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Kerry's disastrous MTV performance
http://www.mtv.com/chooseorlose/features/john_kerry_033004/ ^

Posted on 04/01/2004 1:35:20 AM PST by MNJohnnie

[Tape plays.] Senator Kerry, in the clearest terms, what would be the principal difference between the foreign policy of your administration and that of the Bush administration?

Kerry: Brian, the principle difference will be almost everything. This administration has been arrogant. I think they have been reckless. They have been overly ideological. They have pushed our allies away. I will bring our allies back to us. I will respect the international community — not that we're tying ourselves to it in a way that doesn't allow us to make decisions and protect our own security. But it's important to try and build real coalitions. It's important to bring people to our side. Even the powerful United States of America needs friends and allies on this planet. And I intend to pursue a foreign policy that faces up to realities. For instance, North Korea, George Bush didn't even negotiate, didn't even begin the process for two years. I would never not open the process of real dialogue to see what the possibilities are. He turned his back on global warming, walked away from a treaty that 160 nations worked 10 years on. We should never have just declared it dead. We should've tried to fix it. We haven't done what we needed to do for AIDS globally. The president talks about it, but we still haven't passed the kind of comprehensive program that would help the United States lead on one of the great crises of our time. We haven't done what we need to do for loose nuclear material in Russia, where we ought to be gaining the security of that material so it can't fall into the hands of terrorists. I mean, there are countless numbers of things that we could be doing to enhance the world's view of us and to minimize the kind of anger and ... almost recruitment that has taken place in terrorist organizations as a result of the way the administration has behaved.

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I cannot belive how politically dense this guy is.

things that we could be doing to enhance the world's view of us and to minimize the kind of anger and ... almost recruitment that has taken place in terrorist organizations as a result of the way the administration has behaved.

WHAT? How stupid is this guy? Bush is making the terrorists mad at US. SENATOR Do you remember 9-11-01?????? How much more angry can we make them??????

1 posted on 04/01/2004 1:35:20 AM PST by MNJohnnie
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To: MNJohnnie
Well it sounds like the sort of stuff the MTV crowd will eat right up. I am surprised they did not have him play the guitar.
2 posted on 04/01/2004 1:42:15 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: MNJohnnie
Yes thats all true but, he is telling them just what they want to hear. Do you want to hear gas is too high or the reasons that it is.
3 posted on 04/01/2004 1:43:21 AM PST by Domangart
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To: MNJohnnie
I saw this...it wasn't a disaster...It was actually very close to an infomercial for Kerry..30 minutes of free advertising and hype...no hard questions...They actually played soft 'patriotic' music in the background when he was talking about his agenda...very subtle stuff. I dislike everything Kerry stands for, but it is obvious that this special will make him look good in the eyes of younger (and naive) voters.
4 posted on 04/01/2004 1:53:19 AM PST by Capitalism2003 (Got principles? http://www.Libertarianism.com http://www.LP.org)
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To: MNJohnnie
John F. Seinfeld seems to blame America for 9/11! What a pompous windbag!
5 posted on 04/01/2004 2:01:07 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MNJohnnie
He sure uses a lot of words to say absolutely nothing.
6 posted on 04/01/2004 2:09:44 AM PST by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: MNJohnnie
He turned his back on global warming, walked away from a treaty that 160 nations worked 10 years on. We should never have just declared it dead. We should've tried to fix it. We haven't done what we needed to do for AIDS globally. The president talks about it, but we still haven't passed the kind of comprehensive program that would help the United States lead on one of the great crises of our time.

The KYOTO TREATY?!? Not even the filthy French would touch it. Kerry is beyond delusional.

Also, Bush made HUGE funding provisions for both African nations and AIDs reseach. He simply tied provisions to that funding to ensure the money was used properly. I assume Kerry simply wants to hand a blank check over to third world dictators?

What can I say? The man has a pronounced bovine intellect.

7 posted on 04/01/2004 2:20:05 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: MNJohnnie
Can this guy ever answer a question with fewer than 50 words??

I just love this, all these "I am smarter than you, so I give endless words to answer your questions" attitude from this guy. I just wonder when the American people really get to know him later this year, how many of them will remember anything from him other than a guy is willing to say anything on everything and a guy gives long muddle answers.

Compare to Bush, Kerry lacks clarity and clear vision in dealing with these questions.

Bush likes to say - "Dead or alive", "I hear you"

vs

Kerry's loooooooooong answers, drifting, and mumbbling...

you be the judge..lol
8 posted on 04/01/2004 2:45:31 AM PST by FRgal4u
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To: MNJohnnie
Yago: So what have been some of the surreal little epiphanies that have hit you?

