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Flint Students Accuse Lesbians of Harassment
The Flint Journal ^ | 3/31/04 | Matt Bach

Posted on 04/01/2004 9:54:50 AM PST by marshmallow

Flint -- School officials are taking action over allegations that lesbian students at Central High School and other buildings are harassing other girls.

There appear to be more complaints and rumors this year regarding lesbians fighting and sexually harassing students, said Larry Watkins, director of the office of school safety.

The school doesn't track incidents by sexual orientation, so Watkins said he doesn't know for sure if the problems are increasing. But suspensions for fighting and sexual harassment have included at least one fight between two girls arguing about a relationship, he said.

In response to concerns, the district reviewed sexual harassment policies with student leaders and school officials.

A student workshop on female aggression is slated for May, he said, and officials plan to bring in an expert next fall to talk with students about sexual harassment and same-sex harassment.

"This issue has been building up for the past three or four years," Watkins said. "It appears to be surfacing more."

But rumors that a lesbian gang is trying to entice straight girls at Central are untrue, he said. School officials haven't been able to substantiate allegations that sexual acts are going on in girls' restrooms.

"We do not have a gang of lesbians at Central High School," Watkins said. "We have may have some individuals whose sexual orientation may be questionable. But, to our knowledge, we have no known lesbian gangs at Central."

Watkins said some students have said they feel unsafe and avoid the restrooms at school because of the rumors.

Not all Central students agree.

"There are a lot of lesbian girls at Central," said senior Candice Fowlkes-Hawk. "But I've never seen any walk up and make obscene comments. I've never seen them say anything rude. They're not little hoodlums, they're just lesbians. I had a girl approach me once, and I just said I was not interested."

While the rumors focus on Central, there also have been complaints at Flint's other high schools and some of the middle schools, Watkins said. Schools are directing security officers to pay closer attention to restrooms.

"It's not like everyone is afraid to go to the bathroom," said Northern senior Chantal Cotton. "If I got to go, I go regardless if there is a gay group in there. I just politely ask them to move aside. I look at them as any other person."

The issue seems to be gaining steam in the community. The Rev. Marvin Jennings, pastor of Grace Emmanuel Baptist Church in Flint, discussed it during his sermon on Sunday, and hairstylist Mezon Green said it's a common topic among her customers.

"I'm concerned about it because I don't know why the parents aren't stepping in," said Green, who has a ninth-grade son at Central. "I understand to each his own, but if that's your cup of tea, then you drink it. You don't offer it around."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: denialaintariver; flint; homosexualagenda; indoctrination; itsjustsex; lesbianrisks; lesbians; michigan; publicschools; publicsex; putsomeiceonit; samesexharassment; sex; sexinbathrooms; sexualdeviants; sexualharassment; sodomites; taxdollarsatwork

1 posted on 04/01/2004 9:54:55 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
They should be charged as adults on felony charges. This would give them a permanent criminal record.
2 posted on 04/01/2004 9:59:44 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: marshmallow
Charge them with a "hate crime".
3 posted on 04/01/2004 9:59:56 AM PST by CSM (Vote Kerry! Boil the Frog! Speed up the 2nd Revolution! (Be like Spain! At least they're honest))
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To: marshmallow
I have spent a great deal of time in Flint, Michigan.

My advice to all Freepers is to arrange your lives so that you never have to do so.

4 posted on 04/01/2004 10:00:12 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: NativeNewYorker
I have to and I couldn't agree more. Saginaw is working its way to becoming another Flint.
5 posted on 04/01/2004 10:07:33 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: NativeNewYorker; marshmallow
I'm concerned about it because I don't know why the parents aren't stepping in," said Green

I have spent a great deal of time in Flint, Michigan.

My advice to all Freepers is to arrange your lives so that you never have to do so.

Given your first hand knowledge, would you say the reason parents aren't coming forward is that most of them don't have fathers in the home or their parents do drugs?

6 posted on 04/01/2004 10:07:50 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: marshmallow
Is this a script for a porno movie? Lesbian chicks in High School.
7 posted on 04/01/2004 10:08:03 AM PST by wildearp
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To: marshmallow
"School officials are taking action over allegations that lesbian students at Central High School and other buildings are harassing other girls."

How much you want to bet that the action is taken against the victims.
8 posted on 04/01/2004 10:08:41 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: marshmallow
Pathetic.
9 posted on 04/01/2004 10:10:12 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: wildearp; marshmallow
Is this a script for a porno movie? Lesbian chicks in High School.

Probably a movie shown on HBO or Showtime at 2:30 in the morning.

10 posted on 04/01/2004 10:10:12 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
That is highly likely. Downtown Flint is a low-density South Bronx without the charm.
11 posted on 04/01/2004 10:10:49 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: NativeNewYorker
They sound like predatory animals! Like rapid packs of dogs roaming through the woods looking for their next prey! But I'm sure they are all finding time to learn their school lessons in such a wonderful environment.
12 posted on 04/01/2004 10:11:17 AM PST by Esther Ruth (George W. Bush - My Kids Newest Bestest Super Hero of ALL TIME)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Make that 2:30 in the afternoon- an after school special....
13 posted on 04/01/2004 10:12:21 AM PST by luckymom
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To: wildearp
Is this a script for a porno movie? Lesbian chicks in High School.

