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Republican Liberty Caucus endorses Free State Project
Free State Project ^

Posted on 03/26/2004 3:13:19 PM PST by Dada Orwell

The national board of the Republican Liberty Caucus has just voted unanimously to endorse the Free State Project.

http://www.freestateproject.org/about/endorsements/index.jsp#rlc

That's the movement working to get 20,000 liberty-lovers relocated into New Hampshire for the purpose of preserving one free place in this increasingly socialist-infested nation.

The national Libertarian Party, however, has voted not to endorse the FSP.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: freestateproject; fsp; nh; porcupines

1 posted on 03/26/2004 3:13:21 PM PST by Dada Orwell
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To: Dada Orwell
Good idea. Will balance out the leftists who are leaking over from Massachusetts.
2 posted on 03/26/2004 3:14:53 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: My2Cents
Will balance out the leftists who are leaking over from Massachusetts.

I'm afraid that's all they'll accomplish. The big flaw in an otherwise decent plan.

The other flaw is that even if they were successful in getting a libertarian style government, the fed would never ever tolerate it and would crush it one way or another.

3 posted on 03/26/2004 3:17:27 PM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord)
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To: freeeee
The big flaw in an otherwise decent plan.

Nahhhhhh the biggest flaw is that it's colder the Hillary in New Hampshire and their bongs won't stay lit.

4 posted on 03/26/2004 3:33:57 PM PST by Wheee The People (Oo ee oo ah ah, ting tang, walla-walla bing bang. Oo ee oo ah ah, ting tang, walla-walla bing bang!)
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To: Wheee The People; My2Cents; freeee; Dada Orwell
Go FSP!

5,600 people so far signed up so it's still coming along.

I tend to believe once some progress has been made in New Hampshire, people who prefer a more socialist/authoritarian agenda won't migrate there as much (and a few might even leave).

Like Utah or Nevada and some of the other states that have a general public perception, people who support those ideals will be drawn to it and there will be a positive reinforcement. That's what I'd hope for anyway.

Oh someone mentioned Hillary, that reminds me:
"It takes a public school to bankrupt a villiage" :)
5 posted on 03/26/2004 8:54:04 PM PST by StevenA
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To: StevenA
Frankly, I think this is a great idea with real potential. If my wife didn't mind cold climate, we might retire there.
6 posted on 03/26/2004 10:40:13 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: archy
ping
7 posted on 03/27/2004 10:53:35 AM PST by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: AAABEST; A.J.Armitage; archy; austingirl; BADROTOFINGER; Baseballguy; bc2; Beck_isright; ...
ping

FSP PorcuPing!

8 posted on 03/27/2004 11:35:38 AM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: archy
I'd vote for Wyoming, but then, I'm a warm weather weenie. How about Arizona?
9 posted on 03/27/2004 2:19:01 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Scratch AZ. No warm salt water ports.
10 posted on 03/27/2004 2:19:25 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: archy
daaayum!
11 posted on 03/27/2004 2:28:10 PM PST by King Prout (You may disagree with what I have to say... but I will defend to YOUR death MY right to say it.)
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To: StevenA
The other flaw is that even if they were successful in getting a libertarian style government, the fed would never ever tolerate it and would crush it one way or another.


As for the "it takes a school to bankrupt a village" quip... that comes from the Coalition of New Hampshire Taxpayers.

Many more where that came from; see

http://freestateproject.org/about/essay_archive/verbal-arsenal.jsp

Brought to you by the same state that gave us what I believe is the only bill before a state legislature which would (if passed) *prohibit* residents from paying taxes to the Internal Robbery Squadron.
12 posted on 03/27/2004 6:37:44 PM PST by Dada Orwell (www.freestateproject.org)
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To: Dada Orwell
Whoops...error in my previous message...the following line:

<< The other flaw is that even if they were successful in getting a libertarian style government, the fed would never ever tolerate it and would crush it one way or another. >>

...was a quote from an FR particpant, and I forgot to bracket it and to respond to it.

Anyway, my response is....the existence of Federal heavyhandedness is all the more reason why a Free State Project is needed.


13 posted on 03/27/2004 6:39:59 PM PST by Dada Orwell (www.freestateproject.org)
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To: Dada Orwell; spatzie
The other flaw is that even if they were successful in getting a libertarian style government, the fed would never ever tolerate it and would crush it one way or another.

They might consider it, but note that during the breakup of the Soviet Union, though the Soviets considered something when the Estonians broke away from the old government, it didn't come to that. The price, interms of international censure and possible involvement would have been to high for them to pay, and possibly for Washington as well.

And while it's not easy to win a fight against a ruthless bully, it can sometimes be accomplished if his pants are on fire at the time....

-archy-/-

14 posted on 03/27/2004 8:36:09 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: archy
"And while it's not easy to win a fight against a ruthless bully, it can sometimes be accomplished if his pants are on fire at the time..."

Sage words worth remembering, Archy.

...-BTTT-

15 posted on 03/28/2004 10:49:06 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: Travis McGee
Because of all the warm saltwater ports in Wyoming?
16 posted on 03/30/2004 8:28:53 AM PST by gnarledmaw
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To: gnarledmaw
I don't do cold and land-locked very well.
17 posted on 03/30/2004 10:04:32 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Dada Orwell
There's no question that because of the FSP, the first place I would consider for a summer/second home is New Hampshire. Of course, I'm a long way from buying one...

oh and I LOVE the cold, which helps.
18 posted on 03/30/2004 10:07:42 AM PST by PianoMan (And now back to practicing)
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To: Travis McGee
< I don't do cold and land-locked very well. >

It's not landlocked and it shares a border with Canada, which I think is a plus.

Here's a link that made a great sales pitch for me about N.H.

http://www.lpnh.org/101/index.html

I'm not sure what the name is but there are some zoned areas along the coast for international trade (I assume it's to allow import/export businesses without some of the tariffs). Someone help me out on the name. I can't remember what they were called.
19 posted on 04/03/2004 11:28:57 PM PST by StevenA
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To: My2Cents
< Frankly, I think this is a great idea with real potential. If my wife didn't mind cold climate, we might retire there. >

I think a bill passed that gradually reduces the property taxes there over a decade or so.

Land value would go up if taxes lower, so land might be a good investment.
20 posted on 04/03/2004 11:32:17 PM PST by StevenA
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Regarding some of the comments about living standard in New Hampshire ... check out what one of the least big-gov states in the U.S. rates as:

New Hampshire named most-livable state for 2004
http://www4.fosters.com/news2004/March2004/March_24/News/co_0324.04z.asp

Ironic that a smaller state government creates a better place to live? I think not! :)
21 posted on 04/03/2004 11:36:32 PM PST by StevenA
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To: StevenA
On the east coast, South Carolina is as far north as I can handle winter.
22 posted on 04/04/2004 12:28:41 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

You can't handle winter at all then. South Carolina doesn't have a winter. Does it snow in South Carolina at least once a year. Green Christmases? It may not even have much of a Fall or Spring.
Would you at least consider the hills of Western Virginia (not West Virginia but Western Virginia)?


23 posted on 04/21/2005 5:49:57 PM PDT by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Solitar

Even SC is on the cold side!


24 posted on 04/21/2005 6:30:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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