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The question that all Conservatives and Republicans have failed to ask about 9-11.
myself ^ | 3 April 2004 | Trueblackman

Posted on 04/03/2004 10:56:30 AM PST by Trueblackman

Give the demands of liberals and democrats for Dr. Rice to appear publicly before the commission looking into 9-11, why is it that we as Conservatives and Republicans have not demanded that both Senators John Kerry and Teddy Kennedy appear publicly before the 9-11 commission as well, given the fact that both planes that struck the World Trade Center Towers came out of Boston's Logan Airport?

I remember Logan being ranked almost dead last in security and demands from the FAA that Logan improve security, now the questions that need to be asked are, 1) Was security at the airport ever improved as demanded by the FAA? 2)If not what role or infulence did the union have on local, state and federal officials? and 3)Where either of the senators aware of the FAA demand for improved security and did they seek to delay or forgo the FAA Demands at the behest of unions?

I think these are fair questions to be asked of both men and in fact I think Senators Warner and Allen should be brought up as well given that Dulles is in their state.

Fair is indeed fair, but Bush Officials haven't been given a fair shake by this commission.


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Conservative and Republicans it is time for us to get in the game and start forcing hands on this.
1 posted on 04/03/2004 10:56:31 AM PST by Trueblackman
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2 posted on 04/03/2004 10:57:17 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Hi Mom! Hi Dad!)
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To: Trueblackman
I like what you've said here and would go one step further.

The Republicans control the House. How the hell did this commission get legs at this time in an election year.

The House leadership is about as impotent as any group of people I have ever seen.
3 posted on 04/03/2004 11:01:56 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Support Free Republic
Hey, you're right! They should appear before the commission, particularly Kerry ~ he's the one that's got Hale Bogg's mysterious (and deadly) plane crash hanging over his head.

I dunno' about Teddy ~ doesn't he specialize in bridges?

4 posted on 04/03/2004 11:02:28 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Trueblackman; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; knews_hound; ...
A well deserved bump and ping.
5 posted on 04/03/2004 11:03:44 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Trueblackman
I'm of a bipartisan frame of mind here.

I would march every member of the Congress who had a seat up there and ask them why they did not declare war on Al Qa'ida when they declared war on us in 1996 and 1999.

6 posted on 04/03/2004 11:04:59 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: DoughtyOne
I agree completely. If this is what is means to control Congress then no thank you. These really to pull their heads out and play hard ball.
7 posted on 04/03/2004 11:06:26 AM PST by Taylor42
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To: Trueblackman
>why is it that we as Conservatives and Republicans have not demanded that both Senators John Kerry and Teddy Kennedy appear

Maybe we should ask
Bill and Hillary to speak.
Especially Bill . . .

8 posted on 04/03/2004 11:07:27 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: jwalsh07
I agree completely with you on that.
9 posted on 04/03/2004 11:07:30 AM PST by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never rest and neither do I)
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To: Trueblackman
What Did John Kerry Know and When Did He Know It?

March 21, 2004




by Joe Mariani




Presidential hopeful John Kerry has more guts than most people gave him credit for, after all. It takes unbelievable audacity to attack President Bush for "stonewalling" the 9/11 terrorist attack investigation, when Kerry was personally warned by an FAA agent about the possibility of a terrorist hijacking at Boston's Logan International Airport only months before... and did nothing.

In a letter to Senator John Kerry on 7 May 2001, retired FAA Special Agent Brian Sullivan wrote that the FAA needed to change its focus from hijackings for hostages (the usual purpose until 9/11) to encompass the possibility of terrorists taking over airliners for other, more deadly purposes. "While the FAA has focused on screening for handguns, new threats have emerged, such as chemical and biological weapons," Sullivan wrote. "Do you really think a screener could detect a bottle of liquid explosive, a small battery and a detonator in your carry-on baggage?" Sullivan continued, "And with the concept of jihad, do you think it would be difficult for a determined terrorist to get on a plane and destroy himself and all other passengers? The answers to these questions are obvious."

The night before, a local tv station had broadcast a report concerning security vulnerabilities at Logan Airport featuring Sullivan and another former FAA Special Agent named Steve Elson. The two had waltzed in and out through airport security multiple times with a variety of weapons and gadgets. Many times, their bags weren't even opened, even when "suspicious items" were inside. Agent Sullivan sent Kerry a video of the report following his letter. In a chilling prophecy, he encouraged the Senator to "[t]hink what the result would be of a coordinated attack which took down several domestic flights on the same day." In the last week of July, Kerry's office finally sent Sullivan a reply saying that the video had been forwarded to the Department of Transportation. Less than two months later, American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175 were hijacked after taking off from the same Logan International Airport and flown into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in NYC, killing thousands.

