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Marines' weapon loaded with 'scream'
Daily Mail ^ | March 11, 2004 | William Lowther

Posted on 03/31/2004 4:38:30 AM PST by billorites

US troops are to be armed with a stun gun that uses a baby's high-pitched scream to bring the enemy to its knees.

The gun, which will be issued to marines in Iraq this month, fires "sonic bullets" that can be targeted like a torch beam.

Anyone hit with a full blast would suffer excruciating pain, permanent deafness and some form of cellular damage. A prolonged blast could kill.

The "Secret Scream" gun as it is called, could revolutionise the way US troops deal with snipers, suicide bombers and riots in the turmoil of post-war Iraq.

The actual sound used is a recording of a baby's scream played backwards.

"For most people, even if they plug their ears, it will produce the equivalent of an instant migraine," said Woody Norris, chairman of American Technology Corporation, the Californian company that has produced the weapon.

"It will knock some people to their knees."

Near human pain threshold

While the sound gun will normally be fired at just 110 decibels - a level that causes the human skull to vibrate - it can travel as far as 300 yards at 145 decibels.

The human threshold of pain is usually between 120 and 130 decibels.

Pentagon sources said it would be used in Iraq as an alternative to bullets to break up riots or protests, to stop suspects approaching check points and force snipers from buildings or caves.

The manufacturer tested the gun on volunteers last month.

No one could stand a 110 decibel blast for more than a few seconds.

Previous attempts to use acoustic weapons have failed because the sound travelled in every direction, affecting the operator as well as the enemy.

Individuals can be targeted

But the Secret Scream's ultrasound wave allows the operator to target one or two key individuals in a crowd.

"Tear gas lingers long after you've fired the canisters. This, you switch it off and it's gone," Mr Norris said.

The weapon consists of two parts, a megaphone the size of a commercial satellite dish mounted on an armoured vehicle, and a computerised operating system that aims and controls the sound waves.

There is a smaller version that can be held in the hand, similar to the soundwave gun used by Tom Cruise in the movie Minority Report.

The Secret Scream sends out two ultrasonic waves at different frequencies.

Each set of waves is too high to hear, but they generate audible sound when they overlap. The effect is called "acoustical heterodyning".

Secret Pentagon research

A secret division in the Pentagon has been financing research on futuristic weapons for more than 15 years.

This is the first to go into operation. Retired US marine Colonel Peter Dotto, a weapons consultant, said the gun would be "terrific for repelling suicide bombers and for rousting terrorists from their hideouts".

"Because the sound ricochets in tight, enclosed areas, it would make it very uncomfortable for Al Qaeda terrorists to stay in caves," he said.

"They would have to come out, and they probably would come out with their hands over their ears."




TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; iraq; miltech; nonlethalweapons

1 posted on 03/31/2004 4:38:30 AM PST by billorites
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To: billorites
Loaded with "Scream?" They should be loaded with "Death!"
2 posted on 03/31/2004 4:41:30 AM PST by Living Free in NH
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To: billorites
Neato!!!

I want one!
3 posted on 03/31/2004 4:42:14 AM PST by Ronin (When the fox gnaws, smile!!)
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To: billorites
I thought Dean invented this.
4 posted on 03/31/2004 4:44:10 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: *bang_list
*REALLY LOUD BANG!

Personally speaking, I'd rather carry an M4 or one of those .50 cal sniper rifles.

5 posted on 03/31/2004 4:45:54 AM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that does not trust you with guns?)
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To: Living Free in NH
Think about it: THIS way you can get perps alive for interrogation, and root out the REST of the scum. . .
6 posted on 03/31/2004 4:46:20 AM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: billorites
Is the manufacturer Monsters Inc?
7 posted on 03/31/2004 4:48:03 AM PST by 6ppc
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To: billorites
This is fine if you want to catch someone alive--like a high-level terrorist planner--so that you can "extract" intelligence information. But it's absurd to suggest you would use this against any common soldier or terrorist (particularly a suicide bomber). For these low-level combatants, bullets, genades, or bombs are by far the best weapons.
8 posted on 03/31/2004 4:50:04 AM PST by SpyGuy
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To: billorites
When scream guns are banned, only babies will have them...
9 posted on 03/31/2004 4:50:27 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (DEFUND PBS & NPR - THE AMERICAN PRAVDA)
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To: 6ppc
I was thinking the same thing.

Mascot of the deployed unit - the one eyed guy, or the hairy blurple monster.
10 posted on 03/31/2004 4:50:54 AM PST by PokeyJoe (FreeBSD; The devil made me do it..)
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To: billorites
The "Hillary" Gun?
11 posted on 03/31/2004 4:51:14 AM PST by Imagine
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To: Imagine
The "Hillary" Gun?

that sound that Dean makes would be pretty dangerous

12 posted on 03/31/2004 4:57:36 AM PST by alrea (Kerry, unions and the U.N. will stop war and obesity, while creating jobs.)
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To: billorites
The first thing I thoughr of when I heard this was that there was a similar weapon in Atlas Shrugged.

