Kerry Author: Stolen FBI Files Were 'Very Explosive'

Newsmax.com ^ | March 30, 2004 | Carl Limbacher

[Jerr]

FBI files documenting Sen. John Kerry's anti-war activities that were reported stolen over the weekend could have damaged the likely Democratic nominee's presidential bid, the San Francisco author who obtained the records said Monday.

Asked about the missing files, Vietnam War historian Gerald Nicosia told CNN: "This stuff is very explosive. It's an enormous amount of information."

"The police say it was a neat and professional burglary," he explained, noting that 3,000 to 4,000 pages were missing out of a total of 20,000 pages. Burglars ignored other valuables in the house, raising questions about whether the break-in had anything to do with political damage control on behalf of the Kerry campaign.

A Kerry spokesman had no comment on the apparent theft when asked by the New York Sun over the weekend. But Nicosia said he suspects political foul play, telling the Los Angeles Times for Tuesday's edition that he is a product of the Watergate era who understands the allure of political sabotage.

While researching his book "Home to War," Nicosia obtained Kerry's FBI files in 1999. The records have already proven problematic for the Kerry campaign, forcing the candidate to reverse earlier denials that he attended a November 1971 meeting of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War where a plot to assassinate pro-war U.S. senators was discussed.

Nicosia told the Sun that the intruders likely wanted more than the three file boxes that were removed, since other boxes appear to have been rifled. He speculated that the file thieves were interrupted, perhaps scared off by a neighbor's barking dog.

Since the break-in he has trouble sleeping, he told the Times, adding, "My kids were really spooked by the burglary."

[Jerr]

Suuuuurprise! Suuuuurprise!

[sonsofliberty2000]

Any way to get those files again from the FBI?

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Patriot Paradox

[onyx]

Now who would want to steal the files?
And for what reason?

[soozla]

Dear Gerald,

Hi! I heard you are looking for some FBI files. I've heard there is a woman in Washington, DC who might be able to help you. She is very skilled at obtaining FBI files on just about anyone......in fact I think she has about 900, or so........

[afz400]

"Kerry Author: Stolen FBI Files Were 'Very Explosive'"
Read that to be "John, I've hid the files real good and faked the burglary. I know this sounds like blackmail, but maybe you could take care of me if you become President, (hint, hint)."

[speedy]

It would seem to me that there have to be multiple copies of those files. How difficult is it to get new ones, especially if you can define what is missing?

[Riley]

Any way to get those files again from the FBI?

They were (and are) available under the Freedom of Information Act. Nothing secret about them.

It was either Kerry people, or Nicosia himself, manufacturing controversy.

[BroncosFan]

Despite the fact I don't love the source, this is a legit story. WHY THE HECK ISN'T IT BIGGER NEWS?!??!?!

[Jerr]

I kept my copies next to my billing records!!!!!!!!

[Paloma_55]

Hmmmmmm.....

Seems like the FBI knows which files they provided under the FFOIA... and now that a crime has been committed, the original files should be subpoenaed in order to provide evidence for a criminal investigation....

After all, a DA would need to know exactly what was stolen in order to evaluate motive.

Seems to me, the FBI should be making this public information now. It is no longer a 30 year old FFOIA issue, its a brand new criminal issue.

Where is the media on this? Why are they not asking for a copy of the FFOIA files?

[Azzurri]

It was either Kerry people, or Nicosia himself, manufacturing controversy.

As of now, I'm betting on the latter.

[Vob]

The party has begun. Perhaps we are watching a replay of sorts. I would imagine Kerry is worried about HRC at this moment.

[sonsofliberty2000]

DO I really need to answer that question? It would kill the agenda of CNNMSNBCABCNBCCBS as well as the DNC. Alphabet Soup Agenda!

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Patriot Paradox

[marway]

I believe I read an earlier article which indicated that Nicosia, or someone for him, obtained them through the Freedom of Information Act. I may be mistaken on this... memory's not what it used to be. Check the LA Times website. I think I read it there sometime last week.

[afz400]

"The police say it was a neat and professional burglary."
Why is only the local police involved? - the FBI should be there because copies of THEIR files were stolen. The FBI must have a list of every file that they gave Nicosia so it should be easy to compare the remaining ones with the master list, determine what was stolen, and make those files public.

[InvisibleChurch]

so just how did he get fbi files? why are they being given to a someone writing a book? what's wrong with this picture?

[Riley]

You and I, both.

[uncle fenders]

Well I think it goes without saying that the dems want any info on kerry out of circulation... But I wonder if this might be more of a strategy of placing them in a position to point fingers at ANY new facts that come out? They will proclaim , that any info must have been stolen by a republican operative...that way they get to play their Nixon
was the most evil person on the planet game again...And of course the main stream press will be shocked at the unprecedented level of corruption that has occurred..hearings, blah, blah ,blah

I was just a kid when the whole Nixon thing went down ...but from what I have read and heard since then makes me think Nixon was an Angel compared to the traitor twins.

[sharktrager]

Already Posted

[Vob]

HRC spanks JFK but blames RNC

[MHGinTN]

What was the name of that clinton goon again, the one who was always truning up around women from sinkWilly's past when hatellary needed to silence them? Started with a 'P', didn't it?

[Contra]

Maybe they'll end up on eBay.

[MHGinTN]

Your memory is correct.

[cpdiii]

When I requested information on some drug studies submitted to the FDA I received the information via the Freedom of Information Act. If I remember correctly, they had the information to me in about 2 to 3 weeks. Can someone inform me of what is obtainable under the Freedom of Information Act in relationship to FBI Files. I thought they could only be released if the individual of interest okay's the release. Something is very wrong with this whole story.

