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The question that all Conservatives and Republicans have failed to ask about 9-11.
myself ^ | 3 April 2004 | Trueblackman

Posted on 04/03/2004 10:56:30 AM PST by Trueblackman

Give the demands of liberals and democrats for Dr. Rice to appear publicly before the commission looking into 9-11, why is it that we as Conservatives and Republicans have not demanded that both Senators John Kerry and Teddy Kennedy appear publicly before the 9-11 commission as well, given the fact that both planes that struck the World Trade Center Towers came out of Boston's Logan Airport?

I remember Logan being ranked almost dead last in security and demands from the FAA that Logan improve security, now the questions that need to be asked are, 1) Was security at the airport ever improved as demanded by the FAA? 2)If not what role or infulence did the union have on local, state and federal officials? and 3)Where either of the senators aware of the FAA demand for improved security and did they seek to delay or forgo the FAA Demands at the behest of unions?

I think these are fair questions to be asked of both men and in fact I think Senators Warner and Allen should be brought up as well given that Dulles is in their state.

Fair is indeed fair, but Bush Officials haven't been given a fair shake by this commission.


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To: Howlin; Peach; fight_truth_decay
'2) There is incontrovertible evidence that the US Air Force all across the country was comprehensively "stood down" on the morning of September 11th.
Prove that one fact and maybe we'll listen to the rest of what you have to say'

...well..

'The 9/11 USAF Stand Down'

AF Spokesman Says FAA DID Issue Alert IMMEDIATELY On 911 - Air Force Was Prevented From Scrambling

Air Defenses Stood Down On 911 AFTER ATC Alerts Given

the "Stand Down" of the Trillion Dollar Air Force proves that 9/11 was not an "intelligence failure"

41 posted on 04/03/2004 5:09:52 PM PST by harbingr ('Islam, the oldest & most persistent threat to Western civilization.',oh, corrupt NWO politicos, too)
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To: harbingr
ROFLMAO.

No, no. I meant with a real web site with real news.

You do understand don't you that I could start a web site that says your a pedophile and send people to that. It's not proof.
42 posted on 04/03/2004 5:12:43 PM PST by Peach
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To: harbingr; Peach
ROFLMOA.

That first web site is Michael Rivero's.

I hope it won't offend you if I don't give much credence to your "facts."

Got anything CREDIBLE?
43 posted on 04/03/2004 5:13:35 PM PST by Howlin (I'm a monthy donor..........wouldn't you like to be a monthly donor, too?)
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To: Howlin
I like the 4th site the best...but here's a few More you could check out...

Google Web Results 1 - 10 of about 190,000 for
'9-11' ; 'us air force' ; 'stand down'. (0.30 seconds)

(Seems like there's a Lot of 'Smoke' out there...must be a Fire...)

44 posted on 04/03/2004 5:26:59 PM PST by harbingr ('Islam, the oldest & most persistent threat to Western civilization.',oh, corrupt NWO politicos, too)
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To: harbingr
Well, I got waylayed on the one that had the articles about how the Jews are taking revenge on Germany and all that crap.

Bush being told the second tower had been hit He stayed in a second grade classroom for almost another half hour instead of performing his ostensible duties as Commander-in-Chief.

That is a demonstrable lie; flat out. The only people saying that are Democrats and liberals.

He was told at 9:06 a.m.; he was out of there AND on all the television stations by 9:30 a.m.

45 posted on 04/03/2004 5:30:12 PM PST by Howlin (I'm a monthy donor..........wouldn't you like to be a monthly donor, too?)
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To: Howlin
It's scary out there, what people believe.

There should be a competency test given prior to allowing people to vote.
46 posted on 04/03/2004 5:32:00 PM PST by Peach
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To: Peach
I would have thought that a site like Free Republic wouldn't have these whackjobs that believe that crab.

Ithought we were all interested in the truth.
47 posted on 04/03/2004 5:33:44 PM PST by Howlin (I'm a monthy donor..........wouldn't you like to be a monthly donor, too?)
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To: Howlin
I know it. Why people like this are allowed to post is beyond me.
48 posted on 04/03/2004 5:34:15 PM PST by Peach
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To: HitmanNY
Did you read the supporting article about Kerry being warned of such a thing happening at Logan?
49 posted on 04/03/2004 5:41:53 PM PST by ladyinred (Monthly donors don't have to think! Become one now and veg out!)
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To: Peach
'Why people like this are allowed to post is beyond me.'

From your site:
"The only thing necessary to insure the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

I say:
'A man is never so blind as the one who Will Not see'

50 posted on 04/03/2004 5:50:23 PM PST by harbingr ('Islam, the oldest & most persistent threat to Western civilization.',oh, corrupt NWO politicos, too)
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To: harbingr
'A man is never so blind as the one who Will Not see'

Er ... that's the point, sport. Take a look at your favorite proof:

On a newsgroup a former Pentagon Air Force Traffic controller writes: blah, blah, blah

Can't you understand that a nerdy sixteen year old kid could have made that claim? What the heck is a "Pentagon Air Force Traffic Controller", anyway? Google that phrase, and see what you get ... Bwahahaha

Finding a hundred Google hits, with each site copying another, is not proof. The fact is, you want to believe so much that you will not filter the "evidence".

51 posted on 04/03/2004 6:07:46 PM PST by watchin
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To: watchin
'Finding a hundred Google hits, with each site copying another, is not proof. The fact is, you want to believe so much that you will not filter the "evidence".

I see what you mean, but, to paraphrase a detestable DemonRat, 'the seriousness of the charge and the preponderance of anomalies requires all of our investigation efforts to find the Truth'...