Spooky
13 posted on 03/31/2004 4:57:37 AM PST by anobjectivist (Publically edumacated)
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To: BulletBobCo
HEEEEYYYYAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
14 posted on 03/31/2004 4:57:45 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: billorites

15 posted on 03/31/2004 5:01:38 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: billorites

16 posted on 03/31/2004 5:02:32 AM PST by Constitution Day (Over 140,000 FReepers, and just about all of us will be going pro in something other than politics.)
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To: billorites
US troops are to be armed with a stun gun that uses a baby's high-pitched scream


17 posted on 03/31/2004 5:02:43 AM PST by Puppage (S)
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To: billorites
I want one.
18 posted on 03/31/2004 5:04:16 AM PST by playball0
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To: billorites
With my luck I'd run into a deaf suicide bomber.
19 posted on 03/31/2004 5:04:32 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Just once I'd like to get by on my looks.)
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To: billorites
Proof once again that Mother Nature still makes the best weapons! I have been in stores and heard babies scream - it goes right to the central nervous system.
20 posted on 03/31/2004 5:05:31 AM PST by mean lunch lady (Native Floridian)
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To: billorites
The actual sound used is a recording of a baby's scream played backwards.

Can't wait to have kids:)
21 posted on 03/31/2004 5:06:49 AM PST by Vision (Always Faithful)
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To: billorites
While the sound gun will normally be fired at just 110 decibels - a level that causes the human skull to vibrate - it can travel as far as 300 yards at 145 decibels. The human threshold of pain is usually between 120 and 130 decibels.

Let's put a big honkin' Linear amp on it and see if we can hit 160db, maybe we can get them to explode!!!

22 posted on 03/31/2004 5:08:52 AM PST by Vinnie_Vidi_Vici
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To: Puppage
MY favorite.
23 posted on 03/31/2004 5:11:13 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: billorites
Anyone hit with conventional bullets will usually suffer permanent death.
24 posted on 03/31/2004 5:13:14 AM PST by Shut up and take it
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To: SpyGuy
What was it Powell said during the Gulf War? "All the tools in the toolbox."

Use this thing like sonic teargas gas and hose suspected caves with it. When the bad guys come out, Barrett away...
25 posted on 03/31/2004 5:16:39 AM PST by ISonnet
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To: Puppage
US troops are to be armed with a stun gun that uses a baby's high-pitched scream

Also in development is a diaper gun.

26 posted on 03/31/2004 5:18:41 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
Did they ever finish that Lepage's glue gun?
"Glues a whole formation of planes together in mid-air" - from Catch-22
27 posted on 03/31/2004 5:22:34 AM PST by mean lunch lady (Native Floridian)
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To: billorites
Here's a creapy thought: How did they collect the baby's scream?
28 posted on 03/31/2004 5:23:12 AM PST by Peter J. Huss
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To: Wilhelm Tell
hehe
29 posted on 03/31/2004 5:24:37 AM PST by Puppage (I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to your death,my right to say it.)
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To: ISonnet
What was it Powell said during the Gulf War? "All the tools in the toolbox." Use this thing like sonic teargas gas and hose suspected caves with it.

Sounds good on paper. Until you realize that sound pressure level will drop with the square of the distance from the sound source. Even within the confines of a cave (which will channel the sound and prevent the energy from dissipating in space), there will be natural attenuation that will quickly diminish the effectiveness of any acoustic weapon. And that's discounting any artificial attenuation created by the enemy (such as doors and baffling).

Furthermore, this device requires the focused interaction of two sonic "beams": it is the harmonics generated at the intersection of these two beams that creates the disabling acoustic energy. The only way these two beams can be effectively focused is in free space (i.e., open air); you can just shoot them both down a tunnel and expect them to come together down in the terrorist's living room.

A far better tool to have in the warriors "toolbox" for clearing out tunnels and underground bunkers is the subterranean-detonating nuclear bunker-buster bomb. But the Liberals have quashed that one because it isn't happy-happy, friendly-friendly enough.

30 posted on 03/31/2004 6:11:12 AM PST by SpyGuy
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To: Peter J. Huss
How did they collect the baby's scream?

That's easy: they were about to pass the baby to Kerry for a campaign photo op...

31 posted on 03/31/2004 6:13:55 AM PST by SpyGuy
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To: SpyGuy
You just had to bring math into the discussion! : )

A nuke bunker buster, eh? Instead of: "Bring the mountain to Mohammed," that would be "Bring the mountain down on Mohammed."

