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Posted on 04/02/2004 8:01:40 AM PST by momfirst

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To: OrioleFan; momfirst
Fantastic!! The word "feelings" is a wonderful suggestion.

**and as a side note, for all those lazy teenagers who never show up for class because they are too lazy or are too hungover and who always hound you for your notes... PINK INK cannot be xeroxed. I took ALL of my notes in pink. I got tired of being the class note taker and carrying everyone.**
21 posted on 04/02/2004 8:35:28 AM PST by bearkat (I haven't been ignoring you, I have been prioritizing you.)
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To: momfirst
mom,
I like the recommendations people have posted so far. You do have alot going for you since it's a public institution. I suggest your state representatives be made aware of the entire situation. Contact your state AND federal reps, for that matter, and be prepared to submit letters to them as well.

May I also recommend you post at:

http://www.NoIndoctrination.org/view.shtml

I work in higher ed now, and I assure you that $$ is the place to hit them. They have to pretend they care if you use words like "inclusiveness/exclusiveness", "Other", "marginalized", "discursive/discourse", "intimidation", et al. Liberal platitudes will get their attention, but $$ will get results. That attitude can also lead you into legal domains, esp concerning the 1st Amendment, but that's a mixed bag.

I'll add that I also went to college later in life: I started at 22, but had just come off 4 years in the Army and felt like an old man in those classes, even though I was only a couple years older than most of them.

Most faculty and administrators are candy-assed cowards and buckle like a belt when faced with determined opposition.
22 posted on 04/02/2004 8:35:52 AM PST by Gefreiter
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To: momfirst
I attended classes where the professors were far left liberals--one appeared to be a drawback from the 60s radicals since he wore long hair and sat cross-legged on top of his desk to teach. The way I dealt with it was that I armed myself with as much political information against the demoncRATS and go on the offensive. I always asked questions re the shenanigans the demoncRATS would pull. When one professor extolled the virtues of the Kennedys one time, I pointed that ole Joe Kennedy, the family patriarch, made his money bootlegging and pointed out his well-known H'weirdo affair with Gloria Swanson. He didn't like that at all and refused to believe ole Joe and his bootlegging past. Needless to say, I didn't do well in his class. With another prof, I pointed out that a Cabinet-level staffer had her disk drive re-cleaned so that info previously deleted was called up where the staffer had said some derogatory remarks about the Clinton Admin. Professor refused to believe that but it was reported in a blurb in the newspaper months previously. Didn't do the greatest in the class but wasn't at the bottom of the pile. Another prof was for gun control and the students had to do reports on gun control. I sent for info from the NRA to do my report. Prof pointed out that she disagreed wholeheartedly with my position but my report was good.

All I can say is "knowledge is power" and is the only way to fight ignorance.
23 posted on 04/02/2004 8:35:59 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: marinamuffy
I also attend a Community College and had a horrible experience with a "history" teacher.

My PE track teacher was a raving leftist. He would use the rest time between intervals to read us drivel comparing Bush to Hitler. In private, I finally told him it made me "feel" "uncomfortable" (LOL)and I didn't sign up for the class to hear it.

He stopped, but one day when I was absent, he told the whole class I was the token conservative and he couldn't read his political notes when I was there. Of coures everyone in the class told me what he said the next day:-)

24 posted on 04/02/2004 8:38:02 AM PST by Drango (2 FReep is 2B --- 2B is 2 FReep)
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To: momfirst
First, shorten it, tighten it by using only examples with corroboration.

The whole letter should fit on one page, double-spaced.

Never use awkward constructs, "impactful?"

25 posted on 04/02/2004 8:40:58 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: momfirst
I would delete everything in the first paragraph beyond "subject to political propaganda each and every morning."

The moment you mention that you believe there's any liberal bias, the leftists will toss the letter in the trash. Keep your focus on the policy and his violations of it.

Consider contacting FIRE or David Horowitz at frontpagemag.com for advice BEFORE you send this. I'm sure they'll be glad to help.

Good luck!
26 posted on 04/02/2004 8:43:22 AM PST by FormerLib (Feja e shqiptarit eshte terorizm.)
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To: momfirst
Good luck and a couple of comments/suggestions.....

Take a hard look at your lead paragraph and maybe delete the references to liberal, conservative, bigotry, ridicule, etc. A lot of those terms are subjective in definition and thus frames your entire letter as being a whiner or I didn't get what I wanted. You have a good case to present but present it without the accusations of political leanings but rather by contrast of not being fair and equal to the many opposing views expressed by the many different political advocates of the day, i.e.... Democrats, Republicans, Socialist, Communist, Constutionalist, Environmentalist, etc. If the contrast is there the Board will get the meaning and understand without the stereotyping being spelled out.