[tracer]

"Seems like the FBI knows which files they provided under the FFOIA... and now that a crime has been committed, the original files should be subpoenaed in order to provide evidence for a criminal investigation...."

Too bad that we don't have Republicans as the Attorney General and as Director of the FBI. But wait!! We do!! Whatever was I thinking?

Surely the FBI didn't give the author the only existing copy of the file in question.

I just love it when a psy-op comes together......

[tracer]

"Why is only the local police involved? - the FBI should be there because copies of THEIR files were stolen."

Simply because that, once copies of the files were turned over to the author, they ceased to be "their" files....

[onyx]

Why is only the local police involved? - the FBI should be there because copies of THEIR files were stolen. The FBI must have a list of every file that they gave Nicosia so it should be easy to compare the remaining ones with the master list, determine what was stolen, and make those files public.



GOOD thinking.

[tracer]

Pelicano (now wearing a number on faded denims), but, actually, you mean Lenzer.........

[Torie]

This stuff is very explosive

And here you had led me to believe that Nicosia had not read the stolen files. How can I trust you ever again? :) This guy seems more torn than the city that bears his name.

[tracer]

The FBI has a very big backlog of FOIA requests and several layers of review of requests, retrieval, and release. And much of what they do end up releasing is redacted at their discretion. National security, you know.....

[Torie]

Sorry Jerr, the above post was not meant for you. I hate when that happens.

This stuff is very explosive

And here you had led me to believe that Nicosia had not read the stolen files. How can I trust you ever again? :) This guy seems more torn than the city that bears his name.

[mass55th]

"t would seem to me that there have to be multiple copies of those files. How difficult is it to get new ones, especially if you can define what is missing?"

He can probably get more copies, but they'll charge him again for them I bet. That's alot of copies to make.

[Jerr]

See, from yesterday:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1109046/posts

[tracer]

Not to worry. The files in question likely will turn up, say, this summer or in October at the latest, if'n ya git my drift......

[Whispering Smith]

I think you have nailed it.

[GretchenEE]

Any way to get those files again from the FBI?

You are the first person I've seen put the essential question to the problem. I've been wondering the same thing because obviously the files released to the writer were copies.

[MHGinTN]

Thanks, yes, Pelicano. Terry Lenzner isn't capable of doing the deed himself, but he has issued orders to footsoldiers in clinton's goonery so he would be a natural suspect, if hatellary releases the material in time for the dnc convention and her 'drafting' for the election.

[speedy]

That could well be so. Well, then, we know the Mainstream Media only wants to get a big story, no matter where it leads, without fear or favor. Maybe they would be interested in investing. (Hah!)

[Joe Bfstplk]

...3,000 to 4,000 pages were missing out of a total of 20,000 pages.

To excise 3000 pages from 20,000 suggests a familiarity with the material. Hello, Hillary...

[Jerr]

Yes, he is a private operative. I think he was just found guilty and given a jail sentenance. I think he was from California. I don't know if he squealed about Hillary or not.

[ladyinred]

I assume since you posted you have read that he obtained them through the FOIA which is perfectly legit.

[InvisibleChurch]

well, that takes care of that then ... btw, how does one decide what fits under the foia anyway?

[sonsofliberty2000]

Well then let's go get them! Where do we call? We'll make copies at Kinko and dare them to steal them all.

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Patriot Paradox

[GretchenEE]

Some trustworthy (read: passionately conservative) soul needs to file a FoI Act request and get 'em.

[archy]

Hi! I heard you are looking for some FBI files. I've heard there is a woman in Washington, DC who might be able to help you. She is very skilled at obtaining FBI files on just about anyone......in fact I think she has about 900, or so........

You're trying to be funny, maybe trying a little to hard. But since the FBI files obtained by Hillary included several involving investigations into prominent Democrats as well as Republicans [including the details of FBI investigation number IP-7 1690, the investigation into the murder of US senator Birch Bayh's mistress and the appointment of an FBI suspect in the murder to a cabinet-level position by Governor Evan Bayh, Birch's son, who now holds his father's former senate seat] you just might be correct.

Indeed, if the material includes information from that VVAW *Operation Pheonix* plan, it could also inclede information from Director Hoover's *personal and confidential* files on political figures that the FBI director felt he needed some influence over, the Kennedy brothers in particular.

Speaking of which, what ever came of the reported plan to exhume Hoover's body for the post-mortem medical investigation into Hoover's death to which he was not subjected to at the time he suddenly *passed away.* Qui bono?

[archy]

Some trustworthy (read: passionately conservative) soul needs to file a FoI Act request and get 'em.

There've been FOIA requests to the Justice Department for information into the FBI investigation of fraud of the Farmer's Home Administration, proceeds of which misappropriated moneys were plowed into Democratic Party political campaigns in the St Louis and downstate Illinois area since 1988.

If the Justice Department stonewalls press inquiries into Kerry and the VVAW as effectively, it'll be 2020 before there's even a chance that that public information is released.

[ntnychik]

Kerry's brother Cameron has experience with break-ins at election time.

Check post #63 of this thread for links to "Kerry's Watergate" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1108039/posts

[KingNo155]

What did Kerry know and when did He know It? Time to turn all the Nixon ?'s on Kerry! Touche'

[dalebert]

I saw this guy on the morning news and he said it must have been Republicans. I think he just wants to get his few seconds of fame. Kerry has not released his military records to anyone or they would be out by now.

[Bernard Marx]

Some trustworthy (read: passionately conservative) soul needs to file a FoI Act request and get 'em.

Problem is, it took him 11 years to get them (I read somewhere). I agree with the poster who said this "burglary" is to immunize Kerry from any release by Bush of new FBI info. If anything contained in the files is released they'll blame the burglary on the Bushies or claim that "privileged" FBI data was illegally released.