Agreed, a tough PC sell, but they've got conventional versions along with the thermobaric (sp?) bombs that if I remember correctly are designed in part to consume the O2 in a cave.

I wish the Pakis had requested some aggressive air support on their most recent clash.
32 posted on 03/31/2004 6:26:50 AM PST by ISonnet
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To: Salgak
Think about it: THIS way you can get perps alive for interrogation, and root out the REST of the scum. . .

Anyone hit with a full blast would suffer excruciating pain, permanent deafness and some form of cellular damage.

LOL...I can see it now....

Interregator: OK, Mohamad, we gotcha fair and square. Now where's the rest of your evil band?

Mohamad: Huh? Huh? I see your lips moving, did you say something?

33 posted on 03/31/2004 6:34:04 AM PST by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: Peter J. Huss
How did they collect the baby's scream?

Having been around the little darlings a time or two - rest assured you don't need to "collect" anything.

34 posted on 03/31/2004 7:39:39 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Does this tag line make my butt look too big?)
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To: SpyGuy
I wrote: "you can just shoot them both down a tunnel and expect them to come together down in the terrorist's living room."

Meant to write: "you can't just shoot them both down a tunnel and expect them to come together down in the terrorist's living room.

35 posted on 03/31/2004 7:52:15 AM PST by SpyGuy
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To: billorites
Does it look like this?

I'm such a geek...

36 posted on 03/31/2004 7:57:42 AM PST by FierceDraka (Service and Glory!)
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To: billorites; cyborg
No one could stand a 110 decibel blast for more than a few seconds.

Bring it to a Heavy Metal show, people will laugh at it. ;-)

37 posted on 03/31/2004 8:02:44 AM PST by StriperSniper (Ernest Strada Fanclub)
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To: StriperSniper
they established a new standard in ear splitting power by breaking their Guinness record for loudest band in the world. Two sound specialists officiated, measuring and documenting with painstaking care as Manowar shook the city, playing live at a staggering 129.5 decibels through 10 tons of amplifiers and speakers measuring 40 feet in length and 21 feet in height.

http://www.metalstorm.ee/bands/view_band.php?band_id=manowar

38 posted on 03/31/2004 8:08:11 AM PST by StriperSniper (Ernest Strada Fanclub)
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To: Peter J. Huss
Here's a creapy thought: How did they collect the baby's scream?

What even more creapy is thinking about an opposing force capturing or stealing a few of these weapons and learning how to use them against us in the field...

39 posted on 03/31/2004 8:13:04 AM PST by Vetnet ("Into this Mosaic of Freedom is laid, this precious piece of The Angels Brigade")
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To: SpyGuy
But it's absurd to suggest you would use this against any common soldier or terrorist (particularly a suicide bomber). For these low-level combatants, bullets, genades, or bombs are by far the best weapons.

Not necessarily. Remember the "Somali foxhole", where Somali gunmen would shot from between the legs of a woman? Non lethal force would be excellent for situations like that. Ditto the rock throwing little vermin in the Palestinian entifada. Should also come in handy for riot control in New York when the left wing scum come out to disrupt the Republican convention. Deafening them is also sweet as they would not be able to appreciate all music of their favorite recording artists. Lots of benefits here....
40 posted on 03/31/2004 8:16:44 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: onedoug
a sound that could kill someone....
41 posted on 03/31/2004 11:02:11 AM PST by windcliff
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To: windcliff
...from a distance.
42 posted on 03/31/2004 11:20:11 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Wilhelm Tell
Also in development is a diaper gun.

Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "lock and load."

43 posted on 03/31/2004 11:49:23 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: FierceDraka
No, it looks like this (the round black thingie behind the cops)

http://ftaaimc.org/images/2003/11/1717.jpg
44 posted on 04/18/2004 9:29:28 AM PDT by bcalabrese
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To: BulletBobCo
Dean perfected it but Al Gore invented it.
45 posted on 04/18/2004 9:34:30 AM PDT by PISANO (Our troops...... will NOT tire...will NOT falter.....and WILL NOT FAIL!!!)
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To: PISANO
It is a LRAD, Long Range Acoustic Device made by American Technology Corp (ATCO). Their web site is atcsd.com, http://atcsd.com/pdf/LRAD.pdf is the literature for LRAD. The sound DOES NOT drop off at a distance the way normal sound does, the energy is focused, it does not go in 360 degrees, like a flashlight.
46 posted on 04/18/2004 1:37:49 PM PDT by bcalabrese
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To: bcalabrese; All
I scream, you scream......

The next version will have someone's mother-in-law nagging about something, only speeded up and amplified.

47 posted on 04/18/2004 1:49:42 PM PDT by Othniel (Democrats are like roaches: Shine the Light on them, and they scatter for the darkness.)
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