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New Fossil Links Four-legged Land Animals To Ancient Fish
National Science Foundation ^ | 01 April 2004 | Staff

Posted on 04/02/2004 4:25:18 PM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: PatrickHenry
You should check out http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/creation_update/
81 posted on 04/02/2004 6:56:24 PM PST by blackfarm
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To: blackfarm
Why?
82 posted on 04/02/2004 6:59:32 PM PST by balrog666 (A public service post.)
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To: blackfarm
And you should check out: TIME CUBE.
83 posted on 04/02/2004 6:59:35 PM PST by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist!)
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To: balrog666; blackfarm
[You should check out http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/creation_update/]

Why?

Well since you have to pay to see/hear/view almost everything on that site, my guess would be that he gets some kind of commission.

84 posted on 04/02/2004 7:02:13 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: PatrickHenry
The gaps keep getting smaller

Why yes they do : )

Evolution still working out reality and eventuallity....or...Human reasoning still lacking.

[Would Nomad see this and say....."Sterilize Imperfection" ? ]

Worn down..2 Fully erect Hominids succumb to threat and hand over their credit cards



85 posted on 04/02/2004 7:03:42 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: Ichneumon
If you guys keep this up at this rate, I'll have to compose a form letter or something.

As a Ph.D. biologist (from the better of the two schools mentioned in this article), what I said, I said very seriously. The problem is that there are too many people who have no clue about the role of myth and think of it as something merely antithetical to or as substitute for fact or, more narrowly, for scientific data. This is more clearly seen in the political liberal who confuses his conclusions about reality with reality itself. He's just a realist, he thinks. The same is true for many of the naturalist persuasion who believe that what they see is simply the real world reflecting brightly, and accurately, off the shiny surface of their reason. Because of this, both blind themselves to the way myth structures their own world view and the way that world view selects and interprets data.
86 posted on 04/02/2004 7:06:01 PM PST by aruanan
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To: PatrickHenry
And you should check out: TIME CUBE.

Excerpt:

Greenwich Time is a Lie. Your midday is someone else's midnight, someone else's sundown and even someone else's sunup. Do you know that time is a simultaneous 4 corner square that rotates to a 4 day time cube within 1 - 24 hour rotation of Earth? You are educated stupid and unable to know Nature's 4-Day Time Cube Creation.
Almost indistinguishable from some of the creationist material I've seen.

But there's something charming about the phrase, "you are educated stupid".

87 posted on 04/02/2004 7:07:32 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Long Cut
"That's supposed to prove that the evolution is reasonable?"

Yes, if added to all the other evidence collected over the decades.

WHAT other evidence?

88 posted on 04/02/2004 7:09:10 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: greenwolf
"WHAT other evidence?"

Sigh. The other evidence that you are told about repeatedly, and choose to ignore, like the fossil record, modern dating of such materials, DNA links, transitionals, genetic similarities, and BOOKS worth of things that you've doubtless been shown before.

It's all there. The only theory which best explains it without resorting to supernaturalism is the Theory Of Evolution. To date, no scientific theory has even come close.

So, what POSITIVE evidence, besides Scripture, do YOU have?

89 posted on 04/02/2004 7:14:05 PM PST by Long Cut ("Man, don't hit me with those negative waves SOOoo early in the morning." - Oddball)
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To: Ichneumon
Referring to #88. Please show, ONCE AGAIN, what evidence exists (but only a small part; we don't want to crash FR with the lot of it).
90 posted on 04/02/2004 7:16:03 PM PST by Long Cut ("Man, don't hit me with those negative waves SOOoo early in the morning." - Oddball)
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To: Ichneumon
[ Wow, the "I have no ability to refute the findings but I don't like them so I'll just broadly ridicule them" brigade is out in full force tonight, I see. ]

Are you ridiculing "humans are suckers for a good story ? "..
Turnabout is fair play, I guess..
My comment however is provable..

91 posted on 04/02/2004 7:17:10 PM PST by hosepipe
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To: greenwolf
WHAT other evidence?

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution.

92 posted on 04/02/2004 7:18:51 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
All I see is gaps++
93 posted on 04/02/2004 7:23:52 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: aruanan
Because of this, both blind themselves to the way myth structures their own world view and the way that world view selects and interprets data.

And some become blowhards like you who can only see black and white in a world of gray. Not much difference that I can see.

94 posted on 04/02/2004 7:24:06 PM PST by balrog666 (A public service post.)
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To: VadeRetro
No, no, not the, gasp, evidence!

Darwin Central will not be happy with this wanton exposure of a small part of the facts!

95 posted on 04/02/2004 7:25:59 PM PST by balrog666 (A public service post.)
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To: PatrickHenry
lol I'd forgotton about that place.

"reasons to believe" is just a strange avenue. Why would one need science to give one a "reason" to believe? Why grasp at straws to find some sort of "proof" that one is "right"? If someone is that unsure of their faith, they will not find the answer in science.
96 posted on 04/02/2004 7:26:19 PM PST by visualops (Help cure FReepathons....become a monthly donor!!)
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To: aruanan
As a Ph.D. biologist (from the better of the two schools mentioned in this article), what I said, I said very seriously.

My point wasn't whether you were being serious or not. My point was that posting cryptic and vaguely insulting four-word responses to a thread discussing a science article doesn't add a hell of a lot to the discussion. If you've got something to say, say it in enough detail that you support your opinion, whatever it is.

The problem is that there are too many people who have no clue about the role of myth and think of it as something merely antithetical to or as substitute for fact or, more narrowly, for scientific data. This is more clearly seen in the political liberal who confuses his conclusions about reality with reality itself. He's just a realist, he thinks. The same is true for many of the naturalist persuasion who believe that what they see is simply the real world reflecting brightly, and accurately, off the shiny surface of their reason. Because of this, both blind themselves to the way myth structures their own world view and the way that world view selects and interprets data.

I'll have to respond with a hearty "yeah, so?"

Getting wordy about the obvious fact that perception is not always the same as reality doesn't do squat to support or refute the article being discussed, or evolution in general. Plus it applies equally to theists and atheists, supernaturalists and materialists, so this little speech hardly adds anything to the debate beyond what was already apparent.

97 posted on 04/02/2004 7:26:33 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: edsheppa
All I see is gaps++

Gaps between... what?

98 posted on 04/02/2004 7:27:20 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: balrog666
There's not the slightest danger of it being read and understood. Calm yourself!
99 posted on 04/02/2004 7:27:45 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
When my little thread passes the 100 posts mark, I can retire for the evening, knowing that Darwin Central will be pleased.
100 posted on 04/02/2004 7:29:17 PM PST by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist!)
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