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Iran declares war on U.S.
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 5th 2004 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 04/05/2004 12:05:32 AM PDT by F14 Pilot

Nobody else is saying it, so, once again, it is left to me to explain what really happened in Iraq yesterday.

Iran declared war on the U.S.

The signs have been there for a long time. I don't know if they have been intentionally ignored by U.S. forces in Iraq, or whether there is some master plan at the Defense Department to deal with this scenario.

All I can tell you is we are now fighting a regional war. Our local opposition in Iraq is being trained, armed and directed with foreign support – by neighboring Iran.

The uprising yesterday was treated in many initial news accounts as a spontaneous uprising directed by Najaf cleric Moktada al-Sadr.

What the other news accounts left out was one significant, but well-established fact: Al-Sadr works for Iran. He is an Iranian agent. His authority comes from Iran.

Last April, an Iranian cleric, Kadhem al-Husseini al-Haeri, issued a religious edict and distributed to Shiite mullahs in Iraq, calling on them "to seize the first possible opportunity to fill the power vacuum in the administration of Iraqi cities."

The edict, or fatwa, issued April 8, 2003, showed that Shiite clerics in Iraq are receiving significant direction from Iran. The edict said that Shiite leaders have to "seize as many positions as possible to impose a fait accompli for any coming government."

"People have to be taught not to collapse morally before the means used by the Great Satan if it stays in Iraq," the fatwa read. "It will try to spread moral decay, incite lust by allowing easy access to stimulating satellite channels and spread debauchery to weaken people's faith."

The fatwa also instructed the cleric's followers to "raise people's awareness of the Great Satan's plans and of the means to abort them."

On April 7, the day American troops effectively toppled Hussein's government by seizing its main seats of power in Baghdad, al-Haeri sent a handwritten letter to the city of Najaf, appointing Moktada al-Sadr as his deputy in Iraq.

Haeri wrote: "We hereby inform you that Mr. Moktada al-Sadr is our deputy and representative in all fatwa affairs."

It added: "His position is my position."

Also last April, WorldNetDaily reported that Iran had armed and trained some 40,000 Shiite Iraqi fighters – most former prisoners of war captured during the Iran-Iraq war – and sent them to Iraq to foment an Islamic revolution. The report originated in my premium, online, intelligence newsletter G2 Bulletin.

The report said this small army represents the vanguard of Iran's effort to subvert the U.S.-led liberation of Iraq and use the toppling of Saddam Hussein's regime for its own ends.

"Ayatollah Mohammed Bakir Khakim is on record pledging more than once to his followers a plan to impose Islamic rule over Iraq with the help of Iran," reports G2 Bulletin. "The Tehran ayatollahs, or the Pasadran, the powerful revolutionary guard, repeatedly have been telling the Iraqis they would be their legitimate allies and partners. In such a scenario, there is no room for the U.S. The coalition that liberated Iraq is seen by the Iraqi Shiite militants and their Iranian sponsors as a tool for handing Iraq over to them without the need to use a massive force of their own."

Iran has clear objectives in Iraq. The only question is whether the United States still has clear objectives in Iraq – and whether Washington recognizes that this war front just got wider.


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To: Criminal Number 18F
From your keyboard to the Coalition. Great minds and all that . . .

Warrant Issued for Anti-Coalition Cleric's Arrest

101 posted on 04/05/2004 11:38:28 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: archy
thank you Sir!
102 posted on 04/05/2004 11:40:56 AM PDT by King Prout (You may disagree with what I have to say... but I will defend to YOUR death MY right to say it.)
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To: yonif
The whole Arab/Islamic world is at war with non-Muslims.


I know you're more logical and educated than that.
103 posted on 04/05/2004 11:42:07 AM PDT by freedom44
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To: F14 Pilot
Moqtada Al-Sadr: The Young Rebel of the Iraqi Shi'a

http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=ia&ID=IA16104
104 posted on 04/05/2004 11:49:48 AM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com - Disturb, manipulate, demonstrate for the right thing)
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To: yonif
Thank you!
105 posted on 04/05/2004 12:09:46 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (John Fedayeen Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: johnb838
You are absolutely right!
106 posted on 04/05/2004 12:09:58 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (John Fedayeen Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: johnb838; Ragtime Cowgirl; AdmSmith; McGavin999; nuconvert; yonif
Iran ready to send 10,000 pilgrims to Iraq daily

April 5th 2004
Payvand Iran News

Tehran, April 5, IRNA -- Deputy Interior Minister for Security Affairs Ali Asghar Ahmadi said here Monday that the Islamic Republic of Iran is ready to send some 10,000 pilgrims to Iraq per day.

