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Anger Grows on Iraqi Governing Council
Yahoo! News ^ | April 9, 2004 | AP

Posted on 04/09/2004 4:56:10 PM PDT by kezekiel

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Anger grew Friday among U.S.-picked Iraqi leaders over the Marines' bloody siege of Fallujah, with one member of the Governing Council suspending his membership and another threatening to quit.

Friday's halt in the assault had been requested by the council to allow for talks on reducing the violence, a U.S. spokesman said.

Several of the council's 25 members spoke out against what they called the "mass punishment" of Fallujah's people in the siege, launched early Monday by U.S. forces to uproot Sunni insurgents in the city.

Ghazi al-Yawer, a Sunni member, and the representative of another Sunni member met Friday with city leaders in talks at a Marine base outside Fallujah, council member Mahmoud Othman told The Associated Press.

"We have been asked by members of the Iraqi Governing Council to have the opportunity to enter into Fallujah to speak with leaders of Fallujah to address ways in which bloodshed could be minimized," U.S. coalition spokesman Dan Senor said.

The council request for negotiations pointed to the eagerness of the Iraqi leaders to distance themselves from the assault, which has angered many Iraqis and become for some a symbol of resistance against the Americans.

Shiite council member Abdul-Karim Mahmoud al-Mohammedawi has formally suspended his membership, Othman said.

Al-Yawer said that while he has not taken any formal steps, "I will quit if the problem is not solved peacefully, because God will not bless a position of power that does not benefit its people."

"If negotiations fail because of the stubbornness of the American side or the failure to adhere to a cease-fire, I will quit 100 percent," he told Al-Jazeera TV.

One of the strongest pro-U.S. voices on the council, Adnan Pachachi, denounced the U.S. siege, launched after Sunni insurgents killed four U.S. contract workers and a mob dragged their burned and mutilated bodies through the streets and hung two of them from a bridge.

"These (U.S.) operations were a mass punishment for the people of Fallujah," Pachachi told Al-Arabiya TV. "It was not right to punish all the people of Fallujah and we consider these operations by the Americans unacceptable and illegal."

Added al-Yawer: "We all agree that those who did that (killed the four Americans) were criminals who deserve to be arrested. But the result was the mass punishment of a city. ... And that we refuse."

Asked about the council members' criticism, Senor said U.S.. forces have "a responsibility to address a situation that is hostile."

He said the coalition cannot "just turn our heads and look the other way" when Americans are killed in Fallujah.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: angrymuslims; council; fallujah; iraq; muslims
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1 posted on 04/09/2004 4:56:11 PM PDT by kezekiel
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To: kezekiel
So what, 4-5 out of 25 are disgruntled? That's better than we do in the Senate.
2 posted on 04/09/2004 4:57:49 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Voting Bush for lack of reasonable alternatives)
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To: kezekiel
Media don't get it. I am just relaxing, for they don't know elbow for a knee.

3 posted on 04/09/2004 4:58:46 PM PDT by bogdanPolska12
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To: kezekiel
If the peace-loving, 'good' muslims would rat out the jihadists in their midst, perhaps we wouldn't have to lay sige to the whole city. I don't feel sorry for any of them.
4 posted on 04/09/2004 4:58:49 PM PDT by Trust but Verify (Charter member Broken Glass Republicans (2000))
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To: kezekiel
If the High Council is worth its salt, they ought to bring these rebels in line. If they can't do it, they ought to work on their presentation.
5 posted on 04/09/2004 4:59:43 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: kezekiel
All of these poor innocent peace loving iraqis are starting to piss me off as much as the democrat party.

6 posted on 04/09/2004 4:59:46 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (FreeBSD; The devil made me do it..)
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To: kezekiel
I am sure the USMC would have had no problem with the city handing over the suspects voluntarily. I bet they would not have minded going into the city and nabbing the evil-doers without help, as long as they were not interfered with.

The citizens of Falujah lit this candle and now they are getting burned.
7 posted on 04/09/2004 5:01:43 PM PDT by Spruce (why does my spell-check want me to capitalize france?)
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To: kezekiel
If a person is more angry at the US than at the lynch mob the US is attempting to apprehend, and those who refuse to turn over the lynch mob, his priorities are out of whack for one who is supposed to be a leader in a civil society, and thus his resignation will not be unwelcome.
8 posted on 04/09/2004 5:02:01 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Trust but Verify
Your point is well taken and proves why these idiots cannot be domesticated so to speak. We cannot help them if they continue to behave in this fashion. And they will always behave in this fashion IMHO.

The religion of Hate and Revenge strikes again.
9 posted on 04/09/2004 5:04:36 PM PDT by LaGrone
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To: kezekiel
You're Fired!

