ANWR drilling no solution to gasoline costs, Kerry says

adn.com ^ | March 31, 2004 | LIZ RUSKIN

[KQQL]

WASHINGTON -- While blaming President Bush for the high price of gasoline, his Democratic challenger, Sen. John Kerry, on Tuesday reiterated his opposition to drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, saying it is no solution.

"We deserve an administration that doesn't fake it to the American people and pretend that somehow by drilling in the Alaska wildlife refuge we can deal with the problems of America," Kerry, D-Mass., told university students in San Diego. "We can't provide the supply of oil America needs from the Alaska wildlife refuge or from any other source in the United States, because we only have 3 percent of the world's oil reserves."

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[Shermy]

Yeah, but it could help.

OPECKerry strikes again!

[Argus]

When Kerry is President, of course, we will be getting lots of free oil from the dictatorships that have already endorsed him - Iran, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia...

[AFPhys]

Kerry thinks the solution is to make the cost of gas high enough so it will be cost efficient to burn ketchup.

He's also going to tell OPEC where to shove it... but I'm not sure where he is planning to get oil from then.

[BenLurkin]

It it is good for America, then John F'n Qairi and the democrat party are going to be against it.

[N. Theknow]

Kerry doesn't want drilling in ANWR to reduce dependence on foreign oil but he wants to release the strategic oil reserves (to bring down gasoline prices) which are foreign oil.

ANWR = enough oil to run the country for several decades.

Strategic oil reserves = enough oil to run the country for a week or two.

[Army Air Corps]

OPEC = Organisation of Petroleum Extorting Countries

[repentant_pundit]

Ditto !!

[RightWhale]

ANWR is not so significant beyond keeping the State of Alaska's budget afloat a couple more years, but there is enough oil to be developed profitably.

[Dane]

OPECKerry strikes again!

And this was doubted how?

[HarryCaul]

It could help, but really not very substantially.

Really, the only long term solution to our dependency on foreign sources of energy is to develop non-fossil fuel sources. As dirty as the phrase "alternative energy" is to many conservatives, it's a basic national security issue. We *have* to pull away from this dependency on nations that don't like us, and while ANWR would help, it's not a solution in itself by any means.

[Integrityrocks]

"Tax and spend is the enemy of job creation,"

FINALLY!!! A substantial SOUND BIT that people will understand. We gotta use this.!!!

[marron]

Shut off domestic drilling and complain about foreign oil. Its the perfect policy.

[ErnBatavia]

Kerry, D-Mass., told university students in San Diego.

...Spewing his crap on safe turf again, I see.

[RightWhale]

ANWR = enough oil to run the country for several decades

It's months, not decades. We're still going off the cliff in 3-13 years. 3-12.5 years without ANWR.

[Army Air Corps]

Yep, and ANWR is just ONE source in the US. Its main advantage is that it is on land; lower exploration costs and shorter timetable to access the crude. We have a s#@*load of oil off shore, but it takes time and significantly money to get get to it. ANWR is also a significant source of natural gas...

[Army Air Corps]

Folks, ignore the hyperlink in my previous post. The FR system mistook my altered explitive for an e-mail address.

[RightWhale]

ANWR is also a significant source of natural gas...

It is. The Alaska North Slope Natural Gas Pipeline project is dead again. The developer withdrew his application.

[Army Air Corps]

Yes! Let's also keep in mind the number of wells in the US that went dormant due to excessive costs related to federal regs. In the Permain Basin there are wells that are not being exploited due to the prohibitive costs associated with exploration and exploitation. Petroleum exploration has become capital intensive over the years due, in large part, to federal actions.

[eggman]

"We can't provide the supply of oil America needs from the Alaska wildlife refuge or from any other source in the United States, because we only have 3 percent of the world's oil reserves."

This is like saying:

"We can't provide for the supply of tax revenue America needs by increasing taxes on the rich, or any other small group, because they only make up a small percentage of the taxpayers. We must instead decrease the government's demand for additional tax revenue by cutting government programs and stimulate development of new sources of income through private investment."

I don't think Kerry to bring himself to say something like this. It might cause his head to explode.

[LdSentinal]

Drilling in ANWR would kill the caribou, and the Democrats need to register caribou in order for Knowles to win in November.

[mwl1]

I swear it takes three of this effette man to make half a pansied moron.

[Army Air Corps]

The proposed drilling area in ANWR, from the aerial photos that I have seen, is largely a bog. The major fauna there is the mosquito (when not frozen).

[mwl1]

This will hurt Knowles and help Murkowski. Big time.

[KJacob]

Once again the AFL-CIO endorses someone who really cares about the workers. Let's see the unions oppose NAFTA(which Kerry supported) and support drilling in the Arctic (which Kerry opposes).

[RightWhale]

There was a big name investor in the Gas Pipeline project. If he withdrew, it's a safe bet that the investment doesn't look like a good idea right now whatever state officials, mayors, and Sen Murkowski say. Later, if there is a later.

