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Panel to reconsider Clarke statements
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | 4-7-04 | James G. Lakely

Posted on 04/06/2004 10:20:52 PM PDT by Indy Pendance

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:14:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The September 11 commission will look at the discrepancy between the testimony of Richard A. Clarke that the Clinton administration considered the threat of al Qaeda "urgent" and its final national-security report to Congress, which gave the terror organization scant mention.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commission; clarke; clintonpapers; dipwad; jamesglakely; richardclarke
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1 posted on 04/06/2004 10:20:53 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Howlin; Dog; prairiebreeze; onyx; OXENinFLA
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2 posted on 04/06/2004 10:29:31 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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3 posted on 04/06/2004 10:30:05 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (I'd rather be sleeping. Let's get this over with so I can go back to sleep!)
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To: Indy Pendance
I can't wait for Rice to testify... :) :) :) :) :)

Uh, but this report...

"We are blessed to be citizens of a country enjoying record prosperity with no deep divisions at home, no overriding external threats abroad, and history's most powerful military ready to defend our interests around the world."

No overriding external threats abroad? UH, WTF??????????????????????????????
4 posted on 04/06/2004 10:32:53 PM PDT by oolatec
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To: Indy Pendance
I think Condi will do very well in refuting Clarke's mis-statements. I truly hope Clarke can be charged with perjury concerning his erroneous under-oath testimony. Making a buck off of hating Bush hit a new low with Clarke...


5 posted on 04/06/2004 10:33:30 PM PDT by IPWGOP ('tooning the truth)
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To: IPWGOP
"I truly hope Clarke can be charged with perjury concerning his erroneous under-oath testimony."

Highly doubtful. One thing that ticks me off is the lack of fortitude in the GOP with respect to adhering to the laws violated by the democrats, which are numerous.

6 posted on 04/06/2004 10:36:28 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Mo1; Indy Pendance; 1Mike; 3catsanadog; ~Vor~; ~Kim4VRWC's~; A CA Guy; A Citizen Reporter; abner; ..
Well, well...
7 posted on 04/06/2004 10:38:29 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm a monthy donor..........wouldn't you like to be a monthly donor, too?)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
The Clinton administration's final document was 45,000 words long and titled "A National Security Strategy for a Global Age," but it hardly mentioned bin Laden and his terrorist network.

Mr. Clinton wrote in the preface, "We are blessed to be citizens of a country enjoying record prosperity with no deep divisions at home, no overriding external threats abroad, and history's most powerful military ready to defend our interests around the world."

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

8 posted on 04/06/2004 10:41:39 PM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John Fin al-Qerry)
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To: doug from upland; Mia T; ALOHA RONNIE
The Clinton administration's final document was 45,000 words long and titled "A National Security Strategy for a Global Age," but it hardly mentioned bin Laden and his terrorist network.

Mr. Clinton wrote in the preface, "We are blessed to be citizens of a country enjoying record prosperity with no deep divisions at home, no overriding external threats abroad, and history's most powerful military ready to defend our interests around the world."

9 posted on 04/06/2004 10:42:56 PM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John Fin al-Qerry)
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To: nutmeg
Jim Robinson needs to buy us a shrink -- we need some anger management threads.........LOL.

I don't know about you, but I'm not sure how long I'll make it!
10 posted on 04/06/2004 10:44:19 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm a monthy donor..........wouldn't you like to be a monthly donor, too?)
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To: nutmeg

11 posted on 04/06/2004 10:48:31 PM PDT by america-rules (It's US or THEM so what part don't you understand ?)
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To: Howlin
That's what I thought! Well, well, what have we here? Could Clarke ... *gasp* ... Embellish? Exaggerate? Fudge? Falsify? Fib? Deceive? Mislead? Misstate?

LIE?????? Under oath????? A liberal would NEVER do that, never..... nah..... never ....

12 posted on 04/06/2004 10:50:25 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
Former Rep. Lee Hamilton, an Indiana Democrat and a member of the September 11 commission, said he "probably saw that document" and others like it before he resigned from Congress in 1999, "but I don't have any recollection of it, to be blunt."