This is the same thing the Muslim "allies" pulled in Afghanistan that let Osama get away at Tora Bora. The Pakistanis probably lost Mullah Omar during a truce. I think there was another pause in the Iraq war early on that let terrorists get away. It's about time we buck up these guys and not let them protect their "fellow" Muslims or fire them and get somebody else.
10 posted on 04/09/2004 5:04:53 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Rumble Thee Forth...)
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To: kezekiel
. . . mass punishment . . .

Total B.S. If we can't even find 25 truthful iraqis to sit on that council, it's very bad news for iraq as it's presently constituted. A three-state solution is probably the best way to go, imo. Divide and conquer.

11 posted on 04/09/2004 5:13:32 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: kezekiel
Those on the council who do not support us in this are not fit to govern. We should graciously accept their resignation and replace them who has a little better respect for the law.

Iraq is going to be a tough place to govern it is going to require those who are firm, kind, courageous, just and law abiding. Lacking in any one of those traits should disqualify them.

12 posted on 04/09/2004 5:21:50 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Expecting others to pay for your enjoyment of FreeRepublic is socialism: Donate now!)
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To: Dr. Frank fan
I agree. I think it is time we turn the marines loose and eliminate those few who are attempting to disrupt the formation of a democratic government in Iraq. I say protect our soldiers first and foremost and find and capture or kill the numbskull's who are attacking our forces and Iraqi citizens.
13 posted on 04/09/2004 5:22:28 PM PDT by tuvals
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To: LibWhacker
Ameristan and two others, we had a thread about.
14 posted on 04/09/2004 5:26:10 PM PDT by txhurl (The Jihadists: spectacular media violence, zero military significance, huge psych significance.)
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To: RightWhale
....If the High Council is worth its salt, they ought to bring these rebels in line. If they can't do it, they ought to work on their presentation.....

That is a bit tricky...

The Council consist mostly of ex exiles who have no clues about Iraq.
They only was good to fool the CIA about the WMD and the flowers with wath the iraqis greating the US soldiers.
Chalabi is wanted for bank fraud in Jordan and never been to Iraq since he was 14.
Now they resigning one by one and on the end of Juni noone will be there to whom hand over the power.
15 posted on 04/09/2004 5:32:22 PM PDT by Attila1212
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To: kezekiel
Alright you primitive screw-heads, listen up. See this? This is my boomstick! -Ash:Army of Darkness


16 posted on 04/09/2004 5:33:07 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: txflake
Ameristan, I like . . . Maybe we could name one of them Texastan in honor of Dubya. :-)
17 posted on 04/09/2004 5:34:06 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: kezekiel
It looks more and more like we're in a sucker's game of three-card monte here, and there's no pea under any of the shells. I'd be curious to see what would happen if we threatened to just pull out completely and let these ingrates start killing each other.
18 posted on 04/09/2004 5:35:59 PM PDT by jpl ("I actually voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it." - John Kerry)
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To: Trust but Verify
If the peace-loving, 'good' muslims ...

...ain't do such thing...

19 posted on 04/09/2004 5:49:58 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (LWS - Legislating While Stupid. Someone should make this illegal.)
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To: Attila1212
The Council consist mostly of ex exiles who have no clues about Iraq.

At times I believe we should people it with American retired American military men. How would you like that?

By the way what is there about Iraq which is it necessary to "have clues" about? What are the complex intricacies of this "Iraq" society that the IGC are missing which prevents them from doing their job as well as they otherwise could? Enlighten me.

What does an IGC person need to know about Iraq that he cannot know by having lived in some other country?

How to plant roadside bombs?

How to go to a mullah's rally and pump your fist chanting slogans?

How to burn things, like cars?

How to hide inside your apartment complaining about how Americans aren't keeping the peace from Islamo-mafia thugs, and simultaneously saying the Americans should leave altogether even though that would mean the Islamo-mafia thugs take over completely, which you won't lift a finger to stop because you're scared of them?

They only was good to fool the CIA about the WMD and the flowers with wath the iraqis greating the US soldiers.

Flowers, eh?

You mean like these flowers?

Chalabi is wanted for bank fraud in Jordan

Wow, Jordan. And it's not like Jordan has a repressive government of its own or anything. With their vaunted constitutional protections and internationally renowned system of jurisprudence I guess Chalabi's a criminal fair and square.

and never been to Iraq since he was 14.

Yes, clearly he should have journeyed to Iraq and let Saddam Hussein's thugs kill him. That's what a real man would have done. THEN he would be fit to serve on IGC.

After all: Exiles are cowardly! You hear that, Florida Cubans? Cowardly! German Jews who emigrated to America in 1930s? Bunch of cowards!

Clearly only someone who remained in Iraq and did not get killed by Saddam Hussein, i.e. by remaining in his good graces, is worthy of having power in post-Hussein Iraq. Offhand I can think of one possible candidate: Saddam Hussein. He stayed! Maybe we should put *him* on the IGC.

Now they resigning one by one and on the end of Juni noone will be there to whom hand over the power.

That will be their loss not ours.

20 posted on 04/09/2004 5:50:34 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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