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Fifth grader charged after bus fight over snack cake [9 yr old beaten to unconsciousness]
AP ^ | April 2, 2004 | Staff writer

Posted on 04/02/2004 5:34:30 AM PST by TaxRelief

For discussion and education purposes only.

Greensboro, North Carolina-AP -- A North Carolina fifth-grader has been charged with assault for knocking out a boy in a school bus fight over a snack cake.

(snip) ...According to the principal, when the boy sitting next to him asked for a bite, Kevin said no and was smacked in the face with a stuffed Tweety Bird. Kevin hit back, but was slammed against a window and hit in the back.

Then he fell in the aisle and was stomped.

School officials say when the bus driver pulled the aggressor off him, Kevin was unconscious.

(Excerpt) Read more at whnt19.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: bullies; bullying; cakecrime; educationplan; littledebbie; movieviolence; nccrime; schoolbus; schoolviolence; schoolyard; socialdecay; tvviolence; videogames; zebracakes
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A delicious yellow cake with creme filling covered in white icing and trimmed with fudge stripes. Twin-wrapped 10 to a carton.


Public schools, again. This is just part of "developing social skills", isn't it?

1 posted on 04/02/2004 5:34:31 AM PST by TaxRelief
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2 posted on 04/02/2004 5:35:49 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Don't be a nuancy boy)
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To: TaxRelief
The basic instruction from both your momma, the school and the bus driver was to keep your snacks put away ~ NO EATING ON THE BUS.

This is one of the reasons for the rule, eh?!

3 posted on 04/02/2004 5:39:11 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: TaxRelief
But it was a Zebra cake. I grew up on those things ... mom gave me two bucks for lunch. A fifty cent zebra cake and a fifty cent chocolate milk every day meant a net $5.00 gain in pocket money by weeks end. Can't blame the kid. I'd kick butt for a zebra cake, too.
4 posted on 04/02/2004 5:41:54 AM PST by Gerasimov (This is a boring Tag Line.)
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To: TaxRelief
If some kid did that to my son I would go to his house and beat his father senseless.
5 posted on 04/02/2004 5:44:17 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: muawiyah
A North Carolina fifth-grader has been charged with assault for knocking out a boy in a school bus fight over a snack cake.

WOW. That must be some snake cake!

6 posted on 04/02/2004 5:45:06 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: TaxRelief
I hope the boy's family presses charges. It's not enough to let the school discipline the perp. He'll be back to school in a day.
7 posted on 04/02/2004 5:45:40 AM PST by petitfour
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To: T.Smith
What makes you think there's a father in that household?
8 posted on 04/02/2004 5:45:48 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Dollar a Day FReeper and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: TaxRelief
As a parent of a 12 year old who spent TWENTY DAYS in a hospital due to bullying and assault, I can even begin to describe how pervasive this is in the schools systems. If you got kids in ANY school, this IS happening! Check out the Youth Violence Project (of which I have no affiliation) and you'll have your eyes opened! Lobby your state officials to propose and PASS a bullying law that requires school officials to notify the parents as well as law enforcement. In our case, the school was aware of at least three prior incidents between my kid and the other kid(s) before the final assault. NOT ONCE did the school notify me that the incidents occurred..only until he required hosptialization did they fess up.

STOP THIS NOW!
9 posted on 04/02/2004 5:46:20 AM PST by Buffettbassman (Freedom isn't free- cash only! No checks or credit cards-Buffettbassman)
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To: TaxRelief
When stuffed Tweetie Birds are outlawed, only outlaws will have stuffed Tweetie Birds.
10 posted on 04/02/2004 5:47:08 AM PST by ahayes
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To: TaxRelief
School is hell. Prison for children who have committed the crime of being born.
11 posted on 04/02/2004 5:47:44 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: TaxRelief
smacked in the face with a stuffed Tweety Bird

I tot I taw a Zebra cake!

12 posted on 04/02/2004 5:48:56 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: TaxRelief
mmmmmmmmmmmm violence obtained zebra cakes . . .
13 posted on 04/02/2004 5:50:15 AM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Please don't ban me for this post.)
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To: Buffettbassman
As a parent of a 12 year old who spent TWENTY DAYS in a hospital due to bullying and assault, I can even begin to describe how pervasive this is in the schools systems. If you got kids in ANY school, this IS happening!

