Sept. 11 commission chairman says findings will be surprising

Bakersfield Californian ^ | 4/4/04 | William C. Mann - AP

[NormsRevenge]

WASHINGTON (AP) - The chairman of the commission looking into the Sept. 11 attacks said Sunday that some of its findings has surprised him and will surprise the public as well.

Thomas H. Kean also said he expects the commission's final report to be published before the November elections, possibly as early as July, even though the White House must clear it for intelligence problems.

The commission's deadline for submitting its report is July 26, extended from May 27 after complaints that the White House was delaying the turnover of necessary materials.

Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey, said he expects no similar foot-dragging as the White House vets the report for security lapses.

"Nobody has any interest in having the report sitting around Washington during the election period and pieces of it leaking out. Nobody has any interest in this thing coming out September or October, in the middle of the election," Kean said.

"So I think it is in the White House's interest, our interest, everybody's interest to get this out in July. And I believe they will."

When it is published, he said, both its findings and its recommendations for preventive action will draw attention.

"I've been surprised by some of what we've found, and so, I think, (the public) will, yes," Kean said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"We will have things in our report on two ends: first the report itself, second the recommendations. We've got some very serious recommendations to make, and I think they'll be something of great value to the American people and also hopefully will make the country safer."

[NormsRevenge]

Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey

Does that mean he is a former governor or a former Republican, now sitting as the head of the "bipartisan" DC version of the Spanish Inquisition?

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[Spotsy]

This just in: The 9/11 Commission will use Richard Clarke's book promoter to plan a comprehensive marketing campaign for their report. Movie rights and scripts are currently in the works.

[MNJohnnie]

Notice all the little editorial comments disguised as news. "Foot dragging" Funny how that term was NEVER applied to the Clinton Whitehouse when they were slow to release material. Funny how National Security concerns are "foot dragging" but planned ofuscation of Clinton President misconduct never were!

[NormsRevenge]

I watched the first couple of minutes of MeeT the Press with Hamilton and Kean and turned it off.. this whole thing has become farcical..

If there are no killer punches to be announced, then the rest is just theatrics intended to misdirect fault for the sorrowful handling of this nations affairs for 8 years.

8 years that wreaked havoc on Our Republic. Our Republic, but not the Republic of China who did quite well, ironically enough.

Could some of the surprising things include evidence of support by some of our "allies" of our sworn enemies? That might include countries like Russia or China or both? hhmmmmm?

[Verginius Rufus]

You must mean the People's Republic of China. The Republic of China is the name of the government which rules Taiwan.

[NormsRevenge]

I stand corrected, Thanks.

My apologies to the legitimate Republic of China. ;-)

[cricket]

Ah yes, the delay. These politicrats are going to read 11,000 pages, right. Clear from their questions so far, few read the info they had.

[templar]

We've got some very serious recommendations to make, and I think they'll be something of great value to the American people and also hopefully will make the country safer.

Hopefully, they will include doing all that is possible to remove Islam in general and Islamics in specific (particularly the ME ones) from our country.

But, I know: that's just wishfull thinking and it aint gonna happen anytime soon.

[Truth29]

Republicans are just no dam*n good at political trench warfare. I am afraid that the Commission has simply become a vehicle to deliver the most damaging report possible to Bush. Clinton will get a by or a deemphasized treatment and the terrorists will take heart from America's divisive and weak response.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

A Must Read:

Who Lost Osama? : Richard Clarke is far tougher on the Clinton failures than advertised.

[Lakeside]

I'm not surprised already. It's been a kangaroo court since the very beginning. I don't know why but it still astounds me the amount of hate & vitriol aimed at this administration.

Yet Clinton can play at being President(mostly for the perks involved) for 8 years and get a pass for treasonous activities. There is no justice in the world...good is bad and bad is "good".

[7.62 x 51mm]

Failed loser, voted-from-office, disgraced ex-governor, Thomas H. Kean (RINO-NJ) heads up this "Hate Bush Bunch". Scumbags, all.

[doug9732]

"Failed loser, voted-from-office, disgraced ex-governor, Thomas H. Kean (RINO-NJ) heads up this "Hate Bush Bunch". Scumbags, all."

Former Governor Tom Kean remains today the most popular politician in the State of New Jersey. Mr. Kean is descended from Robert R. Livingston, one of the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the man resposible for megotiating the Lousiana Purchase. No one in New Jersey doubts that if ex-Governor Kean had wanted a seat in the US Senate, he could long ago easily have claimed it. He prefers life as a college president in New Jersey, with his wife, the former Debbie Du Pont. Their son Tom Kean Jr. is now a State Senator, and a likely future Governor of New Jersey.

