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Kerry & Clarke 9/11 Culpability: The Senate Intel Committee Findings on 9/11!
Committee Reports ^ | Senate Select Committee on Intelligence

Posted on 03/29/2004 8:41:11 PM PST by xzins

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As a primary mover and shaker on the Senate Select Intelligence Committee, John Kerry was privy to all of our nation's special intelligence on terrorism. In his own words, Clarke was, of course, the nation's terrorism czar. But Kerry was on the watchdog, Senate Intelligence Committee and should have been more proactive in getting information.

This is especially true since he served during the tenure of a Democratic President, Bill Clinton.

Throughout this entire time of his tenure on that committee, the above intelligence was banging around the intel agencies of our government.

There is no indication that John Kerry raised a red flag about these 9/11 precursors. In fact, as Systemic Finding #3 points out, his intelligence budget cutting tendencies CONTRIBUTED to 9/11.

John Kerry KNEW or SHOULD HAVE KNOWN.....He blew it! He was a democrat on the Intelligence Committee, Vice Chairman for a time, DURING the Clinton years. The Clinton People Knew or Should Have Known....They blew it!

1 posted on 03/29/2004 8:41:12 PM PST by xzins
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To: xzins
INTREP - VNVAJK
2 posted on 03/29/2004 8:45:32 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: xzins
yup, and as we all know now that the only thing that REALLY concerned Bubba Clinton was to have Monica give him a blowjob instead of him doing his job as Commander-in Chief and blowing up terrorists.
3 posted on 03/29/2004 8:54:56 PM PST by prophetic
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To: xzins
As reported here on FR a couple of weeks ago, there was a security investigation performed at Boston Logan Int'l airport just months before 911, and the folks there sent a desperate plea to Kerry to do something about the security lapses they had found. They reported that there was a very high probability that hijackings would take place from Logan.

They went to Kerry because they felt the FAA AG would blow them off, and it was Kerry's backyard. He forwarded the letter to the FAA AG anyway and sent the agents a nice little note explaining that it wasn't his business to interfere!

The little pissant could have done something, but chose not too because it would have exposed him for not doing his job and for what he really is, a freaking longhairedpinkocommiefag who doesn't give a rat about this country!

Soap box is put away now and my blood pressure is down slightly. Man this guy just pisses me off every time I see or hear his name, don't even get me started on seeing his Lurch lookalike face! (Sorry Lurch, I know it's not your fault!)

4 posted on 03/29/2004 8:55:00 PM PST by SZonian (The truth hurts, so bury it! (Liberal tagline))
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To: xzins
In short, the "intelligence" because the democRAT party REQUIRED that it fail!!!!!
5 posted on 03/29/2004 8:57:15 PM PST by Waco
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To: SZonian
Good stuff. Any way you can look up that Boston Logan link you mentioned? Thanks.
6 posted on 03/29/2004 9:00:37 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
I bet Kerry proof read and edited Clarke's book! There is a pattern of behavior with the democrats - when they start pointing out the failings of others - they are usually the guilty party.
7 posted on 03/29/2004 9:02:23 PM PST by TrueBeliever9
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To: prophetic
I agree.

The issue now, though, is John Kerry. He was there getting intel briefings throughout the years of Al Qaida's killing of a number of Americans and their plotting to attack our homeland.

Kerry should have known.

He did nothing.

8 posted on 03/29/2004 9:03:29 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
http://www.johnkerry.com/download/submitted/Kerry_Books2.pdf

Kerry believes “We need a new approach to national security - a bold, progressive internationalism that stands in stark contrast to the too often belligerent and myopic unilateralism of the Bush Administration.

GAG!!!
9 posted on 03/29/2004 9:05:19 PM PST by adam_az (Call your state Republican party office and VOLUNTEER FOR A CAMPAIGN!!!)
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To: xzins
Works for me.
10 posted on 03/29/2004 9:06:31 PM PST by Howlin (Charter Member of the Incredible Interlocking Institutional Power!!!!)
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To: xzins
bmp
11 posted on 03/29/2004 9:08:54 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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SENATOR KERRY FOUGHT TO SLASH INTELLIGENCE FUNDING BY AT LEAST $2.5 BILLION

1995: Proposed Bill Cutting $1.5 Billion From Intelligence Budget. Kerry introduced a bill that would “reduce the Intelligence budget by $300 million in each of fiscal years 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, and 2000.”There were no cosponsors of Kerry’s bill, which never made it to the floor for a vote. (S. 1290, Introduced 9/29/95)1995: Voted To Slash FBI Funding By $80 Million. (H.R. 2076, CQ Vote #480: Adopted 49-41: R 9-40; D 40-1, 9/29/95, Kerry Voted Yea)