Of course it is, and everyone knows it. We all went through it. How could we not know? But it's much easier to pretend it's not happening.

Teachers pretend to teach, students pretend to learn, and parents pretend that the teachers are teaching and the students are learning. The system works perfectly.

School isn't about learning. It never has been. For parents, it's about free babysitting. For the elites, it's about molding society.

14 posted on 04/02/2004 5:51:08 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Buffettbassman
Buses are often an easy place for little thugs to do their thing--as are recess, PE, lunchtime, walking home from school.

Schools need to have plentiful security these days if they are going to function and survive. The advent of cheap electronic surveillance should prove helpful--put CAMERAS on those buses, because the driver can't drive and keep an eye on all those kids. Put cameras in the hallways, and in between buildings. Kick out the transgressors promptly.

I've thought that perhaps schools ought to get out of the transportation end of the schooling. Who says the school has to provide transport, anyway? It's just a big liability for the school system. Let 'em walk, or make Mom drive.

15 posted on 04/02/2004 5:51:14 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Buffettbassman
How horrible for your child!

When our son was in the third grade, there was a black kid who bullied him every day on the bus - just picky stuff. He was a big ole boy. Finally hubby had had enough and went to the kids home. He could hear the foot steps of the dad coming. HE was a huge guy. LOL Hubby almost backed down. He told the man what had been happening to Kelly. The man said okay, shut the door and yelled for his son. We could hear him spanking him from outside. Kelly and the boy were friends after that.
16 posted on 04/02/2004 5:51:47 AM PST by gopheraj
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To: Aquinasfan
School is hell. Prison for children who have committed the crime of being born.

That's about how I remember it.

17 posted on 04/02/2004 5:51:53 AM PST by Riley
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To: TaxRelief; Constitution Day; azhenfud
Well, I could see it happening if it was over a Moonpie maybe....Good to see the public schools are getting so much better in this state. Thanks of course to 16 years of handling by Jim Hunt I imagine
18 posted on 04/02/2004 5:52:13 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: T.Smith
There would not be a problem if ALL the children had snack cakes - but because one did and the other didn't we have a problem. No one should have more then those around them, everybody should be equal in their material goods, so there is no jealousy or envy. And the father who makes enough money to buy his kid snack cakes should be MADE to use the money instead to buy all the children snack cakes. This is so unfair! And the little girl with the new spring outfit her mom just bought her - I don't blame the other girls if they throw mud at her - she should not have more than others - the money for the dress should have been put in a kitty for children with no clothes. (sarcasm of course) No instead this bully punk who has hurt this boy should be made to work extra odd jobs after school to pay for the doctors bills of this boy, then he should work more jobs to buy every kid in that school cakes, while he eats rice and beans -
19 posted on 04/02/2004 5:54:16 AM PST by Esther Ruth (George W. Bush - My Kids Newest Bestest Super Hero of ALL TIME)
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To: Puppage
No, no, they don't "snack on snakes" down there ~ they take 'em to church wif'em!
20 posted on 04/02/2004 5:55:15 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
'Snake Cake'. That could be interesting, or disgusting. probably the latter.
21 posted on 04/02/2004 5:57:11 AM PST by Riley
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To: gopheraj
"spanking.... Kelly and the boy were friends after that."

Discipline: for reproof and correction. Thanks for your post.
22 posted on 04/02/2004 5:59:46 AM PST by Socratic (Yes, there is method in the madness.)
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To: Socratic
Bullies are like that. I had to deal with that sort of thing in school, and once in the service.

Myself and a bully had guard duty at a remote location within Camp Lejeune over a weekend. Just me and the bully. He had nothing better to do, so he physically harassed me until I racked him across both shins with a mattock handle. Hard enough to drop him, not hard enough to break bones.