Was this the famous "alarm" John Kerry claims to have "sounded... on terrorism years before 9/11" in his television commercials -- sending a video to the DoT mere months beforehand? Anyone with money for postage could have done as much. Isn't it possible that a Senator with a direct warning from a former FAA agent could -- and should -- have done much more? While it's true that few people would immediately leap into action on a warning alone, most people lack the hypocritical arrogance to criticise others for not doing so when they hadn't themselves.

Kerry has recently attacked President Bush for daring to spend time campaigning for his own re-election instead of answering questions before the 9/11 commission. "If the President of the United States can find time to go to a rodeo, he can spend more than one hour before the commission," Kerry said. Why is more than an hour necessary? It comes as no surprise that the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (as it's formally known) would be used as yet another political attack on President Bush before too long. Senator Kerry apparently needs to be reminded that he's able to find plenty of time to do everything except the job he's still drawing a hefty paycheck to do, having missed 64% of the Senate roll calls last year. Some might consider that "being AWOL", and call for a minute-by-minute account of his activities while taking money from the public he supposedly serves. Perhaps the Senator can furnish dental records to go along with that.

When will Kerry take his seat before the Commission to answer for his deliberate disregard of vital information concerning the lack of airport security in his very own Senatorial district, at the very airport from which half of the 9/11 attacks were launched?
10 posted on 04/03/2004 11:07:50 AM PST by Howlin (I'm a monthy donor..........wouldn't you like to be a monthly donor, too?)
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To: Trueblackman
Enters this opinion piece:

THE WARNING KERRY IGNORED
By PAUL SPERRY

NY POST

March 15, 2004 -- Sen. John Kerry boasts how he "sounded the alarm on terrorism years before 9/ 11," referring to his 1997 book "The New War." Too bad he didn't blast it when it really counted - four months before the hijackings, when he was hand-delivered evidence of serious security breaches at Logan International Airport, with specific warnings that terrorists could exploit them.

Former FAA security officials say the Massachusetts senator had the power to prevent at least the Boston hijackings and save the World Trade Center and thousands of lives, yet he failed to take effective action after they gave him a prophetic warning that his state's main airport was vulnerable to multiple hijackings.

"He just did the Pontius Pilate thing and passed the buck" on back through the federal bureaucracy, said Brian Sullivan, a retired FAA special agent from the Boston area who in May 2001 personally warned Kerry that Logan was ripe for a "jihad" suicide operation possibly involving "a coordinated attack."

Rewind to May 6, 2001. That night, a Boston TV station (Fox-25) aired reporter Deborah Sherman's story on an undercover investigation at Logan that Sullivan and another retired agent helped set up. In nine of 10 tries, a crew got knives and other weapons through security checkpoints - including the very ones the 9/11 hijackers would later exploit.

The next day, Sullivan fired off a two-page letter to Kerry highlighting the systemic failures.

"With the concept of jihad, do you think it would be difficult for a determined terrorist to get on a plane and destroy himself and all other passengers?" he warned. "Think what the result would be of a coordinated attack which took down several domestic flights on the same day. With our current screening, this is more than possible. It is almost likely." The toll from such an attack would be economic, as well as human, he predicted with chilling accuracy.

Sullivan followed up by having the undercover videotape hand-delivered to Kerry's office.

More than 11 weeks later, Kerry finally replied to his well-informed and anxious constituent. "I have forwarded your tape to the Department of Transportation's Office of Inspector General [DOT OIG]," he said in a brief July 24, 2001, letter, a copy of which I've obtained.

Yet Sullivan had made it clear in his letter that going to his old agency was a dead end. He and other agents had complained about security lapses for years and got nowhere. "The DOT OIG has become an ineffective overseer of the FAA," he told Kerry. Sullivan suggested he show the tape to peers on committees with FAA oversight. He even volunteered to testify before them.

But he never heard from Kerry again.

At that point, Steve Elson, the other agent who'd teamed up on the TV sting, decided to take a crack at the junior senator.

A fiery ex-Navy Seal, Elson spent three years as part of an elite FAA unit called the Red Team, which did covert testing of airport security across the country, before retiring as a field agent in Houston. He offered to fly to Washington at his own expense to give Kerry a document-backed presentation about the "facade of security" at Logan and other major airports.