Just a suggestion and good luck in your endeavor.
27 posted on 04/02/2004 8:44:08 AM PST by deport (("These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group I have ever seen. It's scary," Kerry said.)
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To: momfirst
Great letter, but I would say don't send it until you're ready to graduate. Priority #1 is to finish school, and deal with the B.S. afterwards.

In fact, the most effective thing for you to do would be to write the letter, date it, and sign it -- and then send copies of it back to them (with no money, of course) every time you receive solicitations for alumni contributions.

Your other option is to change majors, and switch to engineering. All the political nonsense in the world ain't gonna design a bridge to stand up for a hundred years.

28 posted on 04/02/2004 8:46:13 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE north strong and free.)
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To: momfirst
Waaaaaiiiitttt a sec...

I thought Conservatives were the hate-mongering bigots?! What's all this nonsense about a Lefty being close-minded and hateful?!?
29 posted on 04/02/2004 8:53:21 AM PST by jcb8199
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To: momfirst
Add language that they understand. Mention that you were personally offended.
30 posted on 04/02/2004 9:02:26 AM PST by rogueleader
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To: momfirst
INTREP - EDUCATION - PROFESSORIAL TYRANNY
31 posted on 04/02/2004 9:09:13 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: narby
Thanks! I appreciate it - if I didn't want critical analysis, I wouldn't have posted on FR, LOL! That's the kind of feedback I need. If I'm going to do this, I need to do it right (no pun intended).
32 posted on 04/02/2004 9:33:36 AM PST by momfirst
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To: ContemptofCourt
Good point. That's actually what I was afraid of and needed some guidance. I'll need to map his actions specifically - that is my goal. Thanks!
33 posted on 04/02/2004 9:37:24 AM PST by momfirst
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To: FormerLib
Super - I'll look into those contacts first.
34 posted on 04/02/2004 9:39:28 AM PST by momfirst
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To: OrioleFan
Great point. I know of at least one other that I have contact with - I will get with her and discuss this before I submit it as well.
35 posted on 04/02/2004 9:40:12 AM PST by momfirst
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To: Gefreiter
Thank you! Interesting to note is that I am at the college campus at this very moment using their computers before classes and strangely this link you gave me is "fobidden" on their computers....makes me even more curious what this link leads to! I'll check it from home....
36 posted on 04/02/2004 9:46:45 AM PST by momfirst
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To: Gefreiter
..Uh, that was "forbidden" - the campus is sucking the intellect out of me! LOL
37 posted on 04/02/2004 9:47:40 AM PST by momfirst
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To: momfirst
Check to see what they are called.....I know it sure as heck isn't a school board.

38 posted on 04/02/2004 9:53:34 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Hodar
I said all of what I said as a software engineer who didn't finish college. The percentage of things studied at a college which apply to engineering is about 20 percent, maybe. One of the most outstanding engineers where I work went to a 1 year tech school. He could engineer circles around people with any level of degree. I have another friend with a BS EE and an MS in Computer Engineering. This person didn't know how many bits were in a byte or what a compiler did. He was relegated to tech writing.

Even the medical profession could be achieved with a more efficient means of education.

Meanwhile we have build dens of iniquity and liberality who rule acadamia and pop thought. To diverge from their way of thinking is to be more than just labeled as odd but to be completely dicredited.

39 posted on 04/02/2004 10:02:38 AM PST by biblewonk (The only book worth reading, and reading, and reading.)
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To: biblewonk
While I do agree with your analysis, and your personal observations are confirmed on my end; college is more than just learning about a subject.

College is an endurance test, no one can force you to go throught it and put up with all the non-sense. Getting the degree demonstrates 2 things. First, you are capable of learning, and secondly you don't get frustrated and simply give up.

I'm an electrical engineer with ~20 years under my belt, and most of what I had to endure in college was a waste of time and energy. But, I endured it; I didn't quit. Now, when I hire for a new position; I'm more interested in a candidate who completed a school (and I don't consider students who got through based upon affirmative action - I want someone who can do things on their own). First off, I have confidence that the future employee won't walk off the job the first time things get rough. Secondly, I'm reasonably certain that the employee will learn anything he needs to learn; in order to get the job done. If that means learning Thermodynamics, manufacturing processes or Excel; he'll be there for me.

And lastly, if you need an expert RIGHT NOW, yes the 'SuperTech' will do it. But a fresh-out engineer will, within a year or two, match the SuperTech. Beyond that, I would expect the college grad to excel beyond where the 'SuperTech' is, as most of them peak at some point, and college grads tend (tend does not mean always) to peak much higher.
40 posted on 04/02/2004 10:14:18 AM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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