[7.62 x 51mm]

"... the most popular politician in the State of New Jersey..."

And you base that upon what? Considering it's all lib-dem scum running that sewer - I lived there for 17yrs - I stand by my statement.

[doug9732]

Correction:
Kean's wife is the former Deborah Bye of Wilmington, Delaware. I believe she is a member of the Du Pont family, and that both she and her husband are independently wealthy.

http://www.depts.drew.edu/pres/tkean/

Here are two quotations from the former Governor:

Higher income taxes are a razor guillotine poised to descend on the bare neck of prosperity.
Thomas H. Kean

The most painful death in all the world is the death of a child. When a child dies, when one child dies-not the 11 per 1,000 we talk about statistically, but the one that a mother held briefly in her arms-he leaves an empty place in a parent's heart that will never heal.
Thomas H. Kean

[Destro]

This is a presidential commission not a congressional one - and Republicans control both estates. So why are we bitching?

[CyberAnt]

I saw Lehman and Roemer on Charlie Rose. Lehman was pretty straight forward about his concerns about Clarke's testimony .. and Roemer surprised me by saying that "the commission was already aware that Clinton ignored the embassy bombings and the Cole bombing".

Maybe these guys are surprised .. but I don't think the general public will be.

[wolf24]

Surprising to who?

[CyberAnt]

Well .. what bothers me more is the fact that the members of the commission will probably not do the reading at all. It will be left to their staff members TO INTERPRET what was said. THIS IS NOT GOOD.

[wolf24]

"Maybe these guys are surprised .. but I don't think the general public will be."

My thoughts exactly---IF they place most of the responsibility where it belongs: with Clinton et al. Any child can look simply at the timeline (Clinton, 8 years; Bush, 7 months) and see where the blame should go. I'm hoping that this is what they are talking about with this talk of a 'suprise.'

This is why I asked in the previous post: who will be surprised? Clinton-backing-leftist-media-types? If so, this is good news. I wouldn't count on it though.

[CyberAnt]

Part of the problem - as I see it - is the repubs keep thinking this current batch of dem leaders are nice guys - and have refused to realize these people have become hateful people - led by Hillary - lusting for power. They think Hillary can get it for them and that's why they're following her.

I contend - this election will dispel that myth FOREVER!!

[doug9732]

Tom Kean is a Republican.
His father was a Republican Congressman.
His grandfather was a Republican US Senator.
His son is the Republican whip of the New Jersey State Senate.
Some people may want to push him out of the Republican party because they do not approve of some of his views. But their leader, George W Bush, does not share that opinion. He appointed Tom Kean because he is a reliable Republican, but with a reputation for honesty. If Kean wanted a cabinet job in Washington he could have that too, but like Karen Hughes he insists on living in his home state.

[cricket]

"Well .. what bothers me more is the fact that the members of the commission will probably not do the reading at all."

If that is the case, this is more a farce than less.

If these folks want the job 'done'; then they should do it. These people have no qualms about interrupting WH business to make the President and his Cabinet 'take the time' to deal with this. If something happens down the line,we will hear: 'what was the President doing ' for G-ds sake?

Well, he was just tying to keep the Dems campaign agenda up front and personal, that's all.

[CyberAnt]

I mentioned the staff, because one of the members of the commission happened to mention the fact that it would staff who would be reading the thousands of pages.

I think the staff will be too young and too inexperienced to really understand what they're reading, and therefore will make some incorrect judgements.

I think that's especially true for the hate-Bush members of the commission. They already have an agenda and will be looking for any minute item they can use to misinterpret the truth.

[cricket]

"They already have an agenda and will be looking for any minute item they can use to misinterpret the truth."

I do not doubt that is the case; having staff read this stuff; I mean; for the most part, our elected Senators/Congressmen do not even read the bills they sign.

Astounding when you think of it. . .a jury; each individual is responsible to know the testimony of the case they are judging. If they do not do their task mindfully; the verdict can be challenged.

And here we have a panel making historic, life-altering judgments, without personally having to make the painstaking inquiry that even a jury is expected to do.

The more I think of this; the more outrageous it becomes!

[cherry]

I agree with you......those long 8 yrs under Clinton who had the backbone of a coward and the integrity of the MOB.....

who let the bombings of the Trade Center and the Cole and the embassies and all the other stuff just go by without so much as a wince.....

sure could bomb those Aspirin factories, though.....