But a Kerry aide said not to bother. "You're not a constituent," Elson was told just a few weeks before the hijackings. He went ballistic, warning that if Kerry didn't act soon he'd risk the lives of planeloads of his actual constituents. That warning now looks like prophecy: At least 82 Kerry constituents were murdered aboard American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175.

"Enhanced security would have prevented the hijackings, virtually without question," Elson now insists. If nothing else, it might have discouraged ringleader Mohamed Atta, who monitored security procedures at Logan weeks before the hijackings.

Yet the warnings apparently did stick in Kerry's mind: In the days after 9/11, Kerry told the Boston Globe that he'd triggered an undercover probe of Logan security by the General Accounting Office in June 2001.

But he wrote Sullivan no such thing in his July letter, stating only that he passed his warning and tape on to Transportation, not GAO. And GAO, though it is the investigative arm of Congress, didn't seem to know what the senator was talking about. The agency had tested security at two airports before 9/11, but neither one was Logan. And Kerry confessed he didn't know the outcome of the probe he says he triggered.

Some follow-up, senator.

Sullivan and Elson, joined by aviation-security experts David Forbes and Andrew Thomas, want to see Kerry hauled before the 9/11 Commission to answer questions about what he knew about Logan's lapses, and specifically what he did about them, before that fateful day. It's a reasonable request - especially since Kerry has complained that President Bush will only give the panel an hour of his time.

Where was Kerry's sense of urgency? Where was his leadership? These are fair questions to ask of someone vying for Bush's job.

"We don't have to wait for a tragedy to occur to act," Sullivan urged Kerry in his letter. But tragically, that's exactly what happened - at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, and on both sides of the aisle.

Paul Sperry is a Washington investigative reporter and author of "Crude Politics."

http://nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/20808.htm
11 posted on 04/03/2004 11:08:19 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Trueblackman
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1097852/posts

THE WARNING KERRY IGNORED
12 posted on 04/03/2004 11:09:39 AM PST by Howlin (I'm a monthy donor..........wouldn't you like to be a monthly donor, too?)
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!
13 posted on 04/03/2004 11:10:11 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: theFIRMbss
Oh yes I think we should be heard on this issue, I think it might be time for a day of open protest just like the liberals do of calling radio talk show host, CSPAN and mass faxes to the US Capitol. Clinton, Gore, Kerry and Kennedy must and should be made to appear before the 9-11 commission.
14 posted on 04/03/2004 11:10:12 AM PST by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never rest and neither do I)
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To: DoughtyOne
House leadership is about as impotent as any group of people I have ever seen

I disagree! Have you checked out the SENATE LEADERSHIP lately. They are 'hands' down the most cowardly bunch of RINOS ever. The liberal Bob Dole makes these guys look like Socialists.

15 posted on 04/03/2004 11:10:19 AM PST by PISANO (Our troops...... will NOT tire...will NOT falter.....and WILL NOT FAIL!!!)
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To: Trueblackman
why is it that we as Conservatives and Republicans have not demanded that both Senators John Kerry and Teddy Kennedy appear publicly before the 9-11 commission as well

Well I'll give you a bttt for a good idea,
despite the fact that I can't stomach a public appearance by either of those two idiots.

16 posted on 04/03/2004 11:11:46 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Howlin
Thank you for keeping us all informed and in the loop, it is time to get this information out to our allies in the press. Rush Sean and other should be hearing your voice and demands that Kerry Kennedy Warner Allen Clinton and Gore all appear before the commssion.
17 posted on 04/03/2004 11:12:53 AM PST by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never rest and neither do I)
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To: Willie Green
No they should be made to answer the questions too.
18 posted on 04/03/2004 11:13:58 AM PST by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never rest and neither do I)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Burn up Senate and House Fax Machines with this information, get it out there and be faithful in doing it.
19 posted on 04/03/2004 11:15:29 AM PST by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never rest and neither do I)
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To: Trueblackman
BUMP
20 posted on 04/03/2004 11:20:29 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Become a FR Monthly Donor ... Kerry thread archive @ /~normsrevenge)
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To: Howlin
What Did John Kerry Know and When Did He Know It?

A very impressive little piece.

21 posted on 04/03/2004 11:23:22 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: theFIRMbss
Exactly.
22 posted on 04/03/2004 11:26:53 AM PST by TOUGH STOUGH (A vote for George W. Bush IS a vote for principle!)
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To: Trueblackman
No one has benefited from plane crashes as much as John Kerry and the Democrats in general.