Speaking to IRNA, he said the figure was approved by Iraqi officials during their recent visit to Iran.

There are ample grounds for expansion of Iran-Iraq cooperation, which the Islamic Republic of Iran welcomes, he said.

Serious talks on security, campaign against terrorism and drug trafficking will be deferred until the formation of the Iraqi government, he underlined.

"The two sides should agree on the nature of mutual cooperation but on restoration of security, education of police force and protecting officials, we can put out experience at their disposal," he concluded.

http://www.payvand.com/news/04/apr/1027.html
107 posted on 04/05/2004 12:14:12 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (John Fedayeen Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Give that man a horse! He could charge the enemy trenches with that sword. Of course, his horse would have a heart attack from carrying all that.
108 posted on 04/05/2004 12:17:55 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: F14 Pilot
I've heard it said that we are in the "1937 phase" of WWIII, which I might term the "Erszatz" or Phoney war phase. I've been wondering where the armies to fight a true WWIII would come from... barring entry by China, I'm still not sure.
109 posted on 04/05/2004 12:20:31 PM PDT by johnb838 (Kerry: Wrong on Defense, Wrong on Taxes. Too Liberal for America.)
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To: freedom44
I clarified what I meant:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1111516/posts?page=78#78
110 posted on 04/05/2004 12:43:34 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Program for all tuning into the game in progress:

White bearded guy in the top photo: Sistani.

Chubby bearded guy in the next photo: Muqty. Is it just me, or does he look like the actor that played King Herod as a dissolute fop in The Passion of the Christ?

Dinky Sword in the hands of the third guy: Commonly found in Shiite homes, it is used to reenact the martyrdom of Hussein in public ceremonies commemorating the death of this man at Karbala in 680 AD. (Shia background, grossly oversimplified: Shiites, probably about 12% of the worlds Moslems, are the followers of the line of Ali, the 4th Caliph; Sunnis follow the line of Aisha, Mohammed's child bride, and accept the first three caliphs as legit, whereas the Shiites see them as false caliphs). Most Iraqi (and Iranian) Muslims are Twelver Shiites, meaning they place great religious store in the disappearance of the 12th Shiite Imam, whom they expect to return one day.

Both Sunni and Shia Islam exist in many versions, from cosmopolitan and humanistic through to the extreme, violent faith that has such political impact today. It is much, much, more complicated than that....

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

111 posted on 04/05/2004 2:39:46 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Never forget: AFP and AP were right there to film the mutilation of our men. And Kos cheered em on.)
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To: bogdanPolska12; archy
almost like El Alamo by Montgomery.

Bogdan -- sorry to ping on you as a non-native speaker, but this is too good to pass up. Alamein was where Montgomery finally was able to use his vast material and intel superiority to beat Rommel in 1942. Alamo is where a couple dozen Texans got their asses kicked, gloriously, by thousands of Mexican regulars in 1836; it's about to be a subject of a nihilistic, revisionist film from (who else?) Disney.

Archy: mondegreen alert!

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

112 posted on 04/05/2004 2:47:07 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Never forget: AFP and AP were right there to film the mutilation of our men. And Kos cheered em on.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
The answer to radical Islam is rational Islam; it's winning the world's 1.4 billion muslims away from the fascist and violent leaders. And the only way we can practically do that is by actively promoting people who can speak to them within their faith, but who do not call for blood and death.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F
113 posted on 04/05/2004 3:02:33 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Never forget: AFP and AP were right there to film the mutilation of our men. And Kos cheered em on.)
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To: MEGoody
Not full scale war...but we should (and as far as we DON'T know we just might) have Special Ops and CIA in those countries and we need to be prepared to help if there are massive uprisings, as in Iran, and the mullahs and Syrian Ba'athtist start massacres.

Stuff like air power, etc. Not necessarily Marines.