Since this report was published in December 2000, I wouldn't expect a Congressman who left office in 1999 to have had it come across his desk. Maybe he should have done a little homework before 'rushing to judgement' about the report in question.

13 posted on 04/06/2004 10:52:53 PM PDT by kayak (Stop FReepathons. Become a monthly donor.)
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To: Indy Pendance
The commission is actually doing FACT-CHECKING now?

John Kerry is deeply troubled.


14 posted on 04/06/2004 10:54:09 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII'm comin' up, so you'd better get this jihad started." [thanks, Silverback])
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To: Indy Pendance

15 posted on 04/06/2004 10:54:13 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm a monthy donor..........wouldn't you like to be a monthly donor, too?)
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To: Mo1
Actually I have a question.

A guy I work with keeps saying that Clarkes book was given to the White house for approval before it was released, and the White house approved the book just the way it is, ergo what Clarke is saying is all true.

Is there any truth in what my co-worker says, I have trouble believing that the Whitehouse would ok that sort of drivel
16 posted on 04/06/2004 10:56:22 PM PDT by DaiHuy (MUST HAVE JUST BEEN BORN THAT WAY...)
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To: nutmeg; Howlin
Was a wimp...Still the wimp....

Can't even get it right.
17 posted on 04/06/2004 10:57:42 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: DaiHuy; Howlin
I recall the white house making some documents declassified...but not approval?
18 posted on 04/06/2004 11:01:38 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Howlin
Ah yes, they were sweating away on the problem. HA! I guess the reason Ben Vineste and Gorelick didn't return the calls is because they hadn't received their fax from the DNC yet.
19 posted on 04/06/2004 11:01:54 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Expecting others to pay for your enjoyment of FreeRepublic is socialism: Donate now!)
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To: Indy Pendance
"That's one of hundreds of documents that a president issues, [but] I don't draw any conclusions from that . . . ".

Yo, Lee! What part of no overriding external threats was not a conclusion in the preface to the Klintoon/Klarke report?

20 posted on 04/06/2004 11:03:38 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: DaiHuy
The White House didn't look at whether Clark wrote the truth or not ..

The book was reviewed for national security reasons and to make sure no sensitive information was given out .. that is not uncommon

Karen Hugh's book was reviewed in the same way and if I recall, Karen said the only thing they took out of her book was a phone number
21 posted on 04/06/2004 11:04:11 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Howlin
I love it!
22 posted on 04/06/2004 11:06:15 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: DaiHuy
The WH just makes sure that no classified info is released...he can make up any accustation he wants...as long as classified info isn't released....
23 posted on 04/06/2004 11:14:26 PM PDT by Getsmart64 (LANTIRN - Designed to kill, maim, and destroy ....America's enemies...)
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To: DaiHuy
They would just check to make sure no classified data was released.
24 posted on 04/06/2004 11:15:18 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: All
Third time is the charm!
25 posted on 04/06/2004 11:16:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Howlin
Mr. Clinton wrote in the preface, "We are blessed to be citizens of a country enjoying record prosperity with no deep divisions at home, no overriding external threats abroad, and history's most powerful military ready to defend our interests around the world."

Let me translate. "I am blessed to be in charge of country which is experiencing irrational exuberance. They don't know that Wall Street is cooking the books, heck my friend Terry made a mountain of money on one of those deals. But back to the point, they don't know that the books are cooked and that these Muslim extremists are a real threat to anybody but people way off in foreign lands. And of course they don't care about that because of this irrational exuberance thing I got goin'.

Anyway I got this guy, his name is Dick which perfectly describes him, and I let him come to all my meetings so he thinks he's real important chasing down a Muslim extremist or two. Ain't no way he's going to make a dent in that problem but I got myself covered should anything happen before I get out of the White House."

