KERRY TELLS VATICAN TO BUTT OUT

New York Post ^ | 3/29/04 | VINCENT MORRIS

[kattracks]

March 29, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - John Kerry says he's not worried over rumbling in the Catholic Church that his political positions are out of step with its teachings.

Despite positions on abortion and fetus-protection laws that oppose the church's, Kerry insists his faith will not be a campaign issue.

[Howlin]

I'm sure the Pope is glad to hear from Mr. Kerry.

[JLS]

"I don't tell church officials what to do and church officials shouldn't tell American politicians what to do in the context of our public life," Kerry tells Time magazine.
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Mr. Kerry does not seem to have a good handle on this religion thing. I thought what belief in a religion meant was belief in a set of teachings? Sounds like Mr. Kerry is not a Roman Catholic, if he can not subscribe to the teachings of that Church.

[SkyPilot]

"The wicked walk on every side
when the vilest men are exaulted."

Psalm 12:8

[Prime Choice]

Kerry did not mention Bush by name when he asked, "What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds?"

Of course, when Bush backs up his words with deeds, he's savaged in the Leftist media as "unilateral" and "extremist."

Funny how the Kerry camp chose to overlook that. Hell, all they've been doing up until recently is bashing Bush over his deeds.

Frickin' hypocrites.

[Fledermaus]

Geez, this guy is a walking nightmare!

Seriously, if this country is still so STUPID (after Clinton) to elect this man President I'm going to have to leave.

I can't live any longer in a country full of that many idiots or I'll build nukes myself and blow it up! I can't take another four years of total insanity.

[Howlin]

Well, I understand they may not be too happy with his position on gay marriages either.

I am positive I read somewhere last week that a lot of Catholics were upset that he showed up at Mass in Idaho in ski clothes and took communion; considering his views, he's just begging for a slap down.

And I think the same article said that his staff had alerted the media that he'd be going, and that he got there late, thus holding up the entire service.

That ought to go down real well, huh?

[AmericanVictory]

You don't understand. He was for the Pope before he was against the Pope. He was for the Church before he was against the Church. His religion is nuanced, just as is his attitude toward this truly great Pope, Ronald Reagan's friend.

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

From what I understand, Kerry isn't a Catholic--he just claims to be one.

How arrogant the liberals are! They believe they have some fundamental right to redefine membership in any group they belong or don't belong to.

[Minuteman23]

Kerry is a convenient Catholic. I have a real good guess about what God thinks of them. But He'll be the one to sort them out in the end.

[Democratshavenobrains]

Liberals think that unless you support unlimited welfare and AIDS funding, you are against Christ.

[daddyOwe]

I was raised a Catholic. One of the reasons I am no longer a Democrat is the fact that the Democrats do not share my moral beliefs on issues.

[Minuteman23]

That's only a part of their scewed interpretation of Chritianity. They always interpret Jesus' love of the poor as a justification for entitlement programs and taxing the rich to death. They will twist anything to their advantage---even the Bible.

[NYCVirago]

Meanwhile, Kerry came under fire from President Bush for using a Bible verse to criticize leaders. Kerry did not mention Bush by name when he asked, "What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds?"

According to another article on this subject, Kerry spoke more pointedly at Bush than that:

"We look at what is happening in America today and we say, 'Where are the works of compassion' ... We ask, 'Where are the deeds?"'

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1106796/posts

[KangarooJacqui]

KERRY TELLS VATICAN TO BUTT OUT

Given his stance, I'm surprised Mr Kerry didn't tell the Pope to F. Off...

[gortklattu]

Evil will use scripture in its dealings with the ignorant.

[IrishRainy]

He's NOT a Catholic. He has voted repeatedly in favor of abortion and PBA, yet he receives communion on the infrequent occasions he attends Mass at all. For that alone, he should be publicly excommunicated.

[Miss Marple]

This passage from Proverbs comes to mind:

Pride goeth before a fall, and a haughty spirit before destruction.

[Stakka Skynet]

How can you quote scriptures after voting in support of partial birth abortion? Kerry really makes sick. What a disgusting creature.

[tbpiper]

Mr. Kerry is not a Roman Catholic

More like "Roamin' Catholic". Ask the Mrs.'s Kerrys.

[giotto]

I don't know why anyone would identify himself as a Catholic, unless he is willing to abide by the teachings and precepts of the Church. Some people seem to think it's some kind of a cafeteria religion, where you can just pick and choose the rules you want to obey. Is that the legacy of Vatican II, or just the legacy of the 60's generation?

[magua]

The church has given the life gaurd a free pass forever.The Catholic church has little credibilty.

[John Thornton]

Not to mention that he was able to get his 18 year marriage (with children) annulled by the Catholic Church---and joked about it:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37755

[Happy2BMe]

"KERRY TELLS VATICAN TO BUTT OUT"

Your ping lists . .

[Happy2BMe]

Now what do you suppose it would look like when Kerry tells the pope to

BUTT OUT!?

When I'm President, Gay Priests Can Do Abortions - RIGHT HERE!

[guadianangel]

We should make religion and abortion an issue.
John Kerry can't have both ways.
He can't be a catholic and "pro-choice" at the same time. Pro-choice is just a hidden word por abortion.
Hispanics for example, are deeply religious and follow the teachings and recomendations of the Pope closely.

We should put Kerry on the defensive. He will not be able to tell Hispanis that he is against abortion and tell the rest that he is "pro-choice.

He will in fact be between a rock and a hard place. He could probably loose a lot of Hispanic votes.

I do have plan to spread the word within the Hispanic community about his pro-abortion views

[NYer]

Sounds like Mr. Kerry is not a Roman Catholic, if he can not subscribe to the teachings of that Church.