Kerry scooped up a rich wife due to a plane crash. I don't know where Teddy was at the time.

Kerry would have lost to Wellstone in the 2004 Dem primaries and inside polls showed Wellstone losing to Coleman for the senate. Teddy was in Minnesota when Wellstone's plane crashed.

Kerry wouldn't get any mileage out of the "JFK" initials if junior hadn't went down in a plane crash, Teddy was the nearest person from where the plane went down.

9/11 speaks for itself. Kerry buried critical reports regarding security at Logan. Not sure where Teddy was on that day.

John Ashcroft lost his senate seat because of a "ghost candidate" gimmick due to a plane crash which allowed the Dems to take the majority. Not sure where Teddy was on that day.

No, I'm not saying they caused these "accidents"...good heavens, not that!
23 posted on 04/03/2004 11:27:43 AM PST by Jim_Curtis
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To: Trueblackman
No they should be made to answer the questions too.

Fine by me.
But they're still gonna make me nauseous, no matter what they say.

24 posted on 04/03/2004 11:27:52 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Trueblackman
BUMP

For an excellent thread.

Some of this documented information should be excerpted for a Bush Campaign Ad.
25 posted on 04/03/2004 11:44:07 AM PST by Syncro
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To: Jim_Curtis; Mudboy Slim; iceskater; sultan88; jla; AdSimp; maxwell; Corin Stormhands
No one has benefited from plane crashes as much as John Kerry and the Democrats in general.

RINOs too!

Don't forget that RINO Big Jawn Wannah would not be the Senator fron Virginia if Richard Obenshain hadn't been killed in a plane crash in 1978.

26 posted on 04/03/2004 11:46:52 AM PST by P8riot (A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body.)
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To: Trueblackman
The Airlines bear responsibility as well..as does the Gore Commission. Don't you wonder why those ever so present in the past blend into the background during these investigations and leading up to it..?

Remember this? The Gore Commission

..."delays from bag matching would "impact the whole integrity of the system," the association and its member airlines launched a full-bore lobbying campaign. They met with the commission staff. They made the rounds on Capitol Hill. They leaned on members of Congress, who in turn pressured the commission to back off. And although Kamarck insists that "the vice president never met with the industry," officials at the Air Transport Association recall otherwise, noting that their president, Carol Hallett, had plenty of access to the White House. "She would routinely see Gore all the time," Doubrava says.

Eight days after Kamarck's press briefing, Gore sent a letter to Hallett backing off on his call for an immediate move toward full bag match. "I want to make it very clear that it is not the intent of this administration or of the commission to create a hardship for the air transportation industry or to cause inconvenience to the traveling public," he wrote. Instead of sticking with the original plan to match all bags to passengers, Gore began calling for an industry-backed alternative, in which a computerized profiling system would monitor suspicious travelers and remove their bags if they failed to board planes. The new plan was blasted by security experts, who concluded it would be simple for terrorists to evade the profiling system."

..."The rule-making process is very easily manipulated by someone with a lot of money and expertise, and the airlines have that in spades," says Rep. Peter DeFazio, an Oregon Democrat. "Anything that would cost them money they could fight, and delay rule making for years and years."

....The FBI and CIA continued to warn the commission that serious holes remained in the security system, and Cummock urged her colleagues not to back off. When she pressed for more meaningful give-and-take on security issues, a commission staff member pulled her aside and told her that the Christmas decorations had been put up at the White House. "If you'd like," she recalls the aide telling her, "we could arrange a VIP tour."

(..Victoria Cummock, who had lost her husband over Lockerbie. The Miami widow, who had become an advocate for air crash victims, flew to New York to meet the families of TWA passengers. In a hangar at Kennedy Airport, she met with President Clinton, who invited her to serve on the brand-new White House Commission on Aviation Safety and Security. The commission would be chaired by Vice President Al Gore, lending it considerable credibility and power. It would include scientists, military experts, and high-ranking government officials. "My heart sang," Cummock says, recalling her conversation with the president. "I thought, 'Oh my God, thank God.'")

The nation's airlines wasted no time in expressing their thanks. The day after Gore's letter, TWA sent $40,000 to the Democratic National Committee, which was headed into the final weeks of the 1996 campaign. A month later, American Airlines came through with three contributions of $83,333 made over five days—a $250,000 burst of beneficence that it has never again matched. In the last days of the push to re-elect Clinton and Gore, Democratic Party committees also raked in $83,000 from Northwest Airlines, $117,465 from United Airlines, and $15,000 from US Airways. In all, the major airlines poured more than $500,000 into various Democratic soft-money accounts in the weeks following Gore's letter—two and a half times what they gave Republicans during the same period.