Vanessa Kerry: I think that standing onstage on January 19th, and my father had just defied all expectations and won Iowa, was by far the most surreal moment. My sister and I were standing up there looking at each other, and I turn, I said, "This is our father." And she goes, "Holy sh--."


Holy Shazaam! Is that what she said?
9 posted on 04/01/2004 3:05:00 AM PST by Maurice Tift
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To: Caipirabob
Kerry voted AGAINST Kyoto. Who is he to complain?
10 posted on 04/01/2004 3:06:10 AM PST by John Thornton
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To: Admin Moderator
this article has an altered title
11 posted on 04/01/2004 3:09:15 AM PST by DefCon
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To: MNJohnnie
Gobbledygook comes out of Kerry's mouth as answers to question.

Every Kerry response boils down to this:

"I have a plan [period, no details, no substance, no further information.] The Bush administration is bad yada yada yada yada."

That's it. If you listen to every Kerry response, it boils down to the quote above.

Kerry has no substance, rather he is empty-suit rhetoric.
12 posted on 04/01/2004 3:31:22 AM PST by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Kerry: I served in Vietnam, you know. It was there that I developed my appreciation for hip-hop culture and rap music (in fact, I may have been the first rap artist (laughs)). You see, there I was reading aloud my book of French poetry to the troops, when some of the young black soldiers gathered round and started to stomp and clap their hands - you know, put a beat behind the words. Yo! Before long me and my homeboys had quite the show going on. Later that night when we were done, I wrote a personal letter to Jane Fonda, telling her how I supported her efforts. Life was good then. MTV ROCKS!
13 posted on 04/01/2004 3:36:37 AM PST by searchandrecovery (Tagline Error 404 - please notify your System Administrator.)
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To: MNJohnnie
"How stupid is this guy?" Very stupid,and worse,arrogant. A very bad combination.
14 posted on 04/01/2004 3:47:19 AM PST by Shane
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To: Capitalism2003
It was actually very close to an infomercial for Kerry.....

Wasn't that nice of Viacom?

15 posted on 04/01/2004 3:48:57 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: CasearianDaoist
I am surprised they did not have him play the guitar

He would have, but he had a boo-boo in his shoulder.

;-)

16 posted on 04/01/2004 4:15:40 AM PST by mombonn (Viva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: All
John Flip-flop's campaign: I wouldn't do anything Bush is doing, but if I did I would do it smarter, quicker, faster and cheaper because I am superior.
17 posted on 04/01/2004 4:17:01 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye ((Kerry is a flake))
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To: MNJohnnie
Ketchup or Mustard?
18 posted on 04/01/2004 4:19:25 AM PST by mabelkitty (A tuning, a Vote in the topic package to the starting US presidency election fight)
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To: MNJohnnie

This is an April Fool's joke, right?
19 posted on 04/01/2004 4:19:30 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: texasflower
He sure uses a lot of words to say absolutely nothing.

Painful, isn't it?

20 posted on 04/01/2004 4:19:43 AM PST by Samwise (I am going to need to be sedated before this election is over.)
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To: MNJohnnie; StriperSniper; Mo1; Peach; Howlin; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
Q: Senator Kerry, in the clearest terms, what would be the principal difference between the foreign policy of your administration and that of the Bush administration?

A: Kerry: Brian, the principle difference will be almost everything.


I'll stop there, but there is so much ammo here it's unreal.

I was listening to Hue Huewtt last night and some where in this Kerry says he's for KEOYTO(sp)

21 posted on 04/01/2004 4:21:28 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: CasearianDaoist; Domangart
I wouldn't worry too much. Most college kids are in Cancun doing things to humiliate and horrify their parents. I have two kids, ages 18 and 19 who are staunchly pro-Bush and say they know a lot of their friends are as well. It's the friends parents who need to be worked on!

My son brought home a new girl the other day. He was beaming. Not because she was cute (she's cute as a button), not because she's smart (she's a HS senior taking c++ classes at an engineering college), but because he could show me the "Luvya Dubya" button on her purse!

The boy knows what his momma likes!

22 posted on 04/01/2004 4:23:49 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Charter member Broken Glass Republicans (2000))
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To: OXENinFLA; cyborg
That was about the only part(other than the nonstop Vietnam footage) I remember from the few minutes I saw.

I have a two word description for it all: Vapid Verbiage.