26 posted on 04/06/2004 11:19:26 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Indy Pendance
I hope "Classy Condi" makes the "commission" looked like chopped liver and reveal them for the hypocrites they are...
27 posted on 04/06/2004 11:20:26 PM PDT by wayne_shrugged
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To: MNLDS
Kerry looks like death warmed over in that photo... must be pre-botox
28 posted on 04/06/2004 11:21:53 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: DaiHuy
Is there any truth in what my co-worker says, I have trouble believing that the Whitehouse would ok that sort of drivel

The CIA, etc have a say in books by public officials concerning their stay in their jobs. They just makes sure that there is nothing CLASSIFIED that was inadvertently slipped into the book- they don't care about a book's bullshiess content, so a work of fiction with get through pretty much unscathed.

29 posted on 04/06/2004 11:26:02 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: DaiHuy
Who Lost Osama? : Richard Clarke is far tougher on the Clinton failures than advertised.

"THIS IS THE STORY, from my perspective, of how al Qaeda developed and attacked the United States on September 11," Richard Clarke begins Against All Enemies: Inside America's War on Terror, his new book that has been widely ballyhooed as the bomb that will destroy President Bush's reelection campaign.

In fact, only in his preface and the book's final sixty-five pages does Clarke's partisanship boil over into the invective, vitriol, and spite that have transformed this career national-security hawk into the anti-Bush Democrats' American Idol. The rest of the book, Clarke's unwitting indictment of the Clinton administration's terrorism policy, ought to make the whole of the nation vote for four more years of Bush.


30 posted on 04/06/2004 11:26:43 PM PDT by kayak (Stop FReepathons. Become a monthly donor.)
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To: Indy Pendance
HEY BILLY JEFF!!!!


31 posted on 04/06/2004 11:27:17 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your state Republican party office and VOLUNTEER FOR A CAMPAIGN!!!)
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To: DaiHuy
"A guy I work with keeps saying that Clarkes book was given to the White house for approval before it was released, and the White house approved the book just the way it is, ergo what Clarke is saying is all true."

NO your workmate is wrong, they only vet it for national security related info - to make sure not to reveal sources and methods, period.

Bush gave them the rope to hang themselves. Again.
32 posted on 04/06/2004 11:29:19 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your state Republican party office and VOLUNTEER FOR A CAMPAIGN!!!)
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To: Howlin
Thanks for the ping!

Clueless Liberal
Liberalism fighting the WOT

33 posted on 04/06/2004 11:32:57 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Mo1
The White House didn't look at whether Clark wrote the truth or not...

You're correct - national security is/was their only concern. Also, I had read that they were not under oath for that hearing and Dr. Rice will not be under oath for Thursday's hearing.

I have heard Ben Vineste has leaked parts of Dr. Rice's four hour hearing in which he did not attend.

The media is now having a cow over President Bush and Vice President Cheney appearing together/at the same time for their hearing. No respect to the fact that they are even testifying.

BTW When I put this thru spell check 'Cheney' comes up as a mispelled and my choice is 'Chaney'. I checked with my bumper sticker and my way is correct. Where do I report abuse!!!

34 posted on 04/06/2004 11:36:17 PM PDT by malia (BUSH/CHENEY '04 NEVER FORGET!)
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To: malia
The media is now having a cow over President Bush and Vice President Cheney appearing together/at the same time for their hearing. No respect to the fact that they are even testifying.

Also take note .. they aren't reporting about Clinton and Gore testifying

I'm not surprised at how they are attacking Presdient Bush

O'Reilly Factor - Left-wing "reporters" met with John Kerry in Al Franken's apartment

35 posted on 04/06/2004 11:50:00 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: DaiHuy
I believe the White House screened the book to make sure there were no classified security leaks, not to verify the accuracy of the contents.
36 posted on 04/06/2004 11:55:22 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: Mo1
Yea, I saw this a week or so ago, unbelievable!!! We have a double fight on our hands until Nov.
37 posted on 04/07/2004 12:07:17 AM PDT by malia (BUSH/CHENEY '04 NEVER FORGET!)
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To: malia
Yes we do and we will get the truth out to the people
38 posted on 04/07/2004 12:18:13 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Indy Pendance
Mr. Black said he expects Miss Rice to "put to rest Mr. Clarke's charges. His credibility is pretty much shot," Mr. Black said. "I'm sure Dr. Rice will finish off what is left of it when she testifies."

