The Dead Of Fallujah

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[William McKinley]

The Dead Of Fallujah

Three of the four victims of the atrocity in Fallujah have been identified:

Scott Helvenston, 38, was a former member of the US Navy SEALs who joined at the age of 17 and served until 1994. He then became a fitness instructor and actor, appearing in such films as GI Jane and Face/Off. He was the father of two sons, one 15, the other 13. His brother had this to say about Helvenston:

He's a hero. He died supplying food to people who needed it.

Democratic blogger "Kos" had this to say about Helvenston:

I feel nothing over the death of merceneries.

Jerry Zovko, 32, was a veteran of the US Army and a mechanic. He joined the army in 1991 at the age of 19 and served with the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg in North Carolina. His mother, Donna Zovko, had this to say about him:

Jerry was a man with a principle, an idea. He loved people. He wanted the world to be without borders, for everybody to be free and safe.

Democratic blogger "Kos" had this to say about Zovko and his associates:

They aren't in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit.

Mike Teague, 38, was a member of the US Army, earning a Bronze Star in Afghanistan. He also served in Panama and Grenada. His wife, Rhonda Teague, had this to say about him:

Mike was a proud father, soldier, and American. I, his son Brandon, and his friends and family will miss him without measure.

Democratic blogger "Kos" had this message for the families of the slain:

Screw them.

The three individuals pictured here, and the one unnamed victim, killed in Fallujah, killed by a mass of people they were trying to help, were examples of the best of this country. They wore many hats: soldier, patriot, father, husband, brother, son. They were mechanics and sports fans, actors and athletes, soldiers and sailors. They gave their lives in the highest pursuit known to man - selflessly going into the face of grave danger to help their common man.

And "Kos" feels the need to spit on their graves.

So much for that much vaunted liberal "compassion."

Spoons suggests dropping The Daily Kos from blogrolls in protest. I agree entirely...

Michael Friedman has a list of Kos advertisers running political campaigns. Writing letters of disgust to them would be entirely appropriate - campaigning against them would be even better. (UPDATE: Both Joe Donnelly and Martin Frost have pulled their ads from The Daily Kos.)

Memorials to the victims of this atrocity can be sent here:

Memorial Fund
PO Box 159
Moyock, NC 27958

[San Jacinto]

We lost some good ones. Thanks for posting.

[Humidston]

"Kos" is probably a pillow-biting prissy boy and isn't fit to share their planet!

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[BadAndy]

Democrats have hated America since the Vietman war. Nothing has changed. They always side with the enemy. I don't need any more evidence proving the obvious. They should all rot in He||.

[Travis McGee]

Scott Helvenston, Navy SEAL, R.I.P.

[Chinese_American_Patriot]

What are kos? They actually said that horrible crap about these brave men who were indignantly killed by those savages?!?

[McGavin999]

We had a couple of those smarmy types here yesterday William.

[William McKinley]

He's a blogger of some minor fame. His website gets a fairly substantial amount of traffic. Lots of Democrats advertise on it, both to solicit donations and to recruit volunteers.

[Gerasimov]

Awful ... just awful. I get madder and madder. If I though I could make a difference by catching a flight to Baghdad with a rifle in my hand I'd go...

How long till the bombs drop? Get the Marines in there!

This is why they should die

[Chinese_American_Patriot]

So, kos are nothing but insignificant liberal demoncraps?

[InABunkerUnderSF]

Fallujah When are we going to level that berg?

[William McKinley]

More on Kos and who supports him here.

[rageaholic]

I'm thinking of volunteering for the Democrats this year. If I put some real effort into being rude and incompitent, I could probably implode their campaign.

[Judith Anne]

How about making this be a memorial thread for the Fallujah Four?

I'll start:

Hub and I are keeping the families, friends, and loved ones of the Fallujah Four in our prayers for their inconsolable loss. May we never forget their sacrifice, their heroism, and their contribution. And may those who committed this offense burn in the fires of hell eternally.

[kinghorse]

This from of all places a Fark thread.

Fundamentalmentalbundle


I spent 8 years in the US Navy. I have a son in Iraq as we speak. I've never met anyone who joined the miliary to kill people. Mostly they just do their jobs. If they have to fight, it's to keep their own asses from getting blown away or to protect their buddies who are almost like family. I've never met one person who was opposed to the military who was really informed. They could only spout the mindless drivel they've heard from the propaganda machine in this country or from some asshat professor who thought he/she knew more than anyone else when he/she was only mindlessly spouting what he/she heard.

My son tells me about the villagers he's met near where he's stationed. They're good people who only want to be left alone, in peace, just like most of us. They live in mud huts with dirt floors. Their children had no school before the US and other UN forces came. Sadam had taxed them to death to build his war machine and his palaces.