And remember one of our favorite Dem. Senators's wives provided most handsomely for her family in her lobbying for the airlines.

Cuts from:http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2002/01/airlines.html

27 posted on 04/03/2004 11:53:31 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: DoughtyOne
The House leadership is about as impotent as any group of people I have ever seen.

Other than the Senate leadership one supposes.

28 posted on 04/03/2004 12:02:21 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Trueblackman
I don't think the fact that the planes were out of Logan speaks specifically to Kerry's responsibility over the matter.
29 posted on 04/03/2004 12:02:41 PM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Hey D1!

Not to disagree (obviously disagreeing here...) BUT, when you said:

The Republicans control the House. How the hell did this commission get legs at this time in an election year.

The House leadership is about as impotent as any group of people I have ever seen.

Ever thought that what we have here is "terrorism" being debated and specifically 9-11 where Bush truly shines. By "yielding" to the left for a kangaroo court oops..."commission" the war and terrorism is in the public eye...a war Kerry voted for (before voting against the funding).

As crappy as the RATS get, it is better this fight than the fight on the economy (where the RATS talk down the economy...this is only a second tier sidebar now).

We're doing great here...

DD

30 posted on 04/03/2004 12:12:42 PM PST by DiamondDon1 (Card carrying Member VRWC)
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To: Trueblackman
I AGREE!
31 posted on 04/03/2004 12:19:58 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Trueblackman
I find it hard to believe I spent 5 minutes getting into this "discussion" board. What a group of crybaby RRRRRRRR. I cannot even pretend surprise, however, that when the entire country wants to hear from Dr. Rice, immediately, every ignorant, cowtown, wanna-be, finds 100 democrats to question. If I were interested enough to play "why don't we", we'd be here forever and you are all just too narrow-minded and ignorant. Let's start with "why is GDimwit in the Whitehouse to begin with?" Because he, as pimp for the gigantic big business corps whores, BOUGHT his way in. Everyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size knows that. So take you ridiculous whining someplace else. November will show you just what real Americans want and it won't be the dimwit you people defied our Constitution to stick in there. What GOOD has this man done?? NONE!!!!
32 posted on 04/03/2004 12:27:39 PM PST by nanared11 (1angryredhead)
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To: HitmanNY
I don't think the fact that the planes were out of Logan speaks specifically to Kerry's responsibility over the matter.

On that fine point you are correct, but consider that he was warned about both the lax security and the imminent threat and probable consequence. And what did he do... nothing, zip, zero. He forwarded the material, to the very institution that was at fault, the FAA.

I happened to testify before the Presidential commission on aviation security and terrorism in 1990, following the PN 103 disaster. This one was pre Clinton. I testified then and gave supporting testimony that the FAA's testing protocols and processes were corrupt. Nothing changed.

Kerry had/has the attitude that terrorism is not that big of a deal, so did the airline industry until 9/11.

33 posted on 04/03/2004 12:38:18 PM PST by There's millions of'em (Its an artistic difference... The terrorist see themselves as alive, we see them as dead.)
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To: nanared11
Well and we thought liberals wanted the truth and now they complain when you suggest we put partisanship aside and ask everyone be brought before the 9-11 commission.
34 posted on 04/03/2004 1:06:22 PM PST by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never rest and neither do I)
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To: Trueblackman
At Rush's website he had an article about how Gore stopped the airport/airline improvements - to get campaign donations.
35 posted on 04/03/2004 1:34:44 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: P8riot; Jim_Curtis; Mudboy Slim; iceskater; sultan88; jla; AdSimp; maxwell; Corin Stormhands; ...
'No one has benefited from plane crashes as much as John Kerry and the Democrats in general.
RINOs too!'

Yup!...both RepubRats & DemonRats...

'September 11th And The Bush Administration' - Compelling Evidence for Complicity

...So, you ask what's The Agenda?...

'THE GRAND CHESSBOARD - American Primacy And It's Geo-strategic Imperatives' - Zbigniew Brzezinski and the CFR's War Plans In a 1997 Book ("A Blueprint for World Dictatorship...,")

...and you say 'NWO - that's un-American'...

'Global “Peak Oil” Crash and related geo-political events...

