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Bill to Legalize Migrant Farmworkers Gets Support
Tucson Citizen ^ | March 25,2004 | Sergio Bustos

Posted on 03/28/2004 4:07:21 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:38:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON - House and Senate lawmakers rallied yesterday behind legislation that would legalize as many as 500,000 illegal immigrants employed as farmworkers, but the Bush administration has yet to endorse the measure.

Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, and Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., the bill's chief sponsors, are urgently working to get the measure onto the Senate floor before the end of the year. They are trying for support from at least 60 senators. So far, the bill has attracted 54 sponsors from both parties.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: agbill; aliens; amnesty; berman; cannon; craig; farmworkers; hastert; illegalimmigrants; kennedy; laraza; migrants; ufw
If this goes through (and it looks like it will) how many more hundreds of thousands of illegals will inundate our country?
1 posted on 03/28/2004 4:07:21 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Hundreds of thousands? You are a conservative...
2 posted on 03/28/2004 4:08:20 PM PST by ECM
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To: ECM
Hundreds of thousands? You are a conservative...

I'm sure he meant per month. Or maybe per week.

3 posted on 03/28/2004 4:09:40 PM PST by neutrino (Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
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To: neutrino
Touche.
4 posted on 03/28/2004 4:16:54 PM PST by ECM
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To: NewRomeTacitus
But in January, he [Bush] outlined a "set of principles"...

He could use a "set".

5 posted on 03/28/2004 4:18:58 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: NewRomeTacitus
How many microseconds would a proposal to legalize migrant attorneys last?
6 posted on 03/28/2004 4:24:17 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: NewRomeTacitus
It would be interesting to see Rove's numbers on this. Is it really true that he will gain more votes than he will lose? I think it is foolish from a political point of view; it is certainly a disaster from any other point of view.

Bad policy makes for bad politics, as they say.

7 posted on 03/28/2004 4:30:31 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Regarding Chris Cannon:

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595051170,00.html

He has a challenger who pledges to oppose illegal immigration and other Cannon favorites:
http://www.matt4utah.com/

From this: www.vdare.com/guzzardi/californication.htm
"most Utahns are deeply offended by the flagrant violation of the Articles of Faith of the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints... Throckmorton, a Church member himself, said: “The Articles of Faith are of great importance to Utahns. Article 12 states clearly that we must obey, honor and sustain the law.”" (One of Throckmorton's supporters got into trouble by falsely claiming that because of this the LDS had endorsed Throckmorton, but the way he states it is probably quite OK.)

Also see www.vdare.com/guzzardi/cannon.htm
8 posted on 03/28/2004 4:32:47 PM PST by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
The lawmakers have spent more than seven years crafting the legislation - the Agricultural Job Opportunity, Benefits and Security Act - and have assembled an unusual coalition of groups to back it. They include the American Farm Bureau, the United Farm Workers, the AFL-CIO, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the National Council of La Raza.

Well, it appears as though at least one racist organization, the National Council of La Raza, has come out in support of this bill. I wonder if any other racist organizations, such as the Ku Klux Klan or the White Aryan Brotherhood, will also support this bill.

9 posted on 03/28/2004 4:46:51 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: SpaceBar
The NAFTA has pretty much done that already, and it passed about ten years ago now.
10 posted on 03/28/2004 4:49:19 PM PST by Il Duce
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Way to go Hastert. Sheesh.
11 posted on 03/28/2004 4:49:36 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Let them eat amnesty.)
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; ...
More government fun.
12 posted on 03/28/2004 4:52:55 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Considering leaving to return as an illegal alien so I can get citizen's benefits.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
How is this different from the laws that exist to let temporary sugar can pickers into this country? It is not.

We need to use this as an opportunity to build our borders.
13 posted on 03/28/2004 4:55:14 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: CasearianDaoist
"It would be interesting to see Rove's numbers on this. Is it really true that he will gain more votes than he will lose?"