The people who keep shooting rockets and small arms at my son and his friends are apparently religious fundamentalists. I'm a Christian, but not fundamentalist. I have learned that Fundamentalists of any religion are neither fun nor mentalists. That leaves only DUH (works better out loud).

I don't know what this war is really about. I suspect it's about more than we know. China was supplying arms to Iraq before and may yet be. I'd be willing to bet that the global strategic position is a lot more complicated than any of us know.

Turn off your damn televisions and radios, put down the newspapers. They're all either liberal or conservative propaganda tools. Pick up some history books, talk to some real people, always keeping an open but critical mind. And most of all, THINK.

And find a way to serve your country, if not in the military, then as a public servant. At least get your ass out and pick up some trash. If you don't serve, you're part of the problem instead of part of the solution.

[Who dat?]

Scott Helvenston, 38, was a former member of the US Navy SEALs who joined at the age of 17 and served until 1994.

He seems like a good kid. I know he’d been to El Salvador, and at some point had been involved in a parachuting accident that busted him up pretty badly.

It’s sort of anti-climactic to have been through some of the things he’d been through and had the accomplishments he did, only to get taken out by some nut(s) in Fallujah, IMO.

The Zovko photo is interesting (to me) because he’s a dead-ringer for someone I knew long ago. The person he looks *exactly* like worked for a security outfit called Combat (Combative?) Concepts or something similar. They trained SWAT/SERT teams at the time, and he was an ex-SEAL. But he’d be in his late 50’s/early 60’s now, and I’ve been rooked by coincidental look-alikes before… but it’s an eerie similarity nonetheless…

[William McKinley]

I'll join you in that. A friend of mine here at FR was thinking of taking a job which would have put him in Iraq for a while. I am glad he isn't going.

These men were brave, and they were doing selfless work.

I am thankful for people like Kos. They are the ones who keep having the mask the Democrat party tries to keep on slip off. Throw in together the Wellstone Memorial and a few other recent eye-openers, and the antiAmericanism of the left is shining through loud and clear.

And those who died in Iraq here? They were Americans. God bless them all. They were fathers, friends, coworkers, sons, men. Patriots. Americans to the core. Screw them? No, Kos. Bless them and theirs.

[Chinese_American_Patriot]

What sick, disgusting pictures!!!! I saw the same thing on Michael Savage's website and I am VERY, VERY, angry. Im glad that W is our president because if Clinton were still president, we would be embarrased again just like in Mogadishu! THIS is what we should do to those SAVAGES in Al-Fallujah and the entire Sunni Triangle!!!!
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[muawiyah]

St. Francis of Assisi springs to mind ~ Three such men in one small event ~ I am moved.

[Chinese_American_Patriot]

OMG, those "kos" make me sick. It just proves just how much liberals are lying traitors!! I think we should throw those morons in Al-Fallujah and let those savages do their evil on them!! Maybe then, those kos will know what its like to suffer such horrific deaths, but since libs are warped, brainwashed idiots, maybe not.

[pop-aye]

rude? incompetent?

How would you stand out?

[pop-aye]

I should have made that post a bit longer....

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To: William McKinley
I'm thinking of volunteering for the Democrats this year. If I put some real effort into being rude and incompitent, I could probably implode their campaign.

14 posted on 04/02/2004 3:10:26 PM PST by rageaholic

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rude? incompetent? How would you stand out?

[Lurker]

Monsters. They're freaking monsters.

We have their faces. Now we need to get their asses.

On our terms....

L

[vavavah]

I havent seen mentioned what the pay scale was for these private contractors.Was it the equivilant of the E3,4,5 and 6"s they worked with side bye side?

[skeeter]

It burns me up to know guys like this are dying abroad while pigs like Kos sit comfortably behind a computer spewing their filth.

[PsyOp]

A few thoughts in their honor. They were, after all, soldiers--first, last, and always:

O beautiful for heroes proved
In liberating strife,
Who more than self their country loved,
And mercy more than life!
America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness
And every gain divine!
- Katherine Lee Bates, America The Beautiful.

Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong. - I Corinthians 16:13.

And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him, and said unto him, The Lord is with thee, thou mighty man of valor. - Judges 6:12.

Courage is the first of human qualities because it is the quality which guarantees all others. - Winston Churchill.

War makes strange giant creatures out of us little routine men who inhabit the earth. - Ernie Pyle, Here is Your War.

[arasina]

I sincerely regret the loss of these four fine civilian workers and share in your prayers for their loved ones and families. We can't forget the five soldiers (or were they Marines?) who lost their lives the same day. I pray that God shields from harm all of our military, the coalition members, and the civilians who are working to make Iraq a free nation.

