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Al-Sadr's Militia Named After Messianic Image
San Jose Mercury News ^ | Apr. 7, 2004 | Tish Wells

Posted on 04/08/2004 2:09:01 AM PDT by Dajjal

Al-Sadr's Militia Named After Messianic Image

By Tish Wells

San Jose Mercury News
Wed, Apr. 07, 2004

[EXCERPT]

WASHINGTON - Muqtada al-Sadr summoned one of Shiite Islam's most messianic images when he chose the name Mahdi Army for his militia. The mahdi is believed to be the successor to Muhammad who will return to save the world.

The word isn't mentioned in the Quran or in the collected sayings attributed to Muhammad, known as the hadiths. But the term is common to both Sunni and Shiite branches of Islam as the term for a leader who will bring righteousness to the world.

The title means "the divinely guided one" but refers to differing concepts, depending on the believer. Some Muslims believe the mahdi will come in conjunction with the second coming of Jesus.

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Readers can find more information on "mahdi" at


http://I-cias.com/e.o/mahdi.htm
[Note: Beware of GAIN spyware at this site! --Dajjal]


Copyright 2004 Knight Ridder

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alsadr; dajjal; islam; jihad; mahdi; mahdiarmy; mehdi; qiyama; religionofpeace; sadr
Well, someone has done enough homework to find out that the Mahdi is a "messianic" person, but they still haven't figured out that this means that the Islamicists think this is the End of the World.

It would've been nice if the reporter had explained that "return to save the world" means killing or converting every infidel on the planet, until the entire Earth is under Shar'ia law.

Understanding Islamic End-Times Beliefs http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/853953/posts
Understanding Islamic End-Times Beliefs

1 posted on 04/08/2004 2:09:02 AM PDT by Dajjal
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2 posted on 04/08/2004 2:11:31 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Don't be a nuancy boy)
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The appearance of the Mahdi is one of the Signs of Qiyama (Signs of the End Times).

Major Signs of Qiyama
[Again, beware of spyware. --Dajjal]

3 posted on 04/08/2004 2:16:29 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Siobhan; Maeve; narses; Aquinasfan; Salvation; RnMomof7; ganesha; monkeyshine; CCWoody; ...
jihad ping
4 posted on 04/08/2004 2:20:07 AM PDT by Dajjal
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Muhammad Sajad Ali : Qadiri-Noshahi
5 posted on 04/08/2004 2:22:19 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
The Mahdi appears to kill the Dajjal. Guess who that is?

And understand that Mohammed's prophecies in the Hadith guarantee -- in their minds -- that they will be victorious over "the Dajjal."

6 posted on 04/08/2004 2:26:40 AM PDT by Dajjal
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"Kill the infidels!"

7 posted on 04/08/2004 2:48:37 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
'The title means "the divinely guided one"'

Is another translation "the Anti-Christ?"
8 posted on 04/08/2004 3:10:53 AM PDT by Socratic (Yes, there is method in the madness.)
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To: Socratic
In the Hadith, 'Isa -- the Muslim version of Jesus -- descends on a cloud, subordinates himself to the Mahdi, joins the Mahdi's army, and helps him kill the Dajjal and every other infidel.

'Isa also destroys all the Christian churches, breaks all the crosses, berates Christians for believing him a divine person of the Trinity, and berates the Jews for not recognizing him as the messiah. He also kills all the pigs. After the Mahdi has conquered the world, 'Isa dies peacefully and has a big funeral.

9 posted on 04/08/2004 3:19:42 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
Many Freepers know what the Islamic Mahdi is. So does this black turbaned punk Sadr think he's the Mahdi? He wouldn't be the first.
10 posted on 04/08/2004 3:59:13 AM PDT by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: Dajjal
Thanks for the ping, informational/educational links that you provide.
11 posted on 04/08/2004 5:42:15 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Dajjal
Thanks for the post and the ping.
12 posted on 04/08/2004 1:24:23 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Dajjal
BTTT! Interesting!
13 posted on 04/08/2004 6:42:02 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Dajjal
Gents (and ladies),
I am a college prof whose dissertation was on the Mahdi. Go to www.meforum.org/article/159 for my article in "Middle East Quarterly" from 2002 on the topic!!!!
Tim Furnish
14 posted on 04/23/2004 11:20:58 AM PDT by Desertdoc
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To: Desertdoc
Oh, and if anyone wishes to run any questions about the Mahdi by me (at the risk of hubris, but I am currently writing a book on the topic), I'm at tfurnish@bellsouth.net
Tim Furnish
15 posted on 04/23/2004 11:22:39 AM PDT by Desertdoc
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To: Desertdoc
Welcome to FreeRepublic!
16 posted on 04/24/2004 4:52:55 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Siobhan; Maeve; Pyro7480; Sabertooth; JohnHuang2; HAL9000; MadIvan; Thorondir; ...
Gents (and ladies),
I am a college prof whose dissertation was on the Mahdi. Go to www.meforum.org/article/159 for my article in "Middle East Quarterly" from 2002 on the topic!!!!
Tim Furnish
14 posted on 04/23/2004 11:20:58 AM PDT by Desertdoc