I'm firmly convinced Bush would pick up more Hispanic votes by cracking down instead of pandering. The majority of Hispanic-descended citizens are sick of it and watch their wages undercut like everyone else.
14 posted on 03/28/2004 5:01:24 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Considering leaving to return as an illegal alien so I can get citizen's benefits.)
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To: longtermmemmory
I can remember when most migrant farm workers were white. At least they were in California.
15 posted on 03/28/2004 5:04:46 PM PST by csmusaret
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To: NewRomeTacitus
I agree, at least for the ones inclined to vote Republican in the first place. I get the feeling that the GOP leadership is getting more and more out of touch with what people want - not some "conservative base" but just regular people. Most of the country has strong feelings about certain issues and not a lot of ideological motivations. This is one of those issues.

I am often puzzled by their tin ear for this.

If Bush would just come out and say that he was going to close the borders he would be a shoe-in. I thought they buried this issue but they cannot leave well enough alone. One step forward and two step back.

16 posted on 03/28/2004 5:10:26 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: NewRomeTacitus
I agree, at least for the ones inclined to vote Republican in the first place. I get the feeling that the GOP leadership is getting more and more out of touch with what people want - not some "conservative base" but just regular people. Most of the country has strong feelings about certain issues and not a lot of ideological motivations. This is one of those issues.

I am often puzzled by their tin ear for this.

If Bush would just come out and say that he was going to close the borders he would be a shoe-in. I thought they buried this issue but they cannot leave well enough alone. One step forward and two step back.

17 posted on 03/28/2004 5:10:28 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Tancredo will be in Nashville on April 3.:http://www.tnrip.org/comingevents.htm
18 posted on 03/28/2004 5:12:25 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Let them eat amnesty.)
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To: judgeandjury
"it appears as though at least one racist organization...has come out in support of this bill"

It's worse than you know. OSHA has embraced the Council of La Raza in their Partnerships program. They want to go beyond insuring safety by providing illegals "help up the ladder of success". OSHA has never done that for citizens.
19 posted on 03/28/2004 5:18:17 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Considering leaving to return as an illegal alien so I can enjoy what I helped pay for.)
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To: CasearianDaoist
Is it a tin ear, or do they just not care a whit what you or I think? They mean to impose this on Americans whether we like it or not. Its good for agribusiness donors, even if it is a bit hard on taxpayers.
20 posted on 03/28/2004 5:22:45 PM PST by Ahban
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To: NewRomeTacitus
All together now:
"DOING THE JOBS AMERICANS WON'T DO",...
21 posted on 03/28/2004 5:25:53 PM PST by Merdoug
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To: Ahban
Well then they are assuming that we are triangulated and maybe that is so. Sooner or later there is going to be a reckoning, I just feel it. The country is changing so quickly and changing into something very few of us want. I do not see how it can go on like this.
22 posted on 03/28/2004 5:43:49 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: CasearianDaoist
This is BAD legislation, plain and simple -- just another illegal alien amnesty. The fact that United Farm Workers and La Raza endorse this should be reason enough alone for sane citizens to call their congressional reps and urge them to vote "NO" on HR 3142 and S 1645.

For more information, check out these two websites: www.numbersusa.com
www.projectusa.org
23 posted on 03/28/2004 5:57:02 PM PST by MissouriForBush (Insert "Was" Because of Disastrous Illegal Immigration Non-Plan)
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To: MissouriForBush
It is so heartwarming to see Senators reach across the aisle in a spirit of bipartisanship. Uniting together to destroy the nation is such a lofty goal. There is not enough agricultural work in total done by the wetbacks to even pay their welfare and Medicaid costs. The theory is that if the United States is sufficiently destroyed, it will be a shoo-in for the world order to control.
24 posted on 03/28/2004 6:20:50 PM PST by meenie
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To: meenie
Yes, the bipartisanship of it all is just unbelievable. Hastert doesn't throw his weight behind this garbage legislation without tacit White House support.
25 posted on 03/28/2004 6:39:40 PM PST by MissouriForBush (Insert "Was" Because of Disastrous Illegal Immigration Non-Plan)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Should be clear that no one really cares about jobs anymore. Here is a chance to create 500,000 jobs, instead they flush it down the toilet. Dems will be in charge in January unless the House has the balls to shelve this. People on this site call me crazy when I say there is not much difference between the two parties, this is one issue where they are dead wrong.
26 posted on 03/28/2004 8:39:45 PM PST by sixmil
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To: NewRomeTacitus
You can send FAXes about this for free from here: http://www.numbersusa.com/faxcenter
27 posted on 03/28/2004 10:16:31 PM PST by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
National Council of La Raza

Isn't it just dandy that La Raza is in favor of it, many House and Senate members are in favor of it, BUT approximately 70% of America is AGAINST it? Our votes don't count anymore, thanks to Republican AND Democrat pandering to Mexico and a big nod from the White House.