Then he wanted to be friends. End of conflict.
23 posted on 04/02/2004 6:06:28 AM PST by Riley
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To: All
Clearly the kid should have used the French/Spanish method of dealing with this by giving the Zebra cake to the 5th grader. Futhermore the 10 YO should be punished for not sharing his wealth and for making the other children feel bad by eating his cake in public. He should be made to bring Zebra cakes for everyone on the bus for the rest of the semester.
24 posted on 04/02/2004 6:06:44 AM PST by BadAndy (Life-long Amerophile)
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To: TaxRelief
Fifth grader charged after bus fight over snack cake [9 yr old beaten to unconsciousness]

WOW. Are those cakes really that good?

25 posted on 04/02/2004 6:09:13 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: gopheraj
"When our son was in the third grade, there was a black kid who bullied him every day on the bus - just picky stuff. He was a big ole boy. Finally hubby had had enough and went to the kids home. He could hear the foot steps of the dad coming. HE was a huge guy. LOL Hubby almost backed down. He told the man what had been happening to Kelly. The man said okay, shut the door and yelled for his son. We could hear him spanking him from outside. Kelly and the boy were friends after that. "

GREAT! Good for your hubby for confronting the father. Ya just never know what you'll find behind that next door. Most parents would understand when their children are bad and need discipline. (And some don't)

26 posted on 04/02/2004 6:10:12 AM PST by FixitGuy
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To: T.Smith
I would go to his house and beat his father senseless

Well that really makes sense. You never did anything that your parents told you not to do?

27 posted on 04/02/2004 6:10:31 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Riley
"End of conflict."

Peace through strength. 'Nough said.
28 posted on 04/02/2004 6:20:08 AM PST by Socratic (Yes, there is method in the madness.)
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To: Buffettbassman
"...PASS a bullying law that requires school officials to notify the parents as well as law enforcement.">

Rather than pass a bullying law pass a law that would require all TV sets sold to families with young children to have a lock on all programs that show any violence including the soaps and cartoons. PULL THE PLUG! It is very easy and effective. Lazy parents leave their young children in front of the boob tube for hours on end then blame schools etc. for this sort of behavior .

29 posted on 04/02/2004 6:20:38 AM PST by yoe (Political Correctness OUT! Profiling IN! Know your enemy!)
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To: Buffettbassman
"...PASS a bullying law that requires school officials to notify the parents as well as law enforcement.">

Rather than pass a bullying law pass a law that would require all TV sets sold to families with young children to have a lock on all programs that show any violence including the soaps and cartoons. PULL THE PLUG! It is very easy and effective. Lazy parents leave their young children in front of the boob tube for hours on end then blame schools etc. for this sort of behavior .

30 posted on 04/02/2004 6:21:00 AM PST by yoe (Political Correctness OUT! Profiling IN! Know your enemy!)
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To: Buffettbassman
.....sorry for the double post...
31 posted on 04/02/2004 6:22:40 AM PST by yoe (Political Correctness OUT! Profiling IN! Know your enemy!)
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To: Esther Ruth
There would not be a problem if ALL the children had snack cakes - but because one did and the other didn't we have a problem. No one should have more then those around them, everybody should be equal in their material goods, so there is no jealousy or envy. And the father who makes enough money to buy his kid snack cakes should be MADE to use the money instead to buy all the children snack cakes.

Let us get it right, shall we? Hmmm?

The proper way to do this is to levy a snack tax - Maryland led the way on this a few years back - but make it federal. Then we must set up the Federal Administration of Taxed Snacks (FATS) in order to equitably distribute the snacks among the palm kernel oil underprivileged. I’m thinkin’ cabinet level here folks, or at least cupboard level. ONLY THEN will there be justice (and zebra kakes) for everyone.

CHANT WITH ME NOW! NO SNACKS - NO PEACE! HEY HEY… HO HO… mmmmmmm hohos….

32 posted on 04/02/2004 6:24:22 AM PST by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: from occupied ga
I never beat an other 5th grader unconscious. Any kid that savage is not getting proper parenting. If you think he is, you're crazy. A kid that savage is being trained at home, or, at the very least, is being abetted by his parents' lack of action. Beating the father might encourage him to take a more pro-active role in his sons' upbringing. It would also be a major catharsis for me.

Think of it this way: citizens of Falluja kill Americans and drag their bodies through the streets. We kills large numbers of Fallujans, not necessarily the perpetrators. Americans cease to be killed and their bodies dragged through the streets.
33 posted on 04/02/2004 6:24:29 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: Tijeras_Slim
"What makes you think there's a father in that household?"