ping to #14

17 posted on 04/24/2004 5:05:14 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal; Desertdoc; nuconvert
Osama bin Laden graduated from King Abdul Azziz University in 1979 (Muslim year 1400) Certainly he was affected by the Grand Mosque episode with that self proclaimed Mahdi.
18 posted on 04/24/2004 5:32:11 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Desertdoc
Very interesting article, Desertdoc! Let us know when the book comes out.
19 posted on 04/24/2004 5:43:29 AM PDT by livius
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To: Desertdoc
Welcome to FR... until now all I knew about the Mahdi I learned from watching Karthoum with Charlton Heston (just kidding...)
20 posted on 04/24/2004 5:45:54 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (From each according to his inability, to each according to his misdeeds - DNC Motto)
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To: Dajjal; Desertdoc
Thanks for the ping to TIm Furnish's article.

http://www.meforum.org/article/159


Very interesting.

Tim, since you are an expert on Islam, what is your one paragraph assessment on the current radical trend of Islam. Is is possible to modernize/moderate Islam?
21 posted on 04/24/2004 8:21:10 AM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Dajjal; Desertdoc
I just went to your page, lots of interesting stuff.

Obviously you know a lot about Muslim beliefs.

After reading Desertdoc's article and the info on your page, I realize how little we (the rest of us) know about what drives these fanatics.

I think we do need to learn more and fight it on both fronts, as Tim mentions in his Bin Laden Mahdi article: both by force and by having more moderate Imams debunk them.

This is exactly what President Bush has been trying to do.

22 posted on 04/24/2004 8:31:23 AM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Dajjal
Time to call in the "Mahd Squad".
23 posted on 04/24/2004 8:43:51 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Rumble Thee Forth...)
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To: AdmSmith
Thanks.
24 posted on 04/24/2004 10:17:19 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ...( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: Desertdoc
Hi & welcome to FR.

You familiar with this guy? M.Zuhdi Jasser in Arizona?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1123634/posts
25 posted on 04/24/2004 10:19:53 AM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ...( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: FairOpinion
Well, that's an entertaining movie (and so is the other one made about the Brits v. the Mahdi, "The Four Feathers"), but it's not very accurate on the Islamic end.
I'd rate it somewhere between "The Ten Commandments" and "The Omega Man" in terms of Heston flicks, but definitely not in "Planet of the Apes" category.
26 posted on 04/25/2004 1:05:58 PM PDT by Desertdoc
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To: nuconvert
I was not. But thanks to you, I know about him now. Thanks.
27 posted on 04/25/2004 1:07:07 PM PDT by Desertdoc
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To: FairOpinion
That requires a dissertation. But since you asked.....
I think Islam would have to roll the clock back to the Mu`tazilah movement of its early days (first three centuries) in order to find some indigenous rationale for a "reformation" or "enlightenment." Islam as it is constituted today simply seems incapable of doing so. Ironically enough, I would argue that of the two branches, Sunni and Shi`i, it is the latter that is more open to resurrecting the concept of "ijtihad," or "independent reasoning," that would be required for Islam to begin to escape the intellectual tyranny of the guys with the ZZ Topp beards.
28 posted on 04/25/2004 1:11:03 PM PDT by Desertdoc
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To: Desertdoc
Ironically enough, I would argue that of the two branches, Sunni and Shi`i, it is the latter that is more open to resurrecting the concept of "ijtihad," or "independent reasoning," that would be required for Islam to begin to escape the intellectual tyranny of the guys with the ZZ Topp beards.

Really?!?!

Conventional wisdom always sez the opposite.

29 posted on 04/25/2004 7:34:25 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
That's why it's CONVENTIONAL wisdom.
30 posted on 04/26/2004 10:29:29 AM PDT by Desertdoc
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To: Dajjal

I’ve read your thread and seen my site quoted, and after seeing your webpage and that YOUR version of how you’ve understood ISLAM and the End days.

I’d like to address a few issues, its sad you think that Muslims think the Dajjal is the U.S., no were in the Islamic Text does it say that. You’ve also may out that Muslims These Muslims are Fatalistic Called Jabariyyah in Arabic. Which was a strange belief of its own and who ever beliefs in that is NOT a Muslim.

The Terms Mahdi is mentioned is out traditions which is an errorerous that is on the threads.

Most of what’s on your webpage is OUT of Context. In light of the Islamic traditions and you’ve misunderstood it. All I can see from your site is Anti this anti that.