1994: Proposed Bill To Gut $1 Billion From Intelligence And Freeze Spending For Two Major Intelligence Programs. Kerry proposed a bill cutting $1 billion from the budgets of the National Foreign Intelligence Program and from Tactical Intelligence, and freezing their budgets. The bill did not make it to a vote, but the language was later submitted (and defeated – see below) as S. Amdt. 1452 to H.R. 3759. (S. 1826, Introduced 2/3/94)

1997: Kerry Questioned Growth Of Intelligence Community After Cold War. “Now that that [Cold War] struggle is over, why is it that our vast intelligence apparatus continues to grow even as Government resources for new and essential priorities fall far short of what is necessary? …” (Senator John Kerry Agreeing That Critic's Concerns Be Addressed, Congressional Record, 5/1/97, p. S3891)

When His Bill Stalled In Committee, Kerry Proposed $1 Billion Cut As Amendment Instead. Kerry proposed cutting $1 billion from the National Foreign Intelligence Program and Tactical Intelligence budgets, and freezing their budgets. The amendment was defeated, with even Graham, Lieberman and Braun voting against Kerry. (Amdt.. To H.R. 3759, CQ Vote #39: Rejected 20-75: R 3-37; D 17-38, 2/10/94, Kerry Voted Yea; Graham, Lieberman And Braun Voted Nay)
12 posted on 03/29/2004 9:13:22 PM PST by FairOpinion (Zell Miller (D):"Im on George Bushs side because hes on the side of the American people.")
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To: FairOpinion
Great info that supports the Systemic Findings problem #3 being CAUSED by Sen. John Kerry. Can you give me a link for your source(s)? Thanks.
13 posted on 03/29/2004 9:16:45 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: adam_az; xzins
Kerry continues to tout his book, "The New War," as evidence that he was ahead of the curve on terrorism.

I looked through the book - it isn't about the terrorism we have experienced. Kerry thought the primary threat to the world was mafia-like international criminal networks - mainly for pushing drugs.

Kerry was clueless then and he is clueless now

The funniest part is that Kerry refers to the message in his book as "a call to arms," but arms are the last thing he suggests in his book using against the criminals - it all about police and courts!
14 posted on 03/29/2004 9:26:26 PM PST by Spotsy (Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: xzins
JOHN KERRY's RECORD ON INTELLIGENCE

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1067001/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1083528/posts?page=7#7

Curiously enough the origianl page listed http://bjcat0.tripod.com/kerryrecord.htm
has been taken down -- I wonder if Kerry threatened to sue, as he did other sites, that said the truth about him.

http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3982

September 29, 1995: Kerry Proposed S. 1290, Gutting $1.5 Billion From Intelligence Budget. The bill “[r]educe[d] the Intelligence budget by $300 million in each of fiscal years 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, and 2000.” S. 1290 had no cosponsors and never made it to the floor for a vote. (S. 1290, Introduced 9/29/95)

15 posted on 03/29/2004 9:28:07 PM PST by FairOpinion (Zell Miller (D):"Im on George Bushs side because hes on the side of the American people.")
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To: Spotsy
I wondered what was in his book.

But, he was chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism & Drugs. I thought it would be focused in that direction. Thanks for very good info.

Kerry, though, did get the intel briefings from Clarke and others.

That makes KERRY CULPABLE for 9/11! If Pres. Bush is culpable after 8 mos. with all the failures mentioned in the Senate report working against him, then Kerry is certainly culpable after being on the Senate Intel committee from the MOST IMPORTANT years of 1995 to 2001!
16 posted on 03/29/2004 9:34:38 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: FairOpinion; SAMWolf
Thank you. Really helpful stuff.

The Samwolf post is excellent, isn't it?

17 posted on 03/29/2004 9:39:34 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
Kerry has a link to DUh on his site!!!!

http://www.johnkerry.com/onlinehq/bbn.html

18 posted on 03/29/2004 9:53:00 PM PST by adam_az (Call your state Republican party office and VOLUNTEER FOR A CAMPAIGN!!!)
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DUh.........

I went there once and was banned inside of hours -- and all I did was defend Israel.

19 posted on 03/29/2004 9:56:09 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
bump
20 posted on 03/29/2004 9:57:51 PM PST by dalebert
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To: TrueBeliever9
The GOP need to take the gloves off. I have an idea that I mentioned on another thread earlier. The Bush/Cheney campaign needs to find a way to force John Kerry to say where he stands on REPARATIONS. If he is for it, he will alienate millions of Independents and Democrats. If he is against it, many black Americans will stay home on election day. A win-win situation for The Prez.? What say ye?
21 posted on 03/29/2004 10:00:15 PM PST by no dems
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To: xzins
With that information .. what is the rationale for this 9/11 commission then ..??