I hope there is. I mean, I would feel awfully guilty beating his mother.

Just kidding.

34 posted on 04/02/2004 6:25:59 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: TaxRelief
Just goes to show that children are nothing but beasts straight out of the trees without strict discipline.
35 posted on 04/02/2004 6:30:54 AM PST by FierceDraka (Service and Glory!)
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To: TaxRelief
Public schools, again. This is just part of "developing social skills", isn't it?

Thanks once again to the NEA, one of the biggest supporters of the dumbocRAT party.

36 posted on 04/02/2004 6:31:40 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Give liberals a rope, and they will hang themselves with it.)
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To: TaxRelief
Mother Terresa once said ( I paraphrase) in a nation that kills its most helpless citizens for profit and convienence one would expect violence towards other helpless citzens to be increasingly common...
37 posted on 04/02/2004 6:32:00 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: TaxRelief
"My child was thug of the month
at Martin Luthor King elementary"
38 posted on 04/02/2004 6:36:05 AM PST by djf
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To: Riley
That's about how I remember it.

You're not the only one.

From John Taylor Gatto's Underground History of American Education:

Just under eighteen hundred people wrote letters to me in the year I was New York State Teacher of the Year, in response to a series of essays I wrote about what I had witnessed as a schoolteacher, essays which have now become part of this book. In a strange way, those different letters were eighteen hundred versions of the same letter, a spontaneous outcry against the violation that so many feel in being compelled to be a character in someone else’s fantasy of how to grow up. Listen to a few of these voices:

Huntington, West Virginia "Homeschooling may be stressful but it’s nothing compared to the stress I experienced watching my daughter’s self-respect and creative energy drain away within the first few weeks of third grade."

Toronto, Canada "Little has changed since I was asked to sit in straight rows and memorize an irrelevant curriculum. Recently my wife quit her job because we fear losing contact with our children as they enter a school system we cannot understand and are unable to change."

Frankfurt, Illinois "I had a rich personal inquiry going on in many things. School was for me a tedious interruption of my otherwise interesting life."

Yelm, Washington "My passion is that my daughter be allowed to grow up being completely who she is. Right now she is a happy, enthusiastic, self-taught child of eight and a half. She taught herself to read at four, reads everything. School to me has always felt sick at the core of its concept."

Madison, Wisconsin "I’m desperate what to do. Three bright and lively children but everyday I see a closing down of enthusiasm as they grind their way through a predetermined school program."

Reno, Nevada "My wife and I came to the end of the rope with public education four years ago. I was tired of seeing my once happy child constantly in tears."

Santa Barbara, California "I just took my eight-year-old daughter from school. Bit by bit she was becoming silent, even fearful. From her anxiety to reach the school bus on time to the times she was visibly shaken from criticism of her homework. Day by day she was changing for the worse. But the absolute end was the destructive effect the culture of schoolchildren’s values had on her behavior. Now she laughs again. I have my laughing girl back."

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania "School started to destroy my family by dividing us from one another instead of joining us. It created separatism among the kids, among the classes, among ages, among parents and children. After I took my second grader from school she began to blossom. She loves her time now, the time is the gift."

Huntersville, North Carolina "I defined myself as a child by my accomplishments at school just as I had been taught to. I was a National Merit Scholar and a Presidential Scholar but I couldn’t even make it through two years of college because my own authoritarian schooling had left me completely unprepared to make my own decisions."

St. Louis, Missouri "Mr. Gatto, you are describing my daughter when you name the pathological symptoms our children display as a result of their schooling. And you are describing me—which pains me almost unbearably to recognize and admit."

Haverhill, Massachusetts "I have no certificates of great accomplishment, no titles, no diploma except a high school one, no degree except when I have a fever. Yet I do have experience gained while raising three daughters. I’d like to paint a picture for you. I had to take my daughter out of kindergarten after five weeks. This happy, self-regulating child I was raising showed great signs of stress in that short of a time. I remembered the rebellion of my two angry teenagers, suddenly made the connection, and took her from school. And so the last girl I raised as a free child. There have been no signs of anger or rebellion since then. That was seventeen years ago."