All that's needed to "finish off" Clarke's credibility is his own words.
However, it will be interesting to see how Condi spits in his face, and it will be funny to watch partisan scumbags like Kerrey, Ben-Veniste, and Gorelick try to prop Clarke up and defend him.

39 posted on 04/07/2004 12:31:29 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Indy Pendance
The Clinton document consistently characterized terrorist attacks against Americans and U.S. interests as "crimes" and outlined how it was using diplomatic and economic pressure to bring the "perpetrators to justice."

That was working so well I just don't understand why we abandoned it as national policy.

Signed,
John Kerry
Senator from the State of Instability

40 posted on 04/07/2004 1:00:02 AM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: Indy Pendance
We did help the radical Muslims ethnically-cleanse the Serbs in Kosovo.

That's something.

Am I getting this wrong?

Living History said this was a good thing. How could it not be?
41 posted on 04/07/2004 1:03:46 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Warrior Freepers Rule The Earth)
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To: Mo1
I wonder why the "commission" didn't do a bit of research before they Lewinskied Clarke in the first place? I am sure they have everything Condi ever uttered in public all lined up and ready to go for tomorrow.
42 posted on 04/07/2004 1:07:14 AM PDT by Texasforever (God Bless And Keep Our Troops)
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To: Howlin
Me, either.

Not sure about the anger management, though. It seems at the moment that anger is justified. I would rather see a million Republicans marching in the street. It seems to change the world when any other groups does it.
43 posted on 04/07/2004 2:18:25 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Texasforever
It is my understanding that Clarke had already given several hours of private testimony, which were not consistent with his public testimony. In my opinion, the Rats on the committee (who all conveniently had his book) knew that he was going to slam Bush in his public testimony.

In addition, I believe that the book was altered after it was sent to the White House. Apparently (and I have not read it) the introduction and the last chapter are the ones which attack Bush. Everything else is pretty much neutral. I think he added those two portions on after the book was vetted.

I am dead certain they are going to try and ambush Condi tomorrow. I also assume that the White House knows this, and they are ready for it.

44 posted on 04/07/2004 2:25:40 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: DaiHuy
The Whitehouse reviews it for "security breeches" only.
45 posted on 04/07/2004 2:36:59 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Indy Pendance
"His credibility is pretty much shot," Mr. Black said. "I'm sure Dr. Rice will finish off what is left of it when she testifies."
I hope she burns his sanctimonious a$$ to the ground, salts that ground and has a thousand soldiers march across it!
Richard Clark is the epitome of a useless bureaucrat!
46 posted on 04/07/2004 3:11:46 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: BKO; america-rules; PhilDragoo; Carl/NewsMax; Boston; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Joy Angela; ...
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'Remember the Lost and Suffering on September 11, 2001'

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33


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47 posted on 04/07/2004 3:16:20 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: DaiHuy
Yes, the White House only reviews to ensure no classified info is included in the book.

LET ME ADD...the preview was done by the White House Counsel's office...the lawyers. Contents of the book WERE NOT SHARED with others outside the Counsel's office, thus explaining why the president and his staff were unprepared for the firestorm set off by the book. The White House Counsel's "seal of approval" has nothing to do with the truth or dishonesty of the book.
48 posted on 04/07/2004 3:37:34 AM PDT by Timeout (Down with Donks!)
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To: Howlin; Mo1; StriperSniper
9AM Tomorrow, I can't wait!
49 posted on 04/07/2004 3:56:15 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Indy Pendance
Mr. Black said he expects Miss Rice to "put to rest Mr. Clarke's charges."


"His credibility is pretty much shot," Mr. Black said. "I'm sure Dr. Rice will finish off what is left of it when she testifies."


"His credibility is pretty much shot," and so is the credibility of this "The Commission".

This "The Commission" is not about seeking "truth" else they would not have put on a "show" with one making $$$$$ off 9/11.

There are many on this "The Commission" that were in elective office pre- 9/11 and they did not sound alarms, they did nothing, but support a pervert in-chief.
50 posted on 04/07/2004 4:15:08 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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