I wish my high school had been this much fun. Not enough lesbianism went on, if you ask me.

14 posted on 04/01/2004 10:12:39 AM PST by Modernman (Chthulhu for President! Why Vote for the Lesser Evil?)
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To: marshmallow
Homosexual Jihadettes?
15 posted on 04/01/2004 10:13:07 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance
Flint Central High = Hell-on-Earth
16 posted on 04/01/2004 10:15:29 AM PST by GungaLaGunga
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To: marshmallow
Check out the girl's PE teachers at that school.
17 posted on 04/01/2004 10:15:50 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: marshmallow
What a joke. Ooooo here come the big, bad Lesbians. LoL.
18 posted on 04/01/2004 10:19:04 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: marshmallow
if that's your cup of tea, then you drink it. You don't offer it around

Nicely stated.

19 posted on 04/01/2004 10:21:18 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: marshmallow
It's George Bush's fault that they don't teach fisting to the frosh
20 posted on 04/01/2004 10:21:21 AM PST by Republicus2001
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To: Paleo Conservative; wildearp; marshmallow
Is this a script for a porno movie? Lesbian chicks in High School.

Probably a movie shown on HBO or Showtime at 2:30 in the morning.

Air America, the liberal radio network's "The O'Franken Factor," would probably like to have them as guests.

21 posted on 04/01/2004 10:22:38 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Give liberals a rope, and they will hang themselves with it.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
Air America, the liberal radio network's "The O'Franken Factor," would probably like to have them as guests.

Only if they couldn't get on Howard Stern's show.

22 posted on 04/01/2004 10:26:33 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Only if they couldn't get on Howard Stern's show.

I don't think howie will have much of a hsow any more. He cooked his own goose, so to speak. I wouldn't listen to him or 'el Franken Fraud for one minute.

23 posted on 04/01/2004 10:38:52 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Give liberals a rope, and they will hang themselves with it.)
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To: Esther Ruth
"We have may have some individuals whose sexual orientation may be questionable."

This in iself is a horrible, cruel, awful, mean, judgemental, bigoted, homophobic, anti-lesbian value judgement, meaning that a bazillion dollars had best be giving to somebody right now!

[/SARCASM]

24 posted on 04/01/2004 10:54:34 AM PST by 50sDad ( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Isn't Michael (Jabba the Hutt) Moore from Flint?? 'Nuff said!
25 posted on 04/01/2004 11:11:25 AM PST by Polyxene (Never hold discussions with the monkey when the organ grinder is in the room.- Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Polyxene
Indeed.
26 posted on 04/01/2004 11:14:11 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: marshmallow
I grew up in Flint. To paraphrase Mark Twain, "If you don't mend your ways you will die and go to Hell or Flint. Pray God that it is the former!"

Married a Flint Central grad also. Hmmm--
27 posted on 04/01/2004 11:17:56 AM PST by Dr. Faust
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To: marshmallow
This is a true story: 20 years ago, while a student at SUNY Albany, I ducked into a bar to avoid rain, not knowing it was a lesbian bar. Once in there I realized it was, but I didn't care. I went to the bar and ordered a drink and this really big, ugly girl started talking to me. I chatted back..it was just regular banter. Without any warning, her "girlfriend," an even bigger and uglier girl came over to me with a pool stick and started harrassing me and then about four or five other girls surrounded me and literally chased me out of the bar.
28 posted on 04/01/2004 11:28:53 AM PST by Hildy (A kiss is the unborn child knocking at the door.)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Maybe the city should consider changing the spelling to Flynt in "honor" of this man:


29 posted on 04/01/2004 2:26:13 PM PST by weegee (I'm anti-establishment. I oppose the liberal media elites.)
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To: marshmallow
I see that Flint Central High School is on Crapo street.
30 posted on 04/01/2004 2:37:41 PM PST by weegee (I'm anti-establishment. I oppose the liberal media elites.)
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To: looscnnn
Yeah, like that girl on another thread who was sexually harrassed continuously by a male student, and finally decked him. She was the one who got suspended, not him.

The more you read stories such as this one, the more you think Why should public schools exist anyway? They are more trouble than they are worth.

Idiot school officials banning pink because they want to be "proactive" even though they admit there are no pink-wearing gang members in their town; 18-year-old girl can't go to the prom because she was caught smoking off school grounds, even though she's legally old enough to smoke; girls being sexually assaulted in school and no one -- the school cop, the town cops, or the district attorney want to bother with it, and now this story.

Just shut 'em down, give the parents the money, and let them worry about educating their kids. Most of the parents will do right by their kids -- the parents that don't, well their kids wouldn't succeed in school either. Write them off.