[Eva]

Here is part of the Best of the Web article on the daily Kos:

It's worth noting that the Daily Kos is popular among Democratic leaders. Zuniga is a principal in the Armstrong Zuniga political consulting firm, which touts the Daily Kos as "the most popular political weblog with over 3 million monthly visits." Friedman has a list of congressional candidates who advertise on the site, and in a February posting Zuniga reported that Terry McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, "asked if I would post" a "Message to Blog Community."

[Eva]

The WSJ had an article on the private sector contracted jobs available in Iraq and they said that the pay was quite good. Haliburton was holding interviews in Houston.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

If I ever met Kos, and Kos identified himself/herself I'd smash his/her freaking skull in with a crow bar...

[Humidston]

....And I'd be pleased and proud to introduce you to him/her if I could!

You could sell tickets to such an event and make a fortune!

[Kaslin]

This really hit our community quite bad. Mike Teague lived only a little over 3 miles from me. I did not know him or his family, but my son said this morning he looked familiar to him

Local man among four slain in Iraq

[Eva]

I see that you are from Pennsylvania, Hoeffel, a PA legislator is one of the clients of the guy who writes the Daily Kos. Check out the link in my post to you.

[daybreakcoming]

What does it matter what their pay scale was? They were Americans.

[MrShoop]

Scott Helvenston was one of the guys onthe Mark Burnett reality show "Combat Missions" on USA a couple years ago. It featured competitions between various special forces teams. My condolences to all the families. combat missions

[vavavah]

Missed point

[vavavah]

Couple of X Jars and myself were considering this as a 1 year load up on cash type thing about 8 mnths back...we tossed over this past weeks incidents as a definete maybe (less the barbarianism)and decided ....Negatory....some times $$ don't mater...We got our retirement,will make do on that....

[Humidston]

Hey you knuckle-dragger.... Here's what's at your link:

"DailyKos is undergoing some maintenance right now.
It'll be back up just as soon as possible.
Thanks for your patience."

Next time you want to raise hell, do it somewhere else, ok?

[Eva]

My husband was considering it. He is about ready to retire, another three years and was thinking that if he could make considerably more money in Iraq, he might just retire early and give it a try. He's a Port Captain for an oil tanker company and thought that maybe they could use him. I don't think that he's seriously considering it any more.

[atomic conspiracy]

The fact is you and others have used the broad connotations of the word "mercenary" to justify this barbarous atrocity. Many of these connotations are not applicable to these men, yet it is these irrelevant connotations, and those alone, that support your obscene endorsement of this atrocity.

This is a tiresome and time-dishonored rhetorical method of murder apologists; Joseph Goebbels especially favored it.

Markos Zuniga ("Kos") presumed to know the motives of these men, what they intended to do with their money, and the motives of the Fallujah mob, and he is so arrogant that he assigns the penalty of death and mutilation on the basis of these self-serving clairvoyant delusions.

You've shown your true colors. Now, SCREW YOU, tool.

[LibKill]

What I would do in response, even Ghengis Khan would not do.

[William McKinley]

They were providing security to those bringing the people water and other services.

I'm going to hit abuse on you, because you don't belong here.

But ask for your post to come down? Hardly. I hope you, and people like you, are even more visible than you are now. You all need to show your faces, be loud, be vocal.

Our country needs to see you and those like you for who you are and what you believe.

[Brian Allen]

<< Monsters. They're freaking monsters.
We have their faces. Now we need to get their asses.

On our terms.... >>

Not 'need to' -- MUST!

And the bloody bridge the barbaric bastards used to hang our countrymen's corpses MUST be vaporized.

Let the world understand -- as the Japanese and Germans and former Soviets most assuredly do -- that the klintons and kartahs in our midst and but tolerated by us are also but passing aberations -- and that Intact American Men are back again in our nation's executive suites -- and are again in charge of the world.

[atomic conspiracy]

I havent seen mentioned what the pay scale was for these private contractors.Was it the equivilant of the E3,4,5 and 6"s they worked with side bye side?

$500.00 a day. That's a lot of money, and considerably more than I made as a light colonel in DS-1(let alone as a W-1 in Vietnam), but probably not as much as Markos "Kos" Zuniga and other media elite terror-tools make from their incitement and treason.

[livius]

Scott Helvenston was from Jacksonville and had lived in my town (Gainesville) as a teenager. It's a pity Gainesville has such a left-wing, NYT paper, or there'd be more feeling about this here.

I haven't heard anything about the fourth contractor. Initial reports said one of the dead was a woman with blond hair; I suppose she may have been the fourth one. (However, it's quite possible that this was an error either in the reporting or the translation.)

[HitmanLV]

Censeo Fallujainem esse delendam.

[atomic conspiracy]

Markos "Kos" Zuniga (r)

[atomic conspiracy]

Zuniga again. (not the greatest photoshop, but probably better than I could do)