36 posted on 04/03/2004 2:50:11 PM PST by harbingr ('Islam, the oldest & most persistent threat to Western civilization.',oh, corrupt NWO politicos, too)
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To: harbingr
Why are you pinging me to this BS?
37 posted on 04/03/2004 4:21:51 PM PST by Howlin (I'm a monthy donor..........wouldn't you like to be a monthly donor, too?)
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To: harbingr
2) There is incontrovertible evidence that the US Air Force all across the country was comprehensively "stood down" on the morning of September 11th.

Prove that one fact and maybe we'll listen to the rest of what you have to say.

And not from any BS tinfoil hat web site.

38 posted on 04/03/2004 4:24:22 PM PST by Howlin (I'm a monthy donor..........wouldn't you like to be a monthly donor, too?)
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To: harbingr
Thanks
39 posted on 04/03/2004 4:32:34 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: harbingr
Oh, brother. A wacko.
40 posted on 04/03/2004 4:33:44 PM PST by Peach
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To: Howlin; Peach; fight_truth_decay
'2) There is incontrovertible evidence that the US Air Force all across the country was comprehensively "stood down" on the morning of September 11th.
Prove that one fact and maybe we'll listen to the rest of what you have to say'

...well..

'The 9/11 USAF Stand Down'

AF Spokesman Says FAA DID Issue Alert IMMEDIATELY On 911 - Air Force Was Prevented From Scrambling

Air Defenses Stood Down On 911 AFTER ATC Alerts Given

the "Stand Down" of the Trillion Dollar Air Force proves that 9/11 was not an "intelligence failure"

41 posted on 04/03/2004 5:09:52 PM PST by harbingr ('Islam, the oldest & most persistent threat to Western civilization.',oh, corrupt NWO politicos, too)
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To: harbingr
ROFLMAO.

No, no. I meant with a real web site with real news.

You do understand don't you that I could start a web site that says your a pedophile and send people to that. It's not proof.
42 posted on 04/03/2004 5:12:43 PM PST by Peach
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To: harbingr; Peach
ROFLMOA.

That first web site is Michael Rivero's.

I hope it won't offend you if I don't give much credence to your "facts."

Got anything CREDIBLE?
43 posted on 04/03/2004 5:13:35 PM PST by Howlin (I'm a monthy donor..........wouldn't you like to be a monthly donor, too?)
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To: Howlin
I like the 4th site the best...but here's a few More you could check out...

Google Web Results 1 - 10 of about 190,000 for
'9-11' ; 'us air force' ; 'stand down'. (0.30 seconds)

(Seems like there's a Lot of 'Smoke' out there...must be a Fire...)

44 posted on 04/03/2004 5:26:59 PM PST by harbingr ('Islam, the oldest & most persistent threat to Western civilization.',oh, corrupt NWO politicos, too)
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To: harbingr
Well, I got waylayed on the one that had the articles about how the Jews are taking revenge on Germany and all that crap.

Bush being told the second tower had been hit He stayed in a second grade classroom for almost another half hour instead of performing his ostensible duties as Commander-in-Chief.

That is a demonstrable lie; flat out. The only people saying that are Democrats and liberals.

He was told at 9:06 a.m.; he was out of there AND on all the television stations by 9:30 a.m.

45 posted on 04/03/2004 5:30:12 PM PST by Howlin (I'm a monthy donor..........wouldn't you like to be a monthly donor, too?)
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To: Howlin
It's scary out there, what people believe.

There should be a competency test given prior to allowing people to vote.
46 posted on 04/03/2004 5:32:00 PM PST by Peach
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To: Peach
I would have thought that a site like Free Republic wouldn't have these whackjobs that believe that crab.

Ithought we were all interested in the truth.
47 posted on 04/03/2004 5:33:44 PM PST by Howlin (I'm a monthy donor..........wouldn't you like to be a monthly donor, too?)
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To: Howlin
I know it. Why people like this are allowed to post is beyond me.
48 posted on 04/03/2004 5:34:15 PM PST by Peach
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To: HitmanNY
Did you read the supporting article about Kerry being warned of such a thing happening at Logan?
49 posted on 04/03/2004 5:41:53 PM PST by ladyinred (Monthly donors don't have to think! Become one now and veg out!)
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To: Peach
'Why people like this are allowed to post is beyond me.'

From your site:
"The only thing necessary to insure the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

I say:
'A man is never so blind as the one who Will Not see'

50 posted on 04/03/2004 5:50:23 PM PST by harbingr ('Islam, the oldest & most persistent threat to Western civilization.',oh, corrupt NWO politicos, too)
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