As far as I'm concerned, this 9/11 commission is nothing more than a witch hunt to attack President Bush and blame him for all the terrible eight years of disgusting disregard for the national security of America foisted upon us by the CLINTON ADMIN.
22 posted on 03/29/2004 10:02:18 PM PST by The Final Harvest (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: CyberAnt
I was thinking the same thing. This Senate/House report was pretty thorough. Why go through it again?

Because it's geared to land during an election year.

Perhaps there's a bit of new info out there, but reading through this report and listening to Clarke gripe the last 2 weeks, I haven't heard anything new that isn't already in this Senate report.
23 posted on 03/29/2004 10:06:54 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: TrueBeliever9
The democrats are innoculating themselves in case their culpability gets put on the big screen during the last 30 days of the campaign.
24 posted on 03/29/2004 10:10:39 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: prophetic
Bubba found some WMD in his pants
25 posted on 03/29/2004 10:11:39 PM PST by woofie ( 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.)
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To: Howlin
Turn-about is fair play still, isn't it?

How 'bout this for a title: "Sen. Kerry Lied About Absence of Al-Qaeda in Iraq!"

26 posted on 03/29/2004 10:12:58 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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Read tomorrow bump
27 posted on 03/29/2004 10:13:17 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: xzins
Kerry was given specific information that Logan airport was vulnerable to hijacking six months before the 9/11 attacks and he did nothing.
28 posted on 03/29/2004 10:15:36 PM PST by Eva
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To: Eva
Do you remember the link for the Logan info. I'd like to put it in my database. Thanks.
29 posted on 03/29/2004 10:16:40 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
No, it's been around too long.
30 posted on 03/29/2004 10:17:56 PM PST by Eva
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To: xzins
I did find THIS
31 posted on 03/29/2004 10:20:37 PM PST by Eva
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To: xzins
ANOTHER Kerry was warned thread, with links.
32 posted on 03/29/2004 10:25:05 PM PST by Eva
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To: xzins
I agree with you - Big Time, as our VP would say - Kerry has at least as much, if not more to answer for than Bush.

So, Kerry should shut up and stop trying to take the focus off of the evil-doers.

Thank you for this excellent thread and great info!
33 posted on 03/29/2004 10:25:35 PM PST by Spotsy (Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: xzins
I am thoroughly convinced this is the intel plan the senate dems were cooking up when the memos got revealed.

They said they were going to use the intel info against the President, and they sure are.

However, according to the latest polls, the President has already bounced above where he was when this mess started. Looks like their little scheme didn't work!
34 posted on 03/29/2004 10:25:49 PM PST by The Final Harvest (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: Spotsy
I think it is entirely unfair to attack anyone in a highly complex job after only 8 mos. Not only that, President Bush didn't get to have a transition team get into the White House and prepare to take over because of Gore's insistence on recounting dead men's votes in only 3 counties in Florida.

Likewise, once the Pres. did take over, do you remember that the Dem's took over the Senate when Jumpin' Jeffords Jumped!

The Dems IMMEDIATELY stalled the confirmation process for all of the President's people.

He didn't have his team in place until June. That means that he had only 3 months of real control before 9/11 hit.

It strikes me that John Kerry is FAR MORE culpable than is the President.
35 posted on 03/29/2004 10:35:20 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: Eva
Thanks, Eva. I appreciate this.

I owe you one. :>)
36 posted on 03/29/2004 10:36:56 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: CyberAnt
MemoGate....

The most significant memo was published by Weekly Standard and showed 50 some odd connections to Al Qaeda before 9/11, didn't it?

That's probably why the whining Dems are not pushing too hard for MemoGate lawyers and independent commissions.
37 posted on 03/29/2004 10:38:55 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
Bump. This is going to take time!
38 posted on 03/30/2004 12:59:00 AM PST by AnimalLover
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To: AnimalLover
Do you mean...getting the word out?
39 posted on 03/30/2004 5:35:20 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: MJY1288; Calpernia; Grampa Dave; anniegetyourgun; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER; Jessamine; ...
Ping
40 posted on 03/30/2004 5:37:20 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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Ping
41 posted on 03/30/2004 5:38:04 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
Thanks for post and ping!
42 posted on 03/30/2004 5:44:46 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: xzins; StriperSniper; Mo1
BUMPING....................
43 posted on 03/30/2004 5:47:08 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: xzins
I think it is entirely unfair to attack anyone in a highly complex job after only 8 mos. Not only that, President Bush didn't get to have a transition team get into the White House and prepare to take over because of Gore's insistence on recounting dead men's votes in only 3 counties in Florida.