I also want to see more public efforts to reign in Saudi Arabia.
114 posted on 04/05/2004 3:46:31 PM PDT by Fledermaus ( Frm ^;;^ says, "Fallujah would make a lovely glass table top!")
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To: beachn4fun
Uh...this forum is designed for opinions so I'm not going to continue writing IMO every other sentence.
115 posted on 04/05/2004 3:49:24 PM PDT by Fledermaus ( Frm ^;;^ says, "Fallujah would make a lovely glass table top!")
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To: Landru
Yep...I'm having sympathy pains as my wife PMS's! lol
116 posted on 04/05/2004 3:50:56 PM PDT by Fledermaus ( Frm ^;;^ says, "Fallujah would make a lovely glass table top!")
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To: Axiom Nine
ping
117 posted on 04/05/2004 3:51:14 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Always finish what you st)
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To: F14 Pilot
Iran declares war on U.S.

I kind of thought we have been at "war" with Iran since they took over the Embassy in 1979.

118 posted on 04/05/2004 3:55:53 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Only fools are patient in a time of war. Patience often creates defeat and gives the enemy too much time to plan and regroup. Or it fails to make gains when opportunity arises and creates worse problems down the road (ask Patton).

The most recent example is this Iraq battle (not a war - I believe it's just a part of the war on terror). Bush allowed Congress to pull his nose around the world sucking up to jerks like France and Germany and all for nothing. All that wasted time, IMO, led to Saddam either destroying or moving his WMD's.

Our paitence with Iran is ridiculous. Our State Dept. plays this game with the mullahs that does us no good. Read the Iranian blogs...they are confused as to whether or not we support their efforts to get rid of them. Ditto for Syria.

And why is Prince Bandar even still allowed to live in this country? Saudi Arabia isn't being spanked enough for me. And I fully understand this war on terror will take a long, long time.

But look at Lybia. As usual, they were farther ahead on their weapon's programs than we thought. The same with Iran, N. Korea, etc. But all the focus is what we AREN'T finding in Iraq. Better safe than sorry.
119 posted on 04/05/2004 3:58:51 PM PDT by Fledermaus ( Frm ^;;^ says, "Fallujah would make a lovely glass table top!")
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To: Godfollow
I will be voting GW also. I can't stay home...I never have even if it's an election for dogcatcher.

But I reserve my right to complain! lol

And you can believe I send these same sentiments to the White House and my Congressional representation.
120 posted on 04/05/2004 4:01:13 PM PDT by Fledermaus ( Frm ^;;^ says, "Fallujah would make a lovely glass table top!")
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To: ought-six
LOL - it's okay, they are too stupid to understand English!
121 posted on 04/05/2004 4:05:59 PM PDT by Fledermaus ( Frm ^;;^ says, "Fallujah would make a lovely glass table top!")
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To: Makedonski
Every once in a while I get these thoughts of the movie "The Outsiders" and think, wouldn't it be great to just have all of us in the US get on a bunch of planes and head to the mideast and just have a good ol' ass-whoopin' rumble!!! I get so pissed when I read some of the sh*t that they are doing over there that I'd love to be able to just go over and beat the ever-loving snot out of these as*holes!
122 posted on 04/05/2004 4:12:59 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: Fledermaus
Odd that the people of those countries await the mighty USA to come save them from their own homegrown villains.

What good does it do us, to do any more than we already have, if they are so timid, and if we have to do all the heavy lifting?

The Taliban had to go, and so did Saddam.That was at a minimum, for the USA.
We must be prepared to take on North Korea.
If those Iranians dont know by now how to topple their government,and shake off their shackles, they will never be able to do so, with or without our help.
123 posted on 04/05/2004 4:45:17 PM PDT by sarasmom (Watching mainstream liberal media "news reports" will cause brain atrophy.)
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To: blackie
"What are you doing to protect the Judeo/Christian way of life?"

I am teaching my children about religion and to understand other religions and their freedom to practice it.

I teach them respect and compassion. I teach them how to be responsible people and to make good choices with their lives.

I don't teach hatred or avarice towards others. Nor do I teach them to commit atrocities against others due to their race, creed, religious persuasion or sexual orientation.

However, one thing I do teach them is not to take crap from people who practice the above. If they are confronted with hatred, they are to be as tolerant as possible until it is no longer time to be tolerant.

124 posted on 04/05/2004 5:02:59 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: pt17
I might remind you--once again--that "W" plays "Chess, NOT 'CHECKERS.'"