23 posted on 04/01/2004 4:29:25 AM PST by StriperSniper (Ernest Strada Fanclub)
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To: Trust but Verify
I hear this more and more. I live in Brooklyn and a friend of mine has a daughter that just went off to and ivy leage. SHe is giving her professors the dickens. It is really funny - the never knew what hit them.
24 posted on 04/01/2004 4:30:23 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: MNJohnnie
Property Owners Only bump
25 posted on 04/01/2004 4:34:05 AM PST by BSunday
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To: Trust but Verify
I wouldn't worry too much. Most college kids are in Cancun doing things to humiliate and horrify their parents. I have two kids, ages 18 and 19 who are staunchly pro-Bush and say they know a lot of their friends are as well. It's the friends parents who need to be worked on!

I'm seeing the same thing. Part of this dynamic is that kids instinctively are rebellious at this age, and their teachers are monolithic in their liberal leanings.

26 posted on 04/01/2004 4:40:09 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: MNJohnnie
Kerry was fragged. His third PH was a "go home or die" note from his crew.
27 posted on 04/01/2004 4:47:36 AM PST by wtc911 (Doesn't matter if your head is in the sand or up your a**, the view is the same.)
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To: MNJohnnie
"For instance, North Korea, George Bush didn't even negotiate, didn't even begin the process for two years. I would never not open the process of real dialog to see what the possibilities are...."

This guy is so dense it's beyond comprehension. Bush never intended to negotiate one-on-one with this terrorist state, it would have served no purpose. Eventually, NK decided to sit down with not only the US, but China, Japan, and SK. With all them at the table it would be almost impossible for NK to blackmail the US as it did when Clinton was the POTUS.

I'm afraid Kerry may be more clueless than Jimmy Carter when it comes to foreign affairs. This guy WILL get a lot of innocent civilians killed if he is elected.

He really does scare me. He is removed from any core convictions, has no morality to speak of, and is inept with understanding the real world we live in. He is dangerous.
28 posted on 04/01/2004 4:50:47 AM PST by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: MNJohnnie
...For instance, North Korea, George Bush didn't even negotiate...

"Negotiating" is only effective when both sides are acting in good faith with the intent of keeping their end of the bargain. Recent history tells us this isn't the case with North Korea, and the outcome proved dangerous for the world and region. The same is true of Arafat and his terrorist thugs.

Kerry is naive, foolish, or both.

29 posted on 04/01/2004 5:11:32 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: FRgal4u
**I just love this, all these "I am smarter than you, so I give endless words to answer your questions" attitude from this guy.**

Doesn't he remind you of Gore in 2000? Men who grew up in penthouses in DC and living in rich women's houses cannot even begin to "get" America.

30 posted on 04/01/2004 5:38:53 AM PST by daybreakcoming ("you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.")
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To: MNJohnnie
He turned his back on global warming, walked away from a treaty that 160 nations worked 10 years on.

In my opinion, that took tremendous courage and leadership.

Should we sign on to bad treaties based on flawed data, designed with the dubious underlying goal of global wealth redistribution just because we've been steamrolled into it for 10 years by 160 nations?

Signing Kyoto would be a bad precedent. It would send the message that the U.S. will capitulate to faulty global social engineering treaties if only it can be made to appear that ratifying the treaty is inevitable.

We didn't sign it. End of story. Nothing's a done deal until you sign on the dotted line. We didn't. Get over it.

31 posted on 04/01/2004 5:41:03 AM PST by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: MNJohnnie

32 posted on 04/01/2004 5:53:05 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: wtc911
Do you have any details on that?
33 posted on 04/01/2004 5:53:55 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: wtc911
"Kerry was fragged. His third PH was a "go home or die" note from his crew."

Source please?

34 posted on 04/01/2004 5:55:04 AM PST by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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To: CasearianDaoist
It might backfire. The people who turn on MTV might be pissed that they weren't getting to see some 13 year old convince her parents to pay for her boob job, and instead there was just this old wrinkly whitey. The only ones from that crowd that are going to vote anyway are the Marxists who can't be swayed, so the effect will be minimal.
35 posted on 04/01/2004 5:58:17 AM PST by Flightdeck (Death is only a horizon)
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To: FRgal4u
Re: I just love this, all these "I am smarter than you, so I give endless words to answer your questions"

The problem with our liberal friends is not that they know so much, but that they know so much that isn't so. -- Ronald Reagan

36 posted on 04/01/2004 6:01:21 AM PST by ChadGore (Mach 7 !)
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To: Samwise
"I would never not open the process of real dialogue to see what the possibilities are."

I don't even know what that sentence means IN context!