28 posted on 03/28/2004 11:05:48 PM PST by janetgreen (3 YEARS AFTER 9/11 - WHY ARE THE BORDERS STILL OPEN?)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Mr. Tancredo’s coming to Nashville! Thanks for the Heads Up. I’ve got to see him while I can. He might be driving down a busy highway one day when the throes of inexplicable depression might overwhelm him (referring to the “suicide” of that agent who was investigating Mexican gang activities).
29 posted on 03/29/2004 12:15:37 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: MissouriForBush
Again, welcome back. So sorry things have degraded so badly while you were teaching Chinese people our capitalist customs and verbiage. I pray you won't have to go back and teach them Spanish.
30 posted on 03/29/2004 12:19:05 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: sixmil
You’re not crazy, you just feel that way watching this insanity running rampant at our expense. If it weren’t for the faster rate of destruction Democrat Party domination represents I’d do as janetgreen suggests and support the Constitution Party. Unfortunately the donkey and elephant sides of the same coin have rigged the rules to marginalize all third-party threats to their power on the national level. Local and state politics are far more open to third-party participation.
31 posted on 03/29/2004 12:22:08 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
I’m a big fan of numbersusa.com; got a pretty form letter from TN Sen. Alexander due to participating. That’s twenty-seven cents that didn’t go to bad programs. I’m hoping to collect more. Frist’s people send me emails about how wonderful he is, but scoring drugs for old folks on our dime doesn't seem to be very conservative to me.
32 posted on 03/29/2004 12:34:09 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: janetgreen
Think happy thoughts. I like to visualize Vincente’ tied spread-eagle over an ant colony while coated with honey. Just at the peak of his agony his precious snake-grasping eagle swoops down from the sky to feast on his liver. Try it; it’s very soothing.
33 posted on 03/29/2004 12:35:32 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: NewRomeTacitus
PING
34 posted on 03/29/2004 1:46:01 AM PST by AnimalLover
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To: meenie

Everywhere I post someone brings up the New World Order.
Great foil-protected minds think alike, distrust their
mail and utilize tracer software. Don't look directly
into checkout scanners. Beware tall, muscular Austrians.

35 posted on 03/29/2004 1:56:04 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: NewRomeTacitus
They include the American Farm Bureau, the United Farm Workers, the AFL-CIO, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the National Council of La Raza.

The article should have said Socialist, Communist, Bolsheviks, traitors, and racist. This is how I'd match these groups up.

36 posted on 03/29/2004 11:56:27 AM PST by Missouri
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To: NewRomeTacitus
I was afraid of this day. Interesting to see Teddy is pushing this as if he has ever met a migrant worker. Next he'll be turning over the border states to Mexico.
37 posted on 03/29/2004 12:01:25 PM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: All
http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_3153.shtml">IMMIGRATION FROM A BORDER PATROLMAN'S HOLSTER: PART I
38 posted on 03/29/2004 2:22:12 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Either we will defeat terrorism, or terrorism will defeat us.)
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To: Marine Inspector
Link doesn't work.
39 posted on 03/29/2004 2:26:28 PM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21
http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_3153.shtml
40 posted on 03/29/2004 3:12:45 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Either we will defeat terrorism, or terrorism will defeat us.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Ted Kennedy and La Raza supporting this should say it all.
41 posted on 03/29/2004 4:18:16 PM PST by k2blader (Some folks should worry less about how conservatives vote and more about how to advance conservatism)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Let us know how it goes.
42 posted on 03/30/2004 3:07:51 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Let them eat amnesty.)
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