39 posted on 04/02/2004 6:36:06 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: 70times7
Mayor Daley has already done this in Chicago. Little Debbie Snack Cakes always used to be $1.19 but just the other week he has had them raise the price for Little Debbies to $10.19. The extra money is going to pay for the new parks on the lake front.
40 posted on 04/02/2004 6:38:28 AM PST by Esther Ruth (George W. Bush - My Kids Newest Bestest Super Hero of ALL TIME)
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To: T.Smith
Beating the father might encourage him to take a more pro-active role in his sons' upbringing. It would also be a major catharsis for me.

Realistically speaking it would at the very least get you thrown in jail, and if the "parent" assuming there was a father in the equation at all, is good with defensive stuff, ie packs, will get you killed. If you want to get thrown in jail, why not go direct to the source and beat up the kid? Or why not beat up his momma since it is much more likely that there is only a momma around?

PS getting to meet bubba in jail may also be a major catharsis for you too.

41 posted on 04/02/2004 6:42:29 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: T.Smith
If some kid did that to my son I would go to his house and beat his father senseless.

Not to get too far off subject topic, but I firmly believe that whipping dad's ass would help in lots of situations. Kid acts up—whip dad’s ass. Wife acts like a fool—whip dad’s ass. Some people respond to getting knocked around. It may be the only thing they respond to. Pretty soon, dad won’t want to see you pulling into the driveway and get control of his family. </rant>

42 posted on 04/02/2004 6:46:07 AM PST by TankerKC (Clogged Arteries and Still Smilin'!)
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How the system "works," from a former NY schoolteacher:
An Arena Of Dishonesty

I remember clearly the last school where I worked, on the wealthy Upper West Side of Manhattan. An attractive atmosphere of good-natured dishonesty was the lingua franca of corridor and classroom, a grace caused oddly enough by the school’s unwritten policy of cutting unruly children all the slack they could use.

Student terrorists, muggers, sexual predators, and thieves, including two of my own pupils who had just robbed a neighborhood grocery of $300 and had been apprehended coming back to class, were regularly returned to their lessons after a brief lecture from the principal. All received the same mercy. There was no such thing as being held to account at my school. This behavioral strategy—leveling good, bad, ugly into one undifferentiated lumpenproletariat1—may seem odd or morally repugnant in conventional terms, but it constituted masterful psychological management from the perspective of enlightened pedagogy. What this policy served and served well was to prioritize order and harmony above justice or academic development.

Once you know the code, the procedure is an old one. It can hardly be called radical politics except by the terminally innocent. If you spend a few hours with Erving Goffman’s work on the management of institutions, you discover that the strongest inmates in an asylum and the asylum’s management have a bond; they need each other. This isn’t cynical. It’s a price that must be paid for the benefits of mega-institutions. The vast Civil War prison camp of Andersonville couldn’t have operated without active cooperation from its more dangerous inmates; so too, Dachau; so it is in school. Erving Goffman taught us all we need to know about the real grease which makes institutional wheels turn.

A tacit hands-off policy pays impressive dividends. In the case of my school, those dividends were reflected in the neighborhood newspaper’s customary reference to the place as "The West Side’s Best-Kept Secret." This was supposed to mean that private school conditions obtained inside the building, civility was honored, the battlefield aspect of other schools with large minority populations was missing. And it was true. The tone of the place was as good as could be found in Community School District 3. It was as if by withdrawing every expectation from the rowdy, their affability rose in inverse proportion.

Not long after my transfer into this school I came into home room one morning to discover Jack, a handsome young fellow of thirteen, running a crap game in the back of the room, a funny looking cigarette in his mouth. "Hey, Jack, knock it off," I snapped, and like the surprisingly courteous boy he was, he did. But a little while later there was Jack undressing a girl fairly conspicuously in the same corner, and this time when I intervened harshly he was slow to comply. A second order got no better results. "If I have to waste time on this junk again, Jack, you can cool your heels in the principal’s office," I said

Jack looked disappointed in me. He spoke frankly as if we were both men of the same world, "Look, Gatto," he told me in a low, pleasant voice so as not to embarrass me, "it won’t do any good. Save yourself the trouble. That lady will wink at me, hold me there for eight minutes—I’ve timed her before—and dump me back here. Why make trouble for yourself?" He was right. Eight minutes.