[Puppage]

ANWR is not so significant beyond keeping the State of Alaska's budget afloat a couple more years

WHAT? Who says that? All I keep hearing is that ANWR is the 3rd largest (according to most reputable sources) petroleum find in the history of America, with enough oil to keep drilling for 30+ years.

[RightWhale]

Sure, but that doesn't mean it can supply more than a percent or so during those 30 years. Even Prudhoe Bay is only 17% of our oil. None of these are in the same league with Saudi and Iraq.

[sgtbono2002]

The Phrase Alternative Energy is not dirty at all to Conservatives, Produce Alternative energy at a cost we can afford and we will all stand in line. But it simply isnt there and wont be any time soon. So for now we use what we have.

[Army Air Corps]

We can also convert coal into petroleum...

In the 1930s a chemist developed a method of converting plant matter into coal and crude oil through a process of heat and pressure. His experiments were featured in Life magazine in the late 1930s. If they could do that with the primative technology of the time, we can certainly do better.

[farmfriend]

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While blaming President Bush for the high price of gasoline, his Democratic challenger, Sen. John Kerry, on Tuesday reiterated his opposition to drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, saying it is no solution.

"Since I'm not going to let you build refineries for the oil, what's the sense in drilling it," kerry explained.

[Sybeck1]

So it 3%!! It's our 3% though, Jean Cherie'!

[rintense]

BUT YOU PROMISED HOFFA JR. YOU WERE FOR THIS!!!!!

Ha.

[adam_az]

He also disputed Kerry's characterization of ANWR as an insignificant oil source.

"The idea that a million barrels a day is not a help to America is ludicrous," Stiefel said.

Kerry a lying assmunch.

That's the same amount he's whining about OPEC cutting production by!

[RightWhale]

I don't know what they call that process, but there should be a demonstration or pilot plant in operation now. In any case, they are not building these plants, and other alternatives are also expensive. We're going to miss our cheap oil. Have you looked at the Peak Oil theory?

[tractorman]

One would think that Congress would lift the Federal regulations that deny domestic drilling, especially during a war with the very same people that we buy oil.

[Army Air Corps]

During the course of doing research on the US Navy's conversion from coal to oil, I came across a memo from the then Secretary of the Navy. This memo, from the early 1900s, stated that experts predicted that with the level of the Navy's activities, that domestic oil supplies would be completely exhuasted in 20 years. Hmmm, the oil that we used in WWII must have appeared by magic. The fact is, we find new reserves of energy nearly every year and our ability to access it improves.

[Paulie]

I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry's people are behind OPEC's shennanigans.

[Puppage]

None of these are in the same league with Saudi and Iraq

Of course not, never said they were. But, I figure evey bit we can get without "their" assistance is well worth it.

[Dr. Frank fan]

It could help, but really not very substantially.

Because.....?

Really, the only long term solution to our dependency on foreign sources of energy is to develop non-fossil fuel sources.

Go ahead, be my guest. Meanwhile my car takes gas. Gas comes from oil. Our nation contains much land under which is oil, that we're not getting. Can you explain why not?

We *have* to pull away from this dependency on nations that don't like us

Right. That's what we're trying to do. They're our primary supplier, yet we have supplies in our own backyard, which we're not getting for some reason. Yet so I suggest we actually *get* that stuff from our backyard (so we don't have to get it from their monopoly) and people like you say "no, that's not gonna work". ????

while ANWR would help, it's not a solution in itself by any means.

Who's claiming it's a "solution by itself"? Call it a step in the right direction. I hope you're not arguing we shouldn't take that step because it's not a "solution by itself".

[Army Air Corps]

Well, friends and relatives in the industry are disgusted with the sluggishness of the bureaucracy. Most Americans have no idea just how long it takes to tap oil in a pool. You do not just set-up a drilling rig and start drilling. The reams of paperwork and the MONTHS of waiting for all the clearances makes the time from discovery to pumping average 2 to 3 years. Sometimes, the lag time is 4 to 5 years.

[CollegeRepublican]

Really, the only long term solution to our dependency on foreign sources of energy is to develop non-fossil fuel sources. As dirty as the phrase "alternative energy" is to many conservatives, it's a basic national security issue. We *have* to pull away from this dependency on nations that don't like us, and while ANWR would help, it's not a solution in itself by any means.

Bingo. You are exactly right.

[RightWhale]

Anyway, go ahead and develop ANWR. I don't see any problem with doing that except Alaska won't get as sweet a deal as they did with Prudhoe Bay.

[Eva]

I heard part of Rush's show (I forget who was doing the show) and the guy was talking about how the Bush administration has ignored the problem in Venezuela. Well, I would just like to remind everyone that the Democrats held up the Bush nomination of the undersecretary of state in charge of Latin American affairs over the demand to lift sanctions on Castro's Cuba until after the Chavez problem had escalated out control.

[RedMonqey]

Let's see:

Kerry doesn't support drilling in ANWAR but the locals in Alaska do

Kerry supports Alteranative Power (wind mills) but the locals in Massachuecttes DONT!

Yep, just what one expects in a liberal energy policy.

[GailA]

drilling the ANWR

[CollegeRepublican]

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[GailA]

that BLACK STUFF is HURTING US hanoi john