31 posted on 04/01/2004 2:53:39 PM PST by ladylib
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To: weegee
I think he's suffered enough.
32 posted on 04/01/2004 3:04:57 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
What a joke. Ooooo here come the big, bad Lesbians. LoL.

Some lesbians are more manly than men. Some can even set you down, I bet.

33 posted on 04/01/2004 3:10:31 PM PST by Snowy (Microsoft: "You've got questions? We've got dancing paperclips.")
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To: Polyxene
Actually he's from Davison, a suburb of Flint. BIG difference.
34 posted on 04/01/2004 7:11:38 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Had to cool me down to take another round, now I'm back in the ring to takea-nother swing")
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To: Dr. Faust
I live by Hell.....Hell, Michigan is about 20 minutes from me.
35 posted on 04/01/2004 7:11:57 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Had to cool me down to take another round, now I'm back in the ring to takea-nother swing")
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To: NativeNewYorker
Downtown Flint is a low-density South Bronx without the charm.

I had to drive on Pierson Rd once for business once. I'll just say that I'm glad it was daytime.

36 posted on 04/01/2004 7:17:42 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Had to cool me down to take another round, now I'm back in the ring to takea-nother swing")
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To: ladylib
"Just shut 'em down, give the parents the money, and let them worry about educating their kids. Most of the parents will do right by their kids -- the parents that don't, well their kids wouldn't succeed in school either. Write them off."

What about "no child left behind"? Of course the kids with parenst that don't educated their kids well can take "the jobs that Americans don't want". Problem is that it would all be viewed as a racist action, the schools being shut down and the under-educated taking jobs from the "guest workers". Plus, don't expect the NEA to just roll over and let this happen.
37 posted on 04/02/2004 5:22:30 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: looscnnn
Make education a priviledge, not a right. Give parents choices so their children can escape from bad schools, bad kids, and bad administrators. Who cares if it's viewed as a "racist" action? A lot of blacks would like to get their kids out of crummy schools and if they could, the race card would be the last thing on their minds. NCLB can always be repealed.
38 posted on 04/02/2004 5:53:03 AM PST by ladylib
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To: scholar; BraveMan
"'We do not have a gang of lesbians at Central High School,' Watkins said."

While kneeling & praying real hard. :o)

I find it absolutely *amazing* not one brainstem "educator" could've followed the insanity of their policies concerning homosexuality they've permitted into our culture to its logical end.
And now what's worse, these very same brainstem/*educators* are bringing in another *expert* to straighten things out?
God help us.

"'We have may have some individuals whose sexual orientation may be questionable.'

*Questionable*!!
How dare you, Watkins.
You're the one who's "questionable," probably a christttttiaNNNNNN too!
~ehhhh?

Well Watkins, the Flint School District hates to have to do this to you but, it's *off* to sensativity training with you and your *family*, pal.
You undoubtably have passed your *disease* onto your wife * kids so we're going to "cure" the whole lot of ya right here & now.

Scholar?
What in the hell do ya suppose is going on in Flint -- of all places -- Michigan?

Air pollution?
Lousy water?
I sure in the hell don't know.

>>Tip!<< If Flint Michigan's experience is the harbinger of a national *trend*?
Waste not another minute & buy stock in Harley-Davidson.

...now. {g}

39 posted on 04/02/2004 6:18:14 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: Liberty Valance
Militant Lezbos
40 posted on 04/02/2004 6:20:00 AM PST by expatguy
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To: ladylib
I agree, I was just pointing out some things.
41 posted on 04/02/2004 6:39:34 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Snowy
While it doesn't take much I have no fear of that from high school girls. This article is a hysterical joke.
42 posted on 04/02/2004 1:13:46 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: marshmallow
The school doesn't track incidents by sexual orientation, so Watkins said he doesn't know for sure if the problems are increasing.

"We do not have a gang of lesbians at Central High School," Watkins said. "We have may have some individuals whose sexual orientation may be questionable. But, to our knowledge, we have no known lesbian gangs at Central."

And Watkins sees no contradiction in these statements.

43 posted on 04/02/2004 1:20:05 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Landru
Scholar? What in the hell do ya suppose is going on in Flint -- of all places -- Michigan?

It doesn't matter about the venue. The reality is that the PC morons are running the show because those of us who disagree are considered right wind nutcases.

The bottom line for me is that people should keep their agendas out of the schools and their work places. I don't give a Rat's Ass about someone's personal life-just keep it out of my face!!!!!

44 posted on 04/03/2004 7:49:09 AM PST by scholar
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To: NativeNewYorker
My married daughter lives in Flint and says it's the armpit of the entire state. This from a girl who has never lived out of the state of MI her entire life.

I was up there in Feb. for her wedding and I'd have to agree with you. Not even a nice place to visit let alone have to live there.

MKM

45 posted on 04/30/2004 4:31:04 AM PDT by mykdsmom (Only 22 more days to go until Paradise aboard the FR Caribbean cruise..WOO HOO!!!)
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