How could such a policy produce hallway decorum and relative quiet in classrooms, you may ask? Well, look at it this way: it’s tailor-made to be nonconfrontational with dangerous kids. True, it spreads terror and bewilderment among their victims, but, happy or unhappy, the weak are no problem for school managers; long experience with natural selection at my school had caused unfortunates to adapt, in Darwinian fashion, to their role as prey. Like edible animals they continued to the water hole in spite of every indignity awaiting. That hands-off modus vivendi extended to every operation. Only once in four years did I hear any teacher make an indirect reference to what was happening. One day I heard a lady remark offhandedly to a friend, "It’s like we signed the last Indian treaty here: you leave us alone; we leave you alone."

It’s not hard to see that, besides its beneficial immediate effect, this pragmatic policy has a powerful training function, too. Through it an army of young witnesses to officially sanctioned bad conduct learn how little value good conduct has. They learn pragmatism. Part of its silent testimony is that the strong will always successfully suppress the weak, so the weak learn to endure. They learn that appeals to authority are full of risk, so they don’t make them often. They learn what they need in order to be foot soldiers in a mass army.


43 posted on 04/02/2004 6:46:08 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Riley
That's about how I remember it.

I don’t. When I was in school, I just didn’t take any crap. Even if I was going to loose, I wouldn’t back down. I never started anything, but I finished plenty. I NEVER got into trouble either. Why? Because I got good grades & behaved. The teacher’s knew I would not start trouble. That wouldn’t happen now. I’d probably be sent to counseling. Kids today don't learn to defend themselves...and, they really aren't allowed to anyway.

44 posted on 04/02/2004 6:51:09 AM PST by TankerKC (Clogged Arteries and Still Smilin'!)
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To: TankerKC
I moved about sixty times by the time I was eighteen and could strike out on my own. (Bad family situation)

I was always the new kid, going up against the established bully clique. Eventually, through trail and error, I learned that I would still go down, but if I did it fighting, at least I still had a degree of self-respect. Sometimes, I would prevail. But the whole experience was a Gulag for kids, as far as I was concerned.

I don't go to 'reunions'.
45 posted on 04/02/2004 6:56:33 AM PST by Riley
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To: TankerKC
Right - they are NOT taught to defend themselves - that is wrong - instead you talk talk talk, do anger management, or conflict resolution and try to understand why the bully doesn't like you, WWOD - What would Ophrah DO? Hugs all the way around, just hugs! Picked up a video years ago at library for kids, a redo of The Three Pigs - UN believable - the Wolf trashed their houses but they realized the wolf just was lonely, left out and sad, what he really needed was friends - so they made the wolf cookies - (baking cookies for the wolf!!) brought the cookies to the wolf, wolf eats cookies, everyone friends, all good on planet earth!
46 posted on 04/02/2004 7:02:31 AM PST by Esther Ruth (George W. Bush - My Kids Newest Bestest Super Hero of ALL TIME)
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To: Esther Ruth
That kind of crap was just getting started when I was in school.

Unfortunately, as a student, you aren't in a position to point out the obvious- adults are sometimes complete blithering idiots. Especially when they create this sort of nonsense.
47 posted on 04/02/2004 7:11:28 AM PST by Riley
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To: Aquinasfan
School isn't about learning. It never has been.

When your mother is a teacher form the old school style of teaching, school IS about learning. No matter what else went on there it was STILL about learning.

Yeh, I got bullied, a lot. I was a small teenager and the only thing that stopped it was fighting back.
I lost a lot but I ALWAYS left a visible mark.
The bullies eventually got tired of answering the question, "Who did that to you", having to answer with my name, and getting the, "That LITTLE kid?", reply.

48 posted on 04/02/2004 7:14:46 AM PST by Just another Joe (Monthly donors are better lovers)
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To: TaxRelief; katnip
Social skills bump
49 posted on 04/02/2004 7:17:35 AM PST by MarMema (Next Year in Constantinople!)
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To: TaxRelief
The school solution will be, of course, to ban snack cakes from school property.
50 posted on 04/02/2004 7:21:26 AM PST by Wolfie
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