"In the Heat of the Moment," we seem to forget that "W" is a LOT SMARTER than he seems.

Somehow, I think that "W" has LONG been "Well Aware" of the Sociopathic Imams--& is Likely to have Crafted a Plan designed to allow these psychopaths to "Self-Destruct!"

"W" may be Fallible, but he's NOT STUPID!!

OUR "Problem" isn't Stupidity--it's Impatience!!

We're Americans;--we expect Problems to be Solved, NOW!!

I FULLY EXPECT that "W" & 'Condi have engineered a "Scenario" in which the "IMAMS" will "AUTO-DESTRUCT!!"

In Fact, I'm Looking Forward to the "FALLOUT" after the Destruction of the Psychotic "Imams!"

The "LeftMedia" will Likely "Go Ballistic!!"

"WHAT FUN!!"

Doc

125 posted on 04/05/2004 6:13:18 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: F14 Pilot; McGavin999; MEG33; yonif; Criminal Number 18F; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert_Paulson2; ...
Defeat Sadr-Dumbkopf terrorist gang--Vote Bush

Jihad Fedayeen Keri and supportive foreign leader

126 posted on 04/05/2004 6:36:44 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: F14 Pilot; PhilDragoo
Thanks for directing me here, Phil.

They stated on Fox News today that Al-Sadr, who is only 31 years old, is funded by Iran. Wonder why we haven't done anything before now?

They also said that Fallujah is the size of San Antonio, about 500thousand. Today they said that 1200 Marines had it surrounded, hard to believe!!

The young people in Iran would like to overthrow the 'mullahs' but need some help.
127 posted on 04/05/2004 6:53:47 PM PDT by potlatch ( Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: F14 Pilot
Attention "FATHEADS AND YOUR FATWA'S" stick them where the moon does not shine!
128 posted on 04/05/2004 6:57:23 PM PDT by winker
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To: Criminal Number 18F
Archy: mondegreen alert!

It's got to be a song lyric for it to really qualify as a Mondegreen, and the nearest song I can think of akin to a couple of pretty fair Alamo ballads [most notable being the Marty Robbins version] being *Dirty Gertie from Bizerte*

Better described as a mixed metaphor, I'd think, or in this case, maybe a mixed similie.

129 posted on 04/05/2004 7:26:03 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: potlatch; winker
Right!
130 posted on 04/05/2004 10:38:42 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (John Fedayeen Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: All
To: DoctorZIn
Why is the media ignoring Iran's involvement in the Iraqi unrest?
When will we deal aggressively with the Iranian incitement of violence in Iraq by the Iranian mullahs?

Doc, Perhaps the Media closed their eyes on the real reasons of the recent unrest in Iraq. But all of us know that the main reason is the Mullahs.

We will deal aggressively with the Mullahs as soon as the Media turn to pay attention to the real causes.


24 posted on 04/05/2004 8:36:43 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John Fedayeen Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
131 posted on 04/05/2004 10:40:00 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (John Fedayeen Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: Doc On The Bay
I might remind you--once again--that "W" plays "Chess, NOT 'CHECKERS.' ............ WHAT FUN!!"

I might remind you that the friends and families of those "chess pieces" on our side that have been retired do not think this is such great fun. Necessary perhaps, but definitely not fun.
132 posted on 04/05/2004 11:04:13 PM PDT by pt17
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To: F14 Pilot
Unfortunately this is nothing new. We have been at war with Iran since 1979. It's time for us to return to Tehran in the B-52's as the young Airmen(former hostage) said as he deplaned after being repatriated to the U.S. along with the other hostages from our U.S. Embassy there, January 21st, 1981, shortly after President Ronald Reagan was sworn into office, January 20th, 1981. The Young Airmen said at the time, "I'd return to Tehran....In a B-52!!!!"!!!!
133 posted on 04/05/2004 11:10:47 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2
In a B-52 to bomb what? People or Government...???
134 posted on 04/05/2004 11:15:02 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (John Fedayeen Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: F14 Pilot
After surviving 444 days in captivity, understandably the Young Airmen wanted to trash Iran!!!! Can't says I blame 'im!!!! At the time I shared exactly the same sentiments toward Iran at the time!!!! I wanted to blow them(Iran) away to Kingdom Come!!!!
135 posted on 04/05/2004 11:18:42 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2
Have You visited DoctorZIn's thread on Iran?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1112077/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/~doctorzin
136 posted on 04/05/2004 11:43:36 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (John Fedayeen Kerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: F14 Pilot
As for the Folks in Iran wanting to remove their present government and wanting to create a Democracy there, I'm All for it. I sincerely hope they can pull it off. It would be a great day there for them if they are able to succeed.
137 posted on 04/05/2004 11:56:45 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: PhilDragoo
The Mullahs better keep an eye on the storm brewing within themselves my friend, before they go messin' with us.