John Kerry is the antithesis of catholicism.

Faithful Citizenship

In the Catholic tradition, responsible citizenship is a virtue; participation in the political process is a moral obligation.

Faithful Citizenship: A Catholic Call to Political Responsibility

[imfleck]

Dude, relax.

[freeangel]

I believe a loud and formal excommunication is what is needed here.

[gakrak]

Now I know Kerry is nuts, not all catholics are spineless.
With them who will they follow Pope - Kerry or Kerry - Pope.
They just might put more credibility on the Pope.

[rewrite]

He apparently feels differently about anonymous foreign leaders than he does the Pope.

[sakic]

I can't live any longer in a country full of that many idiots or I'll build nukes myself and blow it up! I can't take another four years of total insanity.

Are you looking for 72 virgins?

[OXENinFLA]

"I don't tell church officials what to do and church officials shouldn't tell American politicians what to do in the context of our public life," Kerry tells Time magazine.

"Now vote for me."

"How dare President Bush bring religion into this political season!

[smiley]

.....by their fruits, we shall know them.....

[xm177e2]

John Kerry sez Catholics should shut up about policies which go against his. He also sez that George Bush is not a good Christian. It's unfair for right-wingers to use religion to attack left-wingers, but the opposite is fair game </sarcasm>

[NHResident]

The Boston Glop had a big article last week about how Cardinal O'Malley has to pick and choose which churches to close in Boston. The Boston Archdiocese has had a big drop in donations due to their refusal to do anything about pervert priests. They HAVE to get their operating dollars from somewhere. Until the day-to-day Catholics open their purses and wallets again - the Kennedy's and Kerry's will dictate and interpret for the press just exactly what Catholic principles and beliefs actually are. The Diocesan press will support them. Sheesh, the way you all carry on about morals and principles you'd think there existed a Decalogue fixed in stone or something. Got it?

[Ronin]

I think the Pope should tell Kerry he is excommunicated and welcome to convert to Unitarianism or some such crappola.

But, it's really not my call to make since I am not a Catholic.

I just wonder if I would want to belong to any club that would have him for a member.

If that sounds nasty, tough. It's the way I honestly feel. It really gripes my butt even to have to consider him a fellow citizen, let alone a fellow Navy Vet, after his naked betrayal of the United States following his Vietnam "service".

[Mo1]

I am positive I read somewhere last week that a lot of Catholics were upset that he showed up at Mass in Idaho in ski clothes and took communion; considering his views, he's just begging for a slap down.

He showed up in his ski cloths?

BTW .. this isn't the first time Kerry told the Pope to mind his own business

Kerry tells off the Pope

No more cutbacks on population control efforts around the world
John F. Kerry at NARAL Dinner. January 21, 2003

[StriperSniper]

Fox & Friends covering this now.

[lonerepubinma]

His staff was quoted as saying it was a photo op.
What a load.

[Mo1]

"As John Kennedy said very clearly, I will be a president who happens to be a Catholic, not a Catholic president."

Was John F. Kennedy pro-abortion?

[hellinahandcart]

The middle photo is priceless.

[StriperSniper]

That was before my time. I don't know if that sort of thing was even talked about then.

[OXENinFLA]

SUN VALLEY, Idaho, March 23, 2004 (LifeSiteNews.com) - John Kerry made a campaign stop in Idaho over the weekend, including a stop for Mass at Our Lady of the Snows Catholic Church. Mass began at 10:30; Kerry, who was provided with a two-pew cordoned-off VIP section, arrived loudly at 10:41 -- in a ski suit.

To make matters worse, Kerry received Holy Communion despite the fact that he is not a Catholic in good standing, and does not normally attend Mass.

"It was just a media-op," a senior staff member in the Kerry campaign told the American Spectator. "We set it up with some reporters that we knew were going to be there."

John Kerry, who does not hesitate to promote himself as a Catholic, has made a point of highlighting his support for abortion with no restrictions. He was praised by the abortion extremist group NARAL Pro-Choice America as having a 100% pro-abortion voting record.

See the LifeSiteNews.com special report, which also reveals that Kerry, as an elected official, said he must separate his personal religious views from his actions as a legislator and that it is not "appropriate in the United States for a legislator to legislate personal religious beliefs for the rest of the country," at:http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/feb/040 204a.html

Kerry Catholicism a "Media-Op" Church Scandal

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Yeah, it was a rather under reported story that should have gotten more attention IMO.

[patriot_wes]

"Meanwhile, Kerry came under fire from President Bush for using a Bible verse to criticize leaders"

...don't you guys get it? there are no rules if you're a demrat! (especially a dimrat like Kerry

[Republic]

Kerry is a convenient Catholic.

Just perfect.

This should be the next ad. President Bush practices his faith, IT IS WHO HE IS! Kerry uses his faith according to the current political breeze. On one minute, off the next. A scary insight into this character.

[Mo1]

Mass began at 10:30; Kerry, who was provided with a two-pew cordoned-off VIP section, arrived loudly at 10:41 -- in a ski suit.

Sounds like he missed half the mass with the Readings and Gospel and showed up just in time for Communion ...

To make matters worse, Kerry received Holy Communion despite the fact that he is not a Catholic in good standing, and does not normally attend Mass.

That answered my next question .. sounds like Kerry is only a Catholic during his campaign

[zook]

So, let's get this straight. Kerry had no problem when "foreign leaders" who support him. But any "foreign leader" who is critical must "butt out"?

[sauropod]

The chaff is fairly jumping off the wheat, isn't it?

[crz]

I will not leave. I will take up arms along with my other god fearing americans and take back our nation all over again. If it must come to civil unrest, then civil unrest it will be. I have had it with these ...