Sept. 11. So was Clarke removed from the
Critical Infrastructure Assurance Office? or is that the cyber security position that Mr. Cheney spoke about? The article says Clarke was the only one in that office.
Hmmm...so Homeland Security was in the beginning stages at the time of this articles printing? I would say the Bush administration was on top of the whole terrorist issue.
This is priceless: "Clarke, Clinton's former national infrastructure chief whom Bush kept on [mega mistake], now admits that his first attempt under the Clinton administration to deal with infrastructure defense was a set of policies 'written by bureaucrats' and that they were wholly inadequate..."
To: cyncooper
Good Job !
55 posted on
03/26/2004 7:43:28 PM PST by
america-rules
(It's US or THEM so what part don't you understand ?)
To: cyncooper
Wait. I thought the Bush team was uninterested in terror before 9/11.
56 posted on
03/26/2004 7:44:50 PM PST by
Tennessean4Bush
(Democrats use facts like a drunk uses a lamppost -- for support rather than illumination.)
To: cyncooper
Great find!
Ping this to drudge, drudge is probably the MOST influential reporter in the non-mainstream media.
A link ot a mention on his page will get a lot of views.
59 posted on
03/26/2004 8:26:00 PM PST by
FRgal4u
To: cyncooper
"water supplies, transportation, energy, banking and finance, telecommunications, public health - all of these rely on computer and fiber-optic lines, the switches and routers that come from them," notes National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice. These are vulnerable." The enemy drinks from a well, walks, uses candle light, campfires, cash, carrier pigeons and a hole in the ground. It has become increasing difficult for a world power and technological advanced military to deal with this low tech enemy...It's time to get savage on these scum!
60 posted on
03/26/2004 8:35:35 PM PST by
endthematrix
(To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
To: cyncooper
Why didn't Insight Magazine or J. Michael Waller bring this up again, like FOX News did in their 2002 article?? Where are they now?
61 posted on
03/26/2004 8:36:11 PM PST by
Ethyl
To: cyncooper
Thanks for finding this article. I just sent it to a rabidly Democrat friend of mine, with the following note:
I found this article from Insight Magazine, dated June 18, 2001, three months before the attacks on the World Trade Center. I'm sending this to you because I know that you are a Democrat, but I also know that you are fair minded, and will at least consider the context of the article, particularly with consideration of the fact that it was written well before we were aware of what was coming. I would also mention that during my time with the Austin Fire Department, we were briefed about the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. The intent in that attack was to take down both towers. The bomb was supposed to take out a corner support of one building, which would drop one tower into the other, and then both towers would collapse taking out numerous other buildings and several city blocks. The death toll, because the collapses would occur immediately when the towers were fully occupied would have been well over 50,000, as opposed to the 3,000 that were killed. A fact not known by the general public is that the only reason the initial plot did not succeed was because the men delivering the bomb parked the van in the wrong place. According to our briefing, the bomb would have worked as planned had the van been parked at the designated spot.
Additionally, as I have long suspected, Richard Clarke claims in his new book that there was possibly an Al Qaida connection to Oklahoma City, as Terry Nichols was in the Philippines when Ramzi Yousef was, and that he came back from there with the knowledge of how to build the bomb that destroyed the Murrah building. This is not theoretical to me, as Timothy McVeigh's trial revealed that the backup target was the Pickle Federal Building on East 8th Street in Austin. This building was approximately five blocks from my fire station, and in my first in response territory.
I believe that President Bush is taking the most prudent approach to Homeland Security, and that the current panel on government response to terrorism is little but election year grandstanding.
I know that we disagree on politics quite a bit, but I respect your opinion, and would like to get your reaction to this article.
Again, thanks for this great find.
To: cyncooper
70 posted on
03/26/2004 9:36:31 PM PST by
FairOpinion
(Zell Miller (D):"I’m on George Bush’s side because he’s on the side of the American people.")
To: cyncooper; OXENinFLA; lainie; cyborg
Amazing post.
71 posted on
03/26/2004 9:41:25 PM PST by
StriperSniper
(Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
To: Mo1; onyx; Tamsey; gatorbait; My2Cents; PhiKapMom; Howlin
Excellent Richard Clarke refutation ~PING!~
72 posted on
03/26/2004 9:43:33 PM PST by
BigSkyFreeper
(Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
To: cyncooper
You've got a steak dinner at the Longhorn comin' to Ya' the next time you're in Nashville TN for finding this little jewel...good huntin'!
74 posted on
03/26/2004 9:49:10 PM PST by
rewrite
To: cyncooper
I know you're a fabulous researcher,
but you hit the Mother Lode on this one.
76 posted on
03/26/2004 9:56:53 PM PST by
onyx
(Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold.)
To: cyncooper
You have e-mail Rush and Sean with this, haven't you?
80 posted on
03/26/2004 10:18:41 PM PST by
rewrite
To: cyncooper
Wow, great catch. I've bookmarked it, and will probably print it out and mark it.
To: cyncooper
Wow! You need to send this to all the major radio talk-show host. This is more proof that Richard Clark is full of Bravo Sierra. I believe Clark has committed perjury too. "60 Minutes" needs to be investigated too. After all it does not look like they did their homework on purpose, and you found it through a google search. This is more proof of how the liberal media is in bed with the Democratic party. Send it to Drudge too. This needs to get out!
To: cyncooper
I have e-miled Neal Boortz, and Sean Hannity. This needs to get out. Anyone notify the White House, and their congressman?
To: cyncooper
Beautiful find!
The best I can recall, Rummy was getting heat for being too aggressive at
re-organizing things in the military/Pentagon well before 9-11.
104 posted on
03/26/2004 11:45:23 PM PST by
VOA
To: cyncooper
BUMPING
To: cyncooper
The question is ........ Why hasn't Mr. J. Michael Waller stepped forward to tell this truth? Why has he remaied silent? Or who is keepig him silent?
107 posted on
03/27/2004 12:35:08 AM PST by
fella
To: kattracks
Another great research effort by cyncooper.
108 posted on
03/27/2004 1:06:48 AM PST by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
To: cyncooper
This article is amazing.
I was piloting an airline trip on 9/11, mid-Pacific from Osaka Japan to San Francisco when the jihad battle began. For months, we had received warnings from the FAA and our company that their was an increased chance of hijack. Unfortunately, the "standing order" was to cooperate with hijackers and yield to their demands. It was conceivable, but nobody could believe, hijackers would slaughter all onboard and use the aircraft itself as a flying bomb.
I recommend all check out the author's bio and bibliography linked below. This fellow has scores of outstanding articles.
http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=displaystaffbio&authorid=47131 3/30/04
Commentary: Spain Should Consider Martyr's Message
Putin Resorting to Cold War Threats
Records Show Richard Clarke Gave Only to Democrats
3/16/04
John Kerry's First Big Protest
Kerry Accused Servicemen of Atrocities
Kerry Exploits Vets for Hanoi
U.S. Taxpayers Could Back Iraqi Reds
< snip >
11/11/03
Terrorist Attacks Foiled Since 9/11
Tough Questions for America's Terror Warriors
Victories in the War Against Terrorism
< snip >
10/29/01
Investigative Report
Who Is With Us and Against Us
< snip >
6/18/01
Preparing for The Next Pearl Harbor Attack
To: Jim Robinson; Sabertooth; kattracks; Ragtime Cowgirl; F14 Pilot; rintense
Ping
Incredible 18Jun2001 (pre-9/11) article, you gotta read!
To: cyncooper
Flashback bump.
118 posted on
03/27/2004 3:24:35 AM PST by
Oldeconomybuyer
(The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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