Trying looking into your Bible and what it says that the Anti-Christ will be a Jew, references below.

http://www.parentalguide.com/Documents/Bible_Prophecy/Antichrist_part2.htm
http://www.biblebelievers.com/Pink/antichrist05.htm
http://www.biblebelievers.com/Pink/antichrist.htm
http://www.texemarrs.com/072000/jewanti.htm

As for I site it was put up only as references and research purposes for my self and some friends. But it seems to some how be advertise on google. Strange.

As for “….killing or converting every infidel on the planet..” that Imam Mahdi will do this just rubbish. Reading this carefully the first is thing that Imam Mahdi will do, is deal with 70,000 So-called Imams who will be misguiding the Muslims, severely!

As for the Militia – Nutters Killing everyone, most of the them are the B@st#rd child of the British, like any B@st#rd they are carry some effect of Cursed or damnation on the people, this was done in the form of the Wahabiyyah Movement (saudia arabia) which British gave Birth to Illegally .

Remember Sept 11 they were all Saudi’s with Wahabiyyah belief, sick Belief which the British were supports of and are. This is what the Mahdi will come for First to destroy if you must know.

As for the Jesus’s second coming on Earth (Syria near the Tomb of St John the Baptise or Yahya in Arabic) this will also happen roughly at the same time. Why is all of this going to happen because when Jesus first came people were falling into the Evil sickness of Loving this World too much called Materialistic, and this has happen again. NOW its the Muslims who will be the “Dregs of Society” being killed and destroyed by each other and others so many Muslims will be killed and until the earth is at a all time low, of Open Sex, Alcohol, Singing dance (in perversion manner) wayward behaviour until people sleep with their Mothers and sisters and kill their own daughters again. Until Riba-Interest will be covering the whole world. The Muslims will be like Sheep on a plate around the be the Evil of the Non-believes Not all Non-believes are bad many have Good Hearts and are Good people.

Anyway all this happens and much more like Earthquakes and Tall buildings being built, when your Hip talks to you- Mobiles phones, when the earth is cover with a spiders web- world W Web –Internet know the end is near and that the Deserts land s will be Green. All this can be found in our Islamic traditions on my site as well.

Why is all this trouble going to happen to the Muslims and much more, because they are loosing the plot of being Good Muslims which means not just praying and its rituals but being Nice to man kind also.

Your asking for answering to these Suicide bombers, look to who borne them, they were trained in the U.S and England to start off with.

As for the Shi’ah Milita they are crazy disjoining people who Ethos is based on Suicide, and for the Wahabiyyah they believe follows us your were kill you whio ever Muslim or non-Muslim, they have a Mu`tazilah –Khawarijah belief.

P.S strange all this talk but nobody mentioned the biggest Global terrorist Bush’s strategic Policies on Hell bent on Killing the Earth. Why does He address the Green Issue and that the World is Dying. “The day after Tomorrow ring any rings”. (Deserts land s will be Green) this reference was used here in London on the Preview of the Movie.

This is only a brief reply

This is not intended to offended any one way, other some reflections on ways happening In the world, if I does then I then i’m sorry.

Yours Muhammad Sajad Ali Qadiri-Noshahi

More references on the Islamic Armageddon called
A Chronicle of Scientific Breakthroughs and World Events that Occur During the Last Days, As Foretold by Prophet Muhammad (S)
http://www.isn1.net/cosoapofaris.html



Note. My site went up before Sept 11 and not before.


31 posted on 06/02/2004 7:27:37 AM PDT by M Sajad Ali ( Islamic Armageddon)
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To: M Sajad Ali
Right now, I'm packing for a 10-day trip. I won't have access to a computer. I'll write a longer response when I get back.

I never said that the beliefs I describe are authentic Islamic beliefs. I think I say the opposite. As a non-Muslim, it's not my place to say what is or is not "heretical."

I have said at FR that I do not know Arabic, and have no first-hand knowledge of much of what I write. I accept Prof. David Cook's studies that many of these millennial beliefs are popular. And particularly that some -- I've never said "all" -- radical preachers have taken the allegorical view that the Dajjal is _not_ one individual (Jewish or otherwise), but is a symbol representing all Western culture.

I advocate that this view be marginalized and preached against.

I do not equate millennialism and terrorism. I have no problem with anyone of any religion who sees signs of the End Times.

My concern is when these views are amplified to justify 9/11, dynamite vests, etc.

I'll write more to you when I get back on June 14th.

32 posted on 06/03/2004 3:42:20 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
The mahdi is believed to be the successor to Muhammad who will return to save the world.

Well, if the mahdi doesn't get here soon he will be too late to save the Muslims from extinction.

33 posted on 06/03/2004 3:49:02 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Socratic
the anti christ is the son of perdition, here is the son of perdition revealed . this is also the abomination that causes desolation writen in Daniel.
34 posted on 03/26/2007 11:15:39 PM PDT by abomination-desolation
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