OTOH, you true-believing Bushies want to believe so much that you want to sweep everthing under the 'rug'. You are the alter-ego of the despised DemonRats...ie:

Ques: are you Really interested in the Truth...even If implicates your Party? IMHO, I don't see any evidence of that. I am a Conservative, but I cannot support the Republicans when all I see are RepubRats and NWO evidence Everywhere.

52 posted on 04/03/2004 6:27:47 PM PST by harbingr ('Islam, the oldest & most persistent threat to Western civilization.',oh, corrupt NWO politicos, too)
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To: watchin; Howlin; Peach; fight_truth_decay; ladyinred
I believe this might provide your 'Credible Smoking Gun'...

'Stand Down · Was 9/11 Lack of Air Defense Deliberate?'

53 posted on 04/03/2004 6:42:58 PM PST by harbingr ('Islam, the oldest & most persistent threat to Western civilization.',oh, corrupt NWO politicos, too)
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To: harbingr; Peach
FGS, why are you insulting my intelligence with all these whacko web sites?

Hell, this one says

Historical Revisionism

right at the very top of the page.

Can't you find anything KNOWN TO BE CREDIBLE to back up your claims?

54 posted on 04/03/2004 6:46:55 PM PST by Howlin (I'm a monthy donor..........wouldn't you like to be a monthly donor, too?)
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To: harbingr
Look. If the USAF had intercepted those hijacked planes - those commercial planes full of innocent civilians - and shot them down, what would things be like today?

The dems/libs/socialists would be screeching that the Republicans are taking over the country by force. Any talk of terrorists flying into buildings would be brushed off as sheer nonsense, since such an attack would violate the teachings of islam.

Air traffic would have ground to a halt, wrecking the economy, Tom Daschle would be "saddened and concerned", and the elite media would have long since called for impeachment.

There would STILL be a 911 commission, the dems would STILL be blaming Bush, terrorists would STILL hate us, and conspiracy nuts would STILL be trying to link the whole thing to the "NWO", quoting imaginary "pentagon air traffic controllers" to prove their point.
55 posted on 04/03/2004 7:13:19 PM PST by watchin
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To: Howlin
'Can't you find anything KNOWN TO BE CREDIBLE to back up your claims?'

'20 Smoking Guns: The 9/11 Military/Psyops Attack'

The Sources for above:

Echelon spy network also gave British and German intelligence clear information that terrorists were going to hijack commercial planes and use them to attack symbols of American culture;
Sources - MDW US Military Website - Associated Press - CNN - Newsmax - LA Times - Biz Report

56 posted on 04/03/2004 7:34:49 PM PST by harbingr ('Islam, the oldest & most persistent threat to Western civilization.',oh, corrupt NWO politicos, too)
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To: harbingr; Howlin
harbingr - I see you've been around FR for a while. We have a few nutjobs around here but few are as ill as you seem to be.

Please go join DU where they actually are proud to believe the crap that you are posting.

I'd appreciate it if you do not post to me again. The stuff you believe makes me ill.
57 posted on 04/03/2004 7:38:52 PM PST by Peach
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To: harbingr
Yup!...both RepubRats & DemonRats...

'September 11th And The Bush Administration' - Compelling Evidence for Complicity

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You must be one of those LoonyRats. But to be fair, I do think one famous member on the Bush team, who has since been retired, should be investigated thoroughly.
58 posted on 04/03/2004 7:50:48 PM PST by Jim_Curtis (Why does Fallujah still exist?)
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To: watchin
excerpt from Post #56...

(6) 'Pakistan ISI Director General Mahmud Ahmad instructed Ahmad Umar Sheikh to hotwire $100,000 to the 9/11 lead hijacker, Mohammad Atta.
On September 11th, Ahmad was a guest of former clandestine CIA officer and CFR member Rep. Porter Goss and Skull and Bones/CFR member Senator Bob Graham. Since September 4th, he had met with top brass at the CIA, the Pentagon and the White House, including Colin Powell, Richard Armitage, Joseph Biden and George Tenet.
Condoleezza Rice lied in a May 16th 2002 press conference when she claimed ignorance of Ahmad's visit and the $100,000 transfer. Ahmad had already resigned from the ISI and the FBI had confirmed the circumstances behind this. Rice stated "I have not seen that report, and he was certainly not meeting with me."
What was the money man behind the terrorists doing in the halls of the US government before, during and after 9/11?
This is just one example of the firm alliance running through the CIA, which in turn controls the ISI, which in turn controls Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda.'

Sources - Times of India - Global Research

59 posted on 04/03/2004 7:51:55 PM PST by harbingr ('Islam, the oldest & most persistent threat to Western civilization.',oh, corrupt NWO politicos, too)
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To: Jim_Curtis; watchin; Howlin
from Link @Post #56...

5) Newsweek twice reported that top Pentagon officials had got a warning of the impending attack on September 10th, and cancelled their flights for the next day. This confirms that these officials knew both the locations of the imminent attack and the method of using jetliners as bombs.
"On Sept. 10, NEWSWEEK has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly cancelled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns." "NEWSWEEK has learned that while U.S. intelligence received no specific warning, the state of alert had been high during the past two weeks, and a particularly urgent warning may have been received the night before the attacks, causing some top Pentagon brass to cancel a trip. Why that same information was not available to the 266 people who died aboard the four hijacked commercial aircraft may become a hot topic on the Hill."

Sources - Newsweek September 24th - Newsweek September 13th

60 posted on 04/03/2004 7:58:54 PM PST by harbingr ('Islam, the oldest & most persistent threat to Western civilization.',oh, corrupt NWO politicos, too)
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