37 posted on 04/01/2004 6:01:55 AM PST by SpinyNorman
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To: MNJohnnie
I know how to engage Kerry supporters -- and its a serious concern. John Kerry will no doubt SUPPORT the International Criminal Court and sign the United States to it. John Kerry in 1971 ADMITTED to committing war atrocities against the Vietnamese. What is to stop them from bringing Kerry to trial for those crimes? What can be better for them than a taped confession "under oath"? It would be disasterous for the United States and while this tape is buried right now it would be played non-stop then.
38 posted on 04/01/2004 6:05:58 AM PST by Naspino (HTTP://NASPINO.COM)
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To: TomGuy
Plans and strategies. That's Kerry.
39 posted on 04/01/2004 6:06:14 AM PST by ShandaLear (Osama always liked Kerry best.)
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To: FRgal4u
I just wonder when the American people really get to know him later this year, how many of them will remember anything from him other than a guy is willing to say anything on everything and a guy gives long muddle answers.

It is OUR job to point this out NOW, to each of our friends and neighbors and family members. This will help define him, and as the campaign drags on, everyone will notice it and pay attention to that seminal difference between President Bush and the pretender.

40 posted on 04/01/2004 7:25:53 AM PST by AFPhys (My Passion review: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1089021/posts?page=13#13)
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To: Caipirabob
I would venture a guess that Kerry voted against the Kyoto treaty since the senate voted 98-0 to prevent WJC from signing on to it.
41 posted on 04/01/2004 7:28:21 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: MNJohnnie
MTV viewers don't vote and couldn't find their polling place if they wanted to.
42 posted on 04/01/2004 7:29:04 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: John Thornton; tdadams; Caipirabob
Kerry's position on Kyoto sounds familiar:

"I voted against the Kyoto Treaty but I actually was for it."

or is it more like, "I really like it, but I couldn't tell anybody that because then they would find me out"

or is it more like, "If I had voted for Kyoto everyone in the country would have been able to realize I don't really care about this country's economy."

This simple flip-flop on Kyoto can get a major amount of mileage in the Bush ads. Russia, and even Canada, recognize that Kyoto will do little to deter global warming and implementation would give their economies' growth rate a huge hit. I suspect that there is already a reasonably reliable figure for the US growth hit if we were to implement Kyoto... and for about a 0.1C decrease in temp by 2050, as I understand the best estimates.

This anti-growth and anti-economy move by Kerry could have a tremendous impact this election, not to say the additional hit to the US security and sovreignty it would imply.
43 posted on 04/01/2004 7:38:02 AM PST by AFPhys (My Passion review: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1089021/posts?page=13#13)
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To: Naspino
Hmm... very interesting conjecture ...
44 posted on 04/01/2004 7:39:06 AM PST by AFPhys (My Passion review: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1089021/posts?page=13#13)
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To: CasearianDaoist
Nah... the MTV crowd doesn't have the attention span to listen to a whole Kerry sentence.
45 posted on 04/01/2004 7:43:24 AM PST by thoughtomator (Voting Bush because there is no reasonable alternative)
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To: MNJohnnie
Kerry's disastrous MTV performance

I don't get this title. What was so "disastrous" about it? Seemed very effective considering the audience. They also pumped up his killing of the Vietcong soldier for the first time.

46 posted on 04/01/2004 7:49:11 AM PST by montag813
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To: wtc911
Don't know about that... but in no telling of the "How I killed the VC" story do we hear that any of his crew thought enough of hime to leave the boat and cover his 6. Something is just smelly about the whole thing...
47 posted on 04/01/2004 7:51:27 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: MNJohnnie
I would never not open the process of real dialogue to see what the possibilities are.

"Never not!??"

In Kerry, we have another Jimmy Carter who would negotiate anything, overlook anything, do anything so he can say that he's showing restraint, that he's for peace, that he's responsible and rational.

Give me a "cowboy" every time. That's what much of the world calls a US President they consider unpredictable and perhaps a bit irritable. Reagan was a "cowboy" and was often portrayed as such in the political cartoons. So is Bush. We're a lot safer with such leaders.

48 posted on 04/01/2004 8:01:47 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Maurice Tift
Apple doesn't fall very far from the tree where the Kerry Ego is concerned.
Too bad - all she has is cash to back it up and little else.
49 posted on 04/01/2004 8:14:21 AM PST by mabelkitty (A tuning, a Vote in the topic package to the starting US presidency election fight)
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To: montag813
Because it was MTV.
It did little but stoke the ridicule for Clinton, and Kerry obviously didn't recognize what a joke it is.
Thankfully, Bush does.
50 posted on 04/01/2004 8:15:51 AM PST by mabelkitty (A tuning, a Vote in the topic package to the starting US presidency election fight)
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