IF America appears weak, and acts weak, then we are percieved as weak....

[Brian_Baldwin]

The 911 "commission" is all about the Democrats using the opportunity with the aid of their friends in the phony liberal news to "put the police on trial". It's what the left always does, because they hate America, hate those who would protect Americans. When criminals (or terrorists) commit their crimes, and it comes before judgement, including useless "commissions", they always turn it on it's head, and put the police on trial, distract those who are trying to do the job of protecting us, and the leftist end that justifies the means is that they intimidate anyone in the future from daring to try and protect us - be it the police or our government. For them, the Democrats and the Left wing media, this isn't about "better protecting Americans", in fact it's exactly the opposite. They put the police on trial, they want to weaken our moral resolve. Period.

[CyberAnt]

"here we have a panel making historic, life-altering judgments, without personally having to make the painstaking inquiry that even a jury is expected to do"

You got it! I'm outraged that these men are turning over this report to their staff - to summarize or whatever.

The only light I have seen is that Roemer said on Charlie Rose, very glibly, that Clinton really dropped the ball, especially with the attacks on the 2 embassies, and the Cole. I was stunned! I was not happy with Roemer's questions and I felt he was very biased and had an attitude with all the repubs.

[cricket]

"The only light I have seen is that Roemer said on Charlie Rose, very glibly, that Clinton really dropped the ball, especially with the attacks on the 2 embassies, and the Cole. I was stunned!"

That is amazing. . .beyond the Liberal 'truth is a rorschach test' analysis.

File the date of that interview. . .

[F16Fighter]

" It's been a kangaroo court since the very beginning."

This much is obvious -- The RATS have made it no secret the GOP would eventually "pay" for impeaching Clinton, and they'll never let up no matter how illigitimate or frivolous the trumped-up charge....

"Yet Clinton can play at being President(mostly for the perks involved) for 8 years and get a pass for treasonous activities. There is no justice in the world...good is bad and bad is 'good'".

And this is how stupid and naive the GOP is; They could have investigated AND impeached Clinton for at least a half-dozen acts of malfeasance and treason, yet were too chicken-sh*t to do anything about it.

Meanwhile Dubya cleans up Bubba's mess and takes the hit.

The GOP ought to wise up and finally spill open the book on Clinton's 8 years of monkey-business and give IT a thorough proctological examination -- BOTH Clintons and the ENTIRE book.

[Lakeside]

It'll never happen and this is why; F.B.I. files (how did they get away with THAT I want to know!)and the consummate talent the Clintons have for lying along with the astonishing naivete of the American people for believing them. Believe me, the Clintons have not wasted the intervening years idle. Being lawyers, I'm certain they have ready answers for every charge leveled against them.

I wish the GOP would have gone after them with a vengeance for what they(Clintons) did to our country. However I don't think it was as a result of stupidity or naivety but their understanding of reality. They would have been painted by a willing press as vigilantes seeking political revenge.

And, again, most of the American people would have bought it. See what they(press/media) are doing with our involvement in Iraq. Slowly, relentlessly they are turning the opinions of people against it.

[PogySailor]

Why is this guy even talking about the findings? I thought they absolutely need to trash..er..question Dr. Rice in public first?

[CyberAnt]

I'm still amazed by what he said, and Lehman didn't say anything to his comments.

Kean says that there are some surprises (at least for him), but I doubt those of us here on FR will be surprised .. I think it will confirm what we already knew or suspected.

Did you hear that Bob Kerrey is already asking for the report to be delayed until AFTER THE ELECTION - that can only mean one thing in my book - this report is not looking good for the Clinton goons. And .. remember, most of those goons are Clinton's former WH people, and they're all consulting now with Kerry.

[cricket]

"Did you hear that Bob Kerrey is already asking for the report to be delayed until AFTER THE ELECTION - that can only mean one thing in my book - this report is not looking good for the Clinton goons. And .. remember, most of those goons are Clinton's former WH people, and they're all consulting now with Kerry."

OMG! Did not hear that. Incredible . . .briar patch theory aside!

The Dems pushed for this; wanted this on Bush's plate for campaign issue and election cycle. . .so do not see how; save by continuing to ask for more 'thousands of pages' while they scream Bush is 'stonewalling'. . .that they can stall this. . .now the Dem/'by-partisans' could drag their feet. . .I don't know. . .but surely this would not work.

With doubts cast aside about Kerry's request; this appears to be some 'good news'! And so very interesting. . .