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Housewife Who Stoned Sons Found Not Guilty
http://www.foxnews.com/ ^ | 4/3/04 | http://www.foxnews.com/

Posted on 04/03/2004 6:00:46 PM PST by zook

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:39:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]


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To: deport
Mrs. Laney admitted killing two of her sons by bashing their heads with rocks. She struck and maimed a third son. She said God told her to kill the boys as a test of faith.

Sounds like she's been listening to Robert Tilton.
101 posted on 04/04/2004 12:02:59 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: dandelion
This is horrible. I have not read one article claiming that this woman had a history of mental illness. Not a single one. And the method she used to kill was bloody. The surviving child will be disabled for life. In the Andrea Yates case, she DID have a history of severe mental illness and was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic, and still got jail time. I think that this woman is an opportunist who found a "get out of jail free" card. This verdict is sad beyond words.
102 posted on 04/04/2004 12:17:21 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: dandelion
Maybe the jurors are abortion "rights" backers and could not bring themselves to put to death anyone who just waited a few years after birth for performing her own abortions via stoning. At least she did not stoop to saline solutions!!!

And who said TX is tough on crime???? It's all part of the Lone Star myth if they did.
103 posted on 04/04/2004 1:26:25 PM PDT by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Yes, and Tyler, Texas, is supposed to be near to the "heart" of Texas conservatism too!!!

Will ther real Tyler, Texas, stand up?
104 posted on 04/04/2004 1:27:53 PM PDT by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
The prevailing attitude that a mother just wouldn't do something like this unless she were crazy

Yes indeed, and yet every abortion stops a beating heart and is procured BY WOMEN too!!
105 posted on 04/04/2004 1:29:25 PM PDT by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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To: elbucko
I've posted those statistics along with stats from the Justice Department many times on here. It's still amazing to see people who say only men kill kids when the facts speak otherwise.
106 posted on 04/04/2004 1:58:24 PM PDT by Brytani (Politics: n. from Greek; "poli"-many; "tics"-ugly, bloodsucking parasites.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
In Planned Parenthood's eyes, the woman was exercising her right to "choose".
107 posted on 04/04/2004 2:35:39 PM PDT by Kuksool (9-11 happened when the RATS controlled the Senate)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I wonder how the jury and media would react to a woman supposedly "mentally ill" who killed an abortion doctor and a gay man?
108 posted on 04/04/2004 2:41:51 PM PDT by Kuksool (9-11 happened when the RATS controlled the Senate)
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To: Brytani
I've posted those statistics along with stats from the Justice Department many times on here. It's still amazing to see people who say only men kill kids when the facts speak otherwise.

That's not the only paradox that concerns children's safety. Mom's murder their kids more then dad, and mom's kill more children up to age 16 than guns do, when auto accident's are factored in and "mom" caused the accident. I concede that gang members are dangerous to children up to age 18, but not age 21 that the CDC and "Mil Mom March" include in their misleading statistics.

Alas, we will never solve these problems if it is more politically profitable to abuse the data to advance an agenda. But the socialist/feminist's agenda to collectivize the society of the U.S. is more important than facts. If some kids die in the process on the way to feminist utopia, I guess that's the price of the future.

109 posted on 04/04/2004 2:43:57 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Kuksool
I wonder how the jury and media would react to a woman supposedly "mentally ill" who killed an abortion doctor and a gay man?

Refrain from trying to make sense out of the senseless. (/sarcasm)

110 posted on 04/04/2004 2:46:59 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: elbucko
You know if opportunistic women can use mental illness as an excuse to commit crimes, then surely people can use women's mental health as an excuse for sexism. After all, a company can deny women employees promotions because of their mental health. Accused rapists can question the mental health of their victims to discredit them. This case opens a can of worms.
111 posted on 04/04/2004 2:53:27 PM PDT by Kuksool (9-11 happened when the RATS controlled the Senate)
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To: Kuksool
Meanwhile, the penalty for speeding is stiffer.
112 posted on 04/04/2004 2:54:05 PM PDT by wingster
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To: FITZ
a father who had previously had committed adultery against his wife, waited until the wife was very sound asleep and then went through the house brutally killing the children after premeditation would be viewed differently.

Where'd you get that part? I don't recall seeing anything about her being an adulteress.
113 posted on 04/04/2004 3:03:26 PM PDT by Xenalyte (in memory of James Edward Peck, my grandfather, who passed on 3/23/04)
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To: Dog Gone
I told Chris Baker and I gotta tell you: please stop with the Pia crap. It makes Yates sound like a little helpless girly-girl. (Or like Pia Zadora, which is certainly a horrendous fate.)
114 posted on 04/04/2004 3:04:19 PM PDT by Xenalyte (in memory of James Edward Peck, my grandfather, who passed on 3/23/04)
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To: Xenalyte
John Wayne Gacy got a middle name. So did Lee Harvey Oswald. Chicks murderers don't get them?
115 posted on 04/04/2004 3:17:22 PM PDT by Dog Gone (End Freepathons. Join the Dollar a Day Club!)
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To: Dog Gone
Wayne and Harvey are good killer middle names. Pia sounds like a stuffed animal. Let's call her Andrea Hillary Yates from here on out.
116 posted on 04/04/2004 3:20:09 PM PDT by Xenalyte (in memory of James Edward Peck, my grandfather, who passed on 3/23/04)
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To: Xenalyte
Okay, that works for me.

I'm not sure Pia sounds like a stuffed animal, though. I think it sounds like something men need to do during a night at a bar in the South.

117 posted on 04/04/2004 3:25:09 PM PDT by Dog Gone (End Freepathons. Join the Dollar a Day Club!)
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To: Dog Gone
Now that you mention it, it sounds a LOT like that!
118 posted on 04/04/2004 3:30:59 PM PDT by Xenalyte (in memory of James Edward Peck, my grandfather, who passed on 3/23/04)
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To: deport
Some people should just not be exposed to the Old Testament before they gain a real understanding of the New Testament.
119 posted on 04/04/2004 4:02:56 PM PDT by EricT. (Californian by birth, Tennessean by choice.)
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To: spunkets
No, but folks around me, particularly my husband, noticed a distinct change in my behavior. I thank God daily that he was the kind of warm and loving man, and so strong, too, to let me talk to him about what I was feeling, how I was reacting, the odd turmoil going on inside me. He bought me a cellphone so I could call him "anytime" I needed to talk, did more than the lion's share of housework and keeping up with the kids, and did everything in his power to help me through it. He burned up sick days and vacation days when my energy was simply depleted. He told me afterwards that if he believed I was ever a threat to the kids, he would have taken them away. It was those many special moments with my kids, loving on them, reading to them, snuggling with them, that got me through.

And the phone calls came in from family and friends almost daily. I realize now they were "checking up" on me, because I was so down in spirits. Friends in the neighborhood also lent a hand, without ever coming out and saying they were lending a hand. When the spell finally broke, people again noticed a distinct change and slowly eased back, letting me take charge of my life once more.

In my opinion, there must have been signs somewhere along the line. Unless you are confronted with some kind of severely traumatic event, the vast majority of people don't move into madness in one giant step.

120 posted on 04/04/2004 10:45:01 PM PDT by TheWriterInTexas (With God's Grace, All Things Are Possible)
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To: TheWriterInTexas
All I know is that my aunt shot and killed her sleeping husband and 6 year old daughter before shooting herself while suffering from ppd (or pp psychosis), and she only mentioned to my grandmother that she was feeling a little down in passing. (She did not kill her 3 month old son.) No one had any clue she was about to do what she did. This happened in l968, so there was not as much known about ppd then. However, there can be little warning as evidenced by my aunt.

In this stoning case, I think the youngest son is around 2? So ppd wouldn't be a factor anyway, right?

121 posted on 04/04/2004 11:17:35 PM PDT by Reddy
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To: Xenalyte
From the other thread:

"Another revelation Tuesday came when Smith County District Attorney Matt Bingham alluded to the deeply religious Pentecostal woman having had an affair. Bingham asked Dietz whether he knew Laney had failed to mention the affair to another doctor who evaluated her."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1108685/posts
122 posted on 04/04/2004 11:58:12 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Kuksool
You know if opportunistic women can use mental illness as an excuse to commit crimes, then surely people can use women's mental health as an excuse for sexism.

Yes --- it seems if every time a woman murders it's just because she went crazy --- but a man is held responsible for his murders because he doesn't have the same tendency to go crazy, then why should child be awarded to mothers in child custody battles?

123 posted on 04/05/2004 12:02:03 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: ladyinred
nope, Double Jeopardy...
124 posted on 04/05/2004 12:04:19 AM PDT by Axenolith
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To: Kuksool
This case opens a can of worms.

And those worms from that can came from the apple that Eve ate in the Garden of Eden, oh so long ago.

I say "Back to the Future" and repeal the 19th. Amendment; women's suffrage. Things may not improve above human nature, but at least it won't have the Constitution's seal of approval.

125 posted on 04/05/2004 12:26:12 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: elbucko
Feminists, the family court system, news media, psychologists and law enforcement have all played into the public perception that mom = good, dad = bad. How else does one explain how a married father can go from a parent to a visitor in over 90% of all cases of divorce?

With that said, I do not believe women are inherently evil or even that the vast majority of women have the ability to kill their children (leave abortion out of the equation).

The fact remains that women do kill children at a high rate then guns, gangs, fathers and strangers. Once people realize that is the case, the pity some may feel for women like Andrea Yates, Susan Smith and this piece of garbage leaves and they see a childs killing for what it really is. Not a sickness, but cold blooded murder.
126 posted on 04/05/2004 1:01:20 AM PDT by Brytani (Politics: n. from Greek; "poli"-many; "tics"-ugly, bloodsucking parasites.)
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To: dougherty
That's what I think too. She certainly expressed her relief at the verdict.

She was evidently deemed sane enough to stand trial. If I had committed these terrible acts during some sort of psychotic episode, then when I was sane, I would have had so much guilt that I would have pled guilty and not gone to trial. She seems to be sane enough to worry about her own well-being.
127 posted on 04/05/2004 5:15:50 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: FITZ
Thanks! Lots of catch-up reading there.
128 posted on 04/05/2004 6:12:59 AM PDT by Xenalyte (in memory of James Edward Peck, my grandfather, who passed on 3/23/04)
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To: hoosierham
Just humanely put to death all murderers and set free all who acted in self-defense.

What would you do with someone who mistakenly (but honestly) believed they were acting in self defense?
129 posted on 04/05/2004 9:55:04 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Cvengr
Yep, she looks like in that picture like she's saying, "they actually bought it."
130 posted on 04/05/2004 10:00:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's only knock and know-all, but I like it.)
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To: don-o
Is it just me, or does anyone else think "Not guilty be reason of insanity" should actually be "Guilty but insane"???? This bugs me to death!!!!
131 posted on 04/05/2004 4:53:22 PM PDT by StarCMC (Kalen is home!!! Kalen is home!!! Thank you for all your prayers and support!!)
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