Add to that the deliberate attempt to delay many of President Bush's appointments in key national security positions:

For months, Sen. Levin personally had held up the confirmation hearings of Bush's appointees who were to design the U.S. antiterrorism strategy - Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith, Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Programs J.D. Crouch and Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs Peter W. Rodman - refusing for apparently partisan purposes to allow them to take office until late July 2001. While Levin was holding up their appointments, the incoming Pentagon policy team had no legal or political authority to do their vital jobs - a fact that helps explain why it took eight months for the Bush administration to draw up a strategic operational plan to destroy al-Qaeda.

(Clinton) Holdovers in addition to Clarke) Held Up Security Strategy ("MUST READ")

44 posted on 03/30/2004 5:48:58 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Cap Huff
As you read through this report, you see awesome ignorance on the part of the so-called "Terror Czar" Richard Clarke. It is now evident that part of his purpose in slamming Bush is obfuscating his own culpability....criminal negligence(?)...in the 9/11 disaster. He was the one who was supposed to pull all these things together.

Kerry was Vice-Chair of the Senate Intel Committee and is constitutionally charged with providing for the security of the nation.....and PROVIDING means both oversight AND MONEY! He starved the intel community.

They also received briefings from the Clintonistas who were in charge...they MISSED this stuff that they should have known! For Pete's sake they endured Al Qaeda attack after Al Qaeda attack -- Why wouldn't they have put 2+2 together??!!!

45 posted on 03/30/2004 5:50:42 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
I agree with all that you wrote . . .


I remember how badly everyone treated Bush between Jan 20 - Sept 11, 2001. The transition was difficult. Even the media treated him poorly - they practically boycotted George until 9/11.

I will never forgive Trent Lott and the Republicans for "sharing" leadership on the Hill - and I will never forget little Tommy Daschle dancing around the Capitol when Jeffords switched parties. The people of South Dakota would be dong this nation a great favor if they voted Tommy out of office this fall. His opponent, Thune, has a pretty good chance - just got a key Indian endorsement.

Anyway, Kerry should be made to eat the committee report you posted before he tries to utter one more word about Bush.
46 posted on 03/30/2004 5:52:00 AM PST by Spotsy (Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: Quilla
Excellent stuff and right on the money! Thanks Quilla.

I know that Kerry left the Intel Committee in mid-2001. Any idea if Levin was also on that committee?

I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but one has to wonder if they had a plan to discredit the Bush Administration. The Intelligence Committee was closed down by Pat Roberts because of Dem Strategies to use their Intel Knowledge AGAINST the President.

Would they hate America so much that they'd PLAN or ALLOW Al Qaeda to get through the breeches that they already knew existed? Would they keep new people out of their positions so things couldn't get fixed?

It explains Kerry ignoring SPECIFIC LETTERS written to him about Boston Logan Airport being the site where the hijackings would occur....Click here for Kerry Culpability for Logan Airpost, Boston

47 posted on 03/30/2004 5:57:47 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: no dems
That is not my area to concentrate upon. I am called to pray for Bush daily - for Godly wisdom and that the LORD turn his heart where HE wants it and the LORD's will be done. And, for the LORD to raise up prayer warriors in this Nation! For the victory will be achieved not by might, not by power but by the Holy Spirit of the LORD God of Israel. The other issue does not interest me in the least! Foolish people bearing fools lawsuits! I shall not be distracted.
48 posted on 03/30/2004 6:00:09 AM PST by TrueBeliever9
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To: Spotsy; Eva
Thanks, Spotsy.

See the link at at #47. (Eva found that for me.)
49 posted on 03/30/2004 6:00:12 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
And Kerry (and Levin) slow-rolled the Bush transition in 2001, forcing them to keep holdovers like Clarke, Beers, etc. From another thread this morning:

Cheney's comment [that Clarke was out of the loop on the evolving counter-terrorism strategy] is consistent with previous news reports, which administration officials confirm, that the White House national-security process is unusually compartmented, so that even senior NSC officials would not necessarily know of secret strategic planning. Much of the reason, administration sources say, is because of the many Clinton holdovers in the top ranks of government who were from the start working to kill plans they didn't like by leaking them to left-wing media.

The Bush team was too accommodating to the lousy Clintonoids -- shouldn't have kept them on because, as we've seen, they've betrayed any trust that was given to them. There are still plenty lurking in the rat corners of the Administration today.

Bush and Condi should now turn on these rats, and place the blame where it belongs: Clinton (and Clarke) had 8 years to address the problem and did NOTHING! Bush had, at best, 8 months... even less when you think of the slow-roll the Democrats gave his transition. I know he doesn't want to point fingers, but the way the Dems/Media are spinning it, perhaps he needs to acknowlege: He didn't do enough -- and for that, perhaps, he should "apologize" along with the recognition that his mistake was in not cleaning out the weak, appeasing Clintonoids as soon as he entereed the White House. Just some angry thoughts this morning.

50 posted on 03/30/2004 6:01:10 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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