But if they insist, go right ahead.

...& make my day.

138 posted on 04/06/2004 7:03:43 AM PDT by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Good response, congratulations!
139 posted on 04/06/2004 7:44:01 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: blackie
Thank you. I am sure you practice the same beliefs.
140 posted on 04/06/2004 8:01:53 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: EQAndyBuzz
My children were all born in the 50's. :)
141 posted on 04/06/2004 9:11:54 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: blackie
Then I need to congratulate you.

142 posted on 04/06/2004 9:17:22 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I have seven grandchildren. :)
143 posted on 04/06/2004 9:21:22 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: blackie
I have two children (I am a wee bit younger than you, however not as wise as you I am sure)that are gifted in many ways. It pleases me to see how they have grown up so far despite what is being shown on television these days.

I can only pray that my wife and my wisdom will be heeded and they will share them with their children.

It's tough these days and we do our best.



144 posted on 04/06/2004 10:30:51 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: EQAndyBuzz
You're on the right track and you're doing a fine job ~ yep, you're a bit younger then I am ~ I'll be 74 October, 26 :).
145 posted on 04/06/2004 12:51:47 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Long Cut
>>the Carter years,

Amazing, the effects of one, single, piece of tape... placed by a bungling burglar.

No Tape = no Watergate.
No Watergate = no "Carter years".
No Carter = no Islamic Revolution
No Islamic Revolution = no Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan
No Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan = No Osama, No Iran/Iraq war, no Saddam... And so the pinball bounces.


Now, imagine the game proceeding with the fingers of Ol
"Hanoi Johny" on the flippers.

20-20 hindsight.

That's why I'll be voting for W.
146 posted on 04/06/2004 1:26:11 PM PDT by VxH (This species has amused itself to death.)
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To: F14 Pilot
Exceptionally enlightening, especially after reading this other FR post: Who Lost Osama? : Richard Clarke is far tougher on the Clinton failures than advertised.

(Paragraph 9)
Clarke also claims credit for ending Iranian terrorism against the United States after the Khobar Towers attack. Today's proponents of rapprochement with Tehran should pay close attention. Clarke has no doubt the Iranian government sponsored the Khobar bombing, which killed nineteen Americans: "The larger attack in Saudi Arabia at Khobar was conducted by Saudi Hezbollah under the close supervision of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps and its Qods Force," he writes. At the time, the CIA judged that "further Iranian-sponsored terrorism against the United States was likely."
This should have been grounds for war, and we learn in Against All Enemies the White House considered it, examining options including a full-scale invasion, attacking Iranian-sponsored terrorist camps in Lebanon, persuading our allies to impose a multilateral economic boycott, and conducting an unspecified "intelligence operation."
Inevitably, the Clinton administration chose the lesser option...

147 posted on 04/07/2004 5:59:35 PM PDT by XHogPilot (9-11, Never Again, Never Forget)
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To: pt17
Great comment!

"If you're going to kill a snake, I might suggest you start at the head, lest you get bitten before you're done. The Mullahs, Imams, Ayatollahs are the instigators (i.e., the head of the mob)."

148 posted on 04/07/2004 6:03:31 PM PDT by XHogPilot (9-11, Never Again, Never Forget)
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To: Godfollow
It's beginning to look like what the middle east needs to keep it under control is an evil tyrant. We may have shot ourselves in the foot by removing him (Saddam). Sometimes I think our Western values are only valid in our part of the world

I give a lot more credit to the heart of mankind. We were not created to be yoked and enslaved by tyrants. Throughout history, tyrants have come and gone. The Creator and the soul of mankind will endure.

149 posted on 04/07/2004 6:25:59 PM PDT by XHogPilot (9-